Sandia Builds Micromechanical 'Device Driver' 159
DanielRavenNest writes: "Sandia Labs has built a tiny bicycle chain type drive out of silicon. This allows one micromechanical motor to drive multiple devices scattered about a chip."
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Re:Completely useless for nano-motorbikes (Score:1)
Well, they did take your statements into consideration:
Vernon fabricated a microchain rather than a microbelt because although silicon belts are tough and flexible, they are spring-like and produce too much torque on gears not aligned in a straight line.
Re:Completely useless for nano-motorbikes (Score:1)
I was looking forward to that episode, being an avid snowmobiler myself. Unfortunately, it was quite clear that those designs were doomed from the start. The build part was still rather interesting though, and the front suspesion on the dirt bike was well done! Better than most snowmobiles had for many years. That was their problem though, they wasted their time on an uneeded feature such as suspension instead of focusing on the important things.
And as for the parent of this thread. Snowmobiles use both belt and chain drives*. Beat that!
* the belt is the transmission, so to speak, and the chain actually drives the track
Re:Completely useless for nano-motorbikes (Score:1)
How are these made? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
3D Printed
or
Etched.
Man... I can't wait to see what happens when they start making microscopic machines. Anybody remember the plastic that has tiny capsules in it that break open when the plastic is broken, releasing a substance that restores some of the strenght? Wouldn't it be cool to use that type of plastic to act as a form of structural support while microscopic machines go in and fix the broken plastic on a real tiny level?
Healing cars!!
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
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Re:How are these made? (Score:4, Funny)
Applications (Score:4, Funny)
or going in circles shouting "Kernel Panic" or something.
Just an image. Tron with bicyles ;-)
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
:)
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Damn the Emperor!
Re:How are these made? (Score:1)
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Re:How are these made? (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Moving parts bad (Score:2, Insightful)
Research isn't always about solving problems. But it's always about coming up with new ideas.
flap, flap, flap (Score:5, Funny)
Re:flap, flap, flap (Score:1)
well, it is only at 2... so far.
Damn (Score:1, Funny)
There are using for nano-motors (Score:2)
But my first thought was "once they have the chain, then they can build the nano-cycle... but where will they find all those itsy-bitsy Clowns? And how many can dance on the head of a pin?"
All right, I probably do need therapy
Re:There are using for nano-motors (Score:2)
Silly, it's not for clowns... it's for the flea circus.
Re:There are using for nano-motors (Score:1)
[mirror] Google's Mirror (Score:2, Informative)
Before you get too excited... (Score:4, Funny)
thad
Problem with microscale locks for nuclear warheads (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Before you get too excited... (Score:1)
Re:Before you get too excited... (Score:2, Funny)
Being made out of silicon, these devices are themselves prone to dangerous silicon explosions [codetroop.com].
Re:Before you get too excited... (Score:1, Funny)
Article on MEMS research (Score:4, Informative)
AND for cut and pasters: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/10/technology/circ
finally (Score:4, Funny)
Re:finally (Score:2, Funny)
Cool stuff (Score:2)
Could they use this to build motors in the top of chips and come up with some sort of package that allows the nano (and hopefully silent) fans to cool a CPU? Just a thought.
Re:Cool stuff (Score:1)
Re:Cool stuff (Score:2)
Reliability? (Score:2, Troll)
Disclaimer. I could be completely wrong on everything here. I am ignorant of circuitry.
Reliability is different for small things (Score:2, Interesting)
These little gadgets are so small that it is possible to make them out of a single, faultless piece of material. Okay, if you had a dislocation or an inclusion in your bike chain, then it would fail pretty quickly, if it worked at all; but if you get a good one, then it will seem almost immortal when compared to macroscopic objects. So, you make a few spares, and throw away the duds.
We are used to seeing silicon and silicon dioxide as crystalline. However, if you take out the small features that allow a crack to propagate through a crystal, then these materials can seem very tough and flexible. Think of glass fibres and glass. The Sandia site used to have a downloadable video of a minature moving mirror getting trodden on by a flea: it bends but does not crumple, and springs back unharmed.
There are other changes as you get to submicron sizes. Surface tension and other chemical effects seem huge. Water drops seem to have a tough skin on them at this scale, and drops will sit on a surface rather than wet it. This is just as well: a water drop could glue the chain together if it could wet. As things are, these gadgets seem to survive in the open atmosphere just fine.
If you think that is weird, the nanoscale stuff is much weirder. Interesting times, or what?
Re:Reliability is different for small things (Score:1)
My question is: do they also work in vacuum ? I ask because mechanical parts in vacuum have always the problem that they stick to each other (esp. metals) because there is no lubricating water film on their surfaces.
Re:Reliability? (Score:2)
In the case of diesel engines with a mechanical injection pump, the torque load on the pump drive is very high and "pulsed" at the top of each compression stroke (tightest just before the injector opens). The chain will also be driving the camshaft (possibly two), maybe an oil pump drive, and occasionally you see the airbrake compressor driven off the chain.
I should point out that the timing chains on big diesel engines like this are really horrible to tension correctly.
History repeats itself... (Score:1)
Great, now we can look forward to the nanobots getting maimed and mangled in miniature industrial accidents. Let's hope the bots don't "organize" too well and go on strike because of this.
Re:History repeats itself... (Score:1)
Re:History repeats itself... (Score:1)
Not a problem. Just don't let your nanobots wear rolled-up cuffs on their blue jeans and they won't get caught in the drive chain.
like what? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:like what? (Score:1)
Who knows?
Re:like what? (Score:3, Interesting)
Tiny little bot with one of those chem detectors. Attach it to a tiny bit of iron. It floats around in a solution and when it finds a molecule of the type you're looking for it grabs ahold. Now you can seperate two things that were presumably not seperable before.
Tiny machine that traces around circuits that have gone defective and actually repairs them through some magic. The little devices follow the paths until they come to a problem they can repair.
My personal goal device actually has nothing to do with chains, but is a microscopic audio recorder that becomes permanently attached to your ear. It records everything you hear giving you perfect memory! Powered by body heat so you don't switch batteries, no bulky tapes, saves the data to disk at the end of the day. Suddenly my bad memory is no longer a handicap!
Possible Use... (Score:5, Interesting)
Connect the Brownian Ratchet to this little chain thingy. Have it wind something up. User presses button, and thingy unwinds. Basically a free recharging system.
Not all that practical, but pretty cool. I'm sure there are better applications... (anyone?)
Re:Possible Use... (Score:2, Informative)
If one could design an ion channel that allowed ions to diffuse in one and only one direction one would have a battery that never needed charging. Of course, if that were possible evolution would probably have done it already. On the other hand, as I understand it, Boltzmann's H-Theorem only applies to dilute gasses so it remains to be proved that such a thing is impossible.
Maybe the reason that humans are smarter than animals is that the neural ion channels in human brains have evolved to overcome the Second Law of Thermodynamics. It would be interesting to know if anyone has ever looked at whether ion channels obey the Second Law.
I say again, "the earth is not a closed system (Score:2)
There is nothing mystical about the physical infrastructure of human intelligence. We derive our energy from the food we eat (in a very ineffecient manner), much of which in turn (at some point) derives its energy from photosynthesis, which in turn derives its energy from the sun, an energy source external to the earth (and one which will, some day, run out).
We are powered by the sun, in other words, not some mystical force violating Thermodynamic's second law. Our intelligence may have other implications, but a mystical violation of the basic laws of physics isn't one of them.
Not just the sun (Score:1)
Re:Possible Use... (Score:1)
There is exactly enough heat (random motion of molecules) that hits the central pivot that knocks it out of it ratchet and back a space that it cancels out the motion. Sorry, no free energy.
-Cruz
Re:Possible Use... (Score:2)
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The second law stops you hot (Score:3, Informative)
The Brownian Ratchet you describe won't work, because of the second law of thermodynamics. The second law is potent enough that even evoking Feynman's name won't make it go away. Besides, what Feynman described was why this won't work.
See Chapter 46 of the Lectures if you want the details, but in short, it would quickly get hot enough that its own shaking (heat=random motion remember?) would drown out the Brownian motion.
-- MarkusQ
The Earth (atmosphere) is not a closed system (Score:2)
Not really. Energy is taken from the motion of the atmosphere. It is free in economic, not physical, terms, and is therefor not a violation of the 2nd law.
In other words, it is not a closed system he is describing, but an open system where energy is introduced (from the molecular motion of the atmosphere, which in turn is powered by the sun).
Furthermore, heating issues can be handled in the way they are handled in any electrical or mechanical system (in this case decoupling the ratchet, using active cooling, or whatever). Besides, chances are something like this is being used to charge a more mundane battery (converting mechanical energy to electical, which involves loss of energy, then converting the stored energy back to electricity, which involves another loss, and so on).
All well within the laws of thermodynamics. Innovative, and "free" in the sense that atmospheric motion, powered by the cost-free energy of the sun, is free. Not at all free in terms of thermodynamics or entropy, as energy is being introduced from outside and then simply stored in some fashion, at a net loss in terms of total energy
Re:The Earth (atmosphere) is not a closed system (Score:2)
Furthermore, heating issues can be handled in the way they are handled in any electrical or mechanical system (in this case decoupling the ratchet, using active cooling, or whatever).
And how to you propose to power this "active cooling" system? If it and your ratchet are both 100% efficient you can break even; otherwise, you'll be operating at a net loss.
Before anyone else (the poster to whom I'm responding seems to understand this point) suggests passive cooling, that won't work either; your device is surrounded on all sides by the heat bath, otherwise you wouldn't be seeing the Brownian motion, remember?
-- MarkusQ
Re:The Earth (atmosphere) is not a closed system (Score:2)
Of course, they won't be 100% effecient (2nd law), so it would be a net loss to use active cooling. However, if your system is overheating, then using some of that stored energy to actively cool the components down to an acceptable level may be a reasonable option. Decoupling the ratchet before it reaches such a state would IMHO probably be preferable, though (ie. stop introducing energy into an overheating system).
Such a system can probably be made to work and yield useful results (energy storage and dispensation as required), but you are correct in saying you do not get something for nothing. What we would be doing is tapping into energy which is currently "wasted" (the motion of our atmosphere as it is heated by the sun and cooled by the planet's shadow) and storing it for later use. As with any storage system, there would be operating limits on how much energy can be stored, what its tolerances for waste heat, etc. would be, and so on.
Re:The second law stops you hot (Score:2)
I agree.
I suppose you think windmills don't work, either.
They only work if the air has net motion relative to the windmill. You can't run one off of still air just because the air is hot.
-- MarkusQ
Re:The second law stops you hot (Score:1)
-=Canar=-
Finally... (Score:1, Funny)
Now all we need... (Score:1, Redundant)
(Sorry. Couldn't resist).
Coming soon (Score:3, Funny)
The Ultra-micro-featherweight class of robot wars! (Or battlebots, or robotica, or whatever)
--T
What we need is movies (Score:1)
Is anyone else reminded of the planiverse? (Score:2)
Hair loss (Score:1)
Can it prevent me to going bald?
Every tech should have a very practical use, you know...
Oval gear? (Score:2)
Re:Oval gear? (Score:1)
Nitpick, nitpick (Score:1)
Now, a teeeny tiny WD-40 can (Score:4, Funny)
new toy of the future (Score:2)
Cool! (Score:2, Informative)
My mom is an engineer at SNL, and I try to go once a year when they have their open house for families. The place is packed with stuff just as cool as this - supercomputers, particle colliders, nanotech, rockets and sattelites, I could go on and on. Really an amazing place - reading about it doesn't compare to seeing it in person. I highly recommend visiting if you get the chance.
Re:Cool! (Score:1)
Re:Cool! (Score:1)
Wonderful (Score:1)
God this stuff sometimes feels, well... unreal heh.
Neat.
Oh damn, (Score:1)
Re:Oh damn, (Score:1)
Really? Do you do upgrades? I need more capacity for ER pulse lasers on my Atlas.
graspee
Re:Oh damn, (Score:1, Offtopic)
Ceiling fans? (Score:2)
We all know what happened to that technology.
This might prove to be a good stepping-stone, but I think the end result will be a motor on everything that moves.
New computer fans! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:New computer fans! (Score:1)
Sewing machines? (Score:2, Funny)
Forget the chains... (Score:3, Funny)
Now that's a microcomputer!
Already done (Score:1)
not another big ball factory (Score:1)
Current Application? (Score:1)
Tom
Chainbreaker (Score:2, Funny)
Oh, that's not so tiny (Score:1)
That whooshing sound (Score:1)
Microcomputer... (Score:1)
That will take us risht into the micro industrial revolution which in turn will lead to the micro computer
Micro Computing (Score:1)
Oil? (Score:1)
--tif
If you look real close... (Score:1)
If you look really, really close... (Score:2, Funny)
Each bearing hand polished by buxom Italian babes.
Does this mean paper tape will make a comeback? (Score:1)
Uh-oh (Score:1)
The nano-industrial age begins (Score:1)
Re:Gears on the chips (Score:1)