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Next, they'll remove "Computer" and "Documents". Leaving you to navigate a virtual quagmire of ""'s and the ever elusive "". Crazy "" always where least expect it. Right beneath "".
What's funny about this is that the same people who needed to be coaxed into using a computer by prefixing common icons with "My" will now further be confused because they will think that the folder is somehow different in its function.
"But that's not *my* Videos, it must be someone elses. Doesn't that have to do with it being multi-user?"
Actually, that's the next step. They get us used to just "Computer" and "Documents", then they'll change to "Our Computer" and "Our Documents" as they gradually take control of everything on the computer. Then the ultimate in simplification. You'll boot the computer and, instead of icons, you get:
[faced with a 20th century computer] Scotty [imdb.com]: Computer. Computer?
[Bones hands him a mouse and he speaks into it] Scotty [imdb.com]: Hello, computer. Dr. Nichols [imdb.com]: Just use the keyboard. Scotty [imdb.com]: Keyboard. How quaint.
Actually, it's a great PR move. I've currently got 'my' computer at home named, 'my frustration,' and the network neighborhood named, "my networked frustrations"... My naming conventions are going to be broken now, I dunno what I'm going to do. 'Frustration' is just so cloyingly poetic I can't bring myself to use it, and I've lost the irony in 'my frustration,' so I'm at a loss.
Maybe I'll be able to switch OS's by the time Longhorn comes out and still play all the games I want to play now.
Ohhhh, I get it, built in P2P folders for "Pictures" , "Videos" and "Music". Now it all makes sense. And with industry-leading Microsoft security. (I didn't say WHAT industry... haw haw!)
Ohhhh, I get it, built in P2P folders for "Pictures" , "Videos" and "Music". Now it all makes sense.
Hey, don't laugh! Back in the days of Windows 95, some enterprising individuals figured out how to share files over the Internet using SMB folder sharing. I forget how it worked (probably a publicly available workgroup controller), but you would be able to see other Internet users under "Network Neighborhood". It was tons of fun browsing people's computers to see what they had available. Some people even se
Ah, yeah. I had to grab some files off my PC at work, I opened a VPN connection there, went Start->Run , typed (for example) \\10.10.10.20\myfiles.
More than a meg of traffic went over that VPN before the windows was populated with (ten) icons.
SMB SUCKS. It's terribly ineffient. You might as well convert the binary to ASCII, ie 1010110110101 and then XML it, ie <BinaryDigit Value="1"/><BinaryDigit Value="0"/>... and then FTP it. You'd
You do realize its not real, right? Its just an entertaining movie? That scene was hilarious.
What, his typing speed is what actually bothered you? How about his instant knowledge of MAC molecular modeling software, knowing the entire mac interface, making invisibile aluminum, etc. etc. THAT all made sense, but how did he type so fast?
And we all know you can travel in time by flying around the sun! And that giant whale creatures fly through space and kill planets....
But man - theres NO WAY he could type that fast! Its all bullshit I tell you!
The thought of having your operating system "expire" on you if you don't pay a renewal fee (the ultimate DRM concept) is rather frightening, to say the least. I think that would actually be something disturbing enough to your average person to get them to consider alternative operating systems.
If they ever manage subscription-only operating systems, it would be tempting to make a "Donnie Darko" theme with an animated background: a scrawled-on arm whose numbers count down till the end of your license.
The thought of having your operating system "expire" on you if you don't pay a renewal fee (the ultimate DRM concept) is rather frightening, to say the least. I think that would actually be something disturbing enough to your average person to get them to consider alternative operating systems.
DEC/Compaq/HP have been doing that for years. If you let your VMS OS and application licenses lapse, the system locks you out. You can only login on the system console, the network stack won't load (due to expired license), and any licensed apps won't run. Its been done before, is being done, and will continue to be done for quite some time.
> If you let your VMS OS and application licenses lapse
I call bullshit. You could get (usually free) time limited evaluation licenses, but if you purchased a regular license there was no termination date on it. Hence it didn't "lapse".
You could check this by looking at the license with the LICENSE utility ($ LIC LIST/FULL <license name>). Look for the line with "termination date", like this:
PAK Termination Date: (none)
That's not to say that proprietary software and restrictive
I want to kill the man who decided that applications should go in "Program Files". I hate typing that out, especially when tab-completion is not available. In general, I hate long-ass multiword folder names. Keep it short and simple, or I'll put my boot up your ass. Hmmm, "My Bootupyourass". Yes, that definitely has potential. *runs off trademark it*
Personally, I'm happy to see MS getting rid of spaces in common file names. Hopefully they will continue the trend and not have "Program Files", "Documents and Settings" and all the other folders which need to be quoted or otherwise referenced using special characters. (e.g., progra~1).
With the new DRM lockdown mechanisms maybe they want to break their customers of thinking of the machine as their own:) I imagine "My Computer (except for the parts the MPAA and RIAA own) was too long to fit in the explorer window easily.
Whenever someone uses the argument "if open source kills commercial software, it will also kill innovation," now I know what they're talking about. My attitudes have changed. Long live commercial software.
It wasn't really useful nor did it make it easier for people to understand. (Especially when they were on someone else's computer). It was just an extra space to make it harder to program for and use the DOS prompt.
I have to say that I always founf it very annoying how Windows constantly seems to shift where they think documents should go with each release, at one point being under the Windows directory...
Hopefully this sigals the last time these folders chage location/name. Then perhaps people would start to use them. I always use the default Documents/Music/Pictures folders on OS X but over the years I have avoided using the Windows equivilent because I knew it would shift and I'd have to learn the new placement again.
Ah, but with the new SuperAmazingFantasticSearches (tm), you no longer need to worry about where you store documents at all. This is just the first step in phasing out directory names altogether.
Windows 3.1 didn't have a default "My Documents" folder type of thing. Windows 95, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that. Windows 98, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that. Windows ME, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that. Windows NT 4, c:\winnt\profiles\username\My Documents if I remember right, not sure. Home directory would be one level above. Windows 2000, c:\documents and settings\username\My Documents. Home directory would be one level above. Windows XP, c:\documents and settings\username\My Documents. Home directory would be one level above.
Now, how long as OSX been out? Since 2001 was it? Wouldn't that mean it isn't as old as Windows 2000? Gee, that'd make it where as long as OSX has been out, the My Docs directory under Windows has been the same, shouldn't it?
Look, if you are going to troll Windows subjects, at least get it right...
...do i get the feeling that this is indicative of their future liscensing practices? Is this going to be an OS that reminds us of liquor: you don't actually buy it, you just rent it? Their removal of 'my' has me worried that they are going to consider everything on your computer is simply rented from them...good thing im in love with Ubuntu...I don't have to worry about longhord screwing me.
Well, this will actually be helpful when I'm trying to help my dad over the phone. For the longest time, I'd say "double click on My Computer" and he'd ask why he's going to my computer instead of his.
They must have figured that, with so many Windows boxes overridden with trojans, spyware, adware, and zombie software that is being used to remotely send zillions of pieces of spam, *no one* can really say the computer is "theirs" anymore.
And wait until we rent our software. Then the concept of owning your computer will truly be a thing of the past.
Seriously? Why not drop that thing all together? It's usually used to represent your hard drive, right? I put sticky notes on my computer (and monitor)--I put electronic files on my hard drive.
I'm coming from a Mac perspective--am I way off base here?
Considering that probably half of all Windows users call either their floppy or CD-ROM drives their "hard drive," (most of the others call it their "memory") I'm guessing that would be a little too confusing for Granny Average.
Why is this a big deal? If you don't like the 'My' on there, change it yourself. I always edit the desktop icon names to 'This pooter' and 'Net hood', respectively. Or, if you're only accessing one network, use the workgroup name for the Network Neighborhood icon.
I mean, it's not rocket surgery or brain science, after all.
Fine, you know what you're doing, I rename them too (My Computer ->.box and My Network Places ->.net or something clever and non-default) see: One True Way [kde.org]. Not a big deal to you but a big deal to a teacher/instructor.
What about in a classroom where all the lab/learning computers are set up like this by default? It's confusing as hell.
"Class, double click on My Computer." "What do you mean Your Computer?" "No, I mean your My Computer." "What?!" "Click on the icon My Computer on Your Computer. *sigh
An appalling user-interface gaffe finally corrected.
I guess getting rid of the screwdriver and clawhammer folder for the Control Panel next would be too much to ask. Although I guess they are appropriate since most of the time when I run Windows I wish I had a hammer... to beat myself senseless with.
This follows Microsoft's new basic assertion that the computer and all its data belongs to Microsoft in the first place, therefore calling it "My Computer" is technically (and possibly legally) incorrect.
They were going to call it "Our Computer", but decided against it on the grounds that users might think they were sharing something, and didn't want there to be any confusion. Microsoft doesn't share anything.
(For the humorless: This is a joke. But it's funny because you know how close to the truth i
... since when a computer is shared between people it cannot be called "My Computer". The cyber café's box is not "My Computer".
Microsoft should check if there's more than one user registered in the machine and put an "Our Computer" label below the icon:-)
They're just finally admitting that between their EULA, the Dept of Homeland Security, and spyware, nobody actually owns or controls the MS Windows in their home or office.
I've been having to keep from hitting things every time I see and hear that 'My' crap.
It's just unnatural and fucking stupid. "Go to your My Documents folder", "Open your My Computer", and if you drop the 'your', they think you're talking about your own computer.. "Open My Computer".. "I can't get to it, where are you?"
Hey they should rescurrect MS Bob and call it "Bob's Computer" and "Bob's Documents" and "Bob's Network". And for a sidekick, MS Bob could have the little search puppy that we all know and love.
since it's only a matter of time until Microsoft owns your computer with Longhorn anyways. It won't be 'My Computer", and putting "Bill and Steve's Bitch" seemed a bit too offensive.
Why would they do this? Windows ME made me feel like it was a Windows all for ME, and they took that away, and now this? Windows isn't making me feel very special anymore.
every user will end up with "My Documents" directory right beside the "Documents" one? I already have "Moje Dokumenty" (original name by Windows with polish localization) and "My Documents" right next to it, created by some dumb program. Windows resides on D:, but of course there's "Program Files" with something in it on 510MB FreeDOS C: partition. I cleaned up the Start Menu so there's just "Aplikacje" and whatever created "Applications" went there. Sure there are system variables that default to proper directories. Just not every application uses them.
On Mac OS special folders could be named anything and be anywhere (futeure-proofing and localisation-safe). Applications just tell the OS that something needs to go into whichever special folder it needs to go in. So it's not impossible to create an elegant solution, just not possible for Microsoft to do it.
Windows can do this, too. Applications are supposed to use the SHGetSpecialFolderpath() API to get the localization-friendly, drive-letter-independent path to special folders like "My Documents". Of c
This change will obviously be the heart of longhorn. All the other features they've thrown out by now (grin)
Is it just me, or does this sound like a PR unit leaking little bits of stuff over the months to the press in an effort to keep Longhorn in the news? I imagine we'll be hearing more little "gems" like this as the year proceeds.
That god for that! How was I ever supposed to take my job seriously when the PC I worked on not only felt like a toy, but a toy for particularly young kids. If you're an engineer, say, you might start out with Lego Duplo, but eventually you move on to tools that feel like they're made for adults. But for software engineers using Windows PCs was almost embarassing - the only thing stopping it being embarassing was that everyone else had the same stupid patronizing shit on their desktops too. And they had the cheek to call the OS Windows XP Professional.
I've always said that since W2K MS have produced a very capable operating system held back by an interface designed with nothing but contempt for users.
You're kidding, right? It's not like that, at all.
What you've basically described is MacOS 7 or so. Simple, to the point, and nothing but functional. There are simply too many options on computers for modern users (I know; I do phone tech support, and you would not believe how many people are confused by the simplest of computer/Windows operational things like "Shutting down", "restarting", or "right clicking").
If cars were designed to the complexity of Windows, you would have three different ways to turn
Or at least did when I used windows. I dropped "My" and "Neighborhood" from all desktop icons. I believe this is the first Longhorn feature I have no issues with.:-)
Reading the posts, I was surprised there weren't more suggestions for a more reasonable or intuitive directory organization, e.g, perhaps "/home/USER" for instead of "Documents and Settings/blah blah blah". The "Documents and Settings" paradigm seems to be confusing enough to baffle even the software application providers.
Many times I've had to traverse the hell that is "Documents and Settings" just to find where some misguided application has dropped my latest "Untitled n" masterpiece. Sometimes, I never find it.
My solution, for myself, and for others I do support for has been to actually create a "/home/USER" where USER is... Then I show users how to set up their software to point to that directory or any subdirectories they've chosen to create. So far, they've all thanked me.
I'm guessing there'll be a bit of flaming at me along the lines of "The standard isDocuments and Settings...", but as I mentioned at the outset, educating me, your friends, etc. isn't enough... I've seen off-the-shelf software misuse or completely miss the paradigm.
So, hopefully, this will be fixed too... (while "/home" may be imperfect... what exactly does "Documents and Settings" represent? Especially as Microsoft begins to move more and more to an "object" model.)
Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:2)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:4, Funny)
Oh the irony (Score:5, Insightful)
"But that's not *my* Videos, it must be someone elses. Doesn't that have to do with it being multi-user?"
Re:Oh the irony (Score:3, Funny)
Once again, MS is undermining justice in this country...
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
"Collective" (old "Network neighbourhood")
"Contact with the masses" (old "Internet" -> MSIE)
Toss in a red-and-yellow UI theme, a sicle&hammer icon and the Internationale playing in the background...
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:2)
OR with the new DRM schemes it will soon be:
"Their Computer" (old Our computer)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, that's the next step. They get us used to just "Computer" and "Documents", then they'll change to "Our Computer" and "Our Documents" as they gradually take control of everything on the computer. Then the ultimate in simplification. You'll boot the computer and, instead of icons, you get:
All your base are belong to us.
Obligatory Star Trek IV Quote... (Score:2)
[faced with a 20th century computer]
Scotty [imdb.com]: Computer. Computer?
[Bones hands him a mouse and he speaks into it]
Scotty [imdb.com]: Hello, computer.
Dr. Nichols [imdb.com]: Just use the keyboard.
Scotty [imdb.com]: Keyboard. How quaint.
Re:Obligatory Star Trek IV Quote... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:2)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:2)
Maybe I'll be able to switch OS's by the time Longhorn comes out and still play all the games I want to play now.
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
lemme get this straight... (Score:3, Funny)
Such arrogance, Bill!
Ohhhh, I get it, built in P2P folders for "Pictures" , "Videos" and "Music". Now it all makes sense. And with industry-leading Microsoft security. (I didn't say WHAT industry... haw haw!)
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:3, Insightful)
Shameful how they have to copy their ideas from Gnome isn't it?
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:3)
Microsoft names everything else "Microsoft XYZ", why not your computer? i.e.:
Microsoft Windows
Microsoft Word
Microsoft Excel
Microsoft Computer
Microsoft Documents
Microsoft Music
Microsoft Network Places
etc.
Of course, if they wanted to be REALLY evil, they could name it the "iOpener". (I always think of an electronic can opener when I hear that.)
Netscape vs. Microsoft (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:3, Informative)
Hey, don't laugh! Back in the days of Windows 95, some enterprising individuals figured out how to share files over the Internet using SMB folder sharing. I forget how it worked (probably a publicly available workgroup controller), but you would be able to see other Internet users under "Network Neighborhood". It was tons of fun browsing people's computers to see what they had available. Some people even se
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:3, Interesting)
Ah, yeah. I had to grab some files off my PC at work, I opened a VPN connection there, went Start->Run , typed (for example) \\10.10.10.20\myfiles.
More than a meg of traffic went over that VPN before the windows was populated with (ten) icons.
SMB SUCKS. It's terribly ineffient. You might as well convert the binary to ASCII, ie 1010110110101 and then XML it, ie <BinaryDigit Value="1"/><BinaryDigit Value="0"/>... and then FTP it. You'd
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:5, Funny)
Me: Can you right click on my computer
Them: [silence]
Me: Hello?
Them: How can I click on your computer?
Abbott, lemme get this straight... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:lemme get this straight... (Score:3, Funny)
It's a dairy farmer.
Re:Brilliant! Simply brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
You do realize its not real, right? Its just an entertaining movie? That scene was hilarious.
What, his typing speed is what actually bothered you? How about his instant knowledge of MAC molecular modeling software, knowing the entire mac interface, making invisibile aluminum, etc. etc. THAT all made sense, but how did he type so fast?
And we all know you can travel in time by flying around the sun! And that giant whale creatures fly through space and kill planets....
But man - theres NO WAY he could type that fast! Its all bullshit I tell you!
Uh oh... (Score:5, Funny)
No need to figure it out! (Score:3, Funny)
With patentened Weak Windows Security (tm), they are EVERYONES files!
My My... (Score:5, Interesting)
I guess it means that with the new DRM technology, it really IS no longer your computer.
Re:My My... (Score:2)
it really IS no longer your computer.
No, but I think that implies the computer is being 0wn3d. ;)
Re:My My... (Score:3, Interesting)
If they ever manage subscription-only operating systems, it would be tempting to make a "Donnie Darko" theme with an animated background: a scrawled-on arm whose numbers count down till the end of your license.
Re:My My... (Score:4, Interesting)
DEC/Compaq/HP have been doing that for years. If you let your VMS OS and application licenses lapse, the system locks you out. You can only login on the system console, the network stack won't load (due to expired license), and any licensed apps won't run. Its been done before, is being done, and will continue to be done for quite some time.
Re:My My... (Score:3, Informative)
I call bullshit. You could get (usually free) time limited evaluation licenses, but if you purchased a regular license there was no termination date on it. Hence it didn't "lapse".
You could check this by looking at the license with the LICENSE utility ($ LIC LIST/FULL <license name>). Look for the line with "termination date", like this:
PAK Termination Date: (none)
That's not to say that proprietary software and restrictive
Re:My My... (Score:3, Insightful)
I do. "My" annoyed me from the first time I saw Windows 95. "My" before everything is childish, superfluous, and not necessarily factual.
Re:or path issues...UGH! (Score:5, Interesting)
Quite an elegant way of doing it, imho.
Re:or path issues...UGH! (Score:3, Funny)
MOD +1 : Rimshot (Score:2)
Re:My My... (Score:2)
FYI - the letter "H" is spelled aitch [reference.com]... Just in case you ever need to spell out pee-aitch-dee again :-)
And in the next release... (Score:3, Funny)
And in the next release, they'll replace it with "Our".
--MarkusQ
Re:And in the next release... (Score:2)
Stuff that matters? (Score:2)
Re:Stuff that matters? (Score:2)
hmm (Score:2)
actually this is good, i hate those prefixes.
Getting rid of "my" because (Score:2)
HELP COMPUTER. (Score:2)
Stop all the downloadin'!
Wow, that's all I needed to hear! Longhorn for me! (Score:2)
No really seriously though. Now I can't say "My Computer!" in a big retarded voice whenever I have to double-click on it.
Really though, this is some big news, a drastic change like this to the windows UI hasn't happened since 3.1.
-Jesse
How Appropriate (Score:2)
A legal nuance... (Score:2, Flamebait)
Wow. (Score:2)
Good (Score:2)
Annoying inconsistancy of Windows document folders (Score:3, Insightful)
Hopefully this sigals the last time these folders chage location/name. Then perhaps people would start to use them. I always use the default Documents/Music/Pictures folders on OS X but over the years I have avoided using the Windows equivilent because I knew it would shift and I'd have to learn the new placement again.
Re:Annoying inconsistancy of Windows document fold (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Annoying inconsistancy of Windows document fold (Score:2)
*goes back to command prompt*
C:\cd C:\Documents and Settings\xxxxxx\Local Settings\Application Data\IsolatedStorage\32w4syu4.acn\21yxg0lq.lam\Pu
Re:Annoying inconsistancy of Windows document fold (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:More often than that (Score:5, Informative)
Windows 3.1 didn't have a default "My Documents" folder type of thing.
Windows 95, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that.
Windows 98, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that.
Windows ME, c:\My Documents; No real home directory other than that.
Windows NT 4, c:\winnt\profiles\username\My Documents if I remember right, not sure. Home directory would be one level above.
Windows 2000, c:\documents and settings\username\My Documents. Home directory would be one level above.
Windows XP, c:\documents and settings\username\My Documents. Home directory would be one level above.
Now, how long as OSX been out? Since 2001 was it? Wouldn't that mean it isn't as old as Windows 2000? Gee, that'd make it where as long as OSX has been out, the My Docs directory under Windows has been the same, shouldn't it?
Look, if you are going to troll Windows subjects, at least get it right...
For Accuracy (Score:2)
i.e. Pwned by BonziBuddy.
An applaudable step towards transparency from Microsoft.
Pip pip.
I suppose it's safe to say... (Score:2)
why.... (Score:2)
Good Idea. (Score:3, Funny)
Confused parents (Score:2)
Sigh.
that's right... (Score:2)
In related news... (Score:5, Funny)
Later, at a press conference, Steve Jobs announced the new, updated G5 eMy eioMac. Old MacDonald could not be reached for comment.
0wned (Score:2)
And wait until we rent our software. Then the concept of owning your computer will truly be a thing of the past.
My oh my. (Score:2)
Ah well, it was a myopic business plan at best.
Why do they still say "computer"? (Score:2)
I'm coming from a Mac perspective--am I way off base here?
Re:Why do they still say "computer"? (Score:2)
That will be a feature (Score:2)
Who cares? (Score:2)
I mean, it's not rocket surgery or brain science, after all.
Re:Who cares? (Score:3, Interesting)
What about in a classroom where all the lab/learning computers are set up like this by default? It's confusing as hell.
"Class, double click on My Computer."
"What do you mean Your Computer?"
"No, I mean your My Computer."
"What?!"
"Click on the icon My Computer on Your Computer. *sigh
Thank you! (Score:2)
This is following the new Microsoft standard (Score:2)
They were going to call it "Our Computer", but decided against it on the grounds that users might think they were sharing something, and didn't want there to be any confusion. Microsoft doesn't share anything.
(For the humorless: This is a joke. But it's funny because you know how close to the truth i
Improvement (Score:2)
Not an improvement to shell out cash for, but still an improvement
Make sense... (Score:2, Interesting)
Microsoft should check if there's more than one user registered in the machine and put an "Our Computer" label below the icon
...but more importantly (Score:2)
Makes sense... (Score:2)
Computer? (Score:2)
[RANT] About damn time (Score:2)
It's just unnatural and fucking stupid. "Go to your My Documents folder", "Open your My Computer", and if you drop the 'your', they think you're talking about your own computer.. "Open My Computer".. "I can't get to it, where are you?"
GAH
Of course they will. (Score:2)
finally (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft Bob? (Score:2)
Thankfully there's Linux.
only seems fitting (Score:2)
An end to a tech support nightmare. (Score:5, Funny)
Helpdesk: Double click on "My Computer"
User: I can't see your computer.
Helpdesk: No, double click on "My Computer" on your computer.
User: Huh?
Helpdesk: There is an icon on your computer labled "My Computer". Double click on it.
User: What's your computer doing on mine?
actually... (Score:2)
Sad (Score:2)
Fucking great (Score:2)
New MS Trademarks (Score:2)
Who wanna bet... (Score:5, Interesting)
I already have "Moje Dokumenty" (original name by Windows with polish localization) and "My Documents" right next to it, created by some dumb program.
Windows resides on D:, but of course there's "Program Files" with something in it on 510MB FreeDOS C: partition. I cleaned up the Start Menu so there's just "Aplikacje" and whatever created "Applications" went there. Sure there are system variables that default to proper directories. Just not every application uses them.
Re:Who wanna bet... (Score:3, Informative)
On Mac OS special folders could be named anything and be anywhere (futeure-proofing and localisation-safe). Applications just tell the OS that something needs to go into whichever special folder it needs to go in. So it's not impossible to create an elegant solution, just not possible for Microsoft to do it.
Windows can do this, too. Applications are supposed to use the SHGetSpecialFolderpath() API to get the localization-friendly, drive-letter-independent path to special folders like "My Documents". Of c
News for nerds. Stuff that matters, they said. (Score:3, Funny)
It would also be nice if they added "My Compiler" to the default install of the OS.
I can dream.
My Computer, Your Computer (Score:3, Insightful)
After all, it IS your computer, right?
This change will obviously be the heart of longhorn. All the other features they've thrown out by now (grin)
Is it just me, or does this sound like a PR unit leaking little bits of stuff over the months to the press in an effort to keep Longhorn in the news? I imagine we'll be hearing more little "gems" like this as the year proceeds.
We got our top minds on it. (Score:5, Funny)
Computers for Adults (Score:5, Interesting)
I've always said that since W2K MS have produced a very capable operating system held back by an interface designed with nothing but contempt for users.
Re:Computers for Adults (Score:3, Insightful)
What you've basically described is MacOS 7 or so. Simple, to the point, and nothing but functional. There are simply too many options on computers for modern users (I know; I do phone tech support, and you would not believe how many people are confused by the simplest of computer/Windows operational things like "Shutting down", "restarting", or "right clicking").
If cars were designed to the complexity of Windows, you would have three different ways to turn
So they think users have graduated from preschool (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, with all the security holes..... (Score:3, Funny)
Thank God, I've been doing this for years. (Score:3, Interesting)
small fix, need more! (Score:3, Interesting)
Reading the posts, I was surprised there weren't more suggestions for a more reasonable or intuitive directory organization, e.g, perhaps "/home/USER" for instead of "Documents and Settings/blah blah blah". The "Documents and Settings" paradigm seems to be confusing enough to baffle even the software application providers.
Many times I've had to traverse the hell that is "Documents and Settings" just to find where some misguided application has dropped my latest "Untitled n" masterpiece. Sometimes, I never find it.
My solution, for myself, and for others I do support for has been to actually create a "/home/USER" where USER is... Then I show users how to set up their software to point to that directory or any subdirectories they've chosen to create. So far, they've all thanked me.
I'm guessing there'll be a bit of flaming at me along the lines of "The standard is Documents and Settings...", but as I mentioned at the outset, educating me, your friends, etc. isn't enough... I've seen off-the-shelf software misuse or completely miss the paradigm.
So, hopefully, this will be fixed too... (while "/home" may be imperfect... what exactly does "Documents and Settings" represent? Especially as Microsoft begins to move more and more to an "object" model.)
A boon for Cygwin users (Score:3, Insightful)
cd /cygdrive/c/Documents\ and\ Settings/User/My\ Documents
Put that in your pipe and smoke it (Score:3, Funny)
So there!
Will they now simply be known as Crosoft now, by the way?