Sony/Transmeta Video Laptop 82
Polo writes "Sony has a new small-sized transmeta powered PCG-GT1 laptop with a stronger focus on video. The lcd screen
reverses and [swivels] for easier shooting. With so much hardware support required, I wonder if linux drivers will be difficult to implement. Interesting camera/pc convergence stuff (besides that, with hard drive costs coming down so far, its probably a good idea. Definitely looks like fun.
Here's a ZD Net Review where they aren't so hot on a slightly different transmeta vaio. (not the one with the crazy sidemounted video camera)
Re:there they go... (Score:1)
I've also had several (3) Sony VAIO laptops over the last 3 YEARS and guess what? They've ALL had i.Link firewire on them!! Not that I could do anything with it until about a year ago (and I still don't), but Sony had laptops with ACTUAL built-in VIDEOCAMERAS and firewire long before Apple -- which Apple laptops come with a built-in videocamera, anyway??? You're just talking out of your ass and you know it!!
If you have to be a Mac fanatic, don't be such a STUPID one and make the rest of us look so damn bad!!!
About the zdnet review (Score:2)
"A bit small for fortysomething eyes," so says the zdnet review. I would say that it's definitely not designed for you, then. I would also say, "why are you reviewing ultralight laptops?"
I would also say "It's 2.2 pounds. Where do you expect the battery power to come from?" For something that light, with that size of display, and with a hard drive, 5.5 hours is pretty good.
Cryptonomicon (Score:2)
Of course, by the looks of it, there's nothing secret about the camera on THIS thing. Ah well..
Re:Picturebooks are already out for intel (Score:2)
Also, the camera driver is Here [samba.org], although I've never tried it out.
Picturebooks are already out for intel (Score:4)
Re:Another CmdrTaco spelling/grammar flub... (Score:2)
Offtopic my ass! This is a perfectly legitimate question about the article. Read it! It makes no sense whatsoever! Easier shooting what?!? Shooting with a laptop?!? This is very much on topic.
A rough translation from elingo.com (Score:2)
OS: Windows ME
CPU: TM5600 600MHz
Memory Bus: 100MHz
Memory: 128MB (*1)
Hard Drive: About 20GB
Display: 1024x768 TFT liquid crystal
Modem: 56kbps (V.90/K56flex) (*2)
Stamina: 5/10/17 hours (*3)
i.LINK: Four pins
-DV animation edit
-Video mail
-Live dispatch
-10x Optical zoom
-680,000 pixel CCD
-Blurring correction (jitter corection?)
-Auto focus
(*1) 16mb is used with the system.
(*2) V.90 and K56flex are distinguished automatically and switched. 56kbps is a theory value when data is received. When data is transmitted, 33.6kbps on the standard reaches the maximum value. When Fax is transmitted, [it] becomes 14.4kbps or less. An actual transmission rate changes by the situation of the line quality etc.
(*3) Both battery packing (S)/battery packing (L) (optional)/battery packing (LLL) (optional) of the battery use time are standards at the power saving mode. It is likely to differ from the above-mentioned description time according to the use state and setting, etc.Moreover, battery packing (S)/battery packing (L)/battery packing (LLL) cannot be used together.
(*4) The commodity of the open price does not provide the suggested retail price.
(*5) The screen is a synthesis of all (*hamecomi*).
Equipped with Windows Millennium Edition which makes lifestyle of personal computer pleasant
I like the last bit there...
Re:Linux drivers? (Score:1)
I for one am going to install Linux on it the second i get it!
I think its VERY sweet that it has an 8meg 3d video card... drooool... if the modem works in Linux, ill be happy with it! My current Picturebook is definatly worth every penny i spent on it.
Re:Why (Score:1)
im not going to argue this point, i do it for the same reason i would buy WinCE devices and try to get Linux on them too... there ARE Picturebook camera drivers, and if it doesnt work, ill try to write my own...
now where did i put that Linux i-opener?
Re:current picture books (Score:3)
Keyboard is the right size: small as possible while retaining complete functionality. And it dispenses with those stupid trackpads for a joysticklike pointer.
Screen is hella bright, and the odd aspect ratio lets you do two word pages side by side.
So light you barely notice it in a backpack or bag, so small you can stick it in a jacket pocket.
The camera on the original C1 is kind of marginal, but the later models are very detailed.
And the one downside is the 1 hour 20 minute battery life. Retch. That's why we c1 phanaticks are all freaking out at the prospect of a five hour transmeta processor assisted battery life.
Re:it's an overpriced toy. (Score:1)
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Capitalization? (Score:1)
Re:Those links in the story aren't the same model (Score:1)
But on a side note, I'm rather disappointed by the performance of the Crusoe-based Vaio.
I was SO looking forward to scoring one of these with the end of year bonus, but I don't really see any reason right now to go with the Crusoe model over the Intel model (aside from the geek chic factor of having a Crusoe).
-LjM
Re:Talking about two diffrent laptops... (Score:1)
Set the crack pipe down, son
And slowly step away...
You dont need it to live a happy life, you can do it without the crack.
Re:Picturebooks are already out for intel (Score:2)
here's some pics of the guts [megarad.com] for those interested.
--sean
Re:Two Words: (Score:1)
Re:the unexpergated Cryptonimcom (Score:1)
I just started rereading this damn book for about the tenth time,if there is another version, than I want it!
Re:the unexpergated Cryptonimcom (Score:1)
Re:It would be interesting... (Score:1)
WETYUIOP. Why do you ask?
The planet does not revolve around you. (Score:2)
Although I don't have a use for it, there are certainly enough jobs out there would can use a tool like this. A real estate agent, or a consultant, landscape or a news reporter, can take quick shots of places they go to, wihtout the extra bulk of a notebook AND a digital camera. Mind you, when you havea notebook and a digital camera, you're also carrying double the accesories.
Too big for every day use
Actually, it would fit into a shoulder-strapped bag just fine. The screen is 6.4 inches! How much smaller do you want?
too pricy for casual carrying around
I don't think they intended this for high school or college, whichever you're from.
too crappy battery life for extended use
Actually battery life is 5/10/17 hours depending on what kind of battery you're using (according to the page). That seems pretty adequate for a days amount of work. Not sure what you mean by "extended."
too small for real data entry.
Hah. hahahahahaha. hahahahaah. you're kidding right? Don't expect IT departments to switch to the Sony PCG-GT1 any time soon...
Re:Picturebooks are already out for intel (Score:1)
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Michael Sims-michael at slashdot.org
Re:Another CmdrTaco spelling/grammar flub... (Score:1)
But my typing skils are geting stroger.
What happened to "Firewire" (Score:1)
Now we have to suffer through another round of [foo] (IEE-1394) to explain it everytime its mentioned?
I realize that marketing types figure that re-branding every n years will ensure job longevity, but would it hurt you so much to stick to a frickin name for something?
Re:What happened to "Firewire" (Score:1)
This is a picture of it. (Score:2)
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20001016/tc/m
Two Words: (Score:1)
OTOH, I wonder if they ever did anything about that crappy NeoMagic video chip: in my opinion having one of those would be a real downer.
I mean, come on Sony... you were able fit a 1024x768 TFT display in this thing, why can't you fit a chip good enough for 3D graphics in??? Or even MPEG2 hardware decoding?
Nix the rant on 3D/MPEG2 (Score:2)
OK, Sony, the question still stands: when can we see decent laptop graphics over here?
Video Editing (Score:2)
http://www.son y.c o.jp/sd/ProductsPark/Consumer/PCOM/Acc/PCDA-J1A/ [sony.co.jp]
Monitor (Score:2)
This is one of the first real 200dpi monitors that I have seen on a product, and put to a great use. Obviously these screens are only economical to make at 6.4", but Sony seem to be consistently good at putting the latest TFT LCD screens on their devices. It can't be that long before they release a laptop with a 200dpi screen at a decent size like 12.8" (2048x1536).
The battery life quoted is impressive as well - up to 17 hours seems to validate everything that Transmeta have claimed. TFTs are getting lower power, and new technology is coming our like LEP displays and the like which will cut power usage even more. Hard drives are drawing less power as well, and DDR memory is lower power than SDR memory. That leaves the processor and northbridge - both solved by the Transmeta processor. Sony's use of the processor is also a big plus for Transmeta.
But these high resolution monitors are starting to make things like font smoothing a thing of the past. X11 will look smooth and good on one of these screens without having to implement anti-aliased fonts or graphics. This leaves alpha transparency as the one major missing feature.
Potential!!! (Score:2)
Re:oooh. linux on this baby'd be hot (Score:1)
AMD? (Score:1)
Why (Score:1)
Are you mad? Why would you spend the money for this video camera tech. and then install an O/S that doesn't support it. Unless you're going to write your own drivers of course.
Neither fish nor fowl (Score:1)
The picture book is almost what I'd want, but I think that if you could shave a couple of hours more into the battery life, and perhaps lose the keyboard for a touch screen at maybe 600x800 [sic] (instead of 1024x480) and also offer it for sub $1k, then my ears would really perk up. Before then, tho, the picture book is neither fish nor fowl.
Too big for every day use, too pricy for casual carrying around, too crappy battery life for extended use, and too small for real data entry.
I'd like to see what modern tech could do for the newton, which is not far from what I'm babbling about.
Re:Picturebooks are already out for intel (Score:1)
My sharp laptop has this, tho the effect tends to go away after a few minute's use.
barf (Score:2)
Horrible Article (Score:1)
Talking about two diffrent laptops... (Score:1)
Re:What happened to "Firewire" (Score:1)
.technomancer
Re:barf (Score:1)
Translucent plastics would be even better =) (Score:1)
- systmc
Re:Translucent plastics would be even better =) (Score:1)
- systmc
Investigators (Score:1)
This device is very cool. Very specialized electronics for specific uses. Expect to see more of it in the future.
People who would be very interested in this item are investigators and insurance adjusters -- onsite/accident investigators. The applications in their fields of work matches perfectly.
I found a much better picture, and article (Score:4)
Linux Drivers (Score:3)
Re:Very Cool... but... (Score:1)
listen to music
Take pictures
record movies
record sound (a couple hours worth)
type/check email/browse the web
standard PDA stuff
So I need a PDA that can play MP3s and record. I also need a small laptop that can take pictures and video. The picturebook is big enough for casual stuff yet nice and compact to fit in a bag.
Seems like a great thing to have around to me. Does the job of three devices elegantly without taking up much space.
-Erik
Re:Translucent plastics would be even better =) (Score:1)
Ask, and ye shall receive.
/. itself does not show DoubleClick ads (Score:1)
Re:A rough translation from elingo.com (Score:1)
Re:Dvd support... (Score:2)
Re:It would be interesting... (Score:1)
P.S. --What it would look like if we took Q & R out of the alphabet
uee?
oooh. linux on this baby'd be hot (Score:2)
So what's the salivation factor? (I just spit all over my keyboard, oops.)
Re:A cool feature... (Score:1)
Re:A real laptop/camera.... (Score:1)
A real laptop/camera.... (Score:2)
Linux drivers? (Score:1)
Unless, of course the
Refrag
Those links in the story aren't the same model (Score:2)
Benchmarking the Transmeta chips? (Score:3)
I don't usually put a lot of faith in most benchmarks, but a lot of people do. It would be a shame to see Transmeta chips slurred by poor benchmark scores that may not reflect the chips true power.
Another Step in the Stairway to Heaven (Score:2)
It's hardly interesting that
P.S. You know that magazine PCComputing? *SIGH*. I used to subscribe when I was 12, and back then there were only 65 ads per page. I mean, wow.
Anyway, I think this is a Good Thing (tm) for Xmeta and the rest of us. The more competition that we see in the upcoming years the better..we all know this. As far as posting every little battle won by the Small Guys, well, I'm all for it. These little articles are interesting, they shed light on why
TLF
The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all, is the person who argues with him.
Don't you just love benchmarks? (Score:3)
The say "part" of the low score? Winstone would seem to be precisely the sort of benchmarks that optimizers hate. I used to have some peripheral involvement with HotS pot Java VM [sun.com], and nothing upset the development team more than benchmarks that didn't reflect real-world uses of their product. And HotSpot is very similar to TransMeta -- both selectively compile interpreted code into optimized native code. See the Hotspot Benchmarking Q+A [sun.com].
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erm.. (Score:1)
This camera/computer thing is pretty neat. There have been a couple of other attempts in the past at this sort of thing. I have a friend who was looking into buying into this sort of thing a while back, but he said that they were severely limited by the speed and by the size of the hard drives. He didn't mind a high-cost, but for what he needed them for (onsite editing and such) they were an impossibility. This new thing seems to have those problems beat, and with a reversible screen to boot. I really like it, and it doesn't look like the new viao! Definitely a plus in my book.
Re:barf (Score:1)
price (Score:1)
the only thing I can think of that would make this thing better is a built in cdburner or dvdram.
Linux version of this little sucker (Score:2)
http://www.emperorlinux.com/kiwi.html
Have to wonder how popular it will be... (Score:1)
A transmetta laptop as a laptop - oh hell yes, but I'm quite happy with my little Olympus digital camera that fits in my pocket. From a pure vacation standpoint I'm not going to want to lug around that brick (brick by camera standards) of a box just to snap pics or video.
And given that its most likely that audience that would do most of the buying I wonder how successful this will be... especially at $2300 a pop.
Very Cool... but... (Score:3)
Ummm Sony? (Score:2)
"The [music] industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams. It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what." The disturbing part is what Heckler says Sony will attempt to do to help them win: "Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this," Heckler told the Summer Forty-Niner. "We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source -- we will block it at your cable company, we will block it at your phone company, we will block it at your [Internet-service provider]. We will firewall it at your PC"
Reason Number 3 to never buy a Sony Product. A great reason; but Beta and Memory Sticks are #1 & #2. So lets all remember: Fuck Sony.
I see why this is hip with the /. crowd (Score:2)
I rest my case.
How many of these will get broken, I wonder, by some MORON thinking that the camera is some kind of joystick control, "yup, up, down, up down, right *SNAP* oops, uh, gotta go"
whut? (Score:1)
Re:Linux drivers? (Score:1)
Lastly, why does it sem as though people go out of their way to mention Linux in every post? It's almost as bad as the Mac zealots trying to say Apple invented everything.
current picture books (Score:1)
Re:it's an overpriced toy. (Score:1)
And what kind of RAM are you talking about that sells for $400/512MB?
It would be interesting... (Score:2)
Another CmdrTaco spelling/grammar flub... (Score:2)
Reverses and what?
Damn cute little thing, though.
Re:Another CmdrTaco spelling/grammar flub... (Score:3)
I hope they've got a durable connection between the screen and the base, or it could go bad after a few thousand twists. Not to mention if you kept turning it in the same direction all the time.
Re:Another CmdrTaco spelling/grammar flub... (Score:3)
Reverses and what?"
What's wrong with that statment? All of the motherboard manuals that I've seen for the past five years or so are written like that!
A cool feature... (Score:1)
Just a thought. :-)
Wow. (Score:1)
I'm surprised Sony's embracing Transmeta (Score:2)
We as slashdotters should petition the FTC to break them up now before they start leveraging their dominance in the record-label industry and come out with a line of Barbara Streisand batteries and seal our fate for us. They are still small enough to be broken up now. If we squander our opportunity, then we will have to answer to our children and grand children. We shall rue the day if it comes to pass.
Re:Benchmarking the Transmeta chips? (Score:1)
100th Post! (Score:1)
Benchmarks (Score:1)