

New Graphic Displays for the Blind 100
An anonymous reader writes "Researchers from Spain have invented a new mechanism for graphical tactile displays for the blind. The displays use metallic films featuring various shape memory alloys which are produced layer by layer on silicon wafers using thin film technology. Display pixels are generated when the metallic film adjusts its curvature partially, similarly to bimetal snap plates for temperature switches. The movement of the films is then transferred to the touch panel via plastic pins und thus can be detected by the user."
Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:5, Interesting)
I.e. I realize that something that is fairly "color deep" like my christmas webcam [komar.org] is probably undoable, but what about simple stuff like a red rose?
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:1)
BTW I don't see the JavaScript
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:2)
I wasn't aware that his lights were recently mentioned on Slashdot - that could/would explain the Javascript window. On the other hand, I don't see how it's a case of "think before you write". I don't obsess over what is posted on Slashdot and I don't see why anybody should be expected to know what's been posted.
While I certainly earned that flamebait mod (it's been awhile; it feels good)
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:2)
Looks like he had time to remove the javascript window (I don't see it anymore either) and post an anonymous retort.
Mr. Christmas Lights didn't post as an AC.
And yes, as some more astute/knowledgeable readers pointed out, my site was .'ed last week [slashdot.org] - I realized after posting that the JS pop-up was still there, so I removed it ... believe it or not, BEFORE I saw your "nice" reply.
My post was a serious inquiry/question - sorry it elicited such a strong response.
Happy Ho
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:4, Insightful)
Now, I can try to translate color into music, but that fails due to its dimensional nature - imagine trying to explain a theme with variations, where each different variation is played by a different player with spatial seperation - there aren't good enough words, and for the tone-deaf, it would still be useless.
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:2)
I recall a movie with Richard Dreyfuss which touched thi
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:1)
yes! (Score:2)
The great thing about using temperature is it is since most objects are at whatever the ambient temp is anyway, you're not taking away from some more variable tactile sense, such as texture, if you chose to implement that somehow.
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:3, Interesting)
Color is a function of the human eye receptors. A person who was blind at birth would have no clue what blue, yellow, or red is. You could say the sun is yellow but that would have about as much meaning as the sun is *kikjij*. How to would one represent *kikjij* as a texture?
Tactile senses can only really tell you shape, texture (firmness/feel), and temperature. Color can not be directly translated into feel. A first step in translating the images
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:2, Interesting)
Maybe if you could let the blind user alternate the display from a "grayscale" channel to a red, blue and then green channel, the user could then try to visualize the scene in his head. I suppose a lot of this has to do with the resolution of the device, and how many varying levels of depth it can reproduce...
Re:Could this somehow work with colors/images? (Score:3, Interesting)
or anyone for that matter.
If you had a camera mounted on your back it could translate the image it captures into a type of virtual mosiac. It could do this via a body-wide graphical tactile display of high resolution.
then interpret/transfer that image to a "shirt" of this material - or a whole skinsuit.
So this way you could actually "feel" motion behind you. Perhaps you would even get very good at it too. It is not a far stretch t
Can not represent pictures as per see with bumps. (Score:1)
What you can sense and understand under your fingers, remain two dimentionnal relative to the surface you touch. That's all of it, if you have never percieved any projected 3D to 2D picture of the world arond you, as a pair of working eyes bring you from your birth.
Unability to see during the weeks near birth, permanently desable you to develop and construct your visual cortex. That's precisely the reason blind born
Re:Can not represent pictures as per see with bump (Score:2)
Do you really think such an ability is only the relm of the sighted?
Certainly they with no sight will have a different image, but will it be any less nuanced?
I think not.
With my wacko conjecture above I am merely imagining that you could take a camera and a graphical tactile glove and via stimulation could translate an image taken with a normal light-sensing camera into a tactile representation.
This
Re:Can not represent pictures as per see with bump (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Can not represent pictures as per see with bump (Score:3, Insightful)
Do you really think such an ability is only the relm of the sighted?
Certainly they with no sight will have a different image, but will it be any less nuanced?
You're using the terminology of the seeing. I'm not blind; I have no idea what goes on in their minds. But, I imagine if they've never seen with their eyes, then they wouldn't have a "picture" of the keyboard, they would have a mental map. And i
Re:Can not represent pictures as per see with bump (Score:2)
well, I certainly agree with you that the blind would not be "seeing" a picture - but my point is that a camera could translate images into sensations which a blind person could interpret and judge their surroundings by.
Try this - look around the room. Now close your eyes (not before you finish reading this though
Move your hand around and imagine that you can feel the room, feel the wall, the carpet, the chair. It's not a far stretch of the imaginati
Re:Can not represent pictures as per see with bump (Score:1)
By the way, I am myself born strongly visualy impaired and went to specialized school organizations where I learnt and worked with Braille.
I lived with many friends born and who became blind by accidents, illness and macula progressive downgrades or near blind there several years.
Perhaps it is as difficult to understand what a blind can or can not picture when one man have good sight or met few blinds, as it is difficult for a compleatly blind to understand what si
Color - Temperature (Score:1)
WHAT?!? (Score:1, Offtopic)
There was a blind student who graduated in my CIS class. That is freak'n amazing. It is still nice to see that technology is trying to make life a little easier for them though.
deflin39
Next step (Score:2)
Which, when placed under the skin, can be used to mirror the image back out for those with vision.
Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:1)
Porn? (Score:2)
Re:Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:3, Informative)
1) Brail terminals that i've seen only offer one line of text. They are already horribly expensive items. The diffrence would be using *nix mail vs mutt. Anything with cursor control doesn't work well with this or ev
Re:Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:1)
Re:Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:2)
Well, i'm not trully familar with the modern form of text-to-speech systems used by IT professionals, only the basic ones that say "ree colin whi cant thae ucee za see el ei?". While they are helpful they can be very slow and tedius even using some old *nix utilities that don't use any form of cursor control.
I could *learn* to do much with text-to-speech but it is NO replacement for a full screen
Re:Why can't they just use the CLI? (Score:4, Informative)
Lots of fancy technology have tried to use tactile feedback for something useful for blind, but they have failed. The only useful tactile devise is really a braille display, and it displays single characters usually by moving 2X4 pieco-cells/pins up and down.
If you want to display a graphical interface, you really just map it down to one line of text (the line were your cursor is) - basically a CLI, and display it on an 80 character braille display.
Most other info (position, color, font-size etc) you either just discard, or display as sound.
Pin thingy (Score:5, Interesting)
It's a bunch of pins going through a board that you can press your hand or face or whatever against and make an impression.(I did some googling for this, but the terms I could think of were too general)
If you could put a servo on each of those pins, it seems like you could pretty easily achieve the same result.
Re:Pin thingy (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Pin thingy (Score:4, Informative)
Current braille displays use piezoelectric pins, not solenoids (pagers also use piezoelectric wafers to vibrate).
Piezoelectric pins are low-power, but also brittle. You can't get very good resolution because if you make them too tiny, they break. They also tend to have short lifetimes.
Solenoids are even bulkier, and draw more power, making them even less practical than piezo pins. Solenoids are good when you need a lot of punching power (which is why they're used for dot-matrix printer heads). They're overkill when you just want something a blind person can sense.
In 1999, two other Electrical Engineering students and I built something like this for our student design project. It used (guess what) shape memory alloys. It connected directly to the VGA output of a PC and averaged the color inputs to judge whether pixels should be raised or lowered.
It was only 8x8 pixels (just a prototype), but it was pretty awesome to move the mouse around and see those pins "do the wave".
The only drawback was the amount of heat it generated. Shape memory alloys change shape *because* of temperature difference (the change in temperature is not a side effect).
Even with a bunch of CPU fans cooling it, we were afraid our device would melt if we left it on for more than a few minutes.
It appears these folks have solved the heat/power problem with a design that requires power only when changing state. Nice work!
Re:Pin thingy (Score:1, Insightful)
Braille displays are damned expensive. an 80-cell
braill display can cost up to $15,000. They are
quite reliable. The one I'm using at the moment has
worked fine for the last 12 years. I'd be interested to know
what the reliability of this new tech. is like. The display I used
previously used solenoids and needed maintenance every few months.
Re:Pin thingy (Score:2)
Interesting stuff (Score:5, Interesting)
You might wonder why these devices need to be so complex when Braille is just a series of dots. The thing is that Braille is a lot more complex than people think. (I think this is interesting but apologies if it's a little off-topic.)
Type I Braille is basically a 1:1 mapping of letter onto 2x3 arrays of dots. It's not much more than a font, but this is what people tend to think of as Braille.
Type II Braille uses a lot of abbreviations, and is rather more complex to read. For example, certain punctuation marks coincide with word abbrevations, and only the context serves to differentiate the too.
Type III Braille is still more complex and is almost like a whole other language. I don't know much more about it than that, but anyone who does can add to this.
So you see that the increasing complexity of these devices actually makes life a lot easier for blind computer users. I wonder how many blind people read Slashdot?
Very Enlightening... (Score:1)
Seriously though, I vaguely remember hearing that there were 3 types of Braille, but at the time I remeber feeling slightly confused, but not pursuing the matter... Now it makes much more sense and helps me realize that there is more to the issue than I thought...
Re:Interesting stuff (Score:3, Interesting)
So, in grade I braille there is a one-to-one mapping for letters and punctuation
but for numbers the letters a thru i represent 1 to 9, j represents 0; but numbers are preceedded by a reserved "number sign" pattern to
disambiguate. In grade II braille, things are a lot more compled. You have "contractions" where a single cell is used to represent frequently-used letter combinations like (sh) or (ch).
These contractions can a
Re:Interesting stuff (Score:1)
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Re:Interesting stuff (Score:1)
so basically what you're saying is you can read a kind of 8 bit binary?!
Re:Interesting stuff (Score:2)
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Hit me at dojothemouse@mac.com with your email address, and desired nick (and perhaps a backup or two, in case they're taken). I'll give you a starter password.
Hrm. Maybe I'll advertise this in my sig.
Imagine... (Score:1, Funny)
Hey Blindy, Interpret This! (Score:2)
I have to wonder if blind users of technology have a subtle sense of interpretation that is above or beyond what we eyeballers have.
Most people (including me) think that they have better powers of perception that do not rely on visual interpretation (which is what we all do here).
OMG, I just visualized the goat guy computouch device, eww!
Re:Hey Blindy, Interpret This! (Score:1)
Actually you _touched_ it, which is way more scary.
is this the best todays technology can do? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:is this the best todays technology can do? (Score:2)
Audible Graphic Display? (Score:5, Interesting)
I think it would be interesting if the pixels actually made an audible snap when they change. I don't have any visual disabilities, but it would seem that Braille offers no equivalent to the peripheral vision sighted people use to take full advantage of a large graphical display. Such snap sounds (if done subtly enough) could be a small step in that direction. A "multimedia experience" of sorts for the visually impaired.
Then again, Braille terminals may already have this: in the movie Sneakers the terminal used by Whistler was making sounds as it was updated, but that may have been artistic license by the director.
Re:Audible Graphic Display? (Score:2)
Not spanish :-( (Score:1, Informative)
Vokimon.
snappy (Score:2)
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As far as Braille being a DC phenomenon, I think the idea is that there were supposed to be a small number of braille units, like one for each fingertip, and the person would keep their finger stationary while the letters scrolled ac
Re:snappy (Score:2)
Asian 4 You (Score:1)
But I wonder if tactile porn is better than visual. Any wiseguy who would like to comment on that?
mod parent down (Score:1)
Will these graphic be able to replace brail? (Score:1)
Its articles may be worth reading, but that's not why you buy the magazine now is it?
Re:Will these graphic be able to replace brail? (Score:1)
Finally.. (Score:1)
Re:Finally.. (Score:2)
Amazing. (Score:1)
Only trouble with these is . . . (Score:2)
Re:Speakers for the deaf. (????) (Score:1)
"Speakers for the deaf" is perhaps not so ridiculous as it first seems. Hearing is just the ear picking up acoustical waves in the air. Those same waves in another medium might be detected by the hands, feet, face etc. (think of the way an entire car will vibrate when the subwoofer is cranked up).
I can't see any good reason why music couldn't be experienced as a tactical sensation rather than an audial one. Don't know how aesthetically pleasing it would be though - rhythm would be easy but melody and pitc
Re:Speakers for the deaf. (????) (Score:2)
They could not see a graphic relief map but they could feel it. They can't see a tactile display but they can feel it, and chances are a sighted person could SEE it too.
Clearly you have eyes but they do not see.
Seeing without eyes... (Score:1)
Wired had a great article [wired.com] on something similar a while back. It was the same principle, involving a small unit on a retainer that would "display" images to the roof of the mouth. As far as I've heard, fighter pilots also have similar systems in the backs of their flight suits allowing them to locate other crafts through tactile input (although wording like that makes it sound like it was recently banned in 11 states).
I also rememeber reading (or watching...Big Thinkers maybe) something about a audible disp
Finally... (Score:1)
Technology (Score:2)
Some facts (Score:2)
A blind person can use a computer with sound only (using TextToSpeach and Screen Readers), but braille devices are a great aid. But the braille d
Todays braille devices (Score:2)
Papenmeier EL 2D-80 [papenmeier.de]
You place your keyboard on the top. This particular display has a 20 character vertical list as well. That is a bit uncommon. Most have just a 40/60/80 character horisontal list.
The new technology is supposed to replace the 2X4 piezo cells that you see at the bottom of picture 2.
They're German, not Spanish (Score:2)