Smart Badges For Better Meetings 143
Roland Piquepaille writes "In an article appearing in the November 15th issue of New Scientist, we're told that the 500 attendants of the last Pop!Tech conference were carrying intelligent badges to put around their necks. EurekAlert! has released a version of this article, "Hello, will you be my friend?" These nTAGs, distributed by the nTAG Interactive company, contained personal details about their wearers. And as the nTags can communicate with each other via infrared links, they are able to send alerts when they see a good match between two owners. This doesn't come up cheap: expect $40 to $100 per badge per day, depending on the event. More details and references are contained in this overview which also includes pictures."
I Can See it Now (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I Can See it Now (Score:3, Funny)
You mean a 12" PowerBook [apple.com], right?
It's only a matter of time... (Score:3, Interesting)
Don't get me wrong - I think the idea is obnoxious... but when did that ever stop the yuppies?
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
Imagine wearing a smart badge that tells the local authorities you're on John Ashcroft's watch list for complaining about RFID tags on Slashdot.
Seriously, Slashdot gets up in arms about RFID and privacy, and now we want to shell out "$40 to $100 per badge per day" to make it trivially easy to track
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
Not all of us want that. I was going to raise the comparison with RFID's as well.
However there is one difference: one is voluntary.
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.tabloid.net/1998/06/17/lovegadget_98
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:1)
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:2)
as another user pointed out japan has had them for years and selected parties have had them in western world too for quite some time.
though.. what would be cooler would be some special
Re:Here's your device Mr. "Selected Party" (Score:2)
Re:It's only a matter of time... (Score:1)
KFG
hack the ntag (Score:5, Funny)
reminds me of the time i used my laptop to 'give a cold' to my cousins furby via it's infrared port between it's eyes.
Re:hack the ntag (Score:1)
Also known as "taking out one of the batteries." Sheer genius!
Re:hack the ntag (Score:2)
Re:hack the ntag (Score:2)
I offer a cheaper solution... (Score:2, Funny)
Great time saver (Score:5, Funny)
Great!
Now I don't actually have to talk to people to know I am uninterested in them.
This is going to simplify my life a lot.
Re:Great time saver (Score:1)
Re:Great time saver (Score:2)
Given that this is Slashdot, wouldn't it be more probable that that would work the other way around?
No Bluetooth? (Score:4, Interesting)
And no, Bluetooth is not dying like most of the USian
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:2)
And no, Bluetooth is not dying like most of the USian /.er's think.
Cost. Think, THEN post.
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:1)
Er...ok.
Article: expect $40 to $100 per badge per day, depending on the event
Reality: you can get a Sony Ericsson T610, which has Bluetooth, for free with a years subscription to a 13.99 UKP service (which can include 750 mins of free offpeak calls (including WAP) and 50 text messages).
Perhaps he thought of the cost? Perhaps it's you who is without clue in this matter?
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:2)
However, I agree with you that (A) bluetooth would be a better technology and (B) given its wide penetration of the cell phone market and computer market, the chipsets should fit the $40-$100 badge price easily.
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:1)
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:1)
They could use smoke signals if they wanted to.
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:2)
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:5, Insightful)
Again... It's just a guess. I think the whole idea is just dreadful to begin with, but whatever floats your boat. (I certainly wouldn't pay for it.)
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:2)
Re:No Bluetooth? (Score:2)
Cell phone it, quick! (Score:1)
Skip the PDA and install it straight into a cell phone.
It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:4, Insightful)
Alternativally, I can see advertising companies abusing the devices to get PI and marketing data. Normally I don't care if marketing departments market stuff directly to me when I'm looking for a gadget. If I can save a few hours of hunting around the web when I wanna buy something then I'm a happy camper, and it's always neat to be on slashdot and find a binary clock in a banner ad so long as I can turn the banner ad's off, but I'v got a problem with the shady bastards who will get my CC numbers and not tell me when they are charging me or try to get my money in a semi-legal way or who think harassing me is a good marketing tactic.
Re: It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:1)
> But I actually like the idea, if you goto a bar and are looking for a 1 night stand the device can automatically hook you up with another person, or if you're walking down the street and have your device set to lonely it can alert other people to your presence and make some new friends.
Yeah, whores and muggers will love 'em.
> but I'v got a problem with the shady bastards who will get my CC numbers and not tell me when they are charging me or try to get my money in a semi-legal way or who think h
Re: It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:2)
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:3, Funny)
Or more likely, a gaggle of cute girls get the alert on their badges and play "spot the pathethic geek". Then they all point at "Mr. Lonely and I want a One-Night Stand" and point and giggle. The bolder of them make obscene
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:3, Funny)
The geeks then watch as the women are barraged by men and the women asking for sex. Not knowing what to do, they begin to leave and one of
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:2)
As I said in my parent post, to which you so helpfully replied: "[o]nce again, text messaging [and] imagination" is where the geek gets his satisfaction.
Thanks for your excellent example of the geek tendency to seek solace in his text messaged (or in this case posted) imagination!
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:2)
Offering assistance and service is a great way to begin a conversation with the opposite sex.
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:2)
>with the opposite sex.
Yeah, but it's not going to get you laid.
Re:It's a cute novelty and a good idea (Score:2)
I already have a device which does this, it's called a face. I haven't figured out how to set it to anything other than 'fuck off' for the past 5 years though.
infrared? (Score:3, Interesting)
Badges? (Score:1)
Old Hat in Japan (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Old Hat in Japan (Score:2)
Embedded Computation (Score:1)
Re:Embedded Computation (Score:1)
now we can customise our lives (Score:3, Funny)
-- Andy Coufman, W.A.S.P CEO
'I was looking for "dinner" with a nice man, it's just they only had *interests* listed in the tags, not vital statistics like age sex and body type, what a joke'
-- Nacy Regon, blonde secretary
"I was like dude, there is no catergory for favourite open source OS - how am I supposed to pick up chicks with this if I don't know their favourite OS?"
-- Sam Towald, unix consultant (read unemployed) and part-time demi-god of the MUD world "Xenophobia Cryptographica"
"I really like these tags, they are really useful in meeting other homeless people to exchange tips on public defacation without being arrested,and places to sleep that aren't cold or noisy - and the best part is, they are so cheap that almost all my homeless mates have them"
-- Reddy Junior III, homeless
'I too like the tags, as being a scienBologist I am often abused by other people for being a "psycho loonie", which I find offensive, and I would like to meet other scienBologists without all the trouble of dropping the "I'm Bologist" line in the middle of a date (which isn't as bad as saying to the person opposite they have body thetans attached to their soul left-over from the dark reign of emperor Xenu, but hey, some people just don't want to see the truth). Overall it's perfect, all it needs now is a kool-aid dispenser!'
-- Will Fratman, scienBologist and loney accountant whose parents denied him uncensored internet access when he was young.
This is an entirely fictional account not representative of reality, all names used are fictional and no liability is accepted for accidental similarities. You can tell it's fictional because scienBologists don't have any freinds who aren't scienBologists in real life.
Stay away from me (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: Stay away from me (Score:2)
> While the idea of these things is good, they make it very difficult to avoid people you'd rather not waste your time with. The loud, twitchy, obnoxious, guy everyone is trying to stay away from better not have the same likes and dislikes as you - or 'Beep! Beep! Beep!' the badge will let him know you are a potential friend.
If they broadcast enough information, maybe they could be equiped with something akin to a bayesian spam filter, to detect that such-and-such a card is probably being worn by some
Re:Stay away from me (Score:2)
Ah, what our British cousins call "the nutter on the bus". Try to arrange your seating so he doesn't sit by you and talk you up the entire trip.
Re:Stay away from me (Score:1)
Easy! Substitute sound with a vibrator of the like used in mobile phones. You can be notified without running the risk of detection. If you don't see anybody threatening around, you raise a hand - if someone else doesn't find you obnoxious he/she can react.
Either way, even obnoxious people will make your n
The ole pick-up line (Score:2)
I give that line because if you really try this stunt, I'm sure that this is the only line that you've got.
This is so the future (Score:3, Insightful)
Many people with all the cell phones and internet connectivity they want are often incredibly lonely, unable to meet people in their own neighbourhood with whom they can identify and form meaningful relationships. Human beings like company, and a computer screen will never be as good as face to face comradery. So many writers have lamented how modern communications are making us more lonely than ever.
But the same technologies can bring us closer together. Devices like the one described, personal servers, and future telephones will act as our agents, letting us 'see' the friendly faces in the crowd. We'll know when a friend is at the same party, or at the same movie, we'll know when another avid Slashdotter is nearby, and we'll be able to find the kinds of people we want to find.
I predict these devices will become commonplace. The multitude of devices you have on your body will act together to notify you of who is around you. They will be seen as essential.
And for those that panic about their 'privacy', well, remember that like all electronic devices, you are in control of the switch. You don't like it, well turn it off!
Re:This is so the future (Score:2)
They may not be impacting your lives much, but they sure as hell add to the lives in the third world countries.
Being oldenough to remember using rotory phones, and having an apartment where everything had cords, I can assure you they have added a lot to our lives, not all good.
Sorry, had to do it... (Score:2)
Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabron and ching' tu madre! Come out there from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.
B. Traven, The Treasure of The Sierra Madre [popsubculture.com]
Less Freebies? (Score:4, Funny)
Dream date device (Score:2, Insightful)
Bert
Re:Dream date device (Score:2)
And you could ask her "What are your hobbies ?".
Re:Dream date device (Score:2)
This might seem like a trivial use of tech, but (Score:5, Interesting)
But seriously. Perhaps it could lead to a sort of in-person IM or friendster..."hey, you on aisle 9, are you really into Everquest, kittens, and bondage? Me too!"
Of course, there's the risk of spam, hacking, and stalkers...
Actually, didn't someone propose just this sort of thing with cellphones?
Re:This might seem like a trivial use of tech, but (Score:2)
Re:This might seem like a trivial use of tech, but (Score:1)
> became ubiquitous, maybe with an earpiece.
And to think there are still some of us out here that have issues with ID cards. No wonder the UK Government thinks it can push through such a scheme...
good Idea (Score:2, Funny)
how many times have you, as a "sales associate", asked "can i help you with something," Just to be replied with "oh im just looking/browsing". It can get quite annoying.
So charging for such tags seems quite acceptable. In regards to the price per "tag", the higher the price for each "im looking for
Re:good Idea (Score:2)
On the other hand, I can see the hot-chick bait standing out in front of her sucker-booth reprogramming her enhanced "lovegetty" to match every sap that's unlucky enough to fall into the trap.
His badge quivers with excitement, as he looks across and makes eye contact. She approaches and wraps her arms around him and beckons him to
Re:good Idea (Score:1)
I'm not sure that you have ever worked as a sales associate, and if so which comapny you worked for, so i wont jump to any conclusions...
With all due respect, violent.ed, the potential customer is not an interuption of your work- It's the reason for it. Products that sell themselves don't need salespeople.
and likewise, with all due respect, dollar70, products that "sell themselvs" still need people to put the
Re:good Idea (Score:2)
I wasn't making the comment from my "previous sales-rep" POV. The comment was from a consumer POV. But yeah, I did retail sales for a period of time.
OK, I'll concede that's a pretty tough market anyway... Your "just-browsing" clientelle are probably (I can already feel the karma dropping) deadbeats who aren't worth the t
Re:good Idea (Score:1)
as much as i hate to inform you, most managers require you to ask such questions. For example, at circuit city they have what is called a 10-feet 30 second rule; whic basically means that when a customer comes within 10 feet or has been in your "zone" for at least 30 seconds you must make eye contact & ask if you can help them find
Badgers (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Badgers (Score:1)
Way Overpriced! Use Palm Pilots... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Way Overpriced! Use Palm Pilots... (Score:1)
Why is this insightful? It says $40 to $100 a day. This guy gives one $100 solution and one solution 'under $100'. How is that cheaper exactly? You just offered the same damn prices.
Java ring (Score:5, Informative)
Basically, everyone's coffee preferences were stored on a central database, and to get the coffee you liked, you just touched the ring to the receptor. These days you'd use bluetooth I guess.
The ring idea was quite cute though - it was powered by the receptor, with the binary communications channel being rectified internally to produce power as well as transmit information. Ok, so you couldn't do that with bluetooth, it'd have to be always on, but there's probably still something you could do...
Simon
Absolutely Dreadful (Score:5, Interesting)
Believe it or not, people actually have the inborn ability (instinct) to find compatible people around them. Adding this technology will only serve as a device to exclude undesireable contact moreso than to find desireable interaction.
"Oh sorry, I'm really only interested in people who, like myself, have intimate first hand knowledge of the X-Men's superpowers."
In the end, you will have the same groups interacting as they always have, and the ego stroking will show no deviation from what has been seen before. It will just be more efficient.
And for those guys looking for meaningful one night stands, you'll still be spending the night with your old friend "Rosie Palmer".
Re:Absolutely Dreadful (Score:2)
Exactly. I attend networking meetings regularly and the old saw about getting out what you put in fits this to a "t."
My own personal goal is, every time I attend, to get at least three business cards from people who I don't know, and to sit next at least one person I've never me
Pop!Tech, eh? (Score:1, Funny)
and down the spiral we go (Score:4, Insightful)
we already have no idea how to talk to people who have different ideas to us. hell -- we're so scared of them we'd rather bomb them than talk to them.
now comes a device which can pretty much guarantee we can now go our entire lives never having to talk to another person with a different to us.
"you mean i can set this thing so that i only ever meet people who believe in the creation theory??? yeee haaar!!"
this is the reason we're in the shit that we're in people. don't you think it's time to use technology to help us start including... not excluding?
prof. h.
Re:and down the spiral we go (Score:1)
that should have read: "now comes a device which can pretty much guarantee we can now go our entire lives never having to talk to another person with a different *idea* to us."
my apologies.
Re:and down the spiral we go (Score:2)
Devon
Badges? (Score:1)
We don't need no steenking badges!
network the badges to help track down people (Score:3, Insightful)
Do it in phones (Score:2, Interesting)
Is it just me.. (Score:1)
speed dating (Score:1)
Re:speed dating (Score:2)
The logic (AND/OR) could cause problems. I mean, what if you liked big guys, cross dressing and a little light flagellation all separately, and 20 minutes later found Jesse Ventura roundly whippin' your ass with a bullwhip.
of course, we are all compatible (Score:2)
we already have those (Score:2)
Re:we already have those (Score:1)
Wears glasses
And knows all the really good sites
Oh wait, that's just a
Clues (Score:2)
Yes, and a lot of them are stereotypes which are often wrong. Haven't you ever met someone via the Internet first, and realized on meeting them in person that you would have crossed the street to avoid them if you had gone by appearances?
Smart Badges for better Mortage? (Score:1)
I'm getting paranoid because of all the spam.
NoSuchGuy
When will the spam come? (Score:1)
I can just imagine an unscrupulous spammer walking around convention centers scanning for badges, picking up their e-mail, phone and home address then selling this off to some penis enlarging-mortgage selling-credit card consolidating company.
Or better yet, sending those messages directly to the badges
Next thing you know, Symantec will be selling Norton Anti-virus Badge Edition to filter it all out.
Who doesn't love spam?
One of these would sure be nice.... (Score:2)
Brave New World (Score:2, Funny)
MU1BAB2: "Hello, AccountingUnit 1A41. I am MaintenanceUnit 1BAB2.
AU1A41: Hello.
MU1BAB2: Did you process last quarter Financial Reports?
AU1A41: Yes. It was hard. I like Wonder Brand bread.
MU1BAB2: I drive a Mizah Acutron 12. Its drives real good.
I was there--they were dreadful (Score:4, Insightful)
All in all the laughingstock of the conference. New Scientist must not have been there.
Sheesh. (Score:2)
do we realy want (Score:2)
Some of my dearest friends do not like the same things as I do. I have friends where we discussed opposing views on politics, religeon, life.. I like people I can discussed opposin view point. It is the only way to grow as a person.
It's been done (Score:2)
Shades of Brian Aldiss... (Score:2, Interesting)
In the 1961 science fiction novel by Brian Aldiss, The Primal Urge, a new craze sweeps Britain. All over the nation, people have Emotion Registers, which show a red colour when the wearer is sexually aroused, installed in their foreheads. The results are a breakdown of society's "morals", as people give in to their sexual urges.
Now, this isn't exactly the same thing (and what is at issue here isn't so much sex as questions of privacy), but the comparison is interesting.
Aldiss himself cites the story as a
Big problem (Score:2)
Also, part of being compatible with someone is having your differences and working around them together. Yet you'd never know about those di
Obligatory remark (Score:2)
Bullshit Bingo (Score:3, Funny)
Each player downloads a random collection of BS phrases from a central server, and the cards (using voice recognition, natch) automatically tick off each phrase as the management utter it.
The card will flash 'HOUSE' on completion of its list, confusing the management and providing a welcome respite to all players.
Prefer a cheaper voting device (Score:2)
I couldn't find any information about the hardware on the site, but what I really want is a very cheap tag that can be used by the wearer to respond to multiple choice questio
Re:Infrared? (Score:1)