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Less is More: Thunderbird 0.7 Review 227

Posted by michael from the did-someone-say-thundercats? dept.
comforteagle writes "In part two of our look at Mozilla's less is more approach to thunderbird and firebird, Gareth Russell has finished the examination with a look at the newly released Thunderbird 0.7. Part one dealt with firefox and was discussed here on slashdot as well."
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Less is More: Thunderbird 0.7 Review

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  • Had to go back to 0.6 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by AGTiny ( 104967 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:52PM (#9464902)
    I had to go back to 0.6 because of several crippling bugs. 0.7 stopped checking for mail in many of my IMAP folders so I went a whole day thinking I had no mail. :( It also has an annoying habit of not displaying the message body in random messages forcing you to go out to SquirrelMail to view them. 0.6 works perfectly for me though!

    • Re:Had to go back to 0.6 (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Did you report those bugs?

    • I went a whole day thinking I had no mail. (Score:5, Funny)

      by dark-br ( 473115 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:55PM (#9464944) Homepage
      Oh *that* would be a dream! ;)

    • Re:Had to go back to 0.6 (Score:5, Informative)

      by Gr8Apes ( 679165 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:01PM (#9465031)
      I've had this problem with multiple POP3 mailboxes, in 0.5 and Mozilla 1,7rc2 and 1.8a1. Mozilla 1.6 seems to work fine. It seems that shutting down the mail window and restarting the app solves the problem with Mozilla 1.8a1, but I believe Thunderbird 0.5 just couldn't read one of the new messages in one of the mboxes, and that was that. Really strange, it'd read the rest.

      No, I have not yet reported this, as I don't have a clue how to reproduce it.
      • It has been reported already, although I don't have the bugzilla # nearby. I had the same problem. Strangely, 0.5 did work, but 0.6 didn't. Installed 0.5 on my laptop and upgraded to 0.7 and it worked. Installed 0.7 over my 0.5 install on my desktop and it still hangs. Head-scratchingly aggrevating.

        Shawn
    • Me too... after I moved the old installation to a backup directory and went to install 0.7 to a new directory, I noticed the installer wouldn't even let you create a new folder! I had to make one myself and then pick that in the installer. After it installed, it locked up on starting. I couldn't even ctrl+alt+delete it to kill it, and it was using 100% cpu, and had to hard reset to kill it so I could uninstall it.
    • (Replying instead of modding...hit this wall before and HTH)

      0.6, IMO, pales in comparison to .4 and .5 when it comes to stability.

      I leave my work machine on all the time to filter mail, so sync support was awesome, but .6 just seemed to go into la-la land after 2 days, where .5 would be fine for 2+ weeks w/o incident.

      Oh, and a bit of info for those having problems with missing messages and "upgrade blues" or general wierdness:
      in your profile, find and move/delete all the .msf files (index files of mailbo

  • What about the lawsuit? (Score:4, Funny)

    by Bingo Foo ( 179380 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:54PM (#9464932)
    I thought Ford Motor Co. was making them change the name to "ThunderFox."

  • I already had a crash (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ka55ad ( 571279 )
    I love the new version - the interface seems 'clearner almost'. Also I like the extensions option in the menu that will bring up a page full of extensions that you can download. I did have one crash with it though. I had 2 windows open, and mulitple tabs in each window. All of a sudden it just puked on me .... oh well - it still kicks ass.

  • someone has to say this.. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:54PM (#9464939)
    Thunderbirds are go?

  • Few teething problems, but good overall (Score:4, Informative)

    by XeRXeS-TCN ( 788834 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:54PM (#9464942)

    I've been using both Firefox (since 0.7) and Thunderbird (since 0.4) for a while now, and I've recently upgraded. I seem to have hit a bit of a bug with having too many FireFox extensions installed, but beyond that slight problem, FireFox and Thunderbird seem to be going from strength to strength these days.

    Anyone who is still on OE or IE should seriously consider a switch, because they include things which you should really have by default in your software. Firefox has tabbed browsing and integrated popup blocking, and Thunderbird has built in encryption, supports PGP extensions, and has integrated "smart" spam filtering.

    What more could you ask?

  • Multiple IMAP (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ajakk ( 29927 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:57PM (#9464974) Homepage
    I was trying to get a setup going with T-bird under Windows checking multiple IMAP servers at once and it was having a very hard time doing it. I could never get it work well at all. Does anyone know if the newer versions of T-bird have fixed that problem?

    • Re:Multiple IMAP (Score:3, Informative)

      by otisg ( 92803 )
      It works well for me.
      What is more, and this may be good to point out to other Thunderbird users, this release finally fixed a bug with accessing IMAP over SSL. Before, Thunderbird would start to hang after a few (e.g. 10-ish) minutes of inactivity, and the only solution would be to quit and re-start. This version fixed that issued.

      Another issue (with all previous releases - I used them all) was with saving outgoing mail to the 'Sent' folder. It worked only half the time or less. This version sends emai

  • getting real slow (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18, 2004 @01:59PM (#9464996)
    It took a long time to load, so here is a mirror:

    by Gareth Russell

    Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 is the new lightweight email and newsgroup client from the Mozilla Foundation; it's a new take on the email client and has been built almost from the ground up, with the proven Gecko rendering engine. As with Mozilla Firefox its main aim is to try and satisfy the average user's requirements, with a minimum amount of fuss. Email clients over the years have tended to suffer from "feature creep" and "bloat", Thunderbird removes the clutter such as Intstant Messaging integration which you may never use. Thunderbird has all of the basic features you'd expect to find in any email client, with IMAP and Pop3 support, email filters and the ability to manage multiple accounts. Thunderbird also contains many other non-standard features such as built in junk mail filtering, S/MIME, digital signing, message encryption, spell checking and a flexible user interface. On top of this, Thunderbird is possibly the most extendible browser available with its excellent extension system, allowing you to create an email client that suits you.

    Thunderbird 0.7's changes, include: a smaller download size for Windows, speed improvements in Windows, Linux and Mac OS X, new themes and extensions managers, as well as a talkback program for the unlikely event that Thunderbird crashes. A number of bugs have been squashed for the release, helping to iron out any rough edges which existed in the previous editions. The most important change in 0.7 is the overhaul of the extension system with new extensions controls allowing for easier management of extensions and which, now make it possible to update your extensions to the latest versions without having to go and manually download them.

    The Interface
    As with Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird features a stripped down interface, which is more thought out than previous editions of Mozilla Messenger. The default graphical interface features a three-pane setup much like Microsoft Outlook Express or the original Mozilla Messenger. On top of this; however, Thunderbird provides three other default settings including an interesting three pane vertical arrangement, which manages to use more of the display area to display your emails than the standard setting. Most importantly though, Thunderbird does not try to restrain you by its interface and its easy to customise the layout by adding new buttons to the toolbars or to add new window panes for content to get it exactly how you want it.

    Junk Mail
    One of the most attractive features of Thunderbird is the advanced Junk Mail filters included my default in Mozilla Thunderbird. The Junk Mail is adaptive by using a system of Bayesian filtering, this learns what is junk mail and what is not by you indicating to Thunderbird whether it is or is not junk. Junk can be defined by simply checking a junk mail icon next to the subject of the email. When a similar email appears in your inbox, Thunderbird will indicate that it believes the message is junk with the option to correct it if it is wrong. It's surprising how short a period of time it takes, before Thunderbird catches all of your junk mail with no mistakes. It only took a couple of days, before my inbox was junk mail free, with only a couple of false positives. Thunderbird can also be told to move the junk immediately to a temporary folder or to delete it straight off. This really sets it apart from programs such as Outlook Express which don't have built in junk mail controls, as you'll no longer to be forced to wade through a load of junk mail just to read you emails. No more time wasted moving all those offensive pornography emails which you receive to your work email address, no more time wasted deleting those university diploma emails and in particular no more being caught out by those emails with the viruses attached. Thunderbird really is revolutionary as an email client, when it comes to dealing with junk mail.

    Security
    Thunderbird includes S/MINE email support, which is a

  • Won't start. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by sporty ( 27564 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:02PM (#9465039) Homepage
    I downloaded it twice on two different days for the Mac. It mounts the dmg file fine, but won't launch. In the console for OSX, you see complaints about the executable being corrupt or truncated, then just dies out. Happens on two seperate machines too. Nightly builds don't do it either :\
    • I installed it yesterday on a Mac OS X 10.3.4 with no problem. Copied the app off the mounted dmg and then double clicked it, and there it was. Played with it for about 30 seconds before returning to Eudora which kicks its ass as far as I'm concerned. I love the mozilla browsers; use Camino constantly, but for email Eudora is where it's at.

  • well (Score:2, Insightful)

    by no-arg constructor ( 775215 )
    this is all good and i certainly use firefox at home, but while there will be many posts praising tabbed browsing, extensions, etc, sadly, i think we'll be preaching to the choir more than anything else. most p eople who even know firefox exists probably have tried it and like it, the other 95% will still be on ie. maybe i'm pessimistic, but i just don't see a massive migration happening just through word of mouth.

  • One wish.. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by boomgopher ( 627124 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:02PM (#9465050) Journal
    Is that the stupid address autocollect feature would lowercase everything before checking if the cotact exists.

    I'm tired of having multiple:

    Fred.Mertz@Lucy.Com
    Fred.Mertz@lucy.com
    fred.mertz@lucy.com
    etc...

    • Re:One wish.. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:10PM (#9465136)
      Hi, I'm Fred Mertz, please stop emailing me. You've already killed lucy.com, and charliebrown.com is mad, there isnt anyone there to pull the football out from infront of the webserver. Thank you.

      Fred.mertz@lucy.com

    • Re:One wish.. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Bingo Foo ( 179380 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:13PM (#9465159)
      fred.mertz@lucy.com?

      I imagine Ricky is getting more fed up with it than you are. Someone has some 'splaining to do.

    • Re:One wish.. (Score:3, Insightful)

      by boomgopher ( 627124 )
      Oh and, before anyone fusses, I've grabbed source and looked into making the change myself, but frankly I couldn't even figure out how to even build the darn thing.
      The build is not exactly staightforward, IMO.

    • One thing I wish is that the spam detection would detect illegal tags and flag messages with too many of them as spam. Anything inside angle brackets isn't shown to the user but they are thrown every three letters in so that it screws with the filters.

      It's kind of frustrating that Thunderbird doesn't offer any flexibility in its spam detector.

  • The only problem I have... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:06PM (#9465094)
    is that the icon on Mac OS X looks like an envelope with a bad toupe. If that is supposed to be a bird, please make it look like a bird and not a very bad comb over.

  • I am very concerned (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Tarantolato ( 760537 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:15PM (#9465175) Journal
    ...about the official Mozilla project's continued split focus between Firefox/Thunderbird and the full Seamonkey suite, which is now apparently going to continue even after the standalones reach 1.0.

    Mozilla's crucial mistake early on was deciding it needed to be a platform. If this had just meant developing a cross-platform gui and tools, or just developing a whole application suite, it might not have been a problem. But they decided to do both. It cost them, and it continues to cost them.

    IBM's Eclipse project is a good example of how to do a platform. Start small with one app: in Eclipse's case, an IDE. Then build the rest of the stuff around the skeleton: IBM's new Workplace package is basically built from Eclipse plugins.

    But continuing to devote resources to Seamonkey is just a bad idea. Not only is it a distraction from making the small, focused apps better; but keeping around Mozilla as an Emacs-style do-everything suite does IMHO damage to the brand name. I for one have nothing but bad memories of Netscape, because of the ungodly bloat of Communicator. Any project that continues to officially perpetuate that mistake loses respect in my mind, and I would guess in many others' as well.

    • Re:I am very concerned (Score:5, Informative)

      by jsebrech ( 525647 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @03:24PM (#9465919)
      Mozilla's crucial mistake early on was deciding it needed to be a platform. If this had just meant developing a cross-platform gui and tools, or just developing a whole application suite, it might not have been a problem. But they decided to do both. It cost them, and it continues to cost them.

      That mozilla IS a platform is the very reason that development on firefox and thunderbird went this fast. Firefox and thunderbird share all of their backend code with the full suite. Only the actual UI is not shared. That kind of freedom allows quickly creating entirely new applications on top of the mozilla framework. It also means that development on the backend benefits all mozilla project apps.

      I'd like you to show quotes from an actual mozilla developer (and not one who quit before mozilla really got going, like jwz) who agrees with your point of view. Creating the platform is what saved the mozilla project.

      Besides, the only way to compete effectively with microsoft is to offer an alternative vision to developers. The platform is key in that. Mozilla, without becoming a platform, would be like opera: forever irrelevant.

      But continuing to devote resources to Seamonkey is just a bad idea. Not only is it a distraction from making the small, focused apps better; but keeping around Mozilla as an Emacs-style do-everything suite does IMHO damage to the brand name.

      The seamonkey suite is not a distraction, because like I explained, most of the code is shared among all the mozilla projects. The only thing the suite has for itself is the UI, and that is only getting maintenance development. It's really not true that firefox and thunderbird compete for developer resources with the app suite.

      Now, I will agree that it does some damage to the brand to have so many products. But on the other hand, the suite still has a lot of users who find things of use in there they don't find in the separate apps. Cutting them off would not be nice, and would make corporate users less likely to ever use a mozilla product again.
    • Every time there's a Mozilla story on Slashdot, several people make this comment and they all get modded up to +5. SeaMonkey (the suite) receives a very small amount of the official "Mozilla Foundation" support. It's essentially in maintenance mode, with only relatively minor work being done to it. Now *Gecko*, and the Mozilla-as-platform work, are still actively maintained, but that's not the same as working on SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey happens to benefit from work on Gecko, since both it, Firefox and Thunderbi
  • Not Less is More.

    Less is Less, More is More.

    Provide more features, but make them easy to use, with useful defaulted options. Sukka.

  • It still has the problem where it complains, with a popup dialog box, that a folder cannot contain mail when you click on a folder than cannot contain mail.

    This is all well and good, but when you have it set to check all your folders for mail and this message pops up several hundred times every 5 minutes it gets very old, very fast.

    They need a way to toggle this warning on and off.

  • Calling International Rescue! (Score:4, Funny)

    by HBPiper ( 472715 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:39PM (#9465443)
    Thunderbird 1 was always my favorite. Official Site [thunderbirdsonline.com]

  • YahooPOPs Broke, GF doesnt like Thunderbird now :( (Score:3, Interesting)

    by aardwolf204 ( 630780 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:41PM (#9465467)
    Now if only YahooPOPs [sourceforge.net] could update their project to be compatible with Yahoo Mail I would be using Thunderbird again.

    I just recently rebuilt my g/f's computer, removing IE, MSN, etc, and installing OO.o, Firefox, and the like. (Thank you the open cd [sunsite.dk] ) She liked how fast her computer was now that the spyware was gone, but she could NOT stand how Firefox rendered the fonts on the Yahoo Mail page "incorrectly" (dear God! What will I do now!). Thankfully I ran across this nifty little project on source forge called Yahoo Pops which acts as a SMTP/POP3 server on localhost and bridges the gap between your favoriate email client and the Yahoo Webmail service. That evening I VNC'd into her computer, installed YahooPOPs and Thunderbird 0.6 and hooked her up with a cute theme with a rotating penguin in the top right (She's all about some Tux racer). I showed her how to use it and she loved it. No more ads, no more waiting for the web pages to load, spell checking, the whole 9!

    But just when I thought I had sold her on the wonderfullness that is Open Source (I'm on my way to getting her to suse) Yahoo decided they are going to try to compete with G-Mail and offer 100MB to their free customers, as well as a few other minor "improvements". To make a long story short the upgrade broke YahooPOPs and thus Thunderbird. We were both very disapointed.

    Now she found a way to open IE by typing "iexplore" on the run line and is using Yahoo Mail again. Its going to be hard to get her to try open source again, but for some reason she cant keep off Tux Racer. (PS: Go neverball!).

    Any advice on ways to keep her using Thunderbird? Its really a great product and if my company wasnt tied religiously to MS Outbreak I would be putting it on every desktop in the place.

  • Thunderbird Wishlist (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JBMcB ( 73720 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:44PM (#9465503)
    1. Integration with GnuPG and/or PGP. Yes I know of engimail, I think it's essential enough it should be built-in.

    2. Integration with Jabber. IM + Email would be cool. I like how Windows Messenger does this, but with Thunderbird it would actually be secure :)

    3. Better LDAP integration. Current LDAP implementation is kludgy, I wish they would make it smoother.

    4. Fix the calendar app. It's nice, but could be a whole lot nicer. The original Netscape calendar app wasn't bad, I much prefer it over Outlook.

    5. Import/Export filters. There are third party filters already, it would be nice if they were built in. Import .mbox, maildirs, Outlook PST, Outlook Express directories, Eudora, MacOS Mail.app, etc...

    6. How about a text mode interface for uberhackers? It could be really lightweight, just ctrl- to go back and forth, ctrl-r to reply, etc...

    That's it. It shouldn't add too much bloat, the basic Jabber protocol is small and GnuPG integration should be cake. Any other ideas?

    • Re:Thunderbird Wishlist (Score:4, Interesting)

      by silicon not in the v ( 669585 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @03:56PM (#9466342) Journal
      1. Integration with GnuPG and/or PGP. Yes I know of engimail, I think it's essential enough it should be built-in.


      2. Integration with Jabber. IM + Email would be cool. I like how Windows Messenger does this, but with Thunderbird it would actually be secure :)
      I don't think either of those is that great an idea. The point of T-Bird is supposed to be about a slim program. GPG/PGP isn't used by the majority of people, so I sure don't think they need to put it in the main program. Doesn't having an easily accesible extention take care of the needs of people who want that? And people use several different IM applications, so I don't think they should be integrating any into an email program. A calendar I can see putting in to let this compete with Outlook in the email/calendar app space in businesses.

      You are reverting back to where we came from --> "I think besides email, it should be able to browse newsgroups. oh yeah, and an integrated IRC chat client...and maybe an HTML composer."
    • "6. How about a text mode interface for uberhackers? It could be really lightweight, just ctrl- to go back and forth, ctrl-r to reply, etc..."
      Wouldn't it be better to use/create a separate program if you want a text-mode interface. AFAIK, file format compatability with TB wouldn't be a problem. If you want lightweight you don't want a program with the bloat of a GUI interface that you don't use. And anyway, don't uberhackers use CLI email already?

    • Re:Thunderbird Wishlist (Score:2, Informative)

      by jeddak ( 12628 )
      Fix what calendar? Thunderbird doesn't have a calendar to fix....
    • I'd love to use Thunderbird instead of OE (for NG reading mainly, email is rather trivial for me), but a few things keep holding me back. Mainly, it's the whole message-threading model of TB that bothers me. Maybe I'm just use to Outlook Express, but I *really* like the ability to collapse sub-threads. If I'm reading an interesting NG topic, but this one sub-thread starts going *way* off-topic, in OE I can just click on the little collapse button that's on every message with children. With TB, only the

    • My biggest TB complaint is that invoking the spell checker takes WAY too long. On Windows, if I press F7 to spell check an email, TB freezes for 10-20 seconds. And the "no words misspelled" dialog looks too similar to the "here is a misspelled word" dialog. When I see one of these dialogs, I have to spend 5-10 seconds scrutinizing the dialog's small print to determine if I misspelled a word or if everything is OK. :(

  • Just moved from Mozilla 1.6; will have to revert (Score:4, Interesting)

    by toccoa ( 206164 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @02:46PM (#9465531)
    Hello, my name is Toccoa and I am a tab-aholoic. I greatly prefer the way groups of tabs are done in Mozilla; or at least based upon my current understanding of 0.9.

    E.g. with a group of tabs on the tab bar
    Mozilla: click on tab, all tabs open & start loading
    Firefox: you get dropdown; for maximum hassle, the choice I want(Open in tabs) is always at bottom. Nor have I found way to set "add tabs" versus "replace tabs" preference.

    If Mozilla did not exist, I would use Firefox. But for now, tabs mean I prefer Mozilla.
    • E.g. with a group of tabs on the tab bar Mozilla: click on tab, all tabs open & start loading Firefox: you get dropdown; for maximum hassle, the choice I want(Open in tabs) is always at bottom. Nor have I found way to set "add tabs" versus "replace tabs" preference.

      To get a group of bookmarked tabs to open in addition to your already opened tabs in Firefox, do the following:
      1) Open a new tab, type about:config, hit enter.
      2) Find the entry called browser.tabs.loadFolderAndReplace, and double click

  • Just this week... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ScoLgo ( 458010 ) <scolgo@gmaFREEBSDil.com minus bsd> on Friday June 18, 2004 @03:14PM (#9465804) Homepage
    ...I switched everyone at my work over to TBird from Outlook2k. Everyone likes it much better than Outlook. They all especially like the speed of mail download (something was going on with Outlook where it would sometimes take up to an hour to download mail from the POP server - especially on a Monday where the mail had stacked up all weekend). Very annoying when you're trying to get your day going. TBird grabs it all in a minute or two.

    One thing everyone especially likes is the multiple mail account handling. Having separate folders for each account is very cool and makes organizing messages very intuitive. The only thing we're missing is Outlooks ability to insert multiple 'signatures'. Anyone know if this is currently possible in TBird? Having blocks of pre-typed text ready to go at the click of your mouse is a real time-saver. One kludge we came up with is to keep a message in the Drafts folder that contains the needed text but that's a rather clumsy solution.

    We are a small company so this changeover is pretty insignificant in the overall scheme of things but... it's a start. With the warm reception TBird received from my users at work (they really were getting sick of Outlook), I figure they'll go install it on their home computers. Their wives and kids will see it and begin to use it. They'll tell their friends, etc., etc... Word of mouth is a GoodThing(TM).

    Personally, I've been using TBird since it was first released and have never had any problems with it. Maybe I'm just lucky but it's been rock-solid for me. I currently use TBird on WinNT4 at work and on my laptop, which runs Mandrake 9.2. My wife, (who is not in the least computer literate), has no trouble at all with TBird on her Win98 box. This open source app is ready for mass use!

  • Malicious site for Mozilla users (Score:3, Interesting)

    by tmk ( 712144 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @03:20PM (#9465872)
    The site http://xxxtoolbar.com/ tries to install a malicious program as XPI.

    Is this a proof of acceptance or is it an alarm signal?
  • Maybe I'm missing something very obvious, but after installing Firefox 0.9 and then Thunderbird 0.7, I *still* can't click on a URL in Thunderbird and have it open Firefox at the appropriate page. Why the hell not? Isn't this fairly basic functionality?

    It's ironic. The big problem with the all-in-one Mozilla suite, for me, was that it always tried to launch Mozilla Mail even though I had defined a different e-mail package as my system mailer. Now I have the opposite problem.

    (Using Linux, on the off chance

  • I'm waiting for Thunderfox (Score:3, Funny)

    by GodWasAnAlien ( 206300 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @03:51PM (#9466300)
    It's supposed to be much faster.
  • I am just wondering if Thunderbird is going to have a ripple effect.

  • Mozilla Sunbird (Score:4, Informative)

    by Master Of Ninja ( 521917 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @04:45PM (#9466886)
    Just to point out for people needing a calendar, there is the Sunbird [mozilla.org] project which aims to build a standalone PIM application. While it is fairly good at the moment, it still needs a lot of work. Plus it needs a few more developers. If you have the time go help out. If they ever get round to integrating Thunderbird and Sunbird, we'll have one kickass Outlook killing application!! (don't mention Evolution - it really isn't cross-platform as such).

  • 0.7 buggy ? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mbyte ( 65875 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @05:20PM (#9467355) Homepage
    I found that 0.7 is much more buggy than 0.5 ... at least on win32, the new mail notification in the taskbar is broken (no icon), enigmail does not work anymore, cross imap server moving of email did stop working ...

    At least for me a huge step backwards from 0.5 :(

    • Re:0.7 buggy ? (Score:4, Informative)

      by CritterNYC ( 190163 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @05:50PM (#9467665) Homepage
      I found that 0.7 is much more buggy than 0.5 ... at least on win32, the new mail notification in the taskbar is broken (no icon), enigmail does not work anymore, cross imap server moving of email did stop working ...

      At least for me a huge step backwards from 0.5 :(

      You need to do a completely fresh install of 0.7. Lots of stuff changed. The entire extension system is different, so you need to install the updated enigmail. Cross-IMAP server moves work fine (just did one). And the tray icon for mail notificatiions is sitting in my systray right now.

      The installation instructions [mozilla.org] should really be followed for the latest version!

  • LDAP addresses on junkmail whitelist (Score:3, Interesting)

    by billtom ( 126004 ) on Friday June 18, 2004 @05:29PM (#9467428)
    Does anyone know if you can get addresses in your LDAP server onto the junkmail whitelist?

    I mean the part in the junkmail configuration screen where you can say "don't mark mail from people in my address book as junk" and pick either your personal address book or your collected addresses (but not both, wtf?). But there doesn't seem to be any way to specify an LDAP server that you have configured.
  • Did the deed and upgraded OSX thunderbird to 0.7, only to see all my settings vanish

    yes really, 5 news server with dozens of groups, all gone, thankfully I don't use it for email (sticking to mail.app)

    FFS moving to 0.6 did not do this

    did they actually test this....

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