Handshake via the Internet 414
mattlamb writes "British and American scientists will touch using sensors over the internet. "The implications of the experiment could be vast, said UCL, which describes the event as the world's "first transatlantic handshake over the Internet." " Let the juvenile comedy
commence!
Oh I can't resist (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:2)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh I can't resist (Score:2)
telephone prOn just as good? (Score:2)
One of my favorite Slashdot comments... (Score:5, Funny)
Thank you AC... where ever you are.
What about the latency? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2)
Generating your own packet loss (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:5, Funny)
Soko
Re:What about the latency? (Score:5, Funny)
SOunds like you might need to readjust your TCP Receive Window Size Calculation.
Re:What about the latency? (Score:3, Funny)
echo "1" >
Re:What about the latency? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2)
for ($i=0;$i<10000;$i++) { &lick(); }
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2)
Neither does the age of the sexually transmitted computer virus...
Re:What about the latency? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What about the latency? (Score:2)
Forget latency! (Score:4, Funny)
not funny (Score:3, Funny)
and thus teledildonics became a reality.
Hey! (Score:3, Funny)
Other possibilities? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Other possibilities? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Other possibilities? (Score:2)
Assault? (Score:2, Interesting)
Adds a whole new meaning... (Score:2)
Let's hear it for (Score:5, Funny)
The fulfillment of the porn industry (Score:2)
Is it just me.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Thanks for reading!!!!
Read Lawrence Lessig ASAP (Score:2)
Now we've got things like videoconferencing, voice chat, the ability to swap pictures of--presumably--yourself, and it's making the Internet more like the regular world. Lessig, however, didn't make any strong value judgments about the change, simply using the fact to illustrate that changes in code can alter how the online world is experienced.
Then again, following the links you provided, you may just be a bit weird in the head. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
* [read: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.]
zzzzz! (Score:3, Funny)
oh my! (Score:5, Funny)
2. start porn site
3. ?XXX?
4. Profit!!!
Re:oh my! (Score:5, Funny)
Too much.... (Score:5, Funny)
"You can not only feel the resulting force, but you can also get a sense of the quality of the object you're feeling -- whether it's soft or hard, wood-like or fleshy."
One would hope this could be discussed without immediately putting your mind in the gutter, but with quotes like this, it's impossible. It's obvious what these scientists are really trying to develop.
Re:Too much.... (Score:5, Funny)
I am praying.... (Score:5, Funny)
American Scientist "And that concludes this historic First Ever Trans-Atlantic Handshake."
Brit scientist (to his buddies) "He he, he thinks the glove is on my hand!"
1000hz != High Frequencies (Score:2)
Does anyone here think that 1000 != High frequency and shouldn't require high bandwidth or special fibre optics?
Re:1000hz != High Frequencies (Score:5, Insightful)
Figure you need a fairly high value of x to determine things like woody / fleshy material, lets say 100 per square inch. (I have no idea if 100 is really reasonable, it may be more like 1000.)
Then you also need some decent resolution of those sensors, say 8 bits worth.
Then we get 100 * 1000 * 8 = 800000 b/s or around 800 kb/s (would that be 781?)
Now, my hand has more than 1 square inch of surface area, so scale appropriatly.
Subtract compression, add TCP overhead, and that's still several megabit at a minimum
And I always thought you only needed 3 TCP packets to make a handshake
Hard, wood-like or fleshy (Score:4, Funny)
From the article: "You can not only feel the resulting force, but you can also get a sense of the quality of the object you're feeling -- whether it's soft or hard, wood-like or fleshy."
There's no way I believe that quote wasn't designed for maximum comedic potential.
Handjobs over the internet? (Score:2)
Now even more ways to get shot down (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Now even more ways to get shot down (Score:2)
Just hax0r them for christ's sake (Score:2)
Re:Just hax0r them for christ's sake (Score:5, Funny)
Ok, now it's getting yucky. I'll quit.
Re:Now even more ways to get shot down (Score:5, Funny)
Now I can NOT get any action from women all over the world!
No, that is the beauty of this: You hack into somebody *else's* action.
Yeah yeah ... pr0n ... (Score:2)
Re:Yeah yeah ... pr0n ... (Score:2)
"Damn damn damn! I accidently selected 'Ru Paul' instead of 'Rub'. Fucken menu clutter!"
hehhehheh (Score:2, Funny)
What is the hardware? (Score:4, Interesting)
Is it a suit? and "hand" like object? a glove?
The article is very vague! Anyone find other article on this?
There is no handshake.. it's just hoped... (Score:2, Informative)
Two scientists -- one in London and one in Boston -- will try to pick up a cube between them and move it, each responding to the force the other exerts on it.
(...)
The implications of the experiment could be vast, said UCL, which describes the event as the world's "first transatlantic handshake over the Internet."
More information on hardware (Score:4, Informative)
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/nr/1998/phantom.h
Next Story: (Score:2)
Imagine the High Ping Bastards ... (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey, you grabbed my (insert inappropriate body part here)!"
Better technology already available... (Score:2)
Will be especially helpful for people whose posts contains the phrase "free pr0n".
first internet fake-out (Score:5, Funny)
[stretches out hand]
"Psyche!"
[deftly runs hand through hair]
article says it all. (Score:2, Funny)
ping - poke? (Score:5, Funny)
Hacker fun (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hacker fun (Score:2)
More info from MIT (Score:5, Informative)
Using this for telemedicine sounds particularly interesting...
I didn't want to go there (Score:3, Funny)
"You can not only feel the resulting force, but you can also get a sense of the quality of the object you're feeling -- whether it's soft or hard, wood-like or fleshy."
Latency? (Score:2)
Wooooohoooo! Commencing Juvie Humor! (Score:2)
Reach out and grope someone!
I touched someone overseas, and got a nasty virus!
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
When will we have bras made out of this?
I hope we don't /. someone's groin!
We can make politicians wear this on their head, and punch them when we don't like their votes!
I've installed this in all my chairs!
and finally:
OMG! It feels just like Natalie Portman slathered in hot grits!
Thanks, I'll be appearing at K5 on Saturday!
Give Credit (Score:2)
They Have single HANDedly created many JOBS for alot of Ugly Women!!!
too many pr0n references (Score:2)
Can't you people think of something more useful for this technology than that? Like for instance... um... er... do you think they could incorporate this into one of those Real Dolls?
Spam safety (Score:3, Funny)
"Mom! A pop-up ad poked my eye again. I'm bleeding!"
Speed/frequency confusion? (Score:2)
Re:Speed/frequency confusion? (Score:3, Informative)
Had to be said... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Had to be said... (Score:2)
That's covered by the guys doing the I-smell or whatever it was...
Interactive Computing... (Score:3, Funny)
Sample scenarios:
* eating cereal... ZZZzzzttt... milk everywhere
* on the bowl... ZZZzzzttt... poo everywhere
* frosting a cake... ZZZzzzttt... frosting everywhere
(etc, ad nauseum)
This is also the guy, however, that said he wanted to be buried with a webcam, so that people could watch him decompose over time, but that's another story altogether...
What this means for Politiicans (Score:5, Funny)
By Reporter AC
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In what amounts to a new twist on an old and venerable tradition, Senator Trent Lott (R) accidentally kissed a hand and shook a baby during a fundraiser in his home state of Mississippi today. The technical glitch was quickly discovered to be caused by an aide plugging the new TouchMeFeelMe internet tactile simulator backwards, but the parent of the jostled child was even less pleased than the baby according to witnesses. More... [reuters.com]
The Device They Are Using (Score:5, Informative)
Tele-Dildonics (Score:5, Funny)
What happens if you get a power surge? Rips your dick off and faxes it to Canada?
I know that would concern me
Re:Tele-Dildonics (Score:2)
Just to let you reassure you, it would be among the friendliest people in the world!
TCP/IP (Score:2)
already been done (Score:2, Funny)
On a more serious note... (Score:5, Insightful)
The article glosses over the fact that there are very, very few genuinely practical applications for this because of two insurmountable problems.
For one, our experiments at the time demonstrated that the hand-control idiom suffers from any lag; specifically that delicate manual operations are basically imposible with latency as low as 30ms which rule out things like surgery done this way. Hand dexterity depends on a very large number of relexive immediate movement in response to subtle stimuli like minute vibration of the tool, perceieved resistance, etc.
The second problem is one that operators of such devices very quickly become disoriented, often nauseated, because of the discordance between years of ingrained knowledge of how the world reacts to touch and the lagged/different input such tools provide.
People need to learn /new/ idioms for remote manipulation, not attempt to emulate biological systems. That's the same peoblem AI research has suffered from its inception: the day computers will display intelligence is when researchers start working on computer intelligence instead of trying to simulate human intelligence.
Same goes with tools.
While this might be a geekly thing to do (handshake over the net) and quite a bit neat, it's neither revolutionnary nor interresting in the long run.
-- MG
Best last line ever, and some thoughts. (Score:4, Funny)
Hands Across America could be succesful this time - with only two people. ;).
This could have interesting ramifications (no pun intended
Seriously, people are already more physically separated than ever; rather than bring people closer, lots of technology has only widened the gulf.
I don't think I'm breaking any new ground here, many /.ers have been in a place in their lives where they've not had close relationships (platonic or otherwise). Even holding someone's hand has a positive effect on people's mental-well being.
Could this be more isolating than positive?
Re:Best last line ever, and some thoughts. (Score:2)
Even holding someone's hand has a positive effect on people's mental-well being.
I Say: Your not holding someone's hand with this system. It would be no different than holding a water ballon or any other object/force that has some resistence. There isn't a person there holding your hand. All that your holding is an imitation. I don't see how the two can compare even if there is a "real" person on the other end of the system. I think that as technology continues on, the question isn't that of isolation, but more of a fundamental decline in the Humanity of our lives. The human element is under a seige. This is just another step in the genocide of what it is to be a real living human being. Why leave the house or interact in reality when you have all this technology to do it for you? I see many
My 2 cents. No time for spell check, sorry.
world peace, or world pieces? (Score:3, Funny)
I can envision a military guard next to the red button. Suddenly a finger pops out of his/her screen and presses it. "It wasn't me who pressed it, General, I swear to God!"
Next stop, Holodeck (Score:2)
Uh, yeah (Score:5, Interesting)
Sorry, I don't see whats so awe inspiring about sending data through a network.
Maybe it's just me.
Help desk uses, part 2 (Score:5, Funny)
Ann: "Hey, this new remote hand technology is great for our tech-support desks."
Bob: "Do you mean like showing callers how to reboot and find the Esc key?"
Ann: "No, for slapping sense into clueless idiots."
There's already an internet vibrator (Score:2)
I guess that saying about the pr0n industry really pushing the envelope of internet technology as a driving force is true, then...
E.
Though This One Is Worth It For The Comedy... (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like the makings of the first pleasure dome (Score:2)
Imagine a cybersex cafe instead of an internet cafe... you'd go in, and there'd be a counter, you'd slap down your credit card and the person would say "Room #15"...
Yup, lots and lots of people are going to get rich and a lot more are going to get some pleasure... Now the next set of moral questions... if you go have sex with a machine, is it cheating??? Technically your just masterbating...
Patent Issues (Score:2)
Steve
One word: (Score:2)
erm... (Score:2)
Good touch... (Score:2)
This is fascinating stuff. (Score:4, Interesting)
2. Provide someone with a transparent mask, and you have talking heads. Beyond the humor factor, you can see all the things they're not saying with their words.
3. Boxing matches, over the Net. Fight games, oh, and UT5 will be a whole lot more fun.
4. Back to serious applications, medical procedures could be performed, once this technology was sufficiently advanced. Doctors already wear scopes. Throw on some gloves with this tech and you can hire the best surgeon in the world to perform battlefield surgery(or for those who don't have war on the brain, surgery performed out in the middle of the wilderness.)
Yeah, I get the porn. Blah blah. So what. This advance is truly amazing, and we'd be fools not to see what we can do with it.
Hardware EOF? (Score:2, Funny)
So will we have to change the ol' phrase:
"You can pick your friends,
and you can pick your nose...
Re:You Know Whay This Means! (Score:5, Funny)
"when the day comes that a unmployed steel worker can strap himself into his Barco-Lounger and fuck Claudia Shiffer for 19.95 an hour, it's going to make crack look like sanka"
Re:Oh Jesus God (Score:2)
Might have more fun that way. I doubt women will flock towards this. Heh.