Divx Now Adware Supported Only 590
bogomip_bandit writes "The divx codec is no longer free, no strings attached. Until recently, when downloading the codec from divx.com, one could select Dr Divx for a price, Divx Pro for a price, the divx codec for free, or the divx codec with bundled adware to help support divx development etc. Recently the site has changed. Now when one visits the download page, the only free codec you can download is adware supported. This means even to just watch divx movies and not do any actual enncoding, one has to install adware on their machine. I for one will be finding a different video codec." Sounds like a good reason (if you needed one) to look curiously at Ogg Theora. Update: 08/20 20:04 GMT by T : Correction: As several readers have pointed out, the bare codec is still available, it's just listed below the payware / adware versions.
Look further down (Score:5, Informative)
http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX505Bundle.exe
Re:Look further down (Score:5, Funny)
How does an article like this get posted? (Score:3, Insightful)
<sigh>
Re:How does an article like this get posted? (Score:2)
typical slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
Way to go slashdot!
Re:typical slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
Lack of uality control is one of the pillars of slashdot.
Re:typical slashdot (Score:3, Funny)
I'm not so sure about that. I mean, how much quality have *you* seen roaming around here unfettered?
Re:Look further down (Score:2)
Re:Look further down (Score:5, Funny)
In the immortal words of Emily Latilla... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Look further down (Score:3, Funny)
So now, with the correction on the front page, the story can be summarized as: "The divx site changed and for a moment it seemed like you could only use an adware-enabled version, but if you look closer you can see that you can still get the free one". This can be further summarized as: "The divx site changed".
Way to go guys!
XviD (Score:5, Informative)
XviD is a great alternative, which looks just as good as DivX (About 5mb per minute gets you very good quality if encoded properly. 10mb per minute is near DVD quality.)
It's completely free and GPL'd, and it's also already very popular, by my estimates its the second most popular codec, behind DivX, for the (ilegal) online distribution of movies and TV shows, unlike Ogg Theora which is completely unheard of fringe experimental codec that no serious group has ever used for a release.
XviD source code [xvid.org]
Nic's XviD binary (best) [dnsalias.com]
A divX digest page with links to several other, older XviD binaries [divx-digest.com]
Re:XviD (Score:3, Interesting)
What are you insinuating? That Divx is something other than a DVD pirate's codec of choice? You're not seriously suggesting that it's a commercial video encoding proposition are you? I do video compression professionally and NOT ONE of my clients has EVER expressed an interest in Divx.
NOT ONE.
Re:XviD (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:XviD (Score:5, Informative)
Not quite, you have to remember to send your payment to the MPEG LA group for a "Patent Portfolio License" [mpegla.com]. There are a ton [mpegla.com] of patents in MPEG4. Here's an interesting link about a "per stream" fee [eurolinux.org] MPEG LA is even considering
Ogg Theora also has patents on the VP3 video codec but the license [theora.org] agreement makes it clear there are no royalties due for using or repackaging VP3. One of the key reasons why it's "fringe" is because it's hasn't been released as anything other than developer builds on Linux as of yet so there are no tools other than proofs of concept for creating and playing Ogg Theora streams yet.
Distasteful-Free-Alternatives-Ware (Score:3, Interesting)
It used to be we have shareware - the pay-by-the-honor-system system. Then came the time-trial shareware, which expires after the trail period, then came the nag-ware, which pops up with windows reminding you to register your software, crippleware, which had features that were disabled or functionality limited, then came the adware, which allows you to use the
Am I the only one disturbed? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm pretty disturbed by the fact that:
I mean, I know Slashdot isn't the New York Times. I know it's fun to laugh at the lousy jobs the editors do, and the lousy job the people submitting stories do, and how awful people's spelling and grammar are, but c'mon! This is getting ridiculous.
If OSDN can't afford to hire editors, fact checkers, or anything else, try to recruit volunteers! Do it like the moderation system. Allow random users to see stories that are about to be posted and fact check them. You could have "verified true" and "verified false", then "metaverification" to keep the fact checkers honest.
I'd be happy to check the facts and the grammar of a few stories a month for free, in exchange for others doing it the rest of the time. Isn't that the whole idea of Open Source? Many eyes, few bugs? One person's effort helping thousands more?
Re:Am I the only one disturbed? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Am I the only one disturbed? (Score:3, Insightful)
It also won't stand up in court when some for-profit company sues for libel. Seriously, this is incorrect information about a for-profit company that could damage their public image. Don't worry about the "real impact" - we all know that's irrelevant in the US legal system.
All I saw when I read the title "Divx (sic) Now Adware Supported Only" was "DivX alters business model to something I won't like". The headline is
Re:Look further down (Score:5, Funny)
Well.. there was that one about SCO showing off infringing code..
Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Look further down (Score:2)
We need the ability to mod the STORIES (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Look further down (Score:3, Funny)
But after doing some research, it can be shown that your comment was copied from earlier prior work that is publically available.
Therefore claiming that he stole your intellectual property is a false and misleading claim.
Arg
DIVX and porn (Score:5, Funny)
Re:DIVX and porn (Score:2)
What a minute were slashdotters??? Shit.
Time for DivX-lite? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Time for DivX-lite? (Score:3, Funny)
However, they can shove their adware up their asses, sideways. I'm switching to Xvid...
Guess what (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Guess what (Score:3, Insightful)
Nope, if th
ffdshow (Score:5, Informative)
Re:ffdshow (Score:2)
Using new codecs... (Score:2, Funny)
Well, that's all well and good, but alas, the pr0n websites continue to use DiVX. What are we to do?
Re:Using new codecs... (Score:3, Interesting)
i realize this doesn't apply to this story since the submitter is a moron, but the fact is that it would not be surprising w
You are hasty, my friend. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:You are hasty, my friend. (Score:2)
Yeah, this sucks. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yeah, this sucks. (Score:2)
Mmmmmm... Gyros!
Uhhh... (Score:5, Informative)
The codec itself is not adware supported. It appears the only thing they've changed is the layout of their downloads page - they've de-emphasized the free codec download, but it's still there.
Re:Uhhh... (Score:2)
A shame (Score:2)
Does anyone know of other options?
Jason.
Heaven Forbid! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Heaven Forbid! (Score:5, Informative)
At first, Project Mayo created the OpenDivX project. They claimed that it was "an open source version of DivX". (That claim couldn't be any more wrong; OpenDivX was licensed under the OpenDivX license, which wasn't approved by the Open Source Initiative.) Dispite that, people contributed code anyway.
And on one day (about 1 year later), BAM. Project Mayo suddenly closed the CVS and turned all that code into their own, commercial, proprietary DivX 4 codec. OpenDivX is dead. The end.
Not only did they stole the work that people contributed, they also took advantage of the confusion. A lot of people (including Slashdotters!) thought DivX 4 == OpenDivX, and thus thought that DivX is open source. That's plain wrong.
They stole the work of contributors without giving anything back. Sorry but I have no mercy for those guys if they don't receive compensation. DivX.com can go bankrupt as far as I'm concerned.
Xvid (Score:2)
Poor decision on their side (Score:2, Interesting)
Oh well, XviD is gaining popularity as well as developmental features. Soon more people will be using XviD and Ogg for encoding.
Microsoft Tax (Score:3)
Re:Microsoft Tax (Score:3, Interesting)
Not so fast:
good reason? (Score:2)
It was to be expected (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, DivX sucks! I can't quite see why anyone would bother with it when XviD and FFMPEG are available, both offering vastly superior picture quality. Still, I suppose DivX has the most bullshit and adware, ergo greater end-user appeal...*sigh*
iqu
Um, just remove the adware... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Um, just remove the adware... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Um, just remove the adware... (Score:2, Insightful)
If there is software I like, and no non-adwre alternative is available. I make the choice
1) Pay For the software
2) Allow the ad-ware to be installed, and fully functional
3) Find an alternative.
If you don't like the distribution model, don't use the software, the argument for stealing it out of distaste for the distribution method instead simply doesn't hold water.
I think the guilt-free popularity of things like Ad-Ware and cydoor.dll replace
Re:Um, just remove the adware... (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not sure what definition of stealing you are using, but it is certainly not one I am aware of. The copyright holder sent to the user an authorized copy of DIVX. So, there's no copyright violation. The user decicides to change the copywrited work that was sent to them, via the removal of adware, which is well within their fair
Doesn't work (Score:2)
Ben
This is why OSS is always better... (Score:2, Insightful)
There *IS* an open source DivX: XviD. (Score:3, Informative)
Basically, the DivX guys seem more concerned with becomming a closed source but open standard group right now, and making DivX into the next VHS/DVD type standard. XviD seems to be the flip side, free software, version of the coin.
(I should point out that this is just what I heard, and I've
VLC (Score:4, Informative)
It does a lot [videolan.org] more than I will ever need it to.
Re:VLC (Score:2)
I second that
Re:VLC (Score:3, Funny)
Re:VLC (Score:5, Informative)
But as usual, the idiot moderators mod you up as 100% Informative. Those actually informed would know that it is 100% rubbish.
iqu
No, The Print Just Shrunk (Score:3, Informative)
The codec download just moved right below. "Download the DivX codec (no cost)" still just gets you the codec with *no* adware at all. The three options on the top are Dr Divx(pay), Divx Pro(pay) and Divx Pro(adware). They moved the codec and player to the text link to make space for Dr Divx. That's all.
Ogg Theora...not quite ready for prime time (Score:3, Informative)
Q: This is great. When will it all be finished so I can use it right now, like this minute? Please?
A: Ogg Theora was scheduled to go Beta (that means the bitstream is locked down, and all features are represented) in March of 2003. Obviously, that's slipped. Alpha 2 is going to be released shortly; but please remember that until Beta, there is no promise that files you encode will be supported in the final release.
Q: Can I use Theora to encode stuff right now?
A: Yes, but we strongly, strongly recommend against it, for anything but test-cases. This is not a full release in any sense of the word, it is simply a milestone, and if you start encoding things right away, there's a really good chance that it will break when you try to play it with tools we release when the final version is released.
Re:Ogg Theora...not quite ready for prime time (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, this irks the heck out of me. The FAQ also solicits outside developers to "hack away" and help get it ready...but with Xiph's continuing silence on the project and a lack of documentation, nobody but Xiph can really contribute anything...
All is not lost, though - Dan Miller has actually been actively working on specifications for the Theora codec and such, and there has been a LITTLE work that's shown up in CVS since the Alpha 2 release. Just nothing real recent.
It sounds as though all that's REAL
vlc? (Score:2)
XVID (Score:2, Interesting)
I've not seen Ogg Theora in action, but I have seen xvid [xvid.org] do wonders. I'm sure there are many other options.
The problem is just getting people encoding the video to realize what a pain in the ass it will be for the end user to view the video they are encoding. If they've been using divX, they're going to continue to do so especially if they've actually purchased the software.
Good business plan :-/ (Score:2)
I look forward to some hacks removing the adware requirements from the codecs, or 3rd party codecs. I hope someone has the guts to do it.
Divx now AdAware supported (Score:2)
after installing divx.. [lavasoftusa.com]
What's with the screwy names? (Score:4, Funny)
I mean seriously, what sounds more professional when you're proposing something to your manager: "We should use Ogg Vorbis!", or "We should use MPEG Layer 3". I know which one I'd rather be saying to my boss.
Re:What's with the screwy names? (Score:5, Informative)
Read the FAQ [theora.org]. If you're too lazy to click:
Re:What's with the screwy names? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What's with the screwy names? (Score:3, Funny)
Substitute 'recent' for superflous adjective in bold...
I mean seriously, what sounds more professional when you're proposing something to your manager: "We should use Ogg Vorbis!"
'Ogg Vorbis!' sounds like the exclamation of a Medieval SysAdmin from the Canterbury Tales....
Agreed.. (Score:2)
Seriously Guys (Score:2, Insightful)
Anyone know? (Score:4, Insightful)
Uhm, it's MPEG4.. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Uhm, it's MPEG4.. (Score:4, Informative)
Not a bad business model, actually... (Score:5, Insightful)
First, you get the early adopter types to use it and spread it around by offering it for free. These same people start using it to encode movies, because they're techy types.
Once it hits the mainstream, offer multiple versions -- free, so that techies can still get it and propogate it, and ad-supported, so that nontechs who want the "extra" (ie useless) features will watch the ads.
Eventually it becomes so common within the mainstream community that you feel you can lose the free version -- the techies will move on to something else, or keep using their old free version, but the established mainstream use will keep growing -- and so will the ad revenue.
I don't LIKE it, but it certainly seems to have worked. Imagine how difficult it will be to wean our nontechnical family members to a new codec... "But you said DivX was better than all the others, and I don't care about the ads!"
So fickle (Score:5, Insightful)
Real player anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
How to get around the Adware (Score:5, Interesting)
windows media player? (Score:5, Interesting)
windows media player seemed to be the best player for all kinds of video content while any linux player was, well lacking, mainly with codec support. i remember when windows media player would auto-download a codec and everything worked great.
lately, i'm having a hard time playing many video files in windows media player and the auto-download codec thingie is a freakin joke. i don't know how many different codec installers i've been thru trying to make sure all codecs are covered (god knows how much adaware software has been deployed on my xp machine in the process).
frustrated, i've turned to linux for video viewing. i installed mplayer with the gmplayer front end and the w32 codec file.
now, i can play any codec thrown at me. quicktime? windows formats? no problem.
also, there's no better satisfaction then when my friends say to me, 'hey, i can't seem to play this video file you gave me.. how did you see it?'
'with linux.' (did their job just drop? yep, it sure did!)
Re:windows media player? (Score:3, Funny)
A few months ago I got an AIW9700Pro and started using it to record TV shows while I was out. For whatever reason, I downloaded the Windows Media Encoder to encode the MPG output... Turns out the quality is pretty damn good, better than DivX I think maybe slightly better than Xvid. Windows Media Encoder also compresses video to PocketPC size perfectly... People laugh, but I think its damn cool watching TV
Gotta hand it to the editors (Score:5, Interesting)
Right on the money (Score:5, Funny)
from the neither-factual-nor-new dept.
At least (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, mod me down for my superglue-to-buttcheeks maneuver if you will, but I'm right. Christ, people fuck up sometimes, no reason to reason to fill the thread with, "Dur, the link's right there, dur the link's right there!"
alternatives (Score:5, Informative)
This is not correct. Just get the 3ivx codec [3ivx.com] which is currently $free (but not free as in speech) that plays DivX, XvID and 3ivx flavours of MPEG-4 encoded video and has no spyware. It's available on windows, mac, linux, beos and amiga. Get it - it includes both encoder and decoder, and on windows it installs an AAC (advanded audio coding) directshow filter so you can watch those MPEG-4 compliant videos with MPEG-4 compliant AAC audio streams in WMP. I never installed DivX on my machine but watch DivX video all the time thanks to this.
And I have seen comparisons showing that the post-filtering if 3ivx actually shows divx and xvid videos better than their own native codecs. YMMV.
(Note: Please don't quote the doom9.org comparison that said 3ivx encoding was terrible. This is only because the tester used terrible settings for the encoder since the 3ivx team did not respond to their request for good settings.)
Why is this still posted then?? (Score:5, Insightful)
just delete the gain_trickler.exe (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm usually easy on /. editors but... (Score:5, Insightful)
That being said, this does show how vulnerable we are to "bait and switch" methods. Divx has been widely adopted because it was free. If all of a sudden we DID need to pay money or have adware on our PCs to use the newer version, it would cause problems.
Who cares about DivX? (Score:4, Informative)
WHY are there headlines like this on the front page? For those who are looking for encoder, mplayer [mplayerhq.hu] comes with the famous mencoder. If my memory serves me right, latest stable (pre-)release supports latest xvid and DivX encoding options.
-rzei
Wrong - So remove the damn story! (Score:5, Insightful)
Please support XViD (Score:5, Insightful)
XViD is on the path to surpass DiVX, being rapidly developed open source.
Nothing is different for the end-user's experience. Encoding is a teenie bit more flakey than DiVX, but I'd expect it to have surpassed DiVX within a year in the quality/compression department.
Now only if we can drum up enough support to put Real and QT out of business. >:-)
http://www.xvid.org/
Re:Unless... (Score:3, Informative)
DivX 5.0.5 is still available for Linux here [divx.com], no adware attached. Actually, it would be quite funny if adware was included as that would be the first case of linux adware afaik.
Um ... xvid, anyone? (Score:3, Informative)
Of course, you could always use a better MPEG-4 codec that happens to be open source, like XviD [xvid.org], or ffmpeg [sourceforge.net]. When I started ripping DVDs, I compared DivX 5.0.5 to XviD to ffmpeg, and IMO XviD provided the best quality (although all three are very close together ... ffmpeg was the fastest but lost some quality compared to the other t
Re:Unless... (Score:2, Informative)
Obviously, DivX staff would never do that since "spyware" would turn off a lot of potential downloads. However, EULAs aren't very informative on what kind of activity you are permitting this software to do in exchange
Wrong (Score:5, Interesting)
Wrong. Unless you use Linux/x86. Linux users of non-x86 platforms are not welcome:
And as you can see the source code is not available.Re:Wrong (Score:3, Informative)
Why use a companies incompatable codec when you can use the open source codec for free and it works with everyone?
download mplayer, be happy that you now can play and encode divx without tricks.
Freevo depends on it, why dont you?
Re:I for one (Score:5, Informative)
VLC, for those unaware, is a superb piece of cross-platform video-playback software, notably allowing region-encumbered DVDs to be played back on different region drives (certainly on Windows, anyway) and playing a load of formats to boot.
iqu
Re:Forget Ogg, its time for Quicktime (Score:5, Funny)
Re:ogg and divx are diffrent codecs (Score:4, Informative)