The Bulova Accutron 142
warewolfsmith writes "The Bulova Accutron. Introduced in 1961, it was the first successful transistorized watch, far more accurate than any other watch then on the market and a major advance in timekeeping technology. Prior to reading this article I had never heard of it. Interesting history." There are a number of websites devoted to it.
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http://watch.gallery/b/bulova/accutron/218/asym/14 (Score:1)
I'm not big on accutrons although they certainly have a cult following in the watch world, but I couldn't pass this one up.
For the dns-impaired try http://vrx.net/richard/watches/b/bulova/accutron/
How is this news? (Score:1)
Transistor history (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Transistor history (Score:1)
Re:Transistor history (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe around since Henry Ford II, not the original. In the 50's the early computers still had tubes and I don't believe even a transistor radio was out until late 50's at the earliest.
There may have been electric watches prior to the accurton (Hamilton, I recall had early ones), but not transistor filled. It wasn't much before that time that they were able to draw wire fine enough, for one thing, even for coils.
Re:Transistor history (Score:1)
Hmmm, the first trasistors were made in 1945... I guess what you say is true, though, since Henry Ford did live until 1947....
Re:Transistor history (Score:2)
All the clichéd posts into one. (Score:4, Funny)
(+1 Funny) -- "The Bulova Accutron replaces the old Bulova Helluvaweight, a valve operated watch which the wearer pulled along behind them in a shopping cart."
(-1 Flamebait) -- "Who cares about this old crap? It's just old technology that we don't use now anyway."
(-1 Troll) -- "This sucks. Using transistors in a watch? Nowadays we use pure silicon, which they actually had in the 60's but they were unable to see the benefits."
(-1 Overrated) -- "Hi, I'm John Romero/Alan Cox/Linus Torvalds, and I thought I'd drop in and just say 'Hi'"
Re:All the clichéd posts into one. (Score:2)
Re:All the clichéd posts into one. (Score:3, Funny)
No wonder they haven't approved my sumbmission on the new Apple Lisa....
Re:All the clichéd posts into one. (Score:1)
Christ, it's not like Taco's sitting behind you with a gun to your head. It's the worst kind of sheeple that consume anything that's offered to them. Activate that meat pie in your skull and exhibit some discretion.
Or don't. I'll flame you next time, too.
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Advertisement? (Score:2, Funny)
Don't forget to checkout the Seiko Kinetic Watch (Score:1)
Just wait till the capacitor craps out (Score:1)
And in case you didn't know, watches didn't require batteries before the Accutron, either. In fact, none of my modern nor vintage watches require batteries. (And no, they're not Kinetics.)
Re:Don't forget to checkout the Seiko Kinetic Watc (Score:1, Funny)
Recharges best when flogging your bishop.
Ironically enough (Score:1)
How is that ironic? (Score:2)
Re:How is that ironic? (Score:1)
Why are watches less accurate today? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How is that ironic? (Score:2)
Of course he does. He's heard the song...
Re:Ironically enough (Score:1)
Quite interesting story, actually. A quick search on Google turned up this page about how John Harrison solved the longitude problem [nmm.ac.uk]. A true engineer!
Re:Ironically enough (Score:2)
When quartz watches first appeared they were more accurate than most mechanical watches. This forced the swiss watchmakers to improve their product and they introduced the 'chronometer' certification.
For a hefty price you can now buy a mechanical watch that is significantly more accurate than most quartz watches.
WWJD (Score:1)
To the moon, Alice... (Score:3, Interesting)
Totally false (Score:2)
The Accutron movement was used in some instrumentation, if I recall correctly. The watches weren't approved for use on the moon.
100% wrong (Score:1)
Not a Seamaster (Score:1)
Re:Not a Seamaster (Score:2)
I wanted the speedmaster because it was the "moon watch" but they were hard to find then.
The best thing about the Accutron was the cool sound they made. My grandfather had one, and I keep looking for one of the early ones.
Yes, you are right (Score:1)
Incidentally, I have two Seamasters myself (one vintage and one new black/black). Great watches, even if I'm not a big fan of modern Omegas. (Especially their horrible advertising.)
Yes, but.. (Score:1)
I had one. It made a faint whine that sounded a lot like a mosquito. If you wore it while sleeping (which I did), and ended up with your wrist near your (or perhaps someone else's) ear, it could wake you (or other owner of ear) up.
Re:To the moon, Alice... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:To the moon, Alice... (Score:2, Interesting)
They didn't take too well to strong magnetic fields either. I was at MIT in 1967, and a graduate student was showing me around.
We found a huge permanent magnet from an old military magnetron mounted on a stand. I decided to stick my hand between the poles to see if I could feel anything.
The graduate student spotted the accutron on my wrist and said "Don't do that!!"
Too late. My watch went sproiing and quit. When I took it apart, I found the tuning fork poles had been pulled apart, ruining the mechanism.
I immediately bought another one, and took much better care of it.
WRONG: FYI it was an Omeg Speedmaster Professional (Score:1, Informative)
Here is a picture of it with Buzz Aldrin wearing it proudly
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/ap11a
parts on Ebay (Score:1)
I have a classic Accutron (waterproof to 666 feet! how devilish) and need a new crystal.. parts are fairly common on Ebay if you take a look. Good luck.
Prediction for tomorrow's Slashdot front page (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Fax machine history (Score:1)
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Are those somehow different than the Chinese characters used in Chinese? Last time I checked, Japanese used Japanese characters (Kanji or Kana, the two major character sets in Japanese if my memory is correct).
I've seen the ad... (Score:1)
On a program on watches, one of the excellent series The Secret Life Of Machines, shown on Channel 4.
"Accurate to within a minute a month, guaranteed!"
I'm just wondering how many people reading this have realised that watches are still filled with transistors, albeit smaller. Nowadays people probably dont think of digital technology at such a "low level".
Ali
Re:I've seen the ad... (Score:1)
I made a post with a link to watch the ad you mentioned and others here (link) [slashdot.org]
perspective (Score:1)
Re:perspective (Score:5, Interesting)
Before the Accutron, watches, even quite expensive ones, could gain or lose a minute A DAY.
After the Accutron, there was the Pulsar, the first quartz watch, which I also lusted after and also couldn't afford. I believe this was the first quartz watch, certainly the first well-known one. It had a red LED display, and the drain on the batteries was so high that it just displayed a black face until you pushed a button on the side, then the LED's lit up. John D. MacDonald wrote about one in one of the Travis McGee novels, favorably; he said that he liked the idea of a watch that only showed you the time when you WANTED it to, like the old pocket watches with flip-open cases.
Sometimes technological dreams to come true. In the case of wristwatches, TWO of mine have. In the fifties, quartz-crystal timepieces were huge things--I imagine they were rackmounted but I don't know whether I've ever seen one--that were kept only in places like the Naval Observatory and the Bureau of Standards. Being able to pick up a CHEAP quartz WRISTWATCH at the drugstore is a dream come true.
The second... well, I don't know if anyone remembers a movie from the sixties, "David and Lisa," starring Keir Dullea and Janet Margolin. Keir Dullea is better known for playing the role of astronaut David Bowman in "2001: A Space Odyssey." It was a heart-touching romance (really!) between a neurotic young man and a psychotic young woman. The young man is obsessed with time and has dreams of being trapped with his head in a huge clock whose rotating hands will eventually decapitate him slowly.
He tells the psychiatrist that he has a dream of inventing a watch that would synchronize via radio waves from a central location so that everybody could always know the exact time.
I thought this was a pretty neat idea, so I was a little alarmed when the psychiatrist identified it as a neurotic symptom.
Anyway, neurotic or not, I have a quartz-crystal wristwatch on my left hand, and upstairs I have a $25 Oregon Scientific clock that synchronizes via radio (WWVB, I think) to an atomic clock in... well, in Colorado anyway. (It's very puzzling... some of the atomic clock companies say the atomic clock is in Fort Collins, some say Boulder. I suspect the truth is that they synchronize to WWVB in Fort Collins which, in turn, is controlled by an atomic clock in Boulder.)
I've had the radio-controlled clock a year. The only time I actually need to set my watch is when the time changes. I just checked, and my watch and my "atomic" clock are reading within two seconds after each other.
Dan is happy.
Re:perspective (Score:1, Redundant)
Alas, most clock services seem to be wrong. My VCR continually records programs at the wrong time. And it's a VCR with a "self setting" clock. It's about 2 minutes wrong.... thanks to a lame broadcaster who doesn't know how to synch a clock.
This site [timebell.com] even tries to make a summary of inaccurate (public) clocks in some guy's world... crazy!
(Yeah, I know that the Bulova wasn't that super accurate, but it's the principle of the thing! We should have better time 40 years later!)
Re:perspective (Score:2)
You are correct, the clock is in Boulder and the signal is transmitted from outside Fort Collins. And now you can ditch that old quartz watch, as you can get WWVB-sync'd wrist watches now. I can't imagine the reception is very good, but I'd like to try one.
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Re:Expensive Watch Accuracy (Score:1)
Another part of the standard was that you had to unscrew the crystal to access the lever that allowed you to change the time. No accidental time changes were allowed. Put one of these modern digital watches in your pocket with a few other items, and the buttons get pushed accidentally every which way, and you have no idea whether what you've got when you take it out is the time or the futures price for unwrinkled prunes in Singapore.
My great-uncle had one; it was wonderful! (Score:1)
Thanks for the memory!
-- S.T.
How to get girls to put their head on your arm! (Score:5, Funny)
The coolest thing was, it hummed all the time, and the desks would amplify the sound. During a test, when all the room was quiet and scratching pencils, I would put it on my desk, next to Nadine, my hot 13-year-old desk mate, and she'd smile at the sound it made. That was great.
Then she'd say, "Nerd," and stick out her tongue. That was soooooo great. But I would blush.
Later on, on the foursquare court, people would ask about it, and if I wanted them to think I was cool, I'd let them put their ear to my arm and listen to it.
I tried the same thing last week. The girl at the bar laughed at me, said, "Nerd," and took my buddy home for some reportedly mind-blowing sex.
Sigh.
Re:How to get girls to put their head on your arm! (Score:1)
Re:How to get girls to put their head on your arm! (Score:1)
Of course, he'll probably find some spectacular and brilliant engineer who thinks it's hot and takes him home for some more mind-blowing sex.
damn, we must be about the same age (Score:1)
well, about the humming part. Oh, and I'd do it after a few rounds of Bong-O-Rama.
Geek.
Re:damn, we must be about the same age (Score:1)
Re:How to get girls to put their head on your arm! (Score:1)
This is actually 'off topic' but anyway - thru jr HS I had this pretty cool timex with a second hand that jumped from second to second, i.e., the second hand would be pointing steadily at 12, then a second later suddenly jump to one second past 12, etc etc. You could stop the watch by pulling the stem out, set the time, then push it in to start it again. Eventually I found out it could be accurately synchronized to the school time bells to the second, which turned out to be loads of fun, like saying "the bells going to ring" right when the bell starts ringing. What really freaked out the teachers was leaping out of the desk and running towards the door, crossing the threshhold just as the bell to change classes started ringing
Earliest watch (Score:1)
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News Flash... Hot off the teletype... (Score:2, Interesting)
The Bulova Accutron. Introduced in 1961, it was the first successful transistorized watch, far more accurate than any other watch then on the market and a major advance in timekeeping technology. Prior to reading this article I had never heard of it. Interesting history.
Woah! Oldtimers (pun intended) invented transistorized watches. They also invented things like ICs, CPUs, computers, and television. I don't know if I'm more frightened by the current accepted ignorance of recent history or the M$ Visual Studio .NET (R)(TM) ad that assaulted me when I clicked in.
DNA would be proud... (Score:2, Funny)
If anyone wants to buy one. (Score:1)
Check out the ebay results here [ebay.com]
Be careful! (Score:1)
Re:Be careful! (Score:1)
You could look for one with a chapter ring, but realistically its still a real Accutron.
Oh, and mine is one of the younger ones and still humming strongly, gaining about a minute a month, as in within engineering spec. Not bad for 31 years old. Really, its truly the ultimate gadget lovers watch. I've never seen anything like them.
Mine still runs (Score:4, Interesting)
I reaquainted myself with the Accutron recently. The battery was shot and had coroded a bit, but it cleaned up nicely and runs like new with the new battery. I think I'll wear it again.
My grandpa had two (Score:3, Interesting)
Hella Noisy... (Score:2, Informative)
Also, if you ever get one, pray that it never breaks. I had to have the coils replaced, and there is pretty much one guy on the continent who could fix it. Oh yeah, it scarfs down batteries pretty fast, too. All in all, though, a great watch to have.
Re:Hella Noisy... (Score:1)
I've got a 1969 Accutron that I got from my Dad. It eats a battery every 18-24 months. Most modern digital watches might manage to make a battery last 5-10 years...
I've had it fixed up, but I don't wear the watch that much any more because the strap is a total mess, and getting a replacement that looks similar to the original is nigh on impossible.
Bulova licensed the technology by the looks of things too - my folks have a nasty plastic 1970 wall clock which is still humming away - it has a huge version of the Bulova mechanism in a clear housing on the back of the clock.
Omega also made their own version (rather than licence Bulova's technology) back in the 60's or 70's. I can't remember the model name right now.
Re:Hella Noisy... (Score:2)
Maybe they do on your planet; in my experience, low/mid-priced watches (Casio, Timex, etc.) only get 18-24 months, even though I only use the backlight a couple of times per month.
More accurate than today even! (Score:4, Interesting)
Alas, most clock services seem to be wrong. My VCR continually records programs at the wrong time. And it's a VCR with a "self setting" clock. It's about 2 minutes wrong.... thanks to a lame broadcaster who doesn't know how to synch a clock.
This site [timebell.com] even tries to make a summary of inaccurate (public) clocks in some guy's world... crazy!
(Yeah, I know that the Bulova wasn't that super accurate, but it's the principle of the thing! We should have better time 40 years later!)
Other Bulova tuning-fork products (Score:2)
I had occasion to call Bulova about this thing, and their switchboard in Brooklyn, NY answered the phone "It's 3:52 Bulova watch time." Very much an old-line company.
The watch industry was hit hard by quartz watches. Originally, they were developed by the Swiss Institute of Horology to provide a new high-end product. But when they got cheap, it destroyed the mechanical watch business, and with it, most of hte industry in the canton of Neuchatel, Switzerland. The mechanical watch industry used to compete on accuracy, but once cheap watches became good, that was over. High-end watches today are strictly status symbols.
"Rolex is not in the watch business. We are in the luxury business" - Andre Heiniger, Rolex CEO
Re:Other Bulova tuning-fork products (Score:2)
What is so bad about that? All modern watches are very accurate, even the ones you get for $5.00 at Wal-Mart, so that is not a challenge anymore. After all, a watch is one of the few pieces of jewelry a man can wear, so they should look nice. My watch is a Bulova, but not the Accutron, the 97F17 [watch-universe.com], which is (in my opinion) a very nice watch, and was a Christmas present from my Grandmother. Personally, I don't think I would buy a watch that "hummed", I would get annoyed at it rather quickly, although this Accutron with 99 diamonds [watch-universe.com] looks quite nice. Unfortunately, that is out of my price range.
Re:Other Bulova tuning-fork products (Score:2)
True, although few quartz watches are actually certified to chronometer standards. There's a temperature-insensitivity requirement for certification, and most quartz watches aren't temperature-compensated. (Neither are most computer clock crystals, which is the cause of much computer clock inaccuracy.) Swatch has made some models that go through through chronometer certification, but the testing process costs more than the watch.
PC clocks really ought to be better than they are. Many PCs have errors of minutes per month, which is way too big.
Sold on the street as... (Score:1)
No need for watches (Score:1)
I used to own an Accutron, later an HP watch with LED display, then a Seiko digital ... but it's been years since I wore a watch, at least to tell time.
There's time on: the cell phone & PDA in my pocket. There's a PC, VCR, TV, or microwave in every room of the house. Radios in the cars. PC or workstation in every office & lab at work. Just why would I bother with a watch?
The only one I now own is an ornately engraved pocket watch, but carried as jewelry, not for the time.
Re:No need for watches (Score:1)
my dad was a Swiss watchmaker (Score:2)
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Re:Want one? (Score:1)
Really worth the money! (Score:1)
My Acutron was good for several days! By "good" I mean within 5 seconds of WWV!
Well worth the money I spent!
Fuzzy
Former Celestial Navigator
www.aviationsextant.org
Acutron remembered (Score:2, Interesting)
I have one (Score:2)
I got it as a Jr High grad present, of so many years ago. A few years later I actually worked for Bulovia for the summer
What a rush of emotion! (Score:1)
I'd sleep with my grandfather when staying at his house during the summer, and could hear the watch humming away on the dresser beside me at night. Grandpa would tell anyone who'd want to know about how advanced the watch was, and let them listen to the hum.
Grandpa has since gone to be with the great watchmaker several years ago, and I hadn't thought about the watch and all of the emotions attached to it until just now, reading that article. Slashdot may post some off the wall stuff, but I can forgive it just this once, just to allow me to go back to a time when I didn't have to worry about anything but mosquito bites, and spend weeks at a time with grandpa.
A truly remarkable piece of technology (Score:1)
I own an Accutron that my great-grandfather bought in 1962, and they are difficult to get repaired now. In addition, the mercury coin-cell batteries used in them are now verboten due to strict environmental regulations; many of the watches require special adapters/adjustments to use modern silver oxide batteries.
Re:who cares (Score:2)
Re:who cares (Score:2)
The Accutron was scarcely "the first watch ever".
> I wear my watch every day and couldn't imagine how folks in the '50s went through life without one!
I haven't worn a watch for about 10 years, since I find them uncomfortable (for reasons which I won't go into). I manage fine, because I live in a world full of clocks. If things get really bad, I can always look up at the sky and get a reasonably good idea of the time.
Re:who cares (Score:1)
Ever heard of self-winding watches? Then learn How does a Self-Winding Watch Work? [howstuffworks.com]
Find a good short FAQ about automatic watches Here [europastar.com]
The first hand watch was invented in the 1741. Then self-winding watches came about when Rolex invented the mechanism in 1931. On howstuffworks.com there might be an image of a transparent backside of an "automatic" or self-winding watch showing the mechanism. It's basically a half of a disk at the bottom of the watch that slides back and forth whenever the wearer does anything to move the watch (walk, write, etc.) This keeps them recharged for as much as 48 hours when you stop wearing them!
Apparently self-winding watches are coming back into style because they're so sweet and lose their accuracy at a rate of only a couple of seconds each month.
Sorry to bore you, but I did this research a few weeks earlier because I was interested in getting a watch of this type.
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Go for it (Score:1)
Cell phones mean no more watches (Score:1)
People can be late for meetings as long as they call and say things like "I'm fifteen minutes away," and it's now more acceptable. He also talks about how you sort of plan unspecifically to meet someone for dinner after work, and you sort of home in on each other in location and time by calling their phones in the middle of a crowd or a parking lot.
I never wear a watch anymore, really. I think the days of precise time for human scheduling are starting to weaken.
Re:Cell phones mean no more watches (Score:2)
Me, I still wear my watch, and I don't own a cell phone. I'm still waiting on the cell phone/pda combination that doesn't suck. And doesn't cost $500.
Re:who cares (Score:1)
Wristwatches first gained popularity with military aviators during the Great War, ca 1916. Because these were such celebrated heroes, the popularity of wristwatches then spread to the public and the pocket watch died, except for those needing accuracy. With radio popular, and every radio station had a time-tone every hour, and it being easy to set a watch, need for accuracy over a day or more was not so critical, and the wristwatch was the way to go, even though it was a bad idea. I already need one wrist for my cell phone, one for my TV, one for my computer, and one for the little tag that tells people where to return me when I'm lost.
Since nobody else has posted this yet..... (Score:1)
"You can't have any software run on a watch like this. You are so stupid! Why would you even think of that. Please don't post anymore. One last thing...Pity me"
There, does that sound ok? Why am I being so bitter today.....?