Firefox and Thunderbird 1.0.6 Released 352
micpp writes "Only a short time after the release of version 1.0.5, Mozilla has released version 1.0.6 of both Firefox and Thunderbird . This update fixes a bug in the browser and email program which prevented some extensions from working."
So... (Score:5, Insightful)
uuencode/decode. C'mon, support it. (Score:5, Insightful)
I tried messing around with the rules & such for newsgroups(filters?) but they never came close to working.
What Thunderbird really needs is to support uuencode/decode. Why does only Freeagent and some freeware newsreader support this, yet is wideley used on usenet? What's the difficulty here?
If Thunderbird supported that, it could steal some users away from the ungodly complicated FreeAgent.
Re:uuencode/decode. C'mon, support it. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:uuencode/decode. C'mon, support it. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:well... (Score:2)
Re:uuencode/decode. C'mon, support it. (Score:3, Informative)
That's what a killfile [imnsho.com] is for. Most newsreaders already support killfiles, and most newsreaders grow to the point where they support killfiles.
So... (Score:2)
That was certainly quick (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:That was certainly quick (Score:5, Informative)
(Mozilla's rating) Mozilla's description of vulneraility, Date reported to Mozilla
(High) Content-generated event vulnerabilities: April 11, 2005
(Low) XBL scripts ran even when javascript disabled: May 2, 2005
(High) Code execution via "Set as Wallpaper": May 3, 2005
(Low) Same-origin violation with InstallTrigger callback: May 8, 2005
(High) Script injection from Firefox sidebar panel using data: May 13, 2005
(Critical) Code execution through shared function objects: May 19, 2005
(Moderate) Possibly exploitable crash in InstallVersion.compareTo: May 28, 2005
(Moderate) The return of frame-injection spoofing: June 6, 2005
(Moderate) Same origin violation: frame calling top.focus(): June 6, 2005
(Critical) Standalone applications can run arbitrary code through the browser: June 20, 2005
(Low) javascript prompt origin spoofing: June 26, 2005
(High) XHTML node spoofing: June 27, 2005
Re:That was certainly quick (Score:3, Insightful)
Three cheers for rushing patches out quickly with proper regression testing to avoid having to re-release with bug fixes.
Perhaps people might have some understanding of why Microsoft don't release patches 2 days after someone tells them about a vulnerability. Frankly, if I was a corporate Firefox user that had started testing Firefox for deployment, I'd be a little pissed about having to start all over again with the new version.
RELEASE CYCLE!!! (Score:5, Funny)
and of course (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:and of course (Score:5, Informative)
In a couple of days people can autoupdate or use the little blue xmas tree.
Re:and of course (Score:2)
I've noticed that I've never seen an auto-update for Thunderbird - does Thunderbird not support this?
Re:and of course (Score:3, Informative)
Re:and of course (Score:3)
Re:and of course (Score:2)
For small files with few fast servers, the download would end before ordinary peers start sending or requesting anything... ordinary peers will not request data from
Re:and of course (Score:3, Informative)
Opera and Bittorrent (Score:2, Informative)
Re:and of course (Score:2)
What really irks me... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What really irks me... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:What really irks me... (Score:4, Informative)
It says "Extenions A and B may not be compatible with Firefox version XYZ and will be disabled".
Also, about:config -> app.extension.version
Set that to a low number (1.0 for example) and it won't even ask to disable them.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
Exactly - it just disables them outright, not giving you the chance to say no.
I'll give the app.extension.version a try, though, when the en-gb release is available.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
Seems like a good idea, since the Firefox/mozilla developers can't vouch for the quality of extensions people have installed... What happened if a popular extension like Adblock caused a newly installed version of firefox to hang the first time it's loaded....... ya, thousands of people screaming at the devs wondering what the hell is wrong with FF
Re:What really irks me... (Score:4, Interesting)
What is wrong with ff is that it is setup in such a way that extensions can have it hang. People should be 'screaming at the devs' about this.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:3, Informative)
What is wrong with ff is that it is setup in such a way that extensions can have it hang. People should be 'screaming at the devs' about this.
Every plugin system has this problem. You either give the plugins access to the inner workings, or you don't. If it crashes and burns, tough. The extension dev should've tested more, or the extension was written for an older FF and can't cope with the new one. Really, the current system is pretty good given the circumstances.
It happened to me several times. I di
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2, Informative)
I understand these are all bug fixes, but it is getting old having to manually install each time as well. The update tool usually hangs on everything but extensions.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:3, Insightful)
Which is better? I don't know. I use some of each. I'm running Firefox on an XP box right now. But I use Cygwin for remote applications from a Li
Re:What really irks me... (Score:3, Informative)
I'm also using cygwin and have a full office setup with ltsp & kde (the server is really modest hardware - athlon 2000) and they don't have refresh problems.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
Some programs hang or take forever to update the screen, to get certain things to finish in my lifetime, I have to disconnect my VNC session and reconnect - just so the screen updates fix it.
Tight VNC got the same issues.
VNCing into a DSL'd Linux box is glacially slow. It's horrible.
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
Re:What really irks me... (Score:2)
www.nomachine.com
Thunderbird version increases from 1.0.2 to 1.0.6? (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:Thunderbird version increases from 1.0.2 to 1.0 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Thunderbird version increases from 1.0.2 to 1.0 (Score:5, Funny)
Thunderbird version increase from 1.0.2 to 1.0.6 (Score:3, Interesting)
What I was trying to figure out was why someone felt it necessary to synchronize the versions of Firefox and Thunderbird. After all, if you do that, in the future you'll either get them out of step again, or kept artificially in-step. By artificially, I mean that when critical changes are needed for one package, a corresponding copy of the other will be released whether it needs changes or not; or critical changes for one package will be stalled for release until similar changes are required to the other
Re:Thunderbird version increase from 1.0.2 to 1.0. (Score:3, Informative)
Fixing extensions (Score:4, Interesting)
(yes, I know there's a way to fix firesomething, but I haven't had time and it's just annoying to install an extension to get an error saying that it's for an older version)
Re:Fixing extensions (Score:2)
I just got 1.0.6 and I'm glad to report that Lightningdonkey is working just fine. Although I wasn't refering to the firesomething extension only. I was commenting on the slew of decent, if not actually good extensions that have been lost in the dust bin of 0.8 - 1.0PR obsolescence.
Re:Fixing extensions (Score:2)
I'm still at 1.04? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I'm still at 1.04? (Score:5, Informative)
Stealing Microsoft's innovations... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Stealing Microsoft's innovations... (Score:2, Funny)
But they didn't steal the innovations Internet Explorer is most well-known for, like the heuristic logic to crash in an apparently random manner at the most annoying moments.
I really miss features like that when using Firefox!
Re:Stealing Microsoft's innovations... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Stealing Microsoft's innovations... (Score:3, Insightful)
The ultimate test (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The ultimate test (Score:2, Informative)
I just got about 350KB/s download of the browser from moz..
Re:The ultimate test (Score:2)
Mirrors? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Mirrors? (Score:2)
Re:Mirrors? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mirrors? (Score:2)
Or a security risk?
Doesn't help the auto update doesn't find the security upgrades and even the "Check Now" manual update button gives an error saying no updates are available.
Automatic updater (Score:5, Insightful)
Why can't more programs these days have automatic updates? Firefox does in theory. It'll check for new updates, then download the new version and start the installer for you and then break your install. Not the updating experience I'm looking for.
Why can't software updates operate more like Eclipse's [eclipse.org] update tool? Or Sun's Java update? Or Adobe reader's? Or dare I say it, Microsofts Windows update?
And yes, I'm lazy. This is supposed to be one of the menial tasks where computers replace people.
Re:Automatic updater (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Automatic updater (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Automatic updater (Score:4, Informative)
I use Debian with IceWM and after installing a package through apt or aptitude, if it's a GUI and sometimes character based, it will show immediately in the system menu. That's the Programs selection in the IceWM menu. No restarting IceWM required. Debian does the same thing for KDE. This has been the case for at least the past few years so I would say that, at least in Debian's case, it's pogressed well beyond MS Windows circa '93.
So, maybe you're just using an immature distribution or your facts aren't quite what you thought they were.
Re:Criticism = Troll (Score:2)
Apt-get already handles updates for all apps on the system and new apps can add themselves by running their own update repository, which the user can either decide to use or decide not to use.
Apt-get also always adds the app to the menu. I believe Red Hat's
Re:Automatic updater (Score:2)
If your attention span permits, I suggest you scroll to the bottom and observe the date that menu was first uploaded to Debian.
Re:Automatic updater (Score:2)
In other news... (Score:2)
Message list and custom headers... (Score:3, Interesting)
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=294
Can anyone tell me if this kind of Spamassassin integration is possible?
Re:Message list and custom headers... (Score:2)
1.1 will solve these constant updates (Score:5, Informative)
1.1 very soon? (Score:2)
They had better hurry, summer is more than half over!
Re:1.1 will solve these constant updates (Score:5, Informative)
For those of you that cant go to mozilla.org (Score:3, Informative)
So how did the breaking of extensiosn get past QA? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So how did the breaking of extensiosn get past (Score:2)
It wasn't THAT obvious. I have about 20 extensions installed and the only annoyance I noticed was middle-click-open-in-new-tab not working once in a while, apparently at random. Friends of mine who have (far) fewer extensions never noticed anything was wrong with 1.0.5.
Plus, I suspect a dev might not have many extensions
Re:So how did the breaking of extensiosn get past (Score:2)
Firefox 1.05 broke so many extensions for me that I upgraded to the alpha build of Deer Park (Firefox 1.1), released the same day. That actually breaks fewer extensions than 1.05, and adds some cool features. Seems stable enough too, and it also has all the security fixes of Firefox 1.01 thru 1.06.
Re:So how did the breaking of extensiosn get past (Score:3, Informative)
We do make release candidates available several days before the release. Keep an eye on the Mozilla Quality blog for notices. You can also find notices on MozillaZine fairly consistently.
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And relax.... (Score:5, Informative)
...it's worth clarifying that this release fixes one, and only one bug.
There's no (known) security vulnerability [mozillazine.org] here, so if you're extension free, or see no effects, you can shrug this one off.
Re:And relax.... again... (Score:2)
No, honestly, relax; put the kettle on.
Firefox 1.0.5 was the first release since 1.0.4.
This is release 1.0.6
1.0.5 was released [mozillazine.org] on July 14th, six days ago.
My head hurts... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:My head hurts... (Score:3, Funny)
I use my last editor beta to edit its own source. (Score:3, Insightful)
Still, it's fun to test it in this way. Eating my own dogfood and all that makes it more obvious when I decide to shoot myself in the foot, or head.
Is this why they didn't bother... (Score:2)
Such a minor release (Score:2)
I wonder when Tbird will get the ability to "Always display images from " like Gmail has. We really need to add that feature, plus a few other convenience features.
sigh... (Score:2)
Yeah, I know, ignore the release version and install the nightly build. Which is the same fix suggested when 1.0.2 was released.
Is there a real changelog for Firefox? (Score:2)
Enterprise FF/TB Managment (Score:3, Interesting)
Anyone having touble with Amazon.com since 1.0.4? (Score:2)
Good, maybe popups are finally fixed.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Easiest example I could think of off the top of my head to show this is to search google for song lyrics and visit one of those sites.
WTF? They're always from fastclick and casalemedia and other shit that's already on the block list.
Also notice that even blocked domains for setting cookies (also from fastclick and casalemedia) are STILL able to set cookies.
Hopefully it's been fixed...
They are called Dhtml hover ads (Score:3, Informative)
We need to pester the FF people about it.
http://dhtml-menu.com/menu-demos/demo347.html [dhtml-menu.com]
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/ [maxdesign.com.au]
Not an issue? (Score:3, Informative)
"When upgrading, all your Extensions and Themes will be disabled. This is not an issue, but it may appear to be one..."
This may be a pretty serious issue. After I updated firefox, it wouldn't start. It turned out I was using the bookmarkshome extension, and I had my homepage set to the bookmarkshome page. Since the extension was disabled, the homepage couldn't be generated, which apparently prevented firefox from starting.
The only fix I could find was to manually edit my prefs.js file and change homepage to something else. This is not a hard fix, but I think lot of people will not be able to figure this out. They will just say "hmm, I updated firefox and it doesn't even start, what a piece of #$%^".
Re:Check for updates... (Score:5, Funny)
I can see yours is already raised.
Re:Check for updates... (Score:2)
Slashdot renders correctly and the whole thing seems faster and neater.
Re:Check for updates... (Score:2)
Which is good to hear, but it also crashes every once in a while. Which I find unacceptable at work and annoying at home. Kudos to DP, but I'll wait for the stable 1.1 release.
Re:Check for updates... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:British language version late (Score:2)
I'm sure you wouldn't want the same guys doing the translations for every language. think of the errors!
Re:British language version late (Score:2)
Umm, get the source [mozilla.org], and contribute back the diffs?
(See also http://www.mozilla.org/projects/intl/ [mozilla.org] fro more...)
Re:I still prefer classic mozilla to firefox (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I still prefer classic mozilla to firefox (Score:2)
still prefer using classic mozilla (writing this inside mozilla 1.8 beta) to firefox, because last time I checked firefox (been a while), it was so low on features.
Though your post is a bit trollish, there are a few who are with you in prefering the suite. Mozilla is my desktop as far as the internet is concerned. Now that they want to force everyone to use seperate apps I really have a hard time justifying keeping just yet another browser around. Konq keeps getting better with every KDE release and Kmai
Re:To all complaining about the "update", or lack (Score:4, Funny)
Re:To all complaining about the "update", or lack (Score:2)
Re:To all complaining about the "update", or lack (Score:2)
I like your attitude. Keep it up.
Re:To all complaining about the "update", or lack (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This Is Nearly As Irritating As Microsoft Now (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, well, avoiding memory leaks is Programming 101 (or at least 102).
I used to use Opera. I switched to Firefox and Thunderbird to finally have a completely free, un-ad-supported browser and email client. And actually I find Firefox crashes less than Opera did, especially with the Register site which used to crash Opera regularly.
But I save images regularly from the Net, and after a few hundred image saves, Firefox becomes almost unusable and must be restarted, which indicates a serious memory leak to m