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New Mobile Phones Showcased 143

An anonymous reader writes: "This is a report at VR-Zone showing many new and upcoming models of mobile phones with features like color LCDs, GPRS and digital cameras built-in from major Telco companies like NTT DoCoMo, Panasonic, Kyocera, Samsung and Sony Ericsson. 3D Graphics animation software design houses for example discreet, NewTek and Alias|Wavefront and video editing card manufacturers like Pinnacle and Canopus have their booths there too." There are too many links to list here separately, but I especially liked the pictures of products from NTT DoCoMo and Sony Ericsson.
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New Mobile Phones Showcased

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  • WOW! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Kenja ( 541830 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:21PM (#3723414)
    Jebus tap dancing christ, NEW FREAKIN PHONES.

    At last my life has meaning again. No I can get a phone that plays MP3s, video clips and warns me if my fly is down.

    Sorry, I just drank five too many Jolts.

  • now we're going to have to worry about people looking at porn while driving.

    Only hands-free porn viewing allowed in Santa Fe.
    • People are legally prohibited to speak over mobiles (without hnds-free) while driving. But who will stop the from reading SMS, browsing WAP and what else? As usual, the technologicall progress is a good deal faster than that in the regulations.
      • point being?
      • People are legally prohibited to speak over mobiles (without hnds-free) while driving.

        Not where I live (Alberta) they aren't. Our idiot MLA's voted that it was ok to when a bill was tabled to make it illegal.

    • by Vermy ( 456774 )
      Well, in this situation, I get the feeling the best you are going to get is 1 hand free...
  • Since it has so many features these phone are obvously tailored to lazy people. So I'm just wondering will they give me a shock to try and resuscitate my heart incase I have a heart attack?
    • does one have to be lazy to want to have all the features of their portable devices combined into one? or maybe people are just looking for efficency....
  • "...from major Telco companies like NTT DoCoMo, Panasonic, Kyocera, Samsung and Sony Ericsson." what about smaller telco companies, like midwest wireless?
    • "...from major Telco companies like NTT DoCoMo, Panasonic, Kyocera, Samsung and Sony Ericsson." what about smaller telco companies, like midwest wireless?

      Since when were Panasonic, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, etc telcos? These are the companies that make the handsets. They are not the companies that run the networks the phones are programmed to use. That'd be Verizon, Sprint, Cingular, etc. In short, Midwest Wireless doesn't fit in here, because they provide service and resell these phones. They don't make the phones. The AC that submitted the story is an idiot.

      • So actually making hardware and software essential to telecom doesn't make them telecom companies?

        So the companies that make TV programs aren't in the TV buisness, neither is the companies that make the actual tv sets? Only the cable company is?

        • The word "Telco" is generally meant to be a shortening of the phrase "Telephone company", and traditionally refers to the companies that provide the service for telephones. The companies that make the phones would most precisely be called "Telephone manufacturing companies". While I can see your case for calling them "Telcos" as well, that's not the common use for the term.

          • My mistake, I thought telco was just a shorter form of the (already shortned) word telecom, for telecommunications

            And Thanks for not beeing an ass about it, but correcting me politely

  • but I just don't feel justified in buying one. It's not that I don't need it--my wife's locked herself out of the car more times than I count, sometimes leaving a baby inside. Also, I'm on the road a lot attending conferences and whatnot and I like to keep in touch. The trouble is, none of the cellphones on the market provide source-code for the binaries that run on the phones. While I may feel a modicum of temporary relief over the safety of my family, I know that in the larger picture I'd just harming them trading away their freedom.
    • This is such a good flame.

      Teach me to flame liek you flame :P
    • I dont agree with you on the freedom thing. By having a cell phone I feel free to go anywhere I want to without having to worry about someone trying to call me and me not being there. Have you ever stayed by the phone waiting for that interviewer to call you back, etc ?

      In my experience cellphones can only aid and have never crippled my life in any way, well, short term at least, who knows if it will cause some new type of cancer or not...
  • There is nothing like drivin down the road while talking on your phone while being able to take digital pictures....
  • For once I have heard a tech story on the radio (driving to the train station this morning) several hours before it reached slashdot. Wow.
  • Imagine how much they'll charge for it if they provide a video feed, too!

    This is going to give good old-fashioned Internet porn a run for its money. ;)

  • by Clue4All ( 580842 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:25PM (#3723447) Homepage
    Not surprising, all of the new phones have a mouthpiece, a speaker, and numbers inbetween with which to dial. I feel that the phone industry needs to be revolutionized, and I think that a phone inserted in the rectum would do just that.
    • Keep your cellphone on its highest ring volume while I'm trying to relax and enjoy a cappucino at the cafe, and you'll get your wish.

      I want a small, subtle flip phone that looks elegant and classy, has good reception, and doesn't cost $700. Why can't that happen? Le sigh.

      --Dan
  • *ring* *ring* "Um, Hello?" "Hi son, how are you?" "Um, Hi Mom!" "Son, what are you doing?" "um, nothing, just (alt-F4 alt-F4 alt-F4)looking at the 'internet', don't worry it wasn't pr0n" Oh that would be hard to explain...
  • Same old stuff (Score:4, Insightful)

    by byee ( 221083 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:28PM (#3723468)
    Seems like it's the same phones from the last time slashdot had a new phone article.


    Huge freakin' phones that do way more than I want a phone to do. Video/pictures/color...etc.


    Give me a phone that calls someone with great sound/voice quality, and can fit in my pocket without me knowing it's there. That's all I want.

  • It makes julien fries in 3.2 seconds! It can make coffee, take out the trash, watch your kids, and surf the internet. It has approximately 3,256,982 ring tones, can sing 5 songs at once, vibrate, flash, and jump up and down when someone calls. It has SMS, PMS, EMS, EPT, DMCA, and ET! You can connect via cellular modem, wireless internet, bluetooth, sabertooth, and root canal! All this and more for only $500!

    But I phone that lets you talk to someone.
  • I've been looking forward to seeing some of the Japanese style phones in the US. I'm really sick of the large and plain looking phones, perhaps American companies will take a hint.
    • Try European stuff! Nokia 9210 is HUGE and plain (although features an electronic notebook). Nokia 8990 is really small and pretty good in it's metal case. And Nokia 8310 looks realy stylish.
      • by rector ( 580924 )
        Nokia 9210i [nokia.com] Nokia 8890 [nokia.com] Nokia 8310 [nokia.com]
      • I have an 8860 (gave it to my GF b/c I hate AT&T) and an 8890 and the 8890 is AWESOME. it has a problem where the back cover will become loose over time, and then that will allow the LCD to become detached within the case - but if you go to http://www.awswireless.com/ they have the parts for most all phones for very nice prices - I just replaced the back as well for getting tools to fix it. ugly site, but good content.
    • Re:Finally! (Score:1, Offtopic)

      Wow, a neopagan wiccan japanophile womyn. I suppose you're a LUG as well? Do me a favor and hurry up implementing your humanity-genocide virus...I have a big loan payment due soon.
    • All the Samsung, Sony/Ericsson etc. phones I've seen are butt ugly! Even the new Motorola phones beat these things in design! Feature-wise the asians seem to have an edge, though. Nokia, Benefon, Siemens at least make a phone that isn't a boring over-sized square.
  • Generic Phone Role Playing System?
  • safety reports on these things? [lostbrain.com] Pagers are safer!

    Yes, it's a joke.
    tcd004
  • I click on the link for Sony Ericsson, I get the page for DoCoMo. I click on the link for DoCoMo, I get something on overclocking. IF'N THAT AIN'T WACKY.
  • featuritis (Score:2, Funny)

    by tps12 ( 105590 )
    I don't know, I think most of these fancy new phones are ridiculous. Do you really need a PDA in your phone? No. Text messaging? Nope. The *only* thing a good cellular phone needs to do is transmit voice and color video. Anything else is just fluff.
    • Many people I know send more than 100 SMS a month. Do you want a phone book in you phone? Instead of a paper one in your pocket? It is a PDA feature. But video in some cases can appear redundant. Imagine a man with a misress when the wife is calling.
    • I want a PDA and a camera in my phone, rather than have to lug around 3 pieces (or more) in my pocket. For my next phone, here are the features I want:

      * _small_
      * calendar with alarms, synchs with my desktop
      * camera that takes at least 640x480
      * good contacts section, inc notes with each contact
      * voice memo
      * on-set answerphone ala Sony Z5 [1]

      Phillip.

      [1] This is something you don't appreciate until you go abroad, where retrieving voicemail is £2.50/min with T-Mobile but £0.20/min paying to receive the call that gets recorded instead.
  • many new and upcoming models of mobile phones with features like color LCDs, GPRS and digital cameras built-in from major Telco companies like NTT DoCoMo, Panasonic, Kyocera, Samsung and Sony Ericsson.

    Hey guys, how bout we get the 3g network deployed a little more before bombarding us with useless reasons to buy a new cell phone? You'll get more business out of me with a nice 3g network than you will with color LCD's.
  • Why is this cool? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Xunker ( 6905 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:37PM (#3723521) Homepage Journal
    So yeah, they're new phones with a speaker on one end and a microphone on the other and some buttons between -- what's the BFD?

    Well, as a wireless developer, I'll tell you:

    2.5/3G -- almost all of the phone designes showcased support some sort of high speed wireless connection (high speed as a releative term to what came before). I-mode, M-Mode, GPRS, whatever, it all translates into "get data to the the phone faster than before".

    Displays -- lot of them also offer colour displays, and those that don't are at least super-size STN screens. While you're right in assuming that colour screens are overkill, having a screen that can display at least 8+ lines is always good.

    bluetooth -- even though bluetooth is a bit of a "lame duck", it's still more convenient then directional IR or tethering the phone to the laptop with a cable.

    GPS -- while the "big brother" factor is pretty big here, as well as location-dependent SMS advertising, it's also useful for your average user -- like, say, telling your phone to use BLuetooth to sync only when you're a certain computer at XY coords, or a yellow-pages/direction system that can tell "you are here".

    Polyphonic Sound -- I lied, this is not one of the reasons they're cool. This is one of the reasons why I will get pissed at people who have a CD quality Britney Spears sample as their ring tone while in a theatre while I'm trying to watch Matrix 2 and Matrix 0.
    • Don't forget these very important advancements:

      MMS: Multimedia Messaging System [mobilemms.com] -- this allows you to send email with audio/amr [ietf.org] attachments, so you can play them with open source code [3gpp.org] from public 3GPP technical standards [3gpp.org] TS 26.071, TS 26.073, TS 26.101 and TS 26.074.

      AMR is a truly great vocodec technology, which stands for "Adaptive Multi Rate." Accordingly, it takes less bandwidth and battery time because when the microphone isn't picking up sound (from, e.g., your speech) your phone isn't sending as much information. Just the way it ought to be. Why spend 4 kbps to send comfort noise when 20 bps can do just as well? Execellent code!

    • GPS -- while the "big brother" factor is pretty big here, as well as location-dependent SMS advertising, it's also useful for your average user -- like, say, telling your phone to use BLuetooth to sync only when you're a certain computer at XY coords, or a yellow-pages/direction system that can tell "you are here".

      I just rented a mobile phone while in the UK, and it knew where I was plenty well enough to tell me local weather and where to find the closest ATM. Towers aren't that far apart.....you don't need the phone to report your position down to a resolution of a few inches to get that kind of information.

      Anything else is just too big brother for me.
  • Oh... (Score:3, Funny)

    by juliao ( 219156 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:39PM (#3723530) Homepage
    When I saw "products by Docomo and Sony" I couldn't help it... My thoughts just went "booth babes"... I clicked the links so fast I didn't even think about what I was doing...

    The site was a bit on the slashdotted side... but i insisted. And guess what. The guys actually took pictures of the phones! of the silly phones! Now who on earth goes all the way to Asia to get pictures of phones? Boy, I sure liked E3 better than this fair...

    </kidding>

  • Are they hosting their site on one of these new phones????
  • Looking at all the cool phones that are available in Asia and Europe make an American like me feel saddened. Sure, that cool new phone that can take digital photos and download Java apps looks mighty fine: too bad it will be another two years before they even make it to my home state. By the time these phones are available locally, Asians and Europeans will have earbud cellphones with three-dimensional holographic heads-up displays. Meanwhile, I will be stuck with my plastic brick. Won't someone think of the American children!
  • jeez, are they running the web server on one of the new nokias?
  • by Neck_of_the_Woods ( 305788 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:51PM (#3723599) Journal
    Web, e-mail, voice, wap, lan, dvd, wetbar, cd...please enough already.

    Give me a wireless phone that will fit on my ear with a small 1/2 sized boom mic. that will allow me to plug it into my pda/computer to upload phone lists and you have a big time sale. "Dial, 555-5555 connect" would be wonderful for voice dialing. Something that will be light enough to leave on while I sit at my computer, drive, pull hotswap drives, would be wonderful. I have seen these for short distances that you plug into your phone on your desk. Why not go ahead and shrink the portable phone down enough that you wear it like your would a hat, or a watch. It seems the most logical step.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I guess that all those idiots driving around with a phone glued to their ear are not obnoxious enough. We are now have to put up with more idiots looking into ridiculous, teeny-weeny screens instead of watching the way they go.

  • by YrWrstNtmr ( 564987 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @01:55PM (#3723626)
    As a bike commuter and road user, i hate these things. Anything that takes away a drivers concentration from what he is supposed to be doing (piloting a vehicle with more kinetic energy than a bullet) is generally not a GoodThing(tm).

    Adding more features simply adds to the problem.

    And for all you too cool users that say "Oh, *I* can drive just as good with my SuperZoomie hands free thing"...try it with a driving simulator sometime. Crank up a NASCAR game, and try to have a meaningful phone conversation while winning the race. Which happens first? Either you give up the phone conversation, or you crash.

    Problem is, on the road, there is no reset. You merely die.
    • I understnd your point, but NASCAR? C'mon, how many people drive to work at 180MPH and only make left hand turns?
      • whatever..:) Use ANY driving simulator. For that matter, any game with a constantly changing GUI. FPS, flight sim, racing sim, GTA3...

        See how fast you die while talking on the phone vs not talking.
        • by Peyna ( 14792 )
          Yeah, I hate getting phone calls in the middle of a good match of Counter-Strike, holding the phone under your ear while using both hands to play a game is not easy.
    • The real problem is much more than most people can't
      drive at all well. And trying to talk on the phone
      makes things go from bad to worse.

      I drive just fine tho, I find that I lose track of
      the phone conversation if anything, not have trouble driving.
    • I can understand why bikers and other drivers would hate having the person on the wheel playing with such phones on the highway or someplace with a high concentration of people. The reality is that in Japan most of the people do not own cars AFAIK and they take the subways and trains on a daily basis. In a situation like the video screens, the high speed internet access, i-mode, games, etc. are a way to relieve the boredom. In a country like the United States, the cars and gas are way cheaper than Japan's so a larger populance owns a vehicle. Many Americans have no use for such phones. Being able to see the person you're talking to on the screen of your cell? Who needs it!
      • Although Japan has a very good mass transit system, many families -- particularly away from major cities -- still own cars. The reality is that cars in Japan have a lot more electronics than in the U.S. For example, in-car navigation systems are very common in Japan but are still rare in America.

        Sometimes, I get the feeling that Japanese people are getting out of hand with all the car-based electronics. My brother's Japanese Game Boy Advance actually has an illustration to explain "Do not use while driving or walking."
    • From what I've seen in Japan, they're not being marketed to the business man sitting in traffic, nor the mom in the minivan rushing to do chores.

      All these cool features are aimed right at the young, hip, high school and college aged kids. I have a dozen female high school aged cousins, and they all had the latest and greatest phone that had every feature you could imagine.

      The parents, on the other hand, being much more conservative, had the standard plain vanilla phones... which means they had eight times more features than my US Sprint phone and weighted 50% less.

      The greatest feature I've seen with their phones is the lightweight battery chargers- size of a matchbox. The one thing I really hate when I travel is having to carry around 20 pounds of bricks to charge all my appliances. Oh, and the LCD clock, the screen turned into a nice, analog clock when the phone was on standby. That was nice touch.

      • All these cool features are aimed right at the young, hip, high school and college aged kids. I have a dozen female high school aged cousins, and they all had the latest and greatest phone that had every feature you could imagine.

        You think HS and college kids don't drive? Those are the little puppies with the phone glued in their ear while driving.
    • Problem is, on the road, there is no reset. You merely die.

      No, actually, you -- the bicyclist and/or pedestrian -- usually die. The driver of the car walks away with scratches and a bruised ego. :-(
    • Uhhh... if you're driving like you do in a NASCAR sim, then tell me which city you're in. I'll make sure to AVOID that like a cow in lingerie.

      Seriously, how is having a conversation on a phone different from having one with the passenger beside you? Once you have hands-free handsets, you should be able to use the phone. I do it all the time.
      • You miss the point. It's not the NASCAR thing, but the division of concentration aspect.

        Delete NASCAR, and substitute any task intensive game while talking on the phone. It is different from a passenger in the car with you, because your focus is outside the vehicle. A passenger with you is awre of the situation from moment to moment, and can act accordingly. On the phone, it may be your boss asking "Where the f$ck is the spreadsheet for the Finster account?" And you're supposed to help him find it while driving.

        Just try it sometime. see which way you have a better score, with or without the phone call.
  • by dipfan ( 192591 ) on Tuesday June 18, 2002 @02:08PM (#3723699) Homepage
    I've had the Sony Ericsson T68i (pictured in there somewhere) for a couple of weeks, and it's a great little number. Apart from being very small and light, and having infrared and Bluetooth, it's got a tiny clip-on digital camera, which takes relatively good quality pix - you can then email them from the phone or send them as a MMS message in about 5 seconds. Older phones that can't take the JPG get a message directing them to a website, with logon and password, to view the photo. It's fun for a while, and surprisingly useful (while furniture shopping last week I could mail my wife a photo of the proposed purchase for approval).

    Speaking of which, took delivery of a new convergence device, the XDA, about to come on the market in the UK (and Germany to follow), from British phone company O2. Looks great ( see it here [o2.co.uk]) and works very smoothly, a GPRS phone combined with a Pocket PC... that's the downside, Microsoft. Otherwise it does all the things you'd want something like this to do: always on email, web surfing, MP3 player, phone, the whole caboodle.
    • I'm pretty happy with my new T68i too. Decided to get rid of my old Nokia 9110 Communicator for 2 reasons:

      (1) The phone cuts out for no apparent reason and periodically reboots itself. 2 mates who had the same model of phone had the exact same problem, ergo it's a design fault.

      (2) With all the bugs in the 9110, I wasn't going to pay almost GB£400 on a 9210 when the 9210 isn't even Triband. So for £130 (after a £50 trade-in for my old phone) I went for the T68i and haven't had a single problem since. Sure I miss the alphanumeric keyboard, but if you really can't do without one, you can always buy a chatboard that plugs into the bottom of the phone.
      • Which reminds me: whoever developed the T9 "text recognition" input for the T68i, well I don't think English was their first language somehow. It's a pain in the ass and I switched it off as soon as I could.
      • (1) The phone cuts out for no apparent reason and
        periodically reboots itself. 2 mates who had the
        same model of phone had the exact same problem,
        ergo it's a design fault.

        Quite astounding, except for the fact that my FonyEricsson 68 does the exact same things -- and is painfully slooow to use with the small buttons and unmatched menu latency.

        Better yet: sometimes the t68 seemingly comes up with a fit of the blue screens (screen shuts down, phone doesn't respond to any buttons including ON/OFF) and is only revivable by way of removing the battery.

        Seen Nokias (5 yrs in use), seen Ericssons (1yr). Now what? Motorola? Samsung? Please.
  • im still waiting for the new ones they showed three years ago.
  • Check out 6 Cellphones You Can't Have (Yet) [popsci.com]

    New toys - hey, isn't there a /. category for that?


  • I have two phones, and between them they are everything I need. When I'm working, I carry a Nokia 9210 [nokia.com], and when I'm out chilling with friends or clubbing, I carry a Sony Ericsson T66 [sonyericsson.com].

    The 9210 is a real powerhouse of a phone, with a word processor, spreadsheet, internet access, excellent messaging facilities, massive contact database, etc - but it's a bit much to carry around. The T66 is tiny, and yet fully functional as a phone - it weighs in at around 60g (2oz).

    I have all but given up on finding the perfect phone for all occasions, I listed what I thought might be my perfect PDA [slashdot.org] on slashdot a while back, but I can't see it happening any time soon. The only solution to me is to vary my device depending on the circumstances - each device does what it's designed for very well indeed, but one device trying to do everything invariably fails completely.

    -- Pete.

  • Give me a phone that will:

    - work anywhere on earth
    - good sound
    - have at least 8 hours active battery life (and more standby)
    - is small, light and durable
    - and cost 20$ a month unlimited connection.

    If you give me that I'll drop my regular phone line and you have me as a customer for the rest of my life...

    If I want to see moving pictures in color I'll turn my TV on... you wanna bet that those features are there to bombard you with shiny colorful advertisement!!!
    • What the FUCK are you fucking smoking? for $20/mo, I probably couldnt get all the standard services I get on my cell phone on my home phone line.

      $15 Line Charge
      $1 Touch Tone (I believe)
      $4 taxes
      $5/mo Caller ID
      $3/mo call waiting
      etc, etc. If you want free long distance, it's gonna be $20 more on top of that, and then only to ATT customers.

      For $35/mo, I get 450 anytime, 1000n/w (start at 8PM), call waiting, 3 way calling, caller ID, free LD to the US from my home calling area. You're not going to get unlimited, even from a land line for $20.
  • Sorry I've missed the discussion, but I have to point out something.

    Most posts are along the lines of criticising "useless" features, however most slashdotters are American and therefore this does not surprise me.

    In other areas of the world, a mobile phone is much more than a simple communications tool. In places like Europe, Asia and Australia, EVERYONE has one as mobile phones are deeply embedded now in the cultures of these countries. In the US however, many of these new features will never work, because the US networks are far behind the rest of the world.

    I'm not trying to flame, I just am trying to explain that the situation is different in other countries, and therefore although some of you might think video/text messaging/mobile internet is a waste of time others really do appreciate these innovations.

    I agree there are a few useless features I find on mobile phones, though, although they may be useful to someone else.
    • Whoah back up there sparky.

      Here in San Francisco I can go grab nearly any phone on the planet, bring it here and use nearly every single feature available (exceptions being some older single-band GSM and all two 3G phones) using Cingular or AT&T. That includes WAP, GPRS, SMS (though I'm unsure about MMS), GSM, silly ringtones, even sillier games, and even i-mode (called m-mode.)

      Not only that but Sprint and Verizon are both rolling out 3G 1x this year (Sprint's rollout is nearly complete, though phones for 3G are scarce.)

      Cell phone penetration nation-wide is around 53% which is far shy of Europe's 74%, but out here in California the picture looks a whole lot more like Europe.

      There are many reasons why people don't go buying cell phones every 6 months here, but features not working isn't one of them. A cheap wired phone system (compared to Europe), phones that are a little more substantial than Japanese counterparts (DoCoMo phones cost, look and feel like plastic toys and one doesn't feel bad about tossing one), an immense computer/laptop penetration rate (compared to Japan for instance) and just plain culture differences are probably the biggest reasons.

      The idea of tossing out two hundred dollar (or in the case of Nokia 8910, near thousand dollar) devices every six months just seems wrong.
  • Nearly half of all mobile phone users are unlikely to use their handsets for anything other than basic voice calls, according to detailed research into consumer demands.

    Read the whole article on ft.com [tm0.com]

  • All this fancy stuff can best be done with a PDA.

    Honestly, do you *need* a color-screen on your phone? It's harder to read, and drinks more battery juice.

    Do you need an MP3 player in there? A radio? A camera? I know I don't. For the simple reason that I already have these things, and they work much better than an all-in-one solution.

    Me, I want three things:

    * Small size
    * Long battery life
    * Good voice quality

    Got all that in a tiny Nokia - I use it via a headset (voice dialling), never notice it's in my pocket, and it has an uptime of about two weeks before I have to recharge it.

    Good enough. I don't like bloat in my code, and don't like it in my phone, either.

    Ciao,
    Klaus

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