Social Robot? 192
smashr writes "Researchers are currently putting the finishing touches on robots that will be attending the AAAI (American Association for Artificial Intelligence) conference this year as part of the AAAI robot challenge. In addition to robots wearing tuxedos and serving drinks, several robots designed to actually register themselves will be participating in the conference. One such robot is GRACE, being built by Carnegie Mellon University and the Naval Research Lab (among others). GRACE features a digital face and speech recognition to interact with people attending the conference. (She even runs Linux!) Her goal is to register for the conference, give a speech and answer questions. Stories at: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, CNN.com, and USA Today."
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Ro-bot (Score:5, Funny)
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I mean she runs Linux. Can't you just imagine her telling everybody that she told you a thousand times that you shouldn't use Windows and that the RIAA is evil ?
it's too perfect! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:it's too perfect! (Score:2)
but really, who are 'they' going to prosecute?
Robots?! (Score:1)
Re:Robots?! (Score:2)
One question. (Score:2, Funny)
I can't resist... (Score:1)
1337@h4x0r>$finger GRACE
I don't think so... (Score:2, Funny)
everyone I know that runs linux is male (unfortunately).
Re:I don't think so... (Score:1)
~S
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I misread the header as (Score:1)
(American Automobile Association)...
If robots will really do that - they'll be really social robots!
Re:I misread the header as (Score:2, Funny)
Robots that will attend the AAA [aaa.com] (American Automobile Association)... If robots will really do that - they'll be really social robots!
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Of course, you'll know the robots have gotten too social when they start attending AA.
hmmm... (Score:2)
Oh Great.... (Score:1)
Sorry, I have to say it.... (Score:2, Funny)
Given the audience, I wonder how many questions will be answered with, "No, I won't meet you in your hotel room."
Re:Sorry, I have to say it.... (Score:2, Insightful)
A paradox (Score:4, Funny)
These people are the most qualified and least qualified at the same time!
Re:A paradox (Score:2)
Re:A paradox (Score:4, Funny)
Read article? (Score:2)
That is interesting in itself. I guess these geeks see their weaknesses quite well?
This is perfect (Score:1)
Re:This is perfect (Score:1)
Social Robot? (Score:1)
When I saw the article title all I could think of was Bill Gates sipping soda at a cocktail party...
It's not _real_ technology... (Score:3, Insightful)
(Did you ever notice that no one wnats to admit this. They always try for the educational uses for a while first)
AI (Score:4, Insightful)
In other words, when it comes to "AI", these things tend to be really heavy on the "A" and really light on the "I".
Course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I would disagree.... (Score:4, Insightful)
do they really tell us more about how the brain works? I don't think so - they mostly push the envelope in the field of pattern recognition and imitation.
So pattern recognition and imitation are not considered a part of intelligence now?
Wow. I better call my friends at every elementary school on the planet and tell them to radically change their teaching style.
Re:AI (Score:3, Interesting)
There are exceptions; people are trying to make magical leaps over some percieved barrier, usually self-awareness. The cyc [cyc.com] project works along those lines.
By and large, though, AI research occurs in little steps, and most of those steps are like this one. There is a need for a good understanding of what works and what doesn't work for smaller tasks before we're going to solve the bigger problems. What you seem to call "Cognitive Imitation" I would often call "Trying to understand cognition".
In other words, when it comes to "AI", these things tend to be really heavy on the "A" and really light on the "I".
I'd like to hear of an approach that you think is light on the "A" and heavy on the "I".
Re:AI (Score:2)
Adding variable amounts human genes to other mammal's chromosomes.
(Although, I will admit that it's not all that light on the "A", and the "I" of the experimenter would be decidedly questionable.)
Re:AI (Score:2)
There are exceptions; people are trying to make magical leaps over some percieved barrier, usually self-awareness. The cyc [cyc.com] project works along those lines.
I also disagree with grandparent, but for other reasons. Cyc is an interesting expert system, but it hasn't made any magical leaps. Wallace's disparagements towards the project are plenty accurate.
By and large, though, AI research occurs in little steps, and most of those steps are like this one. There is a need for a good understanding of what works and what doesn't work for smaller tasks before we're going to solve the bigger problems. What you seem to call "Cognitive Imitation" I would often call "Trying to understand cognition".
Yeah. Exactly. Cyc is a little step too.
Why a social robot? (Score:3, Insightful)
So it's a neat exercise. Is this really what we want robots to do? Recognizing human emotional states and predicting their responses from facial expressions and actions is one of the things humans do best. Why work at making a robot do it? It would seem to make more sense to design robots to do things that humans are BAD at, rather than having them try to do things we're GOOD at.
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:2)
Because people don't communicate to each other with a keyboard or mouse. If we want robots/computers/silicon-whatever to be able to perform tasks of any sort for non-experts, we need to be able to communicate with them more naturaly, and that means includes gestures and expressions.
-Andrew
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It's what I'm doing now.
If we want robots/computers/silicon-whatever to be able to perform tasks of any sort for non-experts...
I'm not saying that the short-term goal isn't a laudable one - or at least a stimulating intellectual exercise. I'm more concerned about the long term. Do we WANT robots performing tasks for non-experts? There are more than enough human non-experts around, and we keep making more. I guess it just seems more sensible to me to work on making robots that ARE experts. Particularly if they're made to be expert at things human have difficulty doing.
Gestures and expressions are just another form of communication, and if you want to use them to communicate with your robot, be my guest. But gestures and expressions are extremely subtle (fractions of a centimeter in eyelid position can communicate volumes) and alarmingly variable, at least as humans use them. They also very subject to contextual cues. I expect that getting a robot to reliably recognize and interpret human gestures and expression will be far more difficult that getting it to recognize and interpret human speech. With speech we at least know most of the rules. We're still learning about nonverbal human communications ourselves.
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:2)
Hwah?
Humans, *good* at social interaction?
Sure, we're leading the pack species-wise, but I wouldn't go so far as to call humanity as a whole "good" at social graces.
As proof, I submit any number of individuals employed in the "service" industry. Maybe one out of every ten has -good- social skills, and the primary role of a service person is to interact with the general public!
I much prefer interacting with a cheerful, courteous automaton than with a surly, mumbling automaton, human or robotic...
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:4, Insightful)
That's all he said, but I've been thinking about it ever since. Would I want to get in an elevator with a huge, industrial looking faceless machine? Okay, yes I would, but would my mom? No. What about a robot that has a face, but that stares grimly straight ahead? Or one that continually tries to make eye contact? Wouldn't those all seem creepy inside an elevator?
The fact is, human behavior is highly context specific, and we feel uncomfortable and /or threatened when "people" around us behave improperly. Don't believe me? Try peeking over a bathroom stall sometime. That's why we need a socially aware robot.
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:1)
You can not just work on one part of science at a time, you must progress the whole pack slowly. Because a robot that can interact with us isn't just about a robot maid, its about the future, and how computers will soon be able to know what we want when we say something. Computers will not be so anal, when you give a command, it might not take it literally as proper english suggests, but how we actually talk. I might sense our emotions and understand someone is mad and doesn't mean what they say. There are so many applications for the future.
Think of the star trek doors, how do they know when to open? It isn't motion sensored primitive stuff, since they will walk right by it, or close to it and it won't open, but it is based on a AI that monitors your motion, and walking patterns, maybe your conversation too. I know its just a show with guys pulling the doors, but thats what it is meant to be anyways.
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:5, Interesting)
Bwuahahahahahahahahaa!!!!!
Sorry.. but if we're so good at recognizing emotions and predicting responses from facial expressions, then why are there so many divorces? That alone is proof that we SUCK at recognizing each other's needs..
On that note, maybe I'll start work on AICounselor_v1.0Beta.tar.gz now.. I'm sure GRACE would enjoy that module.
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With all things being equal.. well, no, that's boring..
AICounselor (Score:2)
On that note, maybe I'll start work on AICounselor_v1.0Beta.tar.gz now.. I'm sure GRACE would enjoy that module.
Better yet, why don't you start work on AICounselor_Troi_v1.0Beta.tar.gz now! I'm sure WE would enjoy that module.
GMD
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:2)
Sorry.. but if we're so good at recognizing emotions and predicting responses from facial expressions, then why are there so many divorces?
If we're so bad at it, why are there so many marriages? People are at least good enough at it to convince themselves and others that they'd be compatible as lifelong partners. Try getting a robot to do that.
That alone is proof that we SUCK at recognizing each other's needs..
Not necessarily. Humans are pretty good at recognizing each others needs, by both speech and non-verbal cues. They may not always be so good at meeting those needs though.
Re:Why a social robot? (Score:2)
AICounselor_v1.0Beta.zoid.tar.gz
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Re:Why a social robot? (Score:2)
So, without wanntig to diss on your remark, because you are right in many ways: while we may seem to be doing rather average reading the face of someone, it is much more likely that it is due to the fact that we don't know the person that well, don't know how to give an appropriate response, instead of being unable to read their face, that causes all these human issues. Maybe one day we will be having stupid arguments with robots, who knows..
Hozever, imho we're still a very long way from truely intelligent behavior, because a) you need lots of context and b) you need lots of noise. Both of them are impractical for current silicon. The best quantum computer can deal with just 8 bits.. not terribly impressive..
cheers,
GRACE should go on tour (Score:2)
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Robots wander the halls around often. I'm oddly used to it.
I recall something vaguely like this. (Score:5, Informative)
Robot (Score:1)
You're very nearly human you're so well disguised.
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Hmmm, unsocial geeks programming social robots. Now tell me if I am wrong but, dont you think if an unsocial geek can program a social robot, the geek himself has the capabilities of being social himself?
Re:Topic goes here (Score:2, Interesting)
Being able to program a computer to do something well doesn't mean you can do it yourself. I've written programs that play chess much better than I can.
Another factor here is the "dancing bear" effect. A dancing bear isn't impressive because it dances well. It is impressive because it dances at all. Behaviour that is amazingly social for a robot may be pretty dismal for a human.
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The creator are sexists (Score:3, Funny)
Re:The creator are sexists (Score:2, Funny)
Hell, it 's down. I guess girls can't make web pages either.
Re:The creator are sexists (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This post is sexist (Score:1)
--Sam L-L
Re:The creator are sexists (Score:2)
If a woman has cervical cancer and can no longer reproduce, is she no longer a female? Or if she loses her breasts to cancer, how about then?
You are female if you act like a female.
My dictionary lists this as one definition of female: "Characteristic of or appropriate to this sex; feminine."
And why shouldn't males be able to develop a female robot? Guys stare at females all the time, they ought to know what they look like enough to make a female robot.
By your logic, we should not have male gynecologists either.
Yeah....
Re:The creator are sexists (Score:2)
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Re:The creator are sexists (Score:5, Insightful)
In English the masculine is used in gender-neutral cases where the gender cannot be specified before hand ("The officer should have his standard equipment present").
The feminine is used in cases of abstract personification ("The United States has her hands full") of a concept or an object (Freedom or automobiles).
Much like a car, to give it "personality" would move it from the first case to the second. Thus when you give a generic machine a specific voice, it is (usually) female).
But, as with all usage, it is up to the user. There is a strong push for gender neutral language in most things. The problem is that in cases that are purely up to personal taste, these rules apply.
So you can't tell someone to not make their robot feminine. But you can tell someone to make their manual not masculine.
And you seem to think their purpose was purely political (ie that there was a certain quota that needed to be maintained so they added a female robot to offset the male engineers). I really think it is much simplier than that.
Sirius? (Score:1)
Share and enjoy!
Cool! I anticipate... (Score:2)
go wrong
go wrong
While I liked the "Cherry 2000" model, (Score:1)
Robots in tuxes (Score:1)
On a side note, with the robot conference and the Milky Way mapping thing [slashdot.org], does anyone else get the feeling we're living in an Isaac Asimov book? (Go here [amazon.com] and put author: asimov AND title: (robots OR foundation) in the Power Search box and buy and read all matching items if you don't get the reference)
Re:Robots in tuxes (Score:3, Funny)
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And yes, its a very funny image
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She runs linux eh? (Score:2, Funny)
Trailer park trash comment. (Score:2)
That is all
--toq
so long and thanks for all the fish ... (Score:1)
How Long... (Score:4, Funny)
Social Robot? (Score:1)
GRACE as a Battle Bot (Score:2, Funny)
She'd get along great with Gaak, the robot that escaped [slashdot.org] from its masters and made it to the parking lot. I see a wonderful romance developing, or at least a great Thelma-and-Louise chase scene.
On a related note, wouldn't a battle bot capable of social engineering the judges be a great thing? "I protest! My opponent is cheating!" "Never mind that broken wheel, t'is but a flesh wound!" Of course, she'd have be toughened up and given a weapon of some kind; sarcastic banter vs. a wedge is hardly a fair fight.
Re:GRACE as a Battle Bot (Score:1)
That reminds me of a beer commercial where the bot opens a fridge full of ice-cold booze, the opposition manuevers their bot into position to grab the beer and bring it back, and suddenly the beer-bearing fridge pulls out a hammer from behind and whacks the other bot to smitherings.
oh no! multiple A's (Score:2)
Does this mean in 20 year we will be reading how the AAAI is sueing people for circumnavigating there robots copyprotection scheme?
Social Robot web/drink server is up! (Score:2)
I also have plans to do a Quake server that will actually come to your LAN party and kick your ass in person!
Please check it out! http://www.socialrobotservesu.org [socialrobotservesu.org] It might be unavailable right now, I'm having a barbeque!
Does GRACE connect to internet? (Score:1)
Re:Does GRACE connect to internet? (Score:5, Interesting)
"She has a nice personality..." (Score:1, Offtopic)
Wow. I mean, she may be nice, but put a bag over that head! In fact, put one over yours in case hers falls off!
Separated at Birth? (Score:2)
pictures of grace (Score:1)
I am building a space robot.. (Score:2, Funny)
It was the worst Christmas ever.
Corn_Boy - oh no! sparks, did anything catch on fire
Lowtax - Grandma did, but I got a Pusher robot to shove her outside into the snow."
Credit where credit is due [somethingawful.com]
Oh great (Score:2)
Wonderful. First we have them registering themselves at conferences, the next thing you know they will register their own software installed on themselves.
Does this mean in a few years I'll have to get my robot her own e-mail address for all the spam she gets?
AI Advacnes (Score:1)
What is this? (Score:2)
What will this be like in 2050? (Score:4, Funny)
Laser rangefinders? (Score:2, Informative)
Grace uses floor-level laser range-finders to find her way around; the laser beams go straight through glass, rather than being reflected as they are with other obstacles."
I can see the laser rangefinders at the bottom, but it also has a bunch of ultrasound transducers in the middle, and some other lens(laser scanner?) above those in front. The glass shouldn't be too much of a problem provided that the ultrasonics are working.
Sonar does have some problems, but it works well enough on the robots I've seen/used/built. The ultrasound clicks they make can be annoying, but it works. At a university I toured once, they were demonstrating some robots, a heathkit one, and two custom ones which looked exactly like GRACE, execpt they had thermal, visible, and UV(I think) cameras, 24 ultrasonics, laser rangefinders, a 3D laser scanner on top, and no screen. The robots were roaming around, and greeting people. They didn't seem to have any problem avoiding obstacles, it was actually kind of funny when the heathkit said "Pardon me." to a supply cart:)
She even runs linux. (Score:2)
Yeah, blue screens of death are very socially degrading, aren't they?
Still, what I wouldn't give to hear the robot screaming "Kernel Panic", "Kernel Panic", lift up a knife and start tearing up the place.
On the other side of the room, a robot running FreeBSD lets out a war cry...
Knowing your limitations (Score:3, Interesting)
"solicited drama students to teach GRACE how to act like a human so it will make people feel comfortable"
You have to give the builders points for knowing their limitations.
Re:Knowing your limitations (Score:3, Funny)
You have to give the builders points for knowing their limitations.
I went to CMU and the drama students are the *last* people I'd go to if I wanted to teach a robot to act "human."
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Re:Her goal? (Score:3, Funny)
"Why does it make you feel that way that What is my goal?"