Google Updates Its Face 548
whereiseljefe writes "About 12:00 am Central Time, at least when I saw it, Google changed it's face. Before it was a simplistic search engine, with a minimal front page, and now has become even more so. Those pretty tabs we have become accustomed to are now gone, and in the search results, the "summary" section at the top is now a faded blue bar (see here with a search returning ads). And the ads are a little more low key. Nice to know they are cutting back on their interface rather than adding spastically like Yahoo." Other folks noted that they've added Froogle and Local Directory pages have now been given links on the front page. Which is good, since inclusion in the main page tends to mean ready for prime time.
About Face! (Score:3, Insightful)
I would also point out, being a programmer myself, that reducing the bandwidth in each search is a positive goal for Google in cost reduction, and a positive side-effect to the reduction, is a much faster searching experience. Every bit counts when you have the traffic Google does.
Put them together and you have a winning team, with a winning service, and profit will ensue.
Sorry for sounding like a fan-boy, but I just can't say anything bad about Google, except maybe that the name Google is becoming annoying/overused [slashdot.org], much like the over-play curse afforded to successful musicians.
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Interesting)
But look at the poll results: Google only got 3%. I don't think it's overused in a bad way; I think it's overused because you'd be foolish to use anything else!
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Interesting)
What I find most ironic is that this is one of the rare occasions when I knew before the article appeared on Slashdot!
In fact, that would suggest that Google is one of the few sites that I visit more often that Slashdot!
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Insightful)
What I like best about Google is that they realize that taking care of their end-users is the best way to satisfy their financial backers.
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Insightful)
Google lock in their users by providing a good service. Bunch of hippies
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Insightful)
- People who use the searching tools for free
- Advertisers who want targets ads
- Affiliates that carry the ads
It's a totally amazing business model that no one else has quite gotten right. I don't regret a dime we have spent with Google and their services as we have seen it returned to us 100-fold.
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:About Face! (Score:5, Interesting)
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They are even cleaner! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:About Face! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Informative)
See this thread [webmasterworld.com] at WebMasterWorld - the Google rep is called GoogleGuy.
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Funny)
Good bye google =(
Re:About Face! (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe Google is using 33-bit integers? Ever think of that, huh?
Revolution (Score:5, Interesting)
I can. Many people look at Google as an authoritative source. Hence, the gripes you hear about businesses who are made or broken by their Google search result rankings. Now we have Froogle. The danger is worsened even more if people view Froogle as authoritative. Last week I was searching for non-U.S. made baby strollers. I found strollers using normal Google that I couldn't find in Froogle. The only thing I trust Froogle for is to view quick thumbnails of products. For most of my product searches I must rely on complex queries to bypass the senseless froth I see rising to Google's surface more and more these days.
My one wish for Google is for it to face stiff competition. I look forward to anyone who can topple Google with a better engine.
Froogle is getting a lot better (Score:5, Interesting)
Despite how much I hate advertising, when I actually *want* to see adverts about a product, it is hard to find.
Meanwhile... (Score:5, Interesting)
The same godawful color schemes, ugly nexted tables, awful HTML code, etc.
Maybe slashdot should take a cue from google and update themselves.
Re:Meanwhile... (Score:4, Funny)
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However, on the tables and HTML code side, you're quite right.
Re:Meanwhile... (Score:3, Informative)
But gave me a thought. Why not use the text only interface, shove some CSS over it, and make the page look like the bloated HTML code version. Thus, you could make
NeoThermic
Re:Meanwhile... (Score:5, Interesting)
It's been done [alistapart.com]
I don't know why it hasn't been implemented yet. I wonder if the /. crew is working on it.
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Good! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Good! (Score:5, Funny)
It's always a good time to reformat Windows.
Re:Good! (Score:4, Informative)
Very minimalist (Score:5, Insightful)
Puhhh (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Puhhh (Score:5, Funny)
You know you've been at the pr0n too much when your think what I was just thinkings.
The worst was when my fiance went to the spa, came back, ans said "I had a great facial. My face smells great!".
Did a double-take on that one...
New google fizzles (Score:4, Funny)
Look, this is 2004, and "understated" is synonymous with "loser". If you want to put the mazuma in da bank, baby, you gotta POP, SIZZLE!
And I know what I'm talking about - I'm a marketing exec in a Fortune 500.
Re:New google fizzles (Score:3, Insightful)
Like Poochie The Talking dog.
And you know how successful he was.
Sorry that was the first thing that came in my mind. That and the Danimals Commercial where they introduced a new character of a Crocodile with sun glasses, which we never have seen from since.
In seriousness the stuff has a wow factor which makes you use the page 2 or 3 times until the wow ends off and you go back to work using google because it go
Re:New google fizzles (Score:4, Informative)
Re:New google fizzles (Score:4, Interesting)
- Search for Gnome [google.com]
- Search for KDE [google.com]
- Search for Enlightenment [google.com]
- Search for Linux Kernel [google.com] has a link from inside kernel.org as the 4th result!
Not one returns the actual home page of these projects! Yikes.
high key ads (Score:5, Interesting)
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I like it. (Score:5, Interesting)
I particularly like the idea of seperating "Froogle", I hope in the long term this will bias commercial support away from the generic pages. When I want to know about Hawaii "per se" I am just not interest in tour operators and hotels!
Definition (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Definition (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Definition (Score:4, Informative)
And if you search for define:something (like define:taoism), Google will gather definitions of that term from pages around the web. Handy if you are looking for a quick overview of what a term means in actual use, rather than in the dictionary.
Google Web Alerts (Score:5, Informative)
Fatal Error (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Fatal Error (Score:5, Interesting)
I wonder if they skipped the doctype tag because it's relatively pointless for this level of basic HTML, and wasn't worth the bandwith demands to include it.
Re:Fatal Error (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess it doesn't pay to write "proper" (X)HTML.
It does, but I guess Google are in the very exclusive club of "big enough to warrant all major browsers ensuring that they work with that website".
I wonder if they skipped the doctype tag because it's relatively pointless for this level of basic HTML
The doctype declaration (it's not a tag) indicates that the document conforms to a certain specification. Google not complying with any known HTML specification, it's arguably the correct thing to do to leave it off. Leaving it off means that browsers go into "quirks mode", whereby they deviate from the HTML and CSS specifications in an attempt to work around author mistakes.
and wasn't worth the bandwith demands to include it.
If Google were worried about bandwidth, they'd get rid of cruft like bgcolor=#ffffff and move the CSS into an external stylesheet. Assuming they employ front-end coders that know what they are doing of course (just because they are clueful on the back-end, it doesn't mean they are clueful on the front-end).
Re:Fatal Error (Score:5, Insightful)
It may be that using the extra bandwidth is faster or more efficient than the extra http request for the external stylesheet.
Re:Fatal Error (Score:5, Informative)
It may be that using the extra bandwidth is faster or more efficient than the extra http request for the external stylesheet.
That's extremely doubtful. In almost all cases, the stylesheet will not come from Google's servers. They are a popular website and the stylesheet rarely changes, so the chances of it being in somebody's browser cache are high, the chances of it being in their ISP's cache is high, the chance of it being in neither is extremely low.
Re:Fatal Error (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't like it (Score:5, Interesting)
All they did was change the layout.
With the old layout I could navigate the page blindfolded.
I had mouse movements down pat.
The tabs being close to the first search result was handy.
Now you have to navigate to the very top, center of the page.
I've never seen a reason to change an interface, just to change it.
Re:I don't like it (Score:4, Insightful)
Doing a quick test search, I've noticed that it's so much more responsive. They did tweake the interface, but they also optimized download time. Think of how many searches are done every minute. Even a small size reduction can quickly add up!
Re:I don't like it (Score:3, Interesting)
I think taking away the pretty tabs was a step backwards, but it's nice to see that they've made the site easier to navigate.
It wasn't broken, why fix it (Score:5, Interesting)
Now that MS and Yahoo are picking up the pace and investing heavily against Google to outcompete it, is this really the time to change Google's look? Search functionality may be all that matters to a geek, but Google is mainstream now and has to worry about mainstream concerns, like "Branding". Google's old look was part of the Google "brand".
I may come off like Chicken Little given that this is such a small thing to be concerned about, but sometimes in the face of heavy competition the smallest things can turn the tide. I've seen it happen.
Don't be concerned until... (Score:4, Insightful)
I predict you'll see them charging for more inclusive searches and trying to gouge their advertisers for more revenue.
Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm not right, but there's a long track record of others who have gone this way before. Google is smart, investors aren't.
time will tell... (Score:3, Interesting)
Anyways time will tell how this goes... On the flip side this is one site that can handle the
That has been around.. (Score:5, Informative)
I want my old google back (Score:5, Interesting)
For instance, Google groups search result pages looks like they are formatted for a 800x600 resolution screen. Viewing it at a higher resolution forces a large white space between the search listings and the ads. I would have much prefered for the results to take up this space, fitting more results on the page at a time. If the group name is long, then the "View Thread" becomes unnatural looking wrapped between two lines. (example [google.com])
Maybe it's just new, but hopefully it'll grow on me.
Its about usability (Score:5, Insightful)
Wrong page brother. (Score:4, Informative)
You're thinking of Yahoo! the web portal. Yahoo!'s search engine page [yahoo.com] looks pretty plain to me. They haven't added anything to it.
Mirror (Score:5, Funny)
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updated adsense as well (Score:5, Informative)
P.S. Google Adsense is Ad banner engine, using which you can add Ads on your website and generate some ca$h
Different versions of Google (Score:5, Informative)
I find it interesting to see the slight variations of Google...geeky although it might seem - when I type http://www.google.com/ [google.com] I am thrown to http://www.google.be/ [google.be], so when I really want http://www.google.com/ [google.com] I type http://www.google.com./ [www.google.com] instead of using the "Go to Google.com" button (which sends me to the google.com page with a "Go to Google Belgium" button.
The definitive address with the dot at the end introduces itself as Google English in the graphic, but still has a "Go to Google.com" button, whilst clearly being the genuine definitive http://www.google.com./ [www.google.com]...but this version doesn't have the link to Froogle [google.com]... :)
Phew - that's enough links to Google for one day!
-- Pete.
Lynx (Score:5, Informative)
Say what you want, I like it!
Google H4x0r (Score:5, Funny)
I don't like it (Score:3, Insightful)
(2) I don't want Froogle on every page. I don't go to Google to shop. It's okay in the "More".
Google begins to go the way of all search engines:
not a single one has not faded away yet. If this one isn't eventually replaced by another, it will be the first.
Details of pagerank system also revealed (Score:4, Funny)
Simple Can Be Better (Score:3, Insightful)
Other languages not supported yet (Score:3, Interesting)
I see the translation teams have some work to do...
Uh, no... (Score:4, Insightful)
The front page will take a bit getting used to (now w/o the tabs) (see: Google cache of Google [64.233.167.104]). OK, so it's really not that big a deal, we'll get used to the new version where the "tab" links are more squished together (note to Google: there's all that whitespace between the links waiting to be liberated!).
The real kicker is the new search results pages. Instead of utilizing most of the page as before for the actual results, and using B/W text for explanations, now they are highlighted by this ugly MSN/Yahoo-like pale-blue/green combo, which, (*GASP*) looks oh-so-similar to the text ads that are taking almost 1/3 of the page on the right. (see example: new search page [google.com].)
Well, I guess I'm not in the position to criticize a free, powerful service. But I guess if they are going to keep it free, they might as well try to keep the user experience as nice as possible. I'll still be using Google just as much as before, but I guess I'll be nostalgically longing for the good ol' days^H^H^H^H, uh, I mean 6 hours ago.- Alpha out.
They've improved the search as well!!!!! (Score:4, Funny)
miserable failure
Now hit the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.
Gotta love google.
Linux Searches? (Score:3, Informative)
Definitely going to bookmark that one...Google has saved my butt many-a-time during while learning Linux (but I've had to wade through a lot of irrelvant search results to get to what I needed).
Fake hits (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Fake hits (Score:3, Informative)
Then do your part and Report a Spam Result [google.com].
Good step forward (Score:5, Funny)
But Google not only presents these "submission" buttons, but a range of categories to manifest my self doubt. Images: Is there something wrong with my own self image? Groups: Am I accepted as a member of a group. News: Does anything interesting or newsworthey ever happen in my life? Froogle: Am I managing my finances appropriately, or will I squander my fate through illiteracy or bad spelling? More>>: Is there something missing in my hollow pointless life...do I need something more to fill the void?
And as a last kick in the teeth, Google must remind me at the bottom that the page is copyrighted, and that it is "Searching 4,285,199,774 web pages", as if to say "you are not good enough to receive this page".
So, please stop the user interface terrorism Google!
directories (Score:3, Informative)
Anyone else notice the tracking? (Score:5, Interesting)
I saved a copy of the page at the following URL: http://www.phrise.com/google.html [phrise.com] (I added <base href=http://www.google.com/> at the top.)
If you're seeing the same thing, please reply...
Re:Not new! (Score:5, Interesting)
P.S. I am now seeing at work when I look with IE but not with Opera.
Not only looks -- directory search missing :-( (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=xx-bork&q=java [google.com] and compare it with the new google interface:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=java [google.com]
I think this is a sad loss of functionality. The link to directory categories served two purposes for me: First, it was some kind of extra "quality" check -- if a web site was listed in the directory, it was more likely to be the site I was looking for. Second, it informed me in a non-intrusive way that a directory category existed that'd probably help me in my search.
And to add insult to injury, Google has removed the simple link to Directory from the "tabs", so you have to first click "More>>" to find the Directory search, making it even hard to use it. I wonder if this is the first step in stopping to support the dmoz directory?
They've been testing this publicly for a while. (Score:4, Informative)
Google Personalized Search (Score:4, Informative)
This is a sad day for the Internet: Google has truely shot itself in the foot. Where are the big banner ads? the pop-ups? Where are the unrelated search results, obfuscated by even more unrelated "sponsored" search "results"? And why is it useful? It's the sad truth, but alas Google is living in the past, instead of looking to the future. (- Insert obligotary "BSD is dead" parody here -)
Seriously though, wandering around on ZDNet [zdnet.com], I found that Google has launched a personalized search engine [google.com]. I tried it out, and I'll tell you what -- it kicks major ass. Let's say you are trying to look up information for a particular or specialized search term on the traditional Google, it may give you some random unrelated results, those of another domain you wish to consult about; on Google Personalized Search, you specify which domain you want to search about and it will provide you with more pertinent results. Kudos to Google, once again.
Google v. Yahoo (Score:5, Funny)
Slashdotting the zeitgeist? (Score:4, Funny)
But not me.
Re:Generally so, but not for /, (Score:4, Interesting)
Google isn't valid HTML either [w3.org]. And they still use an embedded style element rather than a highly-cachable external stylesheet, and still use crap like <body bgcolor=#ffffff...
Re:Generally so, but not for /, (Score:4, Interesting)
HTML is broken [attrition.org], not google.
LaTeX - it's not just for bootie calls
Re:Why are they trying to look like Yahoo!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This is news? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:In firefox... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I saw (Score:3, Informative)
Re:/. could learn from this (Score:3, Informative)
It more lean and clean that way and load a lot faster that the ugly default look.
Re:Slashdotted... (Score:4, Funny)
Important: Note that google is not affiliated with the authors of google.com or responsible for its content.
--
Wanna play some word games [ernet.in]?
Re:Slashdotted... (Score:5, Interesting)
More interesting is the wayback machine's caches [archive.org] of Google:
Re:Slashdotted... (Score:4, Funny)
These are both 300 MHz Dual Pentium II Servers with 512MB of RAM. There are 9 9G drives between the two machines. The main search used to run on them. These were donated by Intel.
Re:Before-After comparison somewhere?? (Score:5, Informative)
Before [google.com] link,
After [google.com] link.