

Drink Coffee, Support Mozilla 271
MikeCapone writes "Heavy coffee-drinking Mozilla fans take notice, MozillaZine has a story on how some coffee company has dedicated a selection of gourmet coffees to helping the Mozilla foundation. Only half the profits go to Mozilla, but the coffee seems good..."
1/2 is HUGE (Score:5, Informative)
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:3, Interesting)
too bad i don't drink coffee though.. now some tea would be excellent but i guess i could getter better tea through my chinese flatmate.
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:5, Interesting)
Who cares? Buy a bag and give it to someone who does. I'm not a coffee drinker at all, but I'm buying a bag right now just to show support for this endeavor. This is an EXTREMELY generous offer on the part of RJ Tarpley, and I plan on thanking them by thanking the Mozilla Foundation at the same time.
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:3, Insightful)
On second thought, it's miles ahead of what most of these leeches who can't fathom why anybody would PAY for a Slashdot subscription yet visit this site throughout the day to bitch about it.
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:5, Insightful)
It's good in the fact that 100% of the money goes to Mozilla, but on the other hand, where's the attention? By actually promoting Mozilla via the coffee purchase, not only are you donating to Mozilla, you're telling the company "Hey, this is a good idea. You're doing good here." and you're promoting the attention the project receives as a result. And just maybe, it could encourage others to do the same.
Donations don't get press coverage unless they're in ridiculously large amounts. But when a company has pledged to donate a portion of its profits to a worthy cause, it gets more attention.
Which is why this story is on Mozillazine and Slashdot. A simple donation wouldn't have done that.
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:2)
I'm ordering 2 bags of EnviroZilla or whatever it's called. Thanks again man
Hopefully we buy lots of this stuff -- and companies will begin realizing what freaks we are and support OSS so much that they'll do more stuff like this! Everyone wins with this!
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:2)
Hey no problem! There's plenty of other things [google.com] you can do with the stuff.
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:2)
Has anyone tried this stuff yet-- know how it tastes?
Re:1/2 is HUGE (Score:2)
Not quite what I had in mind... (Score:5, Funny)
And check out their privacy policy! (Score:5, Funny)
From their "Info" page:
No, the square brackets are not editing on my part. That's what it actually says. :-)
I might just drop him a polite word...
Hmmm Max Havelaar... (Score:5, Insightful)
Do they get a fair share?
First things first, I'd say
Re:Hmmm Max Havelaar... (Score:4, Funny)
Man that guy always seems happy to grow coffee for the gringos.
Re:Hmmm Max Havelaar... (Score:2, Insightful)
But even if it's "Fair Trade" it's still quite unfair to me if the farmers only gets ~13% (in the case of $10/pound) of sale price...
Re:Hmmm Max Havelaar... (Score:2)
Most manufactureres / growers don't make anything near the sale price. For instance, the nutritional supplement manufacturere I worked for this summer makes things like Acidophilus and glucosamine/chondroitin. They sell them to resellers for like
Re:Hmmm Max Havelaar... (Score:2)
Hmmm (Score:4, Funny)
I'm game (Score:2, Funny)
And in other news, (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And in other news, (Score:2)
"War on drugs? It's hard enough to go to school on drugs" -Gobi SNL
SCO Lawyer - "You can't sue crack dealers, that's admitting guilt of drug usage and purchase"
SCO Exec - "So, look if it's going to get a few more points on the market, I'm for it."
SCO Lawyer - "Do you prefer the words controlled substance or are we sticking with 'Crack Rocks'?"
Needs a beer (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Needs a beer (Score:5, Funny)
Cool idea, but wouldn't it be better if you approached some beer producers instead?
Re:Needs a beer (Score:2)
Re:Needs a beer (Score:2)
Wychwood brewery [wychwood.co.uk] might be better people to write to - they have a history of weird names, and make nicer beers than Miller, Coors, etc.
Re:Needs a beer (Score:2)
simpsons quote.... (Score:5, Funny)
Barney: A double tall mocha latte.
Homer: It's not bad. (quietly spikes his drink)
Barney: Well, it ain't beer, but at least I got that monkey off my back. (quickly gulps down four cups, then burps)
(Cut to Moe)
Moe: Heh, heh, nobody gets away from Moe. Nobody.
Re:simpsons quote.... (Score:2)
A good advertising strategy... (Score:3, Funny)
Smoke crack, Buy a SCO licence!
Re:A good advertising strategy... (Score:2)
Fair trade coffee? (Score:5, Interesting)
I see that it's possible to buy organic coffee, but I can't find a word about the origin of this coffee, and the farmers that produced it.
If this is no fair trade coffee, that I don't want to buy this: fair trade, and a right price for the farmers is still much more important to me than the Mozilla project...
After all, the concept of fair trade is something that should go well with the Mozilla ideals, isn't it??
Re:Fair trade coffee? (Score:5, Interesting)
Instead, I'll continue to get my coffee from Merchants of Green Coffee [merchantso...coffee.com], where you have a wide choice of green, fair-trade, organic coffees that you can roast to suit your own tastes.
Oh yeah, and I plan to donate directly to the Mozilla Foundation so 100% of my money goes there.
Don't get me wrong--the owner is trying to do the right thing, and it's a step in the right direction for the Ayn Rand-ish culture of "every ethical choice is a selfish choice"--in this case, consumers get to contribute in a small way to the Mozilla Foundation by exercising well-honed consumption skills and getting coffee as a result. It's just not a formula that suits my personal tastes.
Re:Fair trade coffee? (Score:3, Interesting)
These are the same people that bitch about what bad drivers people are while they themselves are driving a truck or SUV that's 2 sizes too big for them while juggling a coffee in one hand and a cell phone in the other.
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:4, Informative)
Are you familiar with the concept of "Fair Trade Products"?
It's about giving the consumer a choice. A bit like forcing (at least here in Europe) the manufacturer of GM food to clearly label their frankenfood honestly as "Genetically Manipulated". Here, the "Fair Trade" label helps a socially conscientious consumer to avoid exploitative producers.
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2)
BTW, I've visited a coffee plantation in Columbia. The conditions for workers were appalling. Drying the beans involves spreading them out on large concrete pads that look like parking lots, the
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:3, Funny)
And I bet you'd have no problem consuming the grapes that've been squished into wine the traditional way -- between the sweaty toes of white laborers.
That was the lamest copout; are you really such a germ freak? I hear Farmers Markets are cesspools too!
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Re:Europe is not about fair trade (Score:2, Informative)
The GM food is banned in Europe right now because US corps refuse to have their products labelled as GM. They'd rather not import the products at all and try to force the issue through WTO. Labelling is EU's only requirement.
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2, Insightful)
On smaller scale (such as coffee bean farmers) producers can be forced into selling for less than (the fair) market price, because they can't reach the right markets without aid of traders.
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:3, Interesting)
"Fair" trade would only not be fair market if it were somehow subsidized to be as cheap as non-fair trade. If you look at its price it is obviously more expensive, and hence a direct relationship with its share of the market (although even more publicity is fine by me).
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2)
So by only buying "Fair Trade" coffee you elevate a handful of poor coffee growers into slightly less poor coffee growers. What I ask do they do with the extra money? Can you tell me that? Other then splitting the lower class in two groups what have you accomplished?
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:3, Insightful)
And do they? I ask because many of these programs are just feel good bullshit designed to take money away from people that want to do the right thing. I.E. a con job.
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Other then splitting the lower class in two groups what have you accomplished?
Well, getting even one half of the lowest class up to the next ladder is a good start. Secondly, encouraging people to buy Fair
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2, Interesting)
So you've basically absolved yourself of any responsibility towards the people whose work brings a hot cup of coffee on your table every day? What a humanitarian.
But of course, if we don't bother ourselves with ethics, one can take that stance. Nothing however puts you in the position to criticize people who think the current situation is wron
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2)
: these principles?
It doesn't. Remember that my quibble is with the term "fair trade", not with the concept of people voluntarily paying more for coffee.
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2, Interesting)
My girlfriend works for a non profit and its amazing how the funds get sucked up into 'administrative costs' instead of actually going to the 'cause'.
After all, if the non-profits fixed the problem they were trying to solve, they would by definition be out of business.
And dont let them fool you
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2)
What a stupid post. Are you really saying there is no difference between a non profit and exxon or microsoft?
Re:What is "fair"? (Score:2)
do you actually have a clear definition of the word "fair", which you are using to determine that market prices are "fair", but "fair trade" prices are not?
How much is half the profit (Score:5, Interesting)
I agree (Score:2)
Yeay, way to troll moderators. get a clue
Remember spiderman? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Remember spiderman? (Score:2, Insightful)
Great, just what we need (Score:5, Funny)
Flavored (Score:5, Informative)
As a side note, I have found coffee strength in different countries to be interesting. I'm from N. America, and when I moved to the Czech Republic, my collegues would allows comment on how strong I made the coffee (they would also make 1/2 liter of tea with ONE tea bag--When I makes tea, I makes tea. When I makes water, I makes water--Finnegans Wake).
Then I moved to Sweden. My in-laws quickly informed me that they only drink Skona roast by Zeagas (a VERY strong coffee blend) and showed me how to make it at their incredibly high strength level. All of my corporate English student who have been to the U.S. complains about the piss-weakness of the coffee there.
Re:Flavored (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Flavored (Score:4, Funny)
And when I makes coffee, I makes coffee-flavoured coffee.
Re. your spelling-flame PS below, it's "skanerost" (=Scania roast) from e.g. Zoegas. And it's not very strong. Here endeth today's Swedish lesson.
Re:Flavored (Score:2)
it's amazing how the bitterness of one coke-head drunken comic can infect thousands of seemingly intelligent beings.
This is the right way! (Score:5, Interesting)
A retailer brands a product with Mozilla (or Linux, etc.), gives a large portion of the profit to the community, and advertises that they do it.
The problem with previous implementations is that people don't buy too many T-shirts or mugs or things.
Those that buy coffee buy lots of it. How about a bottled water for OpenOffice.org, or a line of soda for AbiWord?
Re:This is the right way! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is the right way! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is the right way! (Score:2)
In the yogurt case, I'd advise not to use the ploy as a decisive reason to buy yogurt, but perhaps
Great but... (Score:4, Funny)
Gourmet food descriptions crack me up... (Score:2, Funny)
We start by selecting 100% arabica beans from the worlds finest coffee growers. The coffee beans are then carefully roasted in small batches by our Master Roaster according to his exacting specifications and delivered to your front door.
We take eighteen ounces of sizzling ground beef, and soak it in ri
mozilla coffee (Score:5, Funny)
Great Marketing. (Score:2, Insightful)
If you think this is expensive... (Score:4, Insightful)
Hmmm (Score:2, Insightful)
Maybe someone should do the same for Mozilla coffee on the engineering campus. There are only two coffee shops up there and they go through ALOT of coffee. Besides, its all the EECS kids loading up on coffee before the shops close anyway
A great way to advertise, no? (Score:2)
Then again, maybe I'm just a cynical little shit with no faith in American b
Either way... (Score:2)
I think this offsets any problem...
Netcraft says... (Score:3, Interesting)
Microsoft did this, too. (Score:5, Funny)
So, don't let anyone ever tell you that Microsoft didn't support java.
$20/kg coffee? (Score:2)
Holy shit...at such prices, that coffee'd better be damn good! I buy coffee for like $6 - $8 or something.
However, it's a nice publicity stunt, and hopefully a good way to earn some bucks for the Mozilla foundation.
Re:Cool (Score:2, Funny)
Good deal... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Good deal... (Score:2, Interesting)
Have you ever considered... (Score:3, Insightful)
This would be much better for your health and for the project.
Re:Have you ever considered... (Score:4, Funny)
Heretic! You can turn in your Geek ID on the way out, as you won't need it anymore...
Re:Have you ever considered... (Score:3, Funny)
stop drinking coffee and send all the money to them instead
Never!
You can have my intravenous coffee drip when you pull it from my cold, dead arm!
Re:Have you ever considered... (Score:2, Interesting)
There doesn't appear to be any definitive proof either way.
Articles that cite more in depth references:
http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/tche
http://www.coffeeperks.com/health.html
http://
http://www.cosic.org/health/pre
You may have a high IQ, but you're still full of crap.
Re:Good deal... (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe coffee is more expensive in the US. I'm in Sweden (second largest coffee consuming nation after Finland IIRC), and coffee typically costs ~ US$ 2-4 per 1/2 kg. (1 lb = 0.45359237 kg). Maybe $ 5-6 for "luxury blends" in specialized stores.
But I hear that US-ians generally don't tend to use too much coffee in their water... Maybe this is the reason.
Re:Good deal... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Good deal... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Good deal... (Score:2)
Re:Good deal... (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, I guess this isn't your average cheap "three bags of 500 grams, $7.95" coffee, but once you get acustomed to - not even really good coffee, but decent, eveyday coffee, about $5-$5.50 pr 250 grams is not unfair - and that's without donating to anything but the coffeestore-owners BMW.
I'm spoiled, I can't drink the cheap crap anymore.. I just can't..
Re:Good deal... (Score:2)
Re:Good deal... (Score:3, Interesting)
Does taste good though.
Re:Good deal... (Score:5, Informative)
Folgers is about $4.50 a poind, and this cofee is more that 10 times better - in armoa, taste, and in good-will (suporting non-plantation growers that care about the product.)
I'm not an environmentalist wacko - with the typical cofee plantations (in South America) are terrible for our environment. Basically they slash and burn, orver fertalise, the mechanically harverst - and once there done with that peice of land they move on to the next bit of rain-forest.
$10 is nothing for us computer programers - it takes you an extra three minutes to earn the diferance and the results are worth it.
Re:Good deal... (Score:3, Insightful)
you have a job? programming computers? and at $200/hour? I assume its programming a time machine which you used to take you back to 1999.
Re:Good deal... (Score:2)
I'm really close to my customers - they can't out-source me.
Just like auto workers can be out-sourced, but car mechanics can't.
Re:Good deal... (Score:5, Insightful)
...he says, just before being laid off and replaced with an Indian programmer whose weekly salary is about the equivalent of the cost of a cup of coffee.
Re:Good deal... (Score:2)
Re:Good deal... (Score:2, Informative)
I hate it went Corporations exploit charities. Like the Yoplait caps/breast cancer. WTF do I have to mail them in for you to donate the dime?
Some corporations are evil though. One vacumn cleaner company gave $1 to a breast cancer for each product it sold. However, it limited this amount to $500,000, and it spent 2 million promoting how good a company it was!
Also, the Walk for Breast Cancer is also crap. Its run by a for profit company(!). In some of its fundraisers, none of the money rais
Re:RTFA!!! (Score:4, Informative)
If they make a profit of $0.10 on a $10.00 bag of coffee, Mozilla gets $0.05, not $5.00.
Re:RTFA!!! (Score:3, Informative)
Coffee addicts: You can get the same beans at half the price, roast them yourself with a popcorn popper at home and end up with fresher coffee. Sweet Maria's is a wonderful thing.
Re:Cool (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Cool (Score:2)
Re:Raiseing money for OSS is good, but please (Score:2, Funny)
Kill me now. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Raiseing money for OSS is good, but please (Score:4, Interesting)
Caffiene withdrawals, on the other hand, can cause headaches...
Re:Raiseing money for OSS is good, but please (Score:2)
Caffine speeds up the reaction time of most medicines (I take my pain killers with coffee and it works a bit faster
Caffine in and off its self doesnt help a headache , if any thing in can make it worse (if you forget to drink enough water. Caffine causes you to become dehyradated in large amounts and dehydration isnt the best way to make the pain in your head go away
Re:Raiseing money for OSS is good, but please (Score:2, Funny)
Drink coffee???? I gave that up years ago.
"Oh nurse, my IV caffeine drip is falling out again".
Re:Post Destined to be a Troll (Score:2)
Regarding the Jesus quote:
"They laughed at Aristotle. They laughed at Gallileo. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." --Carl Sagan
Re:"only half"? (Score:2)
Yeah, not to mention that this is a huge percentage of profits going to a charity from a corporate source. Usually you hear them saying, "a portion of the profits from this product go to charity X." Wanna know what that "portion" is? Usually not that much, say 5%-10%. 50% is HUGE.