German Scientists Create 5 qubit Quantum Register 206
CMan0 writes "In the University of Bonn, a team of scientists has built a 5 qubit register, using cesium atoms trapped by a laser-beam grid, The Register reports. They've been able to install an empty 5 bit register(i.e. all bits 0), change two of them to 1, and later read those 1s back. The next goal is to create an interaction between 2 bits. The full scientific article can be found here in PDF format."
"What's a qubit?", (Score:4, Funny)
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:3, Informative)
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:5, Informative)
The point is that quantum systems have properties which are not found in classical systems. For one, they cannot be just in the states "0" or "1" (in the usual notation for quantum states: |0> or |1>), but also in so called superpositions of those states. Such a superposition means that they are something like both states at the same time (remember Schrödinger's cat? That's exactly such a state, except that unlike atoms, cats cannot actually be brought into such a state). More importantly, such a superposition can extend over more than one qubit, in which case each single qubit doesn't have a defined quantum state at all, but only the whole set of qubit has. This is called entanglement.
Now, why is this so useful? Well, assume you create a set of, say, 8 qubits which are all "half zero, half one". And now you perform a normal calculation on them (but with quantum operations). Then you are actually performing the calculation on all 8-bit combinations, at the same time, i.e. for all numbers between 0 and 255. This remarkable effect is called quantum parallelism.
Now, of course there's a catch: You cannot read out more than one of the results (because reading out one destroys the superposition), and which one you get is essentially random. Ok, you now may think, I can effectively make the calculation just for one randomly selected number? So this is actually a disadvantage? Well, the point is that you can not just do "classical" calculations, but you can add operations which are not possible in classical computers. For example, there are several "half zero and half one" bit states, and you can do a quantum operation to convert one of them to |0> and one of them to |1>. Therefore you can extract properties of that result which depend not on just one of the results, but on several of them. And this allows you to actually reduce the numeric complexity of certain tasks. For example, you can search an unsorted database in O(sqrt(N)) time, instead of the classical O(N) time (N being the size of the database). The most famous algorithm is of course Shor's algorithm which allows factorizing large numbers in polynomial time, thus allowing to break public key encryption systems like PGP.
Now, there's not too much danger yet, since AFAIK the biggest number successfully factorized with a quantum computer is 15. But then, as long as 5 qubits are newsworthy, you cannot expect too much (imagine a message that someone managed to build a classical 5-bit computer!).
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:5, Informative)
So |0> is [1,0] and |1> is [0,1]
So a "superposition" is simply A*|0> + B*|1>
= [A,B]
Nothing particulary fancy or anything.
The analogy I used to explain it to my dad is this:
Imagine I have a light bulb, with a dimmer switch. I could set this to a dimmer switch to anything in between on and off. Theoritically I could store an infinite amount of information in the dimmer switch. Imagine I took a large book, converted it to hex, and turned that into one long number. Then I prepended 0. to the front.
So you get "0.1939434....". Then I set the dimmer switch to that exact value.
But, if I want to look at the light, for some reason, I can only see if it's on or off. The chance I see it as being on is the same as the dimmer switch setting. (So if it's set to 0.5, then I have a 0.5 chance of seeing it as on, and 0.5 chance of seeing it's off).
I'm stretching this analogy a bit, but you can see that despite storing anything I want, I can still only read it as on or off.
So.. how do we use this usefully? We don't really know many practical uses, but what you can do is do calculations.
Say you put two of these lights in a room. Both are set to 0.5 brightness. With the case of the lights, the total brightness is now 1. So we've gone from having probability, to something definite. You are always going to see that as being on.
The analogy doesn't quite fit, but you can see how you can use the underlying probability to do calculations and get a definite answer.
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:2, Informative)
Maybe I don't understand the analogy...
Assuming that the light uses a dimmer switch as described in http://home.howstuffworks.com/dimmer-switch.htm/p r intable [howstuffworks.com] then the two lights will both be on/off at the same time (same sinusioudal source begin converted to on/off signal). So, the probably of light being on is still 1/2.
If instead, w
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:2)
I was thinking along the lines of using a variable resistor, like you say.
The intensity would then be at X/2 for each light. Then when you put both lights in the same room, the total would be X. (Where X is the full brightness for a given light).
I agree with what you say though. It's hard to come up with perfect analogies.
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:2)
In such a system, your infinite message wouldn't even be valid, because it doesn't terminate with the "end of stream" symbol.
Problem neatly sidestepped :-)
Re:"What's a qubit?", (Score:2)
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Analysis & request for help (Score:5, Interesting)
This result is quite exciting, because it demonstrates the feasibility of some of the techniques necessary for an optical lattice-based quantum computer. Imagine taking their 1-D lattice and turning it into a 3-D lattice, with about 30 atoms in each direction. That's a whole lot of qubits...
So what are the next steps?
1) A new means of addressing atoms (selecting one or two atoms on which to perform operations while excluding the rest) is necessary. Their magnetic gradient technique works fine for a small 1-D lattice, but it would likely be impractical for a large 3-D lattice (Maxwell's equation div B = 0 gives one major obstacle, which would require fancy tricks to overcome).
2) One and two-qubit gates need to be demonstrated using an appropriate addressing scheme.
3) Error correction, which would likely require quantum non-demolition measurements to check to see if an atom had been lost from a lattice site. Translation: we need to be able to measure if we've lost an atom from a lattice site, without disturbing the atom's state (i.e. measuring whether it's |0> or |1>).
4) Full-blown fault-tolerant computation.
My group plans to solve (1) using an addressable optical lattice. What that means is that the lattice spacing is sufficiently large that a laser can be focused on an individual atom (in 3-D, two lasers in orthogonal directions would be used). I'm currently doing simulations of one-qubit gates in this scheme.
That brings me to my question for slashdot: Some of the simulations I'll be doing (specifically, studying decoherence in the one and two qubit gates) will be very computationally intensive. They're also embarrassingly parallel, as they're essentially quantum Monte Carlo simulations. Would people be interested in a BOINC [berkeley.edu]-based distributed computing project (a la SETI@home) to help develop quantum computers? If so, what kinds of things would help you get involved? Would you be interested in helping develop the software (it's C++)?
I probably won't be at that stage for another six months to a year, but it would be helpful to me to start planning now. I have just (last night) completed the core simulation engine, and would need to add code for decoherence, as well as adapt it to BOINC. The code will be GPL'd, of course.
Re:Analysis & request for help (Score:2)
Re:Analysis & request for help (Score:2)
First quantum OS (Score:4, Funny)
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i am seriously thinking three designs.
the first one is two button mouse, ah... cat, sorry, and both button randomly assigned "alive" or "dead".
the second one is one button cat, like the one button mouse I am using, and randomly assigned and display "alive" or "dead"
the third one is also a one button system, there even no dispay before we click. Only after click, we will be notified the click is a "alive" click or a "dead" click.
Re:First quantum OS (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:First quantum OS (Score:3, Funny)
But since all possible boot cycles happen simultaneously, this shouldn't be a problem.
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Re:First quantum OS (Score:4, Informative)
That isn't even true with real quantum particles. You can manipulate force fields in order to skew the quantum wavefunctions, making it more likely for the outcome to be one option than another.
Yes, the behavior is random in the purest mathematical sense, but just because something is random doesn't mean it's unpredictable or uncontrollable.
Suppose I had a 12-sided die, which had the number 1 on each face except for a single face, which had the number 2 on it. Clearly, the outcome of the die toss is still randomly determined, even though the number 2 is only 1/11th as likely as the number 1. If I were betting on such a die, I would certainly bet on 1.
Manipulating the potential to change the quantum wavefunction is sort of analogous to changing the shape of the die. If I squash the die so that one axis is longer than the other, and the "2" face happens to fall on the end of the long axis, then I have dramatically reduced the probability of the die ever coming up 2. (Try tossing a book in the air and see how many times it lands perfectly on its spine. Possible, but very, very unlikely.) It could happen, but perhaps only one in a million times.
Re:First quantum OS (Score:2)
Re:First quantum OS (Score:2)
[modded down like a thin giraffe in quicksand]
I'll take that as a no then:-).
``I don't know, kids today, ...''
And God said.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And God said.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Upon further observation, it was known to have a probability of 1
On a serious note, this is awesome. With a 5 qubit entanglement and this, we might be able to build a primitive functional Quantum Computer, for the first time.
The team is now working to create a quantum gate in which two or more qubits of the register will interact in a controlled way.
Amazing. The beginnings of a first QC. We've memory, redundancy, processing capabilities and a lot more.
Now the only problem that remains is a suitable and reliable means of error correction - which is the biggest problem thus far in QC
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure that a "primitive functional Quantum Computer" has already been built. I recall IBM announcing that they had factored a seven bit number [ibm.com] using QC techniques.
This seems promising because it's more likely to be scalable to higher numbers of bits than IBMs approach, from what I can tell.
Re:And God said.... (Score:3, Informative)
IBM's factoring operation was a very specific deed - it's not really a quantum computer as much as a customized quantum operation for a very specific task.
I meant something where you give an input, process it, store it and retrieve it -- entirely using quantum operations.
That is a challenging.
And IBM's task and this are two entirely different things, in terms of what they mean and what they've accomplished.
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
It may not be the instance you're thinking of, but I know that the NSA was involved in the design of DES. It's resistant against differential cryptanalysis (which was not discovered publically until 15 years after DES was published). DES is not resistant against linear cryptanalysis however, which may indicate that the NSA was not aware of the technique at th
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
I started a book on QC and it's a mind-shredding topic.
Re:And God said.... (Score:5, Informative)
Atleast.
I would say maybe 50. It's not enough if you can get a system to do something - you need to make it reliable and scaleable.
We're still tackling the very basic problems in QC, and have a very very long way to go. Error correction is still a very big problem.
Some people, such as Alexei Kitaev [caltech.edu], have done some pioneering work but it's still in its infancy. A long long way to go.
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
It's not enough if you can get a system to do something - you need to make it reliable and scaleable.
Or at least make sure it's fitted out with lots of blue LED's.
Yeah, You're absolutely right, but I wouldn't be surprised if we are underestimating the rate of progress. On the other hand, we've been 50 years away from affordable fusion power for 50 years.
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
Dear Customer:
Please remit payment for the use of 1.75 x 10^39 kilowatt hours at $0.05.kWH for a total of 87.7 undecillion dollars by Monday, October 25, 2004. If your payment is late, the bill will be an additional $40. No stamps, please.
Thank you,
God
Re:And God said.... (Score:2)
Re:And God said.... (Score:2, Informative)
A 5-qubit quantum computer isn't really that fast. It's about 32 times faster than a comparable 5-bit computer, assuming that both can perform a similar number o
Re:And God said.... (Score:1)
Re:And God said.... (Score:3, Informative)
All theories that try to explain what we observe without entanglement have been disproven time and again. Bell's inequalities have been violated to 10 (or was it 50?) standard deviations and in various physical systems.
Quantum mechanics is is probably the most tested theory around, and entanglement is an integral and unavoidable part of this theory - I dont think there is particular need to "prove that it is for r
Re:And God said.... (Score:3, Funny)
Well, there was Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
Uncertainty was finally implemented int he basic laws of matter, while Fear was reserved to animals (including humans) and Doubt was reserved for the humans alone.
You see, the entire creation is based on FUD.
Re:And God said.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:And God said.... (Score:2, Funny)
Schrodinger's computer (Score:1)
Re:Schrodinger's computer (Score:2)
Re:Schrodinger's computer (Score:2)
Yes and no
Older News. (Score:5, Informative)
-New Scientist [newscientist.com]
-IndiaTimes [indiatimes.com]
Re:Older News. (Score:1, Funny)
Here at
Right, Timothy?
Re:Older News. (Score:1)
Spooky action (Score:2, Funny)
I was just going to look for information on Quantum Computing and I thought that I might as well refresh Slashdot too...
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Bill gates sez: (Score:5, Funny)
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There's probably also a joke somewhere about trying to figure out whether a quantum computer is on or off.
Caesium (Score:2)
Re:Caesium (Score:4, Informative)
I think it has to do with this.
Dark State [thefreedictionary.com]Re:Caesium (Score:2, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_state [wikipedia.org]
Re:Caesium (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Caesium, cheap! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Caesium, cheap! (Score:4, Funny)
It's not real caesium, though! It's qubic zirconium...
Re:Caesium (Score:5, Informative)
Plus, they've a discernible signature even in a spatially modulated environment and that helps.
Re:Caesium (Score:4, Funny)
Quantom Computers on the market. (Score:2)
Cesium and Laser Beams (Score:5, Funny)
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Darwin: Serveral billion - Humanity: Zilch
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Geeks don't need lead aprons (Score:2)
> glasses when I turn on my new computer?
Geeks have no need to wear a lead apron, for reasons that should be obvious after a moment's reflection. And as for protective glasses, well, most of us already wear them...
Not exactly... (Score:2)
Just don't open the case for a peek, or you'll literally let the cat out of the bag (or case as the case may be).
Dum DUm Dum (Score:1, Funny)
Not quite there! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Not quite there! (Score:3, Funny)
From the Wikipedia: qubit, quantum cryptography (Score:3, Informative)
A qubit is not to be confused with a cubit, which is an ancient measure of length.
A qubit (quantum + bit; pronounced
A qubit's most important distinction from a classical bit, however, is not the continuous nature of the state (which can be replicated by any analog quantity), but the fact that multiple qubits can exhibit quantum entanglement. Entanglement is a nonlocal property that allows a set of qubits to express superpositions of different binary strings (01010 and 11111, for example) simultaneously. Such "quantum parallelism" is one of the keys to the potential power of quantum computation.
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Quantum cryptography [wikipedia.org]
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Quantum cryptography currently has two aspects. The first is quantum key exchange, a method for securing communications based on quantum mechanics. The second is the conjectured effect of quantum computing on cryptanalysis, although it is currently, like quantum computing itself, only a theoretical concept.
The basic idea in quantum key exchange is to use the "noisy" properties of light to render incoherent an image that acts to complement a secret key. This image can be represented in a number of ways, but the ability to decode that image rests upon an understanding of how it was made. No way to intercept the transmission without changing it is possible, so key information can be exchanged with great confidence it has been transmitted secretly.
Using quantum superposition as a part of the computation, quantum computing will considerably extend the reach of cryptanalysis, making brute force key space searches much more effective -- if such computers ever become possible in actual practice.
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NOTE: Please read the actual wikipedia articles. They have TONS of hyperlinks with full explanations!
Uh, what I'm reading... (Score:3, Funny)
Awesome. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Awesome. (Score:2)
Power of two, I guess?
Programming... (Score:3, Funny)
QC as a PC (Score:4, Interesting)
For example, one qbit setup is to use a helium superfluid, which naturally bonds electrons to the surface. The bound electrons can then be controled with a combination of microwave radiation and an electric potential from wafer posts under the fluid. Each electron (qbit) sits on top of a post, which are spaced just a few nm apart. The system is still being developed, but the nice thing is once they get it to work, they can just build a large wafer holding millions of qbits.
However, the huge problem with the above example is that it needs to run at about 50 mK, which is very close to absolute zero and requires a dilution fridge, which is a 6 foot tall cylinder. There are similar (though more complicated) limitations to the laser trapping methods.
For a commercial unit I suppose the QC wafer, microwave source, and dilution fridge could be packaged together nicely, but it is still 6 feet tall, heavy, not well suited for a house. Even if it were possible to make one small enough, there are currently no real benefits for a home user unless they really wanted to find elements in a large array or crack PGP codes... I suppose the first computers were also only suited for a lab environment and scientists probably thought the average person would never need a computer either, so who knows what will develop in the next 50 years...
Re:QC as a PC (Score:2, Interesting)
The second, and to my mind more interesting point, is that the cat is, to a certain extent, out of the bag. Especially if the basic research is being done all around the world, and made freely available. There's going to be a point in time between when house-sized (but usable) quantum computers are available to governments, and when they become ubiquitous (
Misleading (Score:2, Informative)
IMNSHO, It's not really a 5-qubit register until you have interaction between the bits. That is their next step, but until then, it just doesn't count. The reason is that, other than the third "indeterminate" state that randomly returns "1" or "0" (which they also do not appear to have tested), without interaction between bits they might as well be classical bits. There is no computing advantage (other than tru
The Network is the Qomputer (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The Network is the Qomputer (Score:2)
(drumroll)
Qonqueror.
Thank you. You're a wonderful audience.
Re:The Network is the Qomputer (Score:2)
Shouldn't that be "qompelling" ?
Re:The Network is the Qomputer (Score:2)
Following Qomputing will be... (Score:2)
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Wouldn't it be quicker... (Score:2)
Just thought I'd help.
Every time you build a quantum computer... (Score:2)
Re:Lord, what's a qubit? (Score:3, Informative)
thankyou NTN [nanotech-now.com]
Re:Lord, what's a qubit? (Score:1)
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Re:Lord, what's a qubit? (Score:3, Interesting)
But it's not the scale that matters, it's the fact that it has been done. The problem with any QC related operation is the inherent difficulty -- in terms of having redundancy, storage, observation and retrieval.
That's why you keep hearing these things about quantum entanglement for 5 qubits and registers and the like. It's not the scale, it's the fact that people have been able to do them.
The problem is that a lot of things are THEORETICALLY possible in QC, but have not been practically
Re:Can somoene explain... (Score:3, Informative)
From the theorist's perspectice it doesn't really matter how you implement this stuff - if it works, all implementations are equivalent.
But of course ther are (and will remain) technical advantages of certain implementations. I do not think that currently anybody knows what the most promising physical system is. Trapped ions are probably most advanced at the moment. Compared to them neutral atoms in optical lattices might two advantages: optical lattices appear to be rather "scalable", i.e., one might go
Re:Can somoene explain... (Score:2)
For instance, they have used Caesium atoms to perform the storage - because it is neutral (therefore is unaffected by electric and magnetic fields), and it's an Alkali atom that can be manipulated using wave dipoles.
Great.
But Caesium _cannot_ form Bose Einstein Condensates. Therefore, you'll have problems performing quantum entanglement on such a system. Which would make it harder for us to build error correcting codes and a bunch of ot
Re:Quantum register vs IBM quantum "computer" ? (Score:5, Informative)
NMR quantum computing as demonstrated by IBM has many drawbacks.
For these reasons, liquid state NMR is not be considered to be scalable. Nevertheless, the NMR people have amazing control over the operations (logic gates) they can perform, and these ideas may (and have) fed back to other implementations. Moreover, there are attempts to overcome the mentioned difficulties (while keeping some advantages of NMR) by using nuclear spins in cold solids following Kane's proposal).First, there's not a single quantum system doing the computation, but rather some 10^20 molecules in the liquid - and you need so many to generate a detectable signal.
Second, the NMR quantum register cannot be properly initialized, rather it is in a nearly random state with only a slight enhancement of "0" over "1". This is part of the reason why so many systems are needed and it prevents the currently realized systmes from displaying any entanglement.
Finally, it is not clear how to scale such a system (increase the number of nuclear spins on a molecule): the larger that number, the more difficult it is to address individual qubits.
Re:38 Posts and no references to Ghostbusters, yet (Score:2)
Re:how high can it count (Score:2)
Actually a qubit can have infinitely many states, but only two of them can be read out reliably.
Re:Quantum Physics intro (Score:2)