Contour Crafting - Extrude-a-House 385
lww writes "An article in New Scientist discusses the work of Behrokh Khoshnevis at the University of Southern California to design and build a fully automated robot that performs Contour Crafting, his name for a process to extrude successive layers of semi-fluid building mixtures like concrete to create entire structures. In the article, he says 'The goal is to be able to completely construct a one-story, 2000-square foot home on site, in one day and without using human hands.' by 2005. I'm pretty jazzed at the potential to construct buildings with highly curved/creative contours that would be impossible using current construction techniques."
Suburbia (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Suburbia (Score:4, Insightful)
The rule of thumb is you should expect to spend 10 percent more if you're having an architect design your house. That means you'd add one percent if you made ten copies of each house. Many of said developments (generically, I call them hives) have only one to five different designs, so I wouldn't say the cost of design is in any way significant.
The major costs as far as I know are materials, labor, and land. Oh, and profit. Eliminating much of the labor cost would be great, except the price of houses doesn't seem to go down. I suspect what you'd do is increase the cost of one of the other segments (profit, probably).
Sure would be cool if you could getone of these gizmos from the Rent-All for the weekend and run up a new garage. I hope to see the site if it ever recovers....
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Interesting)
Don't forget the labor involved often does not speak english natively, so that increases the savings involved in training on five plans rather than 30.
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Insightful)
And your right, around here almost all the labor speaks american, not english.
Building cookie cutter houses decreases cost, time to build, AND quality.
(for those keeping track, I was in the architecture/civil engineering track from 1979-1987)
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Funny)
And that guy next door to you who has a house designed to look like a giant vagina is now reducing the resale value of your house...
Re:Suburbia (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Interesting)
Can you provide a reputable reference for this? I've heard the story many times but I am not sure I believe it.
Re:Suburbia (Score:5, Funny)
I think lpangelrob2 is right. If you notice, the designer of the building is A. Epstein, which is an anagram for "eat penis". Coincidence? I think not...
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Interesting)
What's to say they still will be? I find one of the worst trends in neighborhoods is houses that stand out (either they are ugly or make the rest look so). Can you imagine every house on the block looking like some artwork, worse, of different genres?
"Turn left onto Cherryh Street and keep going until you get to the Picasso-blue-period ..."
What's this do for builders? Go learn CNC so you can take the spec from the architec
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Insightful)
Since distance could be removed from the equation, how about the architect does the programming, and he or she could be anywhere in the world...
Great, now we're outsourcing construction jobs.
Re:Suburbia (Score:4, Funny)
2050: Union negotiations with the 10^20 member strong NanoBug Union are still underway. The NanoBug Union Collective has threatened complete disassociation of the entire world's building molecules unless their demands are met.
SB
hotels are built like this today (Score:4, Interesting)
Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, how does it get all the city bureaucrats on site in one day to do all the
This sounds like the flying cars we were all promised.
Re:Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:4, Insightful)
Uh, I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Certainly not for concrete and adobe, which are both porous to a degree. And aside from that, I'd really feel better if my sewage was passing through a completely separate system.
Anyway, a house printer would only have to leave the relevant gaps or channels in the wall for running utilities through. Or you could just drill in. Mind you, this is just for the overall shape of the house; the interior and exterior surfaces would probably be handled separately.
Re:Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:5, Informative)
The bureaucratics issue came up also. That one is going to be very tough. In the mean time, his applied focus is on adobe house construction in rural areas and third worlds. Oh yeah, and extraterrestial buildings (assuming we can make mud on Mars/Moon).
Anm
Re:Plumbing, electric, etc (Score:2)
I'd guess that the city would approve the process and inspect it during and after, provided there was sufficient engineering support for how it worked.
As far as your other question about infrastructure, they probably just drill it out the way they do with other poured structures.
No, they dont drill out poured structures (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Interesting)
First, I will take cheap, livable housing for the masses over beautiful housing any day of the week. The inhabitants can always redecorate it later.
Second, to my eyes, this technology allows you to build all kinds of crazy looking houses that would have had prohibitive labour costs in the original.
A very exciting idea! I am really looking forward to this new era of computer aided fabrication technology - my alma mater, UTS, has recently purchased two Statasys 3D printers [uts.edu.au], so if those cheapskates are get
Re:Suburbia (Score:3, Insightful)
These features that look "cookie cutter" to you probably look equally bad to the owners. As these houses age, their owners replace parts with new ones according
Willlmmaaaa! (Score:5, Funny)
Now, all I have to do is get Fred out of the way...
But seriously, (Score:2, Interesting)
Here's another such robotic builder concept. [midcoast.com]
Matt Helm strikes again (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Matt Helm strikes again (Score:2)
Thats it (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Thats it (Score:2)
One day? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:One day? (Score:3, Informative)
I can see the machine itself being installed quickly - after its track has been carefully laid.
The interesting bit, as the original
Re:One day? (Score:2)
Much of the benefit would come from things that worked well in stone, but not in stud-wall construction (or even cast-in-place concrete). Vaults and Domes seem the most obvious choice.
Re:I used to stick-frame dingbat homes (Score:3, Funny)
Thank god. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Thank god. (Score:2)
Re:Thank god. (Score:2)
Meatwad LOOOOOVES his hotdog smoothies!
Extrude, huh? (Score:5, Funny)
v. tr. 1. To push or thrust out.
Boy, the trolls are going to have a field day with this one.
A robot shat my house (Score:5, Funny)
Dunno if the article says anything about it... (Score:5, Insightful)
Not to mention they make awkward living spaces inside; it just seems that boxes work so much better in house design, although I would love curvature in the corner points in my rooms (a nice, soft, apple-like look).
Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... (Score:4, Insightful)
curvey edges wouldn't do well on the floor/wall boundaries either, for the same reasons....
curves are nice but they're not always practical.
Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... (Score:2)
Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... (Score:3, Insightful)
The other concern for me, along with your window comment, is that a significant number of conventions in room design, i.e. any picture frames, flat-screens, bookshelves, etc. are all flat-backed. You'd
RTFA (Score:2)
Instead of giving us an insightful comment based upon the actual content of the article, you've given us so much more.
Thanks!
RTFA (Score:2)
There is even a few [usc.edu] animations [usc.edu] of it doing a straight wall.
windows are easy, but what about... (Score:2, Informative)
Gaudi loved this kind of thing (Score:2)
I know a few strong guys who wouldn't like this (Score:5, Insightful)
Make him a house he can't refuse (Score:5, Funny)
Or during the night one of the house-crapping bots extrudes an entire 64-unit condo into your bedroom.
Re:Make him a house he can't refuse (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Make him a house he can't refuse (Score:5, Funny)
I need to build me one of those buildings in "Cube".
Yeah.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Yeah.... (Score:2)
Patience. This is an alpha version, if that. Rest assured that version 3.0 will do those things. (Seriously, no sarcasm.)
Given a couple of iterations this could revolutionize home manufacturing. I'd love a highly configurable concrete house, with amenities added in later. One of my least favorite aspects of modern houses is the lack of acoustical isolation between the rooms. Concrete will have its own issues but I suspect they will be s
Command & Conquer (Score:3, Funny)
...without tea breaks... (Score:2)
Exactly what construction sites has this author been visiting? I don't care if he is from the UK: construction people are NOT drinking tea in those cups.
Oh yeah (Score:5, Informative)
Fortunately, I downloaded the movies and made a BitTorrent version available: Enjoy.
Re:Oh yeah (Score:4, Informative)
Practical only for smaller structures? (Score:5, Interesting)
It would seem that this is because it is essentially a "print-a-house" device, which will be limited by the size of the "printer" as well as the type of materials that can be used for "ink." No steel buildings here, only ceramics, some plastics, or adobe-type products.
One thing that struck me funny is that they cited "construction of structures on Moon and Mars" as a possible application, but I simply can't see how it'd be a better option than, say, inflatables.
Re:Practical only for smaller structures? (Score:2)
*blink, blink*
You're in a hostile environment, where if your structure fails you die. Period.
Would you rather have a balloon protecting you that could be destroyed with a bullet (or high-speed rock?) or a solid structure that you really need to work to break?
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Practical only for smaller structures? (Score:3, Interesting)
So I can't help but wonder if it wouldn't easier to just cut rocks from the ground and weld them together. Or better yet, just find a hill and drill a cave inside it.
This has the good side of allowing windows to be made easily. If you don't need them, you can simply build the cave
Re:Practical only for smaller structures? (Score:2)
Personally, I live in Visual Studio, but I can see that certain arty types may live in Photoshop. Is that what you meant?
Good news/Bad news (Score:5, Funny)
Bad news: Ink cartriges are one miiiiiiiilllllon dollars! (Austin Powers voice).
Re:Good news/Bad news (Score:2)
Seems a bit redundant (Score:2, Interesting)
The video shows girders neatly and precisely arranged in preparation for the construction. The labor involved in lugging these onsite and then ordering them fussily along the ground, in addition to the laying of tracks for the giant house-plotter, would seem to be better spent actually building a real house instead of one made out of the semi-liquid gak that Hordak poured onto He-Man.
Re:Seems a bit redundant (Score:2)
Also, I think the device (that the article speaks of) is marvelous but there are many other issues like it probably ushering in the end of the last well-paying joe jobs left in the US. after the construction industry is mostly gone due to this machine's more adept descendents, what then? federally mandated burger-flipper jobs...er, crap, robots will be doing that...federa
McHouse (Score:5, Insightful)
Personally, I'd rather have my house built by 100 Amish carpenters over the course of one year.
I may be a Luddite, in this respect, but I'm also a big believer in TLC.
- jbum
Re:McHouse (Score:2)
Re:McHouse (Score:2)
Personally, I'd rather have my house built by 100 Amish carpenters over the course of one year.
Well, me too! That would seriously kick ass, but where are you going to find Amish carpenters to come out and build things for us outsiders?
On the other hand, I'd rather have a letter-perfect, robot-extruded, concrete house than a leaky, sagging, stick-framed wonder built by the developers around were I live.
This isn't new! (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.ebtx.com/mech/mech05.htm [ebtx.com]
True, this guy didn't actually have the materials in mind, but we ought to give him credit for coming up with it first.
Curved contours impossible? (Score:5, Interesting)
Curved walls are nowhere near impossible. And placing windows in them is nowhere near impossible either. Furniture and home decoration obviously also has to be bought to fit or placed properly in rooms (i.e. no six foot long paintings hung on a curved wall).
Strange contours have been tried before... (Score:5, Interesting)
If you want to see some beautiful uses of curves and non-right-angles in architecture, check out the Walt Disney Concert Hall [musiccenter.org] in LA. It is truly beautiful, and the kind of thing which could not possibly have been built even 15 years ago because the computer modeling technology wasn't there. But that is a place you go to spend a few hours once a month, not to live there, and it was built with plenty of open space around it, not packed in like a house.
But I think this house-creating technology is cool and I'm sure it will find uses in more spread-out areas where there is room to be creative.
The logical next step is P2P architecture, right?
----------
Make a WAP site with WAP hosting [chiralsoftware.net]
Framing is a small part... (Score:4, Interesting)
I don't see much future for this until they can automate some of these functions.
Yes, but (Score:5, Interesting)
I think that once designers get a handle on what this machine can do that they will come up with ways to build houses that will seriously cut down on finish work and systems installation. What about cast in place air ducting, and cast in place conduits? Finish work would be a snap. Believe me, when you hire an experienced stucco crew you'd better be ready for them because you go to lunch and they'll have the job done before you get back. That stuff can be done a lot faster than the vapor barrier-rigid insulation, siding, paint system.
And as far as insulation goes, what' stopping them from extruding that also? Air entrained concrete with those little expanded poly beads is great insulation! If you want to go farther, it wouldn't be hard to cast in little notches to hang interior sheating and then pump insulation behind that.
I spent a summer with a fist full of rebar ties in one hand and a tool in the other, and it wasn't a lot of fun. If you can trade a lot of little hand labor, for a couple of days of guys with heavy equipment, it might be worth it. Who knows.
One thing's for sure, building houses this way isn't going to be done by ma & pop construction outfits.
My experience with concrete is very small, but this could be big, if it isn't a scam and we can get the building codes people to buy it.
Great (Score:3, Funny)
Rapid prototyping (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Rapid prototyping (Score:2)
I've seen them too, and with reference to some of the other posts on this subject questionning the level of detail for windows and contours etc., let me add that the detail from these machines is outstanding, if the extrusion nozzle(s) for the house building system can come close there is really nothing that it couldn't put in, even if it were to be the grooves and fittings for other materials to be added once the main structure has been build
Slashdotted... (Score:3, Funny)
Dubious Value (Score:4, Interesting)
I already have a model... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I already have a model... (Score:4, Funny)
Screw that. I want to feed some M.C. Escher code into it.
Either I get a Relatively [escher.us] sane place, or the robot turns itself inside out [escher.us] while trying to do the damned recursive stairs [escher.us]. But if the robot survives the traumatic experience, I can live in a really nice subdivision [escher.us].
M.C. Escher + Robots. Because a man's home [escher.us] is his castle [escher.us]...
(Cue the chameleon breaking down into tears at the sight of a piece of plaid (or a mirror!) screaming "I can't do it! I can't do it! I just can't do it!")
Interesting idea... for extrusions (Score:3, Insightful)
It's actually very close to building with stone, only you use a liquid instead.
Re:Interesting idea... for extrusions (Score:2, Interesting)
(speaking as one whose working day involves lots of concrete) It may not happen this year, or the next five, but this is where concrete is likely to be headed in the next 20 years.
Great news for undeveloped countries (Score:3, Interesting)
Lug this giant pooper into a destitute region of SA or China, and lay down inexpensive shelter for an entire town. Encourage corporate sponsorship - no joke - I'm sure Pepsi wouldn't mind putting up some cash for this process, if each house built had a big pepsi logo carved into it.
Of course, people destitute enough to live in a soft-serve house probably aren't too embroiled in the cola wars. Ebola wars, maybe.
A real use would be pool walls (Score:4, Interesting)
Curved walls may well look pretty, but are a nuisance to work around if you are trying to fit beds, couches, tables against them. One of the bonuses of straight walls iwth square corners.
Build me a house 3 times cheaper and I'm in (Score:2)
Who will buy it? (Score:2)
Sounds like a big version of a 3D printer (Score:2)
The beauty of arbitrary construction is now I can have my dream home! [worldofescher.com]
A Different Use (Score:2, Interesting)
Foam Houses (Score:2, Interesting)
Reminds me of this place. [roadsideamerica.com]
I remember 20+ years ago touring a house constructed from a durable, high-strength foam. It was located in Gatlinburg, TN and was called "Xanadu - House of the Future". I recall that it was constructed by inflating large, plastic dome-like balloons and then spraying those balloons with the hardening foam. Builders then subsequently went in with saws and simply chopped out wherever they wanted a doorway, hall, or secret passageway to be. I remember being totally blown away when,
Not Just Houses (Score:3, Insightful)
The moving extruder enables you to build items bigger than the tank of goo that previous laser powered rapid prototyping setups used.
The trowels let you produce a smooth finished item. Other systems result in a stack of disks (cross sections). To minimize the stack of disks surface, you make the cross sections very very thin but this means there are thousands of cross sections and it takes a long time. With the trowels you can spit out thick tubes and smooth it out later.
Other than houses they say you can build boats (not from adobe, duh, from plastic). Think of other smooth shells.
When this thing goes off patent in 20 years, I can see people setting up a robot in some big commercial garage building. You create a CAD design at home and bring it down to the garage. They extrude out an item and you bring it home. You can trade designs on the internet. Someone should start an Open Source design program now to be ready with a standard file format.
list things that would be easy to make.
Anything big hollow and plastic, ceramic or metal:
Plastic child's wading pool for the back yard.
Kids play set.
Kayaks, Canoes, snow sleds.
Garbage cans.
Patio Furniture
Frisbees
Hoola-hoops
Custom computer case mods could get really crazy.
Dishes or cookware?
Think of your own. It's fun.
Concrete Domes (Score:2)
Now I need another euphemism for pooping! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Because were running short (Score:2)
Re:Wilbur (Score:3)
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Great Idea - However it was Developed in 1960's (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.flyingmoose.org/truthfic/edison.htm