Mozilla Firefox 1.02 Released 453
akadruid writes "Mozilla has begun rolling the Firefox 1.02 security update. It has appeared with the little fanfare and without the staggered rollout of 1.01 - have Mozilla sorted their distribution worries?"
How they solved distribution worries (Score:5, Funny)
RTFA (Score:3, Informative)
Re:RTFA (Score:3, Insightful)
Isn't bashing OSS supporters for a minority of people who believe that it's invulnerable, godsent and sacrosanct a little childish and immature? However humorous and/or karma whoreish it may appear, I think it's slightly unfair to imply that anyone who believes that F/OSS has benefits over other business practices is so over-zealous.
Before you whack me back for not recognising a joke, yes I did notice the intended humour, but it's so goddamn old that it really doesn't count.
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0.04% Faster (Score:4, Funny)
Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Cool (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Cool (Score:3, Informative)
I'm waiting for their long-awaited IM program to come out. It would be very nice to have a Mozilla-based IM program.
IIRC, versions 6/7 of netscape included a built in AOL client (at least for the linux version). Of course, it was fairly unusable when compared to something such as gaim [sf.net], but it was there. I'm unaware as to whether the new firefox-based version of netscape includes it, though.
Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would it be "very nice" to have a Mozilla-based IM client? What would a Mozilla-based IM client offer over any one of the other third-party IM clients (gaim, trillian, etc)?
Last I looked, I use Mozilla for web browsing, not chatting with friends. I looked at their email client, but found myself saying "ho hum, another email client" and then going back to Outlook. Yes, sue me, I'm a windows user for my desktop.
I take my car to the mechanic, but I sure as hell wouldn't take my heart attack to him. As old Rosie put it, a place for everything, and everything in its place. Maybe Mozilla should concentrate on finding and patching more holes... They obviously have a few.
PS - Before I invoke the wrath of Slashdot, I do, in fact, use Firefox for web browsing, not IE.
Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Cool (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
If you're trying to convince your organization to switch to open-source offerings, it's easier to bring up an integrated solution such as, "We can switch to the Mozilla Suite" than to have to sell three or four different projects like, "We can switch to K-Meleon for browsing, Trillian for IM, Thunderbird for email," etc.
Re:Cool (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Cool (Score:3, Interesting)
I recently tried Thunderbird when I was having an IMAP issue with Eudora 5.2, but I realised how much I liked having eudora keep everything in one window, kind of like tabbed browsing. Thunderbird, at least by default, started popping up new windows to compose mails. Then Eudora started working again for some reason, so there went thunderbird.
Re:Cool (Score:3, Informative)
It hasn't been discontinued. In the interview with Mitchell Baker [slashdot.org] she mentioned that the Mozilla Foundation will provide Mozilla 1.7.x maintenance and security releases for the next two years, and possibly longer depending on how many users it has then. The Mozilla Foundation handed off the task of testing and building releases beyond Mozilla 1.7.x to the Seamonkey group [mozilla.org].
Re:Cool (Score:3, Insightful)
In the same way that Microsoft would (in a more ideal world ;-) ) try to convince Linux desktop users to "switch to Internet Explorer for browsing, Windows Messenger for IM, Outlook for e
Re:Cool (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cool (Score:3, Informative)
Most of the 3rd party multi-protocol IM clients are cross-platform, the only exception I can think of is gaim. Gaim, however requires the use of gtk, and gtk doesn't work all that nicely with Windows, even with the gtk-wimp theme.
A Mozilla-based IM client would solve the these problem, and I would really look forward to one.
Re:Cool (Score:4, Insightful)
I disagree. GTK apps on Windows doen't quite feel like a native Windows application (non Windows-standard file dialogs, etc) I wouldn't say GTK "doesn't work all that nicely with Windows". It's still very nice and usable and I use GAIM all the time on WindowsXP. It's excellent.
The only real GAIM/Windows gripe I have is a window positioning issue with my three-monitor setup. But this is a pretty nonstandard config so I'm not complaining. (I don't know if it's a GAIM or a GTK issue. I suspect GTK but I'm not sure)
Re:Cool (Score:3, Informative)
And although my little extension isn't really useable by anyone else, there are people working on a jabber client in XUL called jabberzilla.
Re:Cool (Score:4, Interesting)
After that, work can get done to fix the installer, and then make the installation customizable so that you can have corporate rollouts and silent installs. Maybe they can learn to use the standard installation formats that some OS' offer (like MSI on Windows).
Then work can start on making the GUI not ass slow, and perhaps the occassional native UI element. After that they can look into how to stop independantly themeing the app, and use the OS built in theme functionality.
And just in case anyone insists it's just me and this is the best piece of software ever: This is very common. Most people have this problem. Everyone I've met that uses Firefox has these problems.
Re:Gaim crashes (Score:3, Interesting)
I've also noticed on my crappy campus connection that I'm keeping a connection to AIM via Trillian when everyone using AIM/Dead AIM is getting disconnected every 20 minutes or so.
Not to mention the nice easy encrypted IM's (I know, not perfect, but combined with direct connections, likely good enough for most. Hey, if anyone want's to do a pl
Mirrors (Score:2)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
options->advanced->software update->check now.
Re:Mirrors (Score:3, Insightful)
For a proper update procedure, it seems you have to download the new version, uninstall the old one, and then re-install the new one - hoping that all plugins survive the procedure.
That's not user friendly, and will drive people away from Firefox, perhaps back to IE, which is definitely easier to keep up to date. I do hope that Firefox will get a true "patch"
Re:Mirrors (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Mirrors (Score:5, Informative)
So.... chill.
1.2.. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:1.2.. (Score:5, Informative)
Adblock definitions site... (Score:5, Informative)
At this site [geocities.com], you can find updated Adblock definitions that you can easily import. Just scroll down to the most recent update, download, and install.
Ever since I installed these, I've had to manually block something only a couple of times. They work great!
Re:Adblock definitions site... (Score:5, Informative)
Here is a mirror to the latest updates 2005-03-20a.txt [purdue.edu]
Filterset.G instructions - important! (Score:5, Informative)
Recommended Adblock settings for Filterset.G
[To modify: Tools > Adblock > Preferences]
Hide Ads x Remove Ads
Ablock Options:
Obj-Tabs
x Collapse Blocked Elements
x Check Parent Links
x Site Blocking
x Keep List Sorted
Re:1.2.. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:1.2.. (Score:5, Informative)
- go to about:config
- right-click and select New/Integer preference
- make a pref called "privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins"
- set the value 2
now plugins are not allowed to make popups. This hasn't been made a public preference, since it is a bit crude and may break some sites. It does fix the flash-popups though.
Re:1.2.. (Score:3, Informative)
By default, popups aren't disabled for plugins (like Flash). Here's how to disable them for plugins;
Re:1.2.. (Score:4, Informative)
browser.link.open_external 3
1: Open in current window (default)
2: Open in new window
3: Open in new tab
browser.link.open_newwindow 1
1: Open in current window
2: Open in new window (default)
3: Open in new tab
browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction 2
0: Divert everything (default)
1: Divert target="_blank" etc. but not window.open
2: Divert everything expect window.open with three parameters
privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins 2
0: open allowed (default)
1: limits their number to dom.popup_maximum (even with popup blocker disabled)
2: the window is a popup, block it
3: blocks them even on whitelisted sites
dom.disable_open_during_load true
True (default): Block popup windows created while the page is loading
False: Allow popup windows
Best way to upgrade? (Score:5, Interesting)
jf
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:2, Informative)
DISCLAIMER: Use at your own risk. It is always best to backup the profile directory if you can not afford to lose it!
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:3, Informative)
Oh, quit trolling... I get this on my Debian box:
Not to mention that apt hasn't been a Debian-only tool for quite a while...
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:5, Informative)
You're asking for trouble if you update without installing. I ended up with both 1.0 and 1.0.1 in my Add/Remove Programs (win98), and removing the former broke the latter (and broke its uninstall function). The only way to get rid of 1.0.1 was to reinstall it to restore the uninstaller, then try again.
Dealing with the two add / remove entries (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:5, Informative)
It's Easy (Score:4, Informative)
Drag the Firefox icon from the image folder to your Applications folder and click the OK button to approve the overwrite.
Then, you are done!
Easy.
Re:Best way to upgrade? (Score:3, Informative)
FWIW I had problems with the auto-update and did have to uninstall and reinstall and reconfigure my firewall.
Auto-update success (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Auto-update success (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Auto-update success (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Auto-update success (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Auto-update success (Score:3, Informative)
- A
Re:Auto-update success (Score:3, Informative)
Turned out my Zone Alarm was blocking the new version by default, but for some reason didn't pop up a message box saying so. Once I checked the program controls the new FireFox worked fine...
No need to panic... (Score:5, Informative)
As the version number suggests, this is a pretty minor update. That's not to say that these security fixes aren't important; they are, and they proove once again that open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model. Nevertheless, it means that the Mozilla Foundation aren't expecting a major download rush. Of course, with Slashdot's intervention, maybe we can take them by surprise.
Now, how long to the first "Firefox 1.02 ate my boot sector" post?
Re:No need to panic... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:No need to panic... (Score:4, Insightful)
And as much as a fanboy as I am for OSS I don't possibly see how you can say that OSS "can react faster to new threats than any closed source development model". OSS does indeed usually act faster than commercial software expecially when you bring something like IE into the picture. But whether something is open or closed has absolutely nothing to do with how fast the owner of the code responds to a security threat. That's on them and has zero to due with whether its open or closed. A commercial provider could have reacted just as quickly.
Again I'm all for pro-OSS statements, but let's keep it to the facts.
Re:No need to panic... (Score:3, Informative)
However!
There is a bug that's very annoying to me in Mozilla Firefox. If I click the middle mouse button on a link to make a new tab, until it has actually loaded the page, the adress for the page will not show up in the adress bar. In fact, if the page doesn't load properly (this happens often due to my connection) I will get told the document contains no data, and the adress will never appear. If it did appear, I could just go and hit 'enter' to rel
Re:No need to panic... (Score:3, Insightful)
God knows I sure don't. But that isn't the point, is it? The issue is whether enough white-hat hackers see it that a critical mass of voices is reached when security issues are found. That chorus of community concern is what informs and motivates the developers of open source software to correct security inadequacies in a timely fashion. In a closed source environment, the amount of people who know the code well enough to co
Disappointed (Score:5, Interesting)
Solution (Score:5, Informative)
Right click anywhere
Select new, integer
Name: privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins
Value: 2
-- Taken from another
Re:Disappointed (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Disappointed (Score:4, Informative)
If you're looking for new features or enhancements, you'll get that with 1.1. Or you can try the nightly builds. But don't expect any noticable changes in a security/stability update (unless you are suffering from stability problems).
As for your pop-ups, the latest trend is supposedly to generate them from a Flash embed. You can either not install Flash, or use the Flashblock extension (recommended), or try adblock, or try the hidden preference that is supposed to prevent plugin-generated pop-ups. In the past, a major cause of failure for the pop-up blocker has been the Tabbrowser Extensions (TBE) extension. I don't know whether it still suffers from this problem.
Mozilla 1.7.6 out, too (Score:5, Informative)
-m
Update? (Score:5, Insightful)
I love how firefox/thunderbird keep filling up my Add/Remove Programs list in XP everytime there is an "update".
Not trying to flame, but shouldn't there be a better way?
Re:Update? (Score:2)
Re:Update? (Score:3, Informative)
All you bookmarks and extensions will still be there after you install the new version. Those are saved in your profile directory, which is not deleted when you uninstall the old Firefox.
then why bother with autoupdate at all ? (Score:5, Insightful)
You should be uninstalling the old version before you install the new one.
which bit of autoupdate don't they get ?
i shouldnt be doing anything other than clicking an update icon,everything should be taken care of
does Microsoft say "to install SP2 you must uninstall SP1" ? so why do i have to in mozilla ?
never mind me having to disappear into advanced settings to check updates manually when in IE its on the tools menu, easy to get at if i want to check
at the moment the word to describe their update process is rubbish
Re:Update? (Score:3, Interesting)
Wasn't that the mantra when it was in its pre-1.0 days. I remember people complaining then, but the response was "it's not yet 1.0, what do you expect".
Now that it is an official release, I don't think expecting users to uninstall before installing an 'update' is the best way to go.
BTW. It does seem to operate without doing an uninstall first. I went from 1.0 to 1.0.1, then to 1.0.2 without uninstalling first. Though the entire
Re:Update? (Score:3, Interesting)
The same thing works for Thunderbird. Usually I think it deletes the old Add/Remove options. (or at least one of them..) This is the most convenient quick-and-dirty way to update a bunch of machines in a small Windows domain.. put that command in everyone's login script the night before.
Re:Update? (Score:5, Insightful)
This is moronic. We are talking about a program that is getting a lot of attention from a lot of people. Hell, my grandparents even use it.
That said, my grandparents SHOULD NOT have to uninstall and then reinstall. It won't make sense to them because it is retarded. An update function should be just that. It shouldn't ask all the same questions it did back when you first installed it. It shouldn't ask if you want firefox as your home page. Those things have already been done. I think when you click update it should just do it. It should download, install, and then pop up a window saying it needs to restart the browser. It should then close the browser, and reopen it. (preferably back to the same url you were at when you got the update message)
Now that I've said that, thanks for the registry edit info. I needed to know that. (the update for Google's Picasa did the same thing)
Re:Update? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry.
When was the last time you talked to an end user?
Just in time... (Score:4, Interesting)
Proactive release (Score:3, Informative)
Easiest way to update (Score:5, Funny)
Hopefully there is a Debian build when I get home so that I can update my MEPIS/Debian box. (Or is that GNU/MEPIS/DEBIAN/Linux?? :-) )
what would be very cool ... (Score:5, Interesting)
that would be cool
When are they gonna fix this? (Score:3, Interesting)
Its not so bad on my work comp, but downright embarrasing on my girlfriend's laptop when there's 5 Firefox entries in the Add/Remove Programs dialog.
Ugh, no zip builds (Score:5, Interesting)
Only problem? The release notes don't specify the build ID, so you have to run the installer first. When you do that, you discover the build ID is 20050317. Only there don't (currently) appear to be any 1.02 zip builds in any of the aviary directories for 20050317.
Am I missing something?
Autodebug (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Autodebug (Score:3, Funny)
Memory leak (Score:5, Insightful)
Having an idle browser leaking 300 MB of memory per day is like a self-inflicted DOS attack.
Fixed in 1.1 (Score:3, Informative)
Big bucks, no whammies, no Slashdot bias.. Beeowww (Score:4, Interesting)
"When ever I access my mail account at https://mail.yahoo.com, [with Firefox 1.0x] the browser crashes when I log out."
Score: 0 Offtopic
"I hate those smilie popups which seems to be unblockable, please make them go away. [which is to say Firefox still isn't blocking all popups]
Score: 0 Offtopic
"I hope this fixes the problems with this document contains no data."
Score: 0 Troll
"Open source software can react far faster to new threats than any closed source development model."
Score: +5 Informative
Mmmm gotta love that pure Slashdot fanboi machine. Work in a plug for Linux or Open Source, instant +5. Mention a valid and existing bug with the open source software the post is about, you're an offtopic troll, probably a NAMBLA member or Nazi too. Die!
Re:Big bucks, no whammies, no Slashdot bias.. Beeo (Score:5, Insightful)
Well the story IS about an update.
Those other comments you show that were modded offtopic are *bug reports*. This isn't where you go to file bug reports.
Firefox update feature fails (Score:3, Interesting)
I told it to "Check now" for updates, and got this error:
"Firefox was not able to find any available updates"
Umm, there is an available update, a whole new version.
Maybe the Firefox team should have Firefox check the Slashdot RSS feed to see if it needs updates.
Sigh.
Bad auto-update in Firefox (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:help me mozilla! (Score:2)
Re:help me mozilla! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Uninstall first please (Score:5, Informative)
However, Autopackage [autopackage.org] works great (if you've have FF installed from Autopackage): http://www.wildgardenseed.com/Taj/autopackage/fir
(BTW, if you do try this Autopackage, we'd love some feedback on how it works--taj at wildgardenseed dot com).
Re:Uninstall first please (Score:3, Informative)
Nothing really magical going on there. Two entries for firefox doesn't mean you have two copies of firefox installed. Delete the registry key if you really care that much? Most people are too busy USING their computer to worry about what little glitches are in a dialog in control panel that they never use.
Re:Uninstall first please (Score:3, Insightful)
Many people still think using "the internet" means clicking on the Explorer icon. A minor item like this doesn't help convince them to switch.
Re:1.0x browser crashes. (Score:2)
Every now and again (1x daily) when using firefox and I go to CTRL-W a tab, it'll shut my machine down.
Seriously. Even after 1.01. I'll try it again once a new rev comes out.
No problems with the latest mozilla.
Of course, I also don't have this issue at home on my home theater box, but I also don't slam that box as hard (as in usage, not the physical-sort-of-slammin')
Re:1.0x browser crashes. (Score:3, Funny)
And it looks like you're overshooting W and hitting F4.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Re:1.0x browser crashes. -- mod original poster up (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:1.0x browser crashes. (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, we can verify that [slashdot.org].
Mess with the bull U get the horns! (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry, thats just the way it is. If you don't like it, go find another community where open free discussion of all ideas is encouraged. We don't do that here!
Two types of posts will be accepted here. 1) Flowing praise for any/all F/OSS projects or 2) Spewing hatred toward MS$. Any other ideas or discussions are strictly prohibited!
Re:Auto-Updates? (Score:3, Informative)
There were some problems with auto update in 1.0 that were fixed in 1.0.1. You should now see a message box in the bottom right corner (like when downloads finish) when there are critical updates.
Also, another easily-overlooked item is the up-pointing arrow that sometimes appears in the top right corner. This means updates are available. Red for critical updates, blue or green for non-critical updates
Re:no data message (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bugs (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Keeping it private (Score:3, Informative)