Mozilla 1.0 Officially Here

hhg writes "People of the world, rejoice! At last, the long awaited Mozilla 1.0 is released, and has emerged on the ftp.mozilla.org ftp-server. Let the release parties loose!" And there's even an Ann Arbor party now ;) Congratulations to all the developers that contributed to the mighty lizard. And bahtama writes "The latest IE gopher hole patch is out! :) ... Check the release notes and then grab it from here."

mozillazine

[cetan]

http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article2278.ht ml [mozillazine.org] pretty much says it all :)

Congrats to all the hackers on the moz project. Fantastic job and well worth the wait.

Mirror list - Please don't /. the main site!

[Anonymous Coward]

Mirror list is here [mozilla.org]. Please don't slashdot the main FTP site!

Please!! Count to ten and then decide

[_LORAX_]

Cm'on if you have 1.0_rc3 and you are not having problems, please do everyone a favor and DON'T download today...

Unless you are having problems.. try this weekend after the mirrors have had time to catch up!

mirror in sweden

[fredan]

if you wait for a while, I will have the files at ftp.fredan.org/mozilla/ [fredan.org]

New 1.0 Start Page and User FAQ

[David Gerard]

Start page: http://mozilla.org/start/1.0/ [mozilla.org]

FAQ: http://mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/ [mozilla.org]

Don't bother looking at these in IE 5.0, its PNG support is rubbish [libpng.org].

Beonex Communicator 0.8-stable based on Mozilla 1

[benb]

Beonex also just released the Mozilla 1.0-based browser Beonex Communicator 0.8-stable [beonex.com].

While the ultimate goal of the Mozilla project is to produce source code that can be used by other projects and companies, the Open-Source project Beonex tries to make a browser for end-users out of it. (See Beonex vs. Mozilla [beonex.com]). Beonex Communicator stays relatively true to Mozilla. Special emphasis is being put on security and privacy. The software is configured defensively, to avoid security holes to appear in the first place. For example, it sanitizes incoming HTML-email to the largest part.

The current version is available for Windows [beonex.com] und Linux [beonex.com] and bases on the final Mozilla 1.0 source code.

BTW: Congratulations to the whole Mozilla project!

Disclaimer: I am a member of the Beonex project.
I hope, Slashdot will also run this as main news article.

User discussion newsgroups

[Nicopa]

Please, don't use the developer groups for your questions. A good place for user discussion where you can ask for support or discuss and propose features is the new newsgroup:

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla. user.general

(Note that slashdot adds a space inside the link)

It's finally here! Yay!

[netdemonboberb]

After long last, its finally here. Don't think that this is the end of Mozilla. It's only the beginning! Netscape 7.0 is most likely coming off the 1.0 branch, and the trunk has already been getting bugfixes that will go into later Mozilla releases (releases). So, if a fix to a bug you wanted fixed isn't in Mozilla 1.0, its not the end of the world. Stay posted. :-)

Re:Please!! Count to ten and then decide

[anthony_dipierro]

Or use gnutella. The MD5 is 684461f4bef2888271cb05bd3d80af28 for mozilla-win32-1.0-installer.exe.

Re:If this is true...

[Cmdr Taco (luser)]

I just got the release binary from mozilla.org, but it looks like the mirrors aren't ready yet (at least the 2 that I checked).

Perhaps we shouldn't get too frenzied to download until the mirrors are updated.

Bookmarks problems still exist though

[Gambit Thirty-Two]

but still, the problems with sorting bookmarks still exists. I was hoping this would be fixed before release.

Come and get Java and Flash!

[Nicopa]

After downloading Mozilla [mozilla.org] you can install Java and Flash automatically [technisys.com.ar].

Sorry to be the ungrateful user, but...

[Eric Seppanen]

I really, really wish someone would have fixed the obnoxious file-extension mangling bug. It's rapidly soaring toward the top of the most-frequently reported bug list, and was introduced at 1.0rc1 back in April. It's bug 120327 if anyone's interested in reading 183 (mostly repetitive) comments.

This bug is why mozilla insists on adding .exe extensions to anything delivered as application/octet-stream, .txt to text/plain, and likes to fool around with lots of other extensions depending on your exact setup (on my machine it tries to rename every mp3 file to .mpga).

Thank You!

[asa]

I want to personally thank everyone that downloaded Milestone and nightly testing builds and contributed feedback in the form of Bugzilla bug reports, TalkBack crash reports, comments in the newsgroups and at mozillaZine.org. And a special thanks to those people that gave a hours, weeks, months or years of their lives to the care and feeding of our bug database (triage and testcasing bug reports). Without Mozilla's amazing QA and testing community we wouldn't be where we are today.
Oh, and all the developers too ;-)

Re:a serious question

[White Roses]

In a word, yes. I moved a techically illiterate user (seriously, he called to complain his slot-loading CD-ROM was broken - he had crammed two CDs in there at once) from Netscape 4.7 to Mozilla this weekend.

No worries. It's enough alike to keep him happy. In fact, had I not erased his entire hard disk earlier in the day ("Why shouldn't I open attachments again?"), Mozilla probably would have been able to import all of his settings automatically.

Re:Talkback packages only

[thesolo]

Now that they have hit 1.0 are versions without talkback going to be availible.

Most likely not, talkback helps them debug!

Have they or will they remove debug information?

The debug menus have been removed since 1.0RC3

The pacakage is still ~10megs for windows. I was hoping to see some reduction for 1.0 since I still use a lowly 56K Modem.

Simple solution, use the Net Installer! [mozilla.org] It is a 200KB download that lets you choose the options you want, and then download them. If you don't want/need Chatzilla or Mail & News, you can install a smaller package.

As for 10 megs for the full package, that's not big AT ALL! Remember that it comes with Mail & News, an IRC Client, a browser, a WYSIWYG editor, and an address book.

Re:Popup expunger?

[MauricioC]

Errr

Edit
Preferences
Advanced
Scripts & Windows
Uncheck 'Open unrequested windows'

Opera != open source

[DamienMcKenna]

Opera is a closed-source browser, just like Internet Explorer and Nescape Navigator 4.

Re:IE patch?

[Software]

Because this release is the gopher hole patch for IE. That is, Mozilla replaces IE. It took me a second to get it, too.

Re: ftp mirror...

[Aanallein]

Please do not use the above mirror. It's primarily for use by the developers. If it becomes unusable they won't be able to get any work done.

Re:The ONLY thing annoying me...

[thesolo]

P.S. I replaced the splash with one of the splash screens found here:
http://www.lotekk.net/index.php?page=moz&sub=splas h [lotekk.net]

Very professional, and very fitting!

Re:mozillazine

[Gerv]

It's completely new; we put it together in the last few weeks. Kudos to all those in the credits list [mozilla.org] for their hard work.

Gerv

Re:So close, and yet so far...

[Anonymous Coward]

Man, are you still crying about that? We already told you that it isn't a bug and that the change was necessary. This will be the final behavior of the browser.

Where the parties are at

[Mr. Sketch]

The complete list is at http://www.schnitzer.at/mozparty/ [schnitzer.at]

It looks like we'll finally be able to close out Bug #100309 [mozilla.org].

Re:strange choice of releases

[asa]

I notice they're using the May 31st 1.0-branch build as 1.0 . I'm on the 2nd of June 1.0-branch build right now. Maybe they decided to junk several days' work due to mistakes.

Actually, we're already moving forward to Mozilla 1.0.1 :-)

--Asa

WARNING - do not upgrade to Mozilla from Netscape

[Animats]

Mozilla 1.0 went out the door with Bug 137164 [mozilla.org] unfixed.

Near the end of the release notes [mozilla.org], there is the warning

• Do not share a profile between Netscape and Mozilla builds. Doing this can lead to unpredictable results, some of which may include loss of Search settings and preferences and unchecked growth of the Bookmarks file (large enough to freeze your system). It is best to create a new profile for each or manually copy (and change the name) an existing profile.

The bug report itself contains this pathetic comment:

• If you point someone to a door with 'Enter' on it and the handle shocks them when they touch it - maybe they shouldn't do that, but that still makes you a pretty mean bastard.

  that is to say... If Netscape can't use a Mozilla profile(and vice-versa) without causing nasty corruption then it shouldn't be trying. We should offer to import and create a new one without harming the old one - just like we do with other browsers that we like/share users with/ and support but with which we have incompatible profiles. (uhh 4.x)

  Believe me, I'm overjoyed to mark bugs that stem from this behavior as invalid (and I will) but that doesn't strike at the core issue. Lots of users, QA, and developers have spent a ton of time chasing down these demons - no one knew of this incompatibility. Isn't there something to be done?

Re:new king

[Schnapple]

remember IE 1.0?

I may be wrong here, but I don't think there was ever an IE 1.0. Microsoft, like dozens of other companies, bought the right to "brand" a distribution of Mosaic and either they rolled some of their own crap into it and called it "2.0" or they based it on 2.0 of Mosaic.

I don't know or recall if there's any shreds of Mosaic in IE 6.0 (or even if there were any in 3.0, the first IE to be a "contender") but like MS buying QDOS and making it MS-DOS, they did the same with Mosaic.

All I remember is that it used to suck to have to set up Windows NT 4.0 on a system and try to download all the latest service packs, browsers, etc. to discover that the POS IE 2.0 they bundled with it couldn't read ASP pages (insisted on .htm or .html) which is what MS put its updates on microsoft.com in.

Actually since MS bundled IE 2.0 with NT all along and no one complained, then they bundled IE 4.0 with 98 and caught hell about it, if IE 4.0 is so bad, why did people complain? IE 2.0 was bad and no one griped...

Re:Not bad at all.

[tweakt]

I'm sorry but your asking for too much. IE already supports non "IE-Style" layers. It's called CSS1. It's fully implemented on both IE5.5+ and NS6+ (Mozilla, etc)... Same goes for scripting objects. Both support (more or less) the Document Object Model standard.. DOM1. As for Image alignment. The "align" property is deprecated, you should be using style sheets by now. See W3.ORG [w3.org].

Re:Not bad at all.

[guanxi]

Overall looking very good (other then the Netscape 4 interface).


The "Modern" interface is much nicer:

1. Click Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Themes | Modern.

2. Close Moz *and* QuickLaunch (right-click the system tray icon and choose "Exit Mozilla").

When you start Moz again, you'll have the Modern theme.

Re:User discussion newsgroups

[Nicopa]

Make sure you are accessing the secure server secnews.netscape.com.

Re:Please!! Count to ten and then decide

[Spoons]

If you are using windows and you haven't installed cygwin [redhat.com] yet, you are missing out. It has bash, emacs, etc. That makes windows liveable. And yes they have md5sum. :)

Re:Please!! Count to ten and then decide

[Anonymous Coward]

download [fourmilab.ch] plus description [fourmilab.ch]

Mozilla slower then NS4.7 on Solaris

[stefanlasiewski]

I have not downloaded Mozilla 1.0 yet, but I do have RC3 installed on this Ultra5/270Mhz/512Mb .

While this monster is by no means a speed demon, Mozilla is so slow it is unusable. Takes 30 seconds to start up, 1-2 seconds to register a click. The rendering of pages is fine, but everything else is really, really slow.

Netscape4.7, on the other hand, is fine. Not fast, but perfectly usable.

I also use Mozilla all the time on a Win98 & RH7.2 (Dual boot/366Mhz/512Mb), and it's way way FASTER then Netscape4.7.

Why is Mozilla so slow on Solaris?

Re:Talkback packages only

[mbbac]

I did the stub installed on Windows 2000 and everything was required except for Personal Security Manager.

I don't think that's helping reduce bandwidth requirements of the servers much.

Re:Well done

[Bearpaw]

So far so good, on Max OS X. (I'm used to Omniweb these days, occasionally running Netscape or [gag] IE when Omniweb runs into problems.)

Seems pretty fast, though I haven't run tests. Love the tabs, especially the ability to have multiple windows and/or multiple tabs.

First see if you NEED to download Java!

[vanza]

Anyone with a recent JDK/JRE installed already has the plugin for Mozilla/Netscape and does NOT need to install this package!

I don't know why the installer does not do this automatically if it detects Java, but all you have to do is go to the Mozilla plugins directory and make a symbolic link to the plugin. In the case of JDK 1.4, the plugin resides in ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_o ji140.so (for Linux at least).

In Windows, in some directory that looks like that, there are some dll's you can copy to the Mozilla plugins' folder to make the Java plugin work.

Re:Talkback packages only

[edwdig]

Under the directory on the ftp server with the stub, there's an XPI directory which has the packages for the individual components. The install also has an option to save the downloaded files.

Re:The ONLY thing annoying me...

[Scooby Snacks]

I believe the splash screen is disabled by default on *nix. Try starting mozilla from the command line with 'mozilla -splash' to see it. I believe it is enabled by default on Windows; try launching it as 'mozilla -nosplash' to hide it.

One US mirror already has it

[pngwen]

one US mirror has mozilla-1.0 on it site and is currently giving me the maximum download my IDSL line's bandwidth will allow.
&nbsp
The mirror is:
&nbsp
ftp://archive.progeny.com/mozilla/releases/mozilla 1.0/ [progeny.com]
&nbsp
This seems to be the only one that has it at the time of this posting.
&nbsp

Re:Maybe Bill Gates will have an attack of kindnes

[SkankhodBeeblebrox]

Not trolling, but you do realize the Willam F. (?) Gates foundation donates millions and millions of dollars to charities each year... Gates' has a lot of things you can flame him for, not being kind isn't one of them...

UNCOs

[Anonymous Coward]

Mozilla has several (around 3500) unconfirmed bugs, most of them seam to be gone since a long time or dups, but we need some help to get through them - just ask on irc.mozilla.org #kill-unco and read there: http://sucs.org/~sits/mozilla/unco/

Re:Talkback packages only

[thesolo]

I did the stub installed on Windows 2000 and everything was required except for Personal Security Manager.

Did you already have a version of Mozilla installed previously?? If so, you need to uninstall it first, or else everything but PSM will be required. If Moz is not previously installed, you can turn the other options on and off. For example, right now I only have the browser & address book installed.

Super duper secret easter eggs!

[TheCorporal]

Ahh yes, ok so its not so secret, but still its entertaining. Enter about:mozilla in your address bar and you get a cool page with a cool quote from the cool book of Mozilla. Too much coolness? I thought as much =) Enjoy....

"And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble."

from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
(Red Letter Edition)

Re:Reality check

[cetan]

If you followed the project for so long then you would know the answer to your question.

IE was passed by Mozilla in terms of functionality ages ago.

Better Icons (for windows users at least)

[tswinzig]

If you're sick of that curly, blue lizard icon that appears on EVERY window, try installing the icons found here:

http://www.grayrest.com/moz/resources/icons.shtml [grayrest.com]

They're nice looking, and more importantly, I can now differentiate between the browser windows and the mail windows...

Supposedly these and other icons are available from the following page, but it's really slow right now for me...

http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/icons.html [mozdev.org]

RedHat RPMs still without TrueType fonts

[Anonymous Coward]

The official Mozilla RPMs for RedHat 7.2 are still built without TrueType font support. If you care for decent fonts on your screen, here is a build with freetype2 enabled:
http://nil.ics.uci.edu/~gal/download/mozilla-1.0.0 -freetype2 [uci.edu]

Re:WARNING - do not upgrade to Mozilla from Netsca

[psaltes]

Actually, what it really means (though this is not explicit in the release notes) is that you can't share a profile between mozilla 1.0 and existing versions of netscape. I read elsewhere (maybe in the FAQ?) that this will be doable in future netscape builds (i.e. ones based on moz1.0). Also, from the bug report, which you rather unfairly neglected to quote:

The 1.0 relnote for this bug is good but not enough. The solution should be that
Netscape creates its own registry.dat and doesn't touch Mozilla's. That should
be done for the next major Netscape release, or there will be a lot of users
with profile corruption caused by sharing profiles between Netscape and Mozilla.
That could lead to user frustration.

It sounds like it is actually a problem with current netscape builds.

Re:The ONLY thing annoying me...

[tomer]

If you'll search the web for "mozilla.bmp", you'll get some other sites for splash screens.

Here are some:
first - the Bugzila page. Full of links and attachments: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32218
http://latinmoz.f2g.net/mozillation/
http://www.vorstrasse91.com/moztips/tricks.html (those are quite nice...)
http://www.geocities.com/mozamp/mozsplas h.html

Enjoy.

0000B4B5E831

Re:Please!! Count to ten and then decide

[KMitchell]

You could also hit:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozi ll a1.0/MD5SUMS

which is a small enough page that it can probably survive the slashdotting.

The posted MD5 does check out BTW :)

Re:User discussion newsgroups

[David Gerard]

The user newsgroups are listed (with clickable links) in the FAQ [mozilla.org].

Note that you MUST be using SSL news (snews://) on port 563. Use Mozilla, Netscape 6/7, Outlook Express or slrn (those are the newsreaders I know of that do SSL news).

(No, I don't know why.)

Re:WARNING - do not upgrade to Mozilla from Netsca

[David Gerard]

FAQ section 7 [mozilla.org] tells you how to work around this.

NOTE: you can't start the profile manager unless Mozilla is fully shut down.

Re:Does it include

[Anonymous Coward]

Nope. It's all included cross-platform.

Re:Mozilla slower then NS4.7 on Solaris

[David Gerard]

"They don't call it "Slowaris" for nothing."

"The problem, here, is not the OS, it is the Ultra 5. Ultra 5s were marketed as low-end workstations when they were first sold, which makes them very-low-end today. Ultra 5s were intended as basic administrator workstations with absolutely no frills. As a counter example, I have a 440MHz UltraSPARC IIi-based workstation with UltraSCSI disk drives, 512MB of RAM, and Solaris 8, and Mozilla/Netscape works beautifully. What I have that the Ultra 5 doesn't is bandwidth."

To make a fast Sun build, use the Sun Forte compiler instead of gcc - being tweaked for the OS and architecture, it does a lot better.

Re:it doesn't have to beat IE to win

[asa]

Bank of America is my bank and it works just fine in Mozilla and Netscape 7 PR1.

--Asa

Re:Mozilla Mail

[asa]

I run mozilla mail with about 15 folders, only 2 or 3 of which ever have fewer than about 10,000 mails each. I get between 300 and 1000 messages a day and they get filtered to my different folders. Mozilla mail has no problems with my volume.

--Asa

Re:after such a long process

[dossen]

~/mozilla# ./configure --help

Usage: configure [options] [host]
Options: [defaults in brackets after descriptions]
Configuration:
...
--enable-calendar Enable building of the calendar client
...


This is from the 1.0 source-tree. So if you want it, calendar is in 1.0 (Note: I haven't tested it, and you need to install a special libical, but it's there).

Re:So close, and yet so far...

[Tet]

You are supposed to use the remote system to open a new window when mozilla exists.

Yes, but that only works on the same X display. If you have one Mozilla open on, say :0.0, there's no way to open a new browser window on :0.1, which I need to do for my monitoring...