Google Readies Platform for Video Distribution 228
Eric writes "According to BetaNews, 'Google is preparing a video distribution platform that provides a complete ecosystem of services for content producers, publishers and end-users.' The first phase of its video upload program rolled out today, and 'content owners will be able to control distribution rights themselves, even setting a price for their video clips. Eventually, users will be able to search, preview, purchase and play videos directly from within Google.'"
Hmmm... (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Will TV networks sign on to this? Will we able to download last night's episode of 24 for a small fee? How much will they charge?
2) Why aren't these files DRM-less (see the article)? But Google is an innovator, and maybe they can come up with something fair (though fair and DRM seem to be mutually exclusive nowadays...).
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
There is no "fair" DRM. Fair use has restrictions in itself. There is no reason to mandate more restrictions on top of that.
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
last nights? never(well, in short term future anyhow), maybe if the show wasn't a hit series. but they know that they could sell it to you couple of months afterwards as well, without making a theoretical dent in their first night viewer ratings.
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
questions are interrelated (Score:2)
If the networks are stupid they will assume that downloads can only cannibalize their DVD sales. This is a natural assumption. TV series on DVD appear to be a hot commodity recently. The natural resolution to this assumption is that downloads should appear months after DVD release and cost a lot.
If they are smart they will realize that they are actually competing against P2P networks.
Come on submitter... (Score:5, Funny)
If a product is not going to "Kill", "Murder" or "Burninate" the opposition, I'm not listening.
It's an ecosystem, dude... (Score:2)
Killing and eating are implied. Even maggots on rotting flesh!
Will this project be moved out of the Googleplex and into a Biodome?
Re:Come on submitter... (Score:2)
Wait
Will it work? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Will it work? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Will it work? (Score:2)
Re:Will it work? (Score:3, Funny)
what other search engines?
Example of Google's automatic indexing (Score:2)
From the mistakes, it looks like the audio is being transcribed by a computer. Despite the many mistakes
Re:Example of Google's automatic indexing (Score:3, Informative)
Copyright (Score:5, Insightful)
I think that's going to be the biggest hurdle for this service to overcome. I think this would be a great service for smaller production teams or individuals looking to release their creations (although there are a number of services that already do this I believe). But to me, this new service will be largely deluged with people looking to trade bootleg videos, pr0n, etc, as again almost all the other similar services are.
pending our approval process
so, is it someones job to look through every video when it's uploaded? To catch any copyright infringement. Again, this seems like a real problem for this and any other similar service.
Re:Copyright (Score:5, Interesting)
Well of course porn will be a part of it as that industry is typically the first to adopt new technology as part of their operations. Of course people will absue the system as you said but hopefully some industries will embrace it as well which could lift the validity of it.
This could be a very good thing but I really have to say that if people do cloud the waters with copyrighted material the networks, RIAA, MPAA, etc, will do everything in their power to discredit it and bring it down.
This is a gutsy move by Google.
Re:Copyright (Score:2, Interesting)
are you sure? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:are you sure? (Score:2)
Suppose you had some kind of "hash" function which was loosly (note two oh's) based on the color of subdivided portions of an image. You then have a sequence of hashes that represents a video. Search your database index for a similar sequence of image hashes.
Now suppose you could create a hash of, say, five seconds
Re:are you sure? (Score:2)
Words (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Words (Score:2)
You can sign in using your Gmail account (Score:4, Informative)
WTF (Score:5, Funny)
Fan-fucking-tastic.
When are /. going to start distributing "-1 - Google Sycophantia" mod points?
I, for one, welcome our "we're not evil, but we are a publicly owned corporation, just like all the other fuckers; give it a few years before we turn into another bunch of wankers" overlords.
The Google Universe (Score:5, Funny)
Verified uploads... (Score:5, Insightful)
Distributed verification Re:Verified uploads... (Score:4, Insightful)
i.e. One or more folks are in charge of Kids' birthday videos, one or more in charge of original animation, and 10,313 are in charge of the various porn categories.
They are "trained," "paid" based on performance, and are moderated (e.g. if copyrighted works slip through on their watch, they are somehow penalized).
The verification bottleneck opens up significantly without Google's staff of Full Time Employees expanding exponentially.
The Google Network ...
Google Uploader (Score:5, Informative)
I wonder how long before someone makes a third party tool to do this on Linux/Mac?
Re:Google Uploader (Score:2)
Re:Google Uploader (Score:2)
Re:Google Uploader (Score:2)
Just because it's prohibited doesn't mean that it won't happen.
Re:Google Uploader (Score:2)
It's a pity, too, since the most interesting thing about Darwin is the kernel.
Too many products and betas? (Score:5, Interesting)
This sounds great, but I wouldn't mind Google Image search results that didn't keep returning 404's.
In a recent recruitment video [google.com] that featured on GoogleBlog [google.com] the nice lady says Google is all about "ambitious ideas, fast responses, big acheivements" but it seems to me they want to pump out new services as testaments to what the Googlers are capable of and show off their cool attitude..without actually producing a well polished and maintained product.
Who hasn't noticed degradation of Google search results or lots and lots 404's on image search?
I just hope the grid doesn't crumble and burn.
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:2, Interesting)
Coming up with lots of neat ideas is what's driving their stock price up and giving returns to the shareholders.
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:2, Insightful)
NewsMasters?! (Score:2)
Pfft.
--grendel drago
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:2)
Am I the only person who thinks that Google's recruitment video is a bit creepy?
Re:Too many products and betas? (Score:2, Funny)
Two words.. (Score:2)
read the TOS agreement (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:read the TOS agreement (Score:3, Interesting)
Confuzzled. (Score:2)
I'm so confused.
--grendel drago
Not a Netflix killer. What else could it be? (Score:3, Insightful)
So what does this point to for Google? There might certainly be a market for Indie film distribution via Google. This would dramatically reduce distribution costs and open a whole new market for indie films.
Really? (Score:2)
--grendel drago
From TFFAQ (Score:5, Informative)
# Can I charge for playback of my video?
Yes. Or you can allow users to play your video for free. This is totally up to you and your video distribution goals. As the content owner, you decide whether you'd like to give away your video for free or charge a price that you set for it. If you do charge a price, Google will take a small revenue share to cover some of our costs.
# How is my content protected?
Google takes the security of your content very seriously. We've put a number of measures in place to prevent copying or sharing of your content. For more information on our copyright policies and procedures, please read the Copyright section of this FAQ.
Dark Fiber (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dark Fiber (Score:2, Funny)
Google's taking over (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Google's taking over (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Google's taking over (Score:3, Informative)
However, Google does have one caveat in its upload terms: "The video must not contain pornographic or obscene material."
I hope Google doesn't get to decide what's "obscene."
The cafepress.com of video (Score:2)
And wouldn't this last article [slashdot.org] mean they'll have some competition?
Curiouser and curiouser. Is video delivery the next big thing on the internet?
TOS (Score:5, Informative)
From the TOS:
Re:TOS (Score:2)
Re:TOS (Score:2)
The key words in that being, "non-exclusive".
That whole paragraph of jargon essentially says they're allowed to provide the damn servi
Re:TOS (Score:2)
Only at Google would a license agreement include the right to create algorithms based on your content. :)
--Bruce
Makes sense to me (Score:2, Insightful)
Invisible Movies (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Invisible Movies (Score:2)
-> rename any file "<whatever>.<original-extension>.mp4"
Re:Invisible Movies (Score:2)
Don't be evil? (Score:3, Informative)
So much for Do no Evil (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:So much for Do no Evil (Score:3, Interesting)
It could also be used to protect themselves from a variety of possible legal concerns that might arise from their normal operations.
I work with content and content management systems and see similar clauses in most of our contracts with subject matter experts, authors and provisioning contractors. I'm not a lawyer myself, but have asked our legal staff about why these are included, and the consensus answer I get from them is that they save considerable legal effo
Re:So much for Do no Evil (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:So much for Do no Evil (Score:3, Insightful)
Just because they used plain language in their terms does not mean that they are being !evil. I think enticing people to give up the rights to their content is edging twards evil.
I think they could be more clear about what is going on here.
Types of video accepted (Score:3, Informative)
"What types of videos are you accepting?
We accept any type of video content, with these restrictions:
* You must own all necessary rights to the content, including copyrights toboth the video and the audio.
* You must be able to upload the video to us electronically.
* The video must not contain pornographic or obscene material.
The content may be reviewed prior to being made available online. If we cannot use it, we'll let you know."
Reminds me of EPIC (Score:3, Informative)
Do this for music!!! (Score:2)
1) Upload MP3 content.
2) Pick price
3) Marketing / advertising / word of mouth
4) User access, pay, download
5) Profit???
Re:Do this for music!!! (Score:2)
Why don't you just ask them to throw all thier money and stock into 1 000 000 suitcases and mail them to every lawyer in the world.
Ok ok, the artists get to split 1 suitcase.
Windows Only (Score:4, Informative)
Interestingly, all of Google's desktop applications are all Windows only. Given their hiring blitz and their well-advertised work incentives, Google could easily find Mac and Linux programmers, so the lack of support for other platforms must be intended. Other companies can make the argument that the cost is too great, but Google can clearly afford it. So, what exactly is the strategy here?
Re:Windows Only (Score:4, Insightful)
Even if you can afford something it has an opportunity cost, and that may be too great.
A new app Windows can use is going to bring in much more users than expanding an app to Linux or the Mac.
So sure, maybe you spend (to pull figures out of the air) 500,000 getting the desktop apps onto Linux and the Mac, and that nets you 1 million return in greater users and so ad revenue. Or maybe you could spend that 500,000 on a new project that gets 4 million return in revenue.
Re:Windows Only (Score:3, Insightful)
As an example: How much could it cost to port their video uploader to the Mac? Maybe $50,000 to one consultant...seems like a drop in the bucket to get v
Re:Windows Only (Score:2)
no program should be needed (Score:3, Insightful)
without anything more than a web browser. Why would
I need anything more for this new service?
Re:Windows Only (Score:2)
Re:Windows Only (Score:2)
Focus on search? No. Agility. (Score:3, Interesting)
They are certainly not focusing on it so much any more, and are adapting to the market forces. Nice and agile.
Re:Focus on search? No. Agility. (Score:2)
Sure, you can tack search onto most things...
If you build it.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Enter Google
Google starts playing with searching video. Fine. Issue is that all video on TV is copyrighted and 'Fair Use' is not what it used to be. Fine. So someone says, "Hey, lets get people to upload they're own video and we can test with that." Great. The blogger group shifts from photo blogs to video blogs. Google has content. User satisfied the strange need to document the life and times of their gerbil. Everyone is happy. You have eyes. It's a small stretch once you have content to play with management. (And management in a manor that you control, not some big company demands) It's brilliant! They are going to end up with a content base (Dude, now my rock band can distribute mp3's and our killer concert footage) and audience. It's built, the market's there. All the big companies have to do is sign up.
Google is getting big, and I would argue that they are starting to approch the SpiderMan-great-power-great-responsibility dilemma (some may argue we're past that) Our last remaining hope is that the key mentality in leadership that is leading to Google's success is linked the good side of the force. i.e. if evil forces take over the innovation dies. (Still, anyone want to bet on if Google-AOL-TimeWarner exists a few years from now.)
Christ...just give me my Google briefs already... (Score:2, Flamebait)
I just hope my mail-order Google bride remembered to fill up the Google car before she went to her Google book club this morning. Damned, bitch. Leaving me with the Google adoption service kids every Thursday morning to be a woman.
Where the hell is my Starb
Re:Christ...just give me my Google briefs already. (Score:2)
IronChefMorimoto
Content-based video searching/indexing (Score:3, Interesting)
Now that I think about it, having uploaders manually index the videos the submit is a fantastic way for Google to bootstrap an automated video indexing system.
One neat project is Sivic & Zisserman's Video Google [ox.ac.uk] (no relation to the Google company, I think). They have a demo available where you can search for automatically-extracted objects in a movie. They also show the results of doing things like detecting Bill Murray's tie throughout the movie Groundhog Day.
Re:hmm (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:hmm (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:hmm (Score:2)
Re:hmm (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:hmm (Score:2)
On the other hand, many of us would subscribe to a single channel if we could.
I, as an example, would happily pay for a SciFi channel subscription. Hell, I'd pay 1/4 to 1/2 of what a cable package would cost me. Instead, I'm left using Bi
Re:hmm (Score:2)
Re:hmm (Score:5, Informative)
???
Have you looked at the BitTorrents or P2P networks lately?
The question is being asked millions of times a day. No one's had a good answer yet, but the question is being asked.
Re:hmm (Score:2)
Channels (Score:2)
Google gets lots and lots of hits for people who simply search for a domain by entering the domain name... Why?
This is exactly Google's/search's strength. Ask, and thou shall receive.
Re:hmm (Score:2)
Re:hmm (Score:2)
Apparently no porn (Score:2)
Re:Apparently no porn (Score:2)
Re:Versus (Score:2)
Re:Has anyone noticed... (Score:2)
Re:here's an idea... (Score:2, Insightful)
You see, Larry Page and Sergey Brin have billions...why? Because they had these philosophies that they supposedly adhered to. So I may not have given them $'s directly, but I've given them 2 things far more valuable...my trust, and my time. And from those, they got their $billions.
"It's best to do one thing really, really well. Google does search. Google does not do horoscopes, financial advice or chat."
No comment on the fact that they couldn't keep themselves from doing everything bu