Researchers Create Radio Controlled Humans 262
utherdoul writes "Say goodbye to remote-controlled cars, say hello to remote-controlled people. Forbes.com (disclosure: I work there) sent a lucky reporter (further disclosure: I am jealous it was not me) to the SIGGRAPH computer graphics conference in Los Angeles, where NTT researchers debuted a device designed to exploit the effects of Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation. As the story explains, when a weak electrical pulse is delivered to the mastoid behind your ear, your body responds by shifting your balance towards it. If the current is strong enough, it not only throws you off balance, but alters the course of your movement. Reading about it really doesn't do it justice -- you have to check out the crazy
video of a remotely controlled woman. (Realvideo)"
Great .. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Great .. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Great .. (Score:2, Funny)
Remote-control women? (Score:5, Funny)
Careful what you wish for.. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Careful what you wish for.. (Score:3, Funny)
Sir, you owe me a coffee and a new keyboard.
Re:Careful what you wish for.. (Score:2)
Re:Remote-control women? (Score:2)
Re:Remote-control women? (Score:2, Insightful)
Come off it. There's no shortage of idiots in the world.
Re:Remote-control women? (Score:2)
Maybe it's 72 at any one time. Perhaps they rotate out, so you get a new batch of 72 every once in a while. And maybe you can multitask. Heaven may be more flexible than you think.
At least muslims have a travel brochure. Jews and Xians have intense views on what hell is like -- check out any Sunday morning megachurch broadcast -- but heaven is badly sketched in. As it stands, hell seems like it ha
Re:Remote-control women? (Score:2)
no more leashes or other low tech brat-controlling hardware.
maybe I will give parenthood a shot once this is working well enough... and scriptable through python...
The secret of the Nintendo Revolution... (Score:5, Funny)
Interesting application (Score:2, Interesting)
I wonder if it is painless. Except for the falling over, I mean.
Re:Interesting application (Score:2, Funny)
If you wanted to fight it (Score:5, Insightful)
It can't force you to walk anywhere, it justs makes you tip in one direction or the other, and your automatic walking reflex keeps you under your center of gravity.
The video didn't look all that "crazy". It was just a woman walking around with a dazed expression and silly grin. We can only assume she was under control of the remote.
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:3, Funny)
That's why they have a midget follow you around with a sharp pointy stick.
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:2)
I can't say for sure, but making a remote-controlled human might be as easy as putting one two probes in the brain - one to stimulate euphoria, the other disphoria. Then just call them on a cellphone a tell them what to do, and push the "nirvana" button to make them feel good about doing it. If they resist, push the "unbearable torment" button for a moment. There's no need for l
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:2)
I'm not aware of any powerful pleasure-inducing drugs that don't have these types of consequences. Even if one were immoral enough to enslave someo
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:2)
They say you should never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:2)
This research has some medical use; I can see it being used to treat persistent vertigo.
Re:If you wanted to fight it (Score:2)
For those who hate Real (Score:3, Informative)
I would buy that! (Score:5, Funny)
Unlike those dopey walking and dancying robots which I have no interest in, if Sony would just bring to market the "remote controlled goofy japanese cutey" I would buy one, heck I'd even go for two and get twin models -- they could remotely control each other when I get bored with doing it myself.
Re:I would buy that! (Score:2)
Re:I would buy that! (Score:2)
Re:I would buy that! (Score:2)
Or, imagine lining up 100 people on a field, making them walk in one direction, and then controlling them. Instant North Korean Parade!
connect a random generator to the controller (Score:2, Funny)
isn't sciense marvellous these days
Honey would you grab me a beer...? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Honey would you grab me a beer...? (Score:2, Interesting)
a) collect GPS readouts of the subject's path
b) provide way to create macros (manually navigate her from sofa to fridge, then use the system to automatically create a macro for reverse navigation fridge to sofa)
c) control your wife with few easy to use buttons
Sorry, but I am not finishing this with a "profit" list item...
Re:Honey would you grab me a beer...? (Score:2)
Your rights online (Score:2, Funny)
And send that woman right to my bed!
robots (Score:5, Funny)
mplayer command line (Score:4, Informative)
mplayer http://images.forbes.com//video/fvn/misc/radiocon
Re:mplayer command line (Score:2)
Re:mplayer command line (Score:2)
Re:mplayer command line (Score:2)
Works fine for me:
(some munging to remove "junk" characters to get past lameness filter)
parasite human (Score:4, Funny)
Is it just me or is this really sinister?
They also relate it to robotics research... human robots..
Also it looks like it should be easy to build into standard audio headphones.... perhaps they already have!.... dun dun DUHHHH!
Re:parasite human (Score:4, Informative)
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Interesting applications (Score:2)
- Computers that help people avoid falling down if they, for whatever reason, have lousy balance or slow reaction. Perhaps it could help older folks for whom falling down can be a serious risk.
- When the officer says "Walk on this line with one foot in front of the other," I'll say "Yes sir, anything you say, just let me put on my special balance-assist eyeglasses."
- A game like Dance Dance Revolution might use this to help teach you to get jig
Re:Interesting applications (Score:2, Interesting)
- Computers that help people avoid falling down if they, for whatever reason, have lousy balance or slow reaction. Perhaps it could help older folks for whom falling down can be a serious risk.
Doubtful. You'd have to be able to perfectly compensate for the damage in order to cancel it out. It's like applying an
Re:Interesting applications (Score:2)
Sounds like you know a lot more about this stuff than most of the other /.-ers put together. Still, don't let your own circumstances limit your imagination when it comes to considering possibilities.
Re:Interesting applications (Score:2)
Better yet, now we can finally design those 60' tall mechanical robot-tanks without the pesky requirement to put the operator pretty much exactly at the center of mass. or even in the robot any more. This has exciting possibilities in the field of robots made of lions.
Prayer (Score:2)
Better than Previous Efforts. (Score:2, Funny)
Nothing new (Score:3, Informative)
Alternative video link (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Alternative video link (Score:2)
seriously that video is 256x144 15.00fps.. is it from 1995?!
Re:Mod Parent Down! (Score:2)
But it's funny as hell. But I guess you're the one who has been moderating everyone as flamebait, redundant and offtopic eh? Too bad you're out of mod points today...
Push the tempo, push the tempo...
Control muscles directly. (Score:3, Interesting)
There's a (crazy?) artist who has a show, where he do this. Once he danced a synchronized dance, with an industrial robot. Other times he has benne "dancing" to the response times of the internet (lag).
Now this technology has been explored to see if people can be remotely operated. This could be used to allow people in the field to operate on a patient, remotely controlled by a doctor. Now the doctor is controlling the person in the other end in the same way. Here sensors read the electrical current in his muscles as he moves his hands.
So far the sensibility to do surgery is not possible, but major movement like moving an arm or closing a hand has been successful.
Others have already mentioned the possibility of remote sex. Here your partner can control your arms and hands in the same way as you may control his or hers...
Remote sex (Score:2)
Re:Control muscles directly. (Score:2)
Re:Control muscles directly. (Score:2)
Dang, why didn't I preview the first time?
Re:Control muscles directly. (Score:2)
See "The Day the Icicle Works Closed", Frederik Pohl, 1959.
Quick summary: it's about a world where people rent out their bodies to tourists. Unlike the tech from the article, though, they don't sit like a prisoner inside their bodies while they're being remote-controlled. It does mention remote sex, though...
Re:Control muscles directly. (Score:2)
Yeah, a friend and I used to do this with an electronic barbeque ignition. You could find all sorts of points on the body to stick it and click it, resulting in a muscle twitch. We would compete to see who could get the most movement.
(We were bored working at an animation company waiting for our Amiga 4000 to render test frames).
Anyways, while that was cool, this is a
But we see this at the airport all the time... (Score:5, Funny)
Dean Koontz' Demon Seed (Score:2)
Come on, what kind of geeks are you?
They haven't installed the hands... (Score:2)
I want to know how well it handles stairs.
Wow (Score:2)
Commentary Translation (Score:2)
It's worth pointing out that it's bloody difficult to translate, given some of the expressions
Usage ??? (Score:2)
I propose a game... (Score:2)
Too lame.. THIS is a much better remote control! (Score:3, Funny)
This is NOT remote control (Score:5, Interesting)
The effect is good enough for video games, though -- as part of the demo they put you in front of a driving sim, and use the device to simulate the centripetal force when you go around corners. It was pretty cool.
For most people, it seemed to be painless, but after a little while my skin started to sting where the electrodes where attached.
Re:This is NOT remote control (Score:3, Interesting)
I have a fair amount of experience throwing off my vestibular canals and ignoring them (pilot, flew aerobatics on the competition circuit for a few years). I tried to walk in a straight line while the device was trying to have me do otherwise. It was *extremely* difficult, but not impossible.
The feeling of lateral acelleration (where none was actually present) was very convincing.
I also thought this was one of the cooler things in the emerging technologies section at siggraph.
Prison Applications (Score:2, Funny)
Then the ACLU complains.
I won't be impressed... (Score:2)
I suggested this about a year ago (Score:2)
Prisoner Control-o-matic of the future ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Although a recent development, there's still time to get prototypes out to existing cases say, Martha Stewart or suspected terrorists (nothing makes bomb-making trickier than a lack of balance induced long range by powerful shortwave random radio bursts). Of course, this could stimulate a resurgence of the tin-foil hat market.
What is it with the Japanese and remote control of things? Years ago there was an experiment where they controlled cockroach movement via implants. Frankly, there is something vaguely horrifying about the video despite, or perhaps because of, the girl's giggling.
Evolution? ...Upping the Ante from Roaches (Score:2)
Forbes? (Score:2)
I am not your remote-controlled consumer! I am a MAN! *zzzap* must. buy. new car.
I saw it, would't try it. (Score:2)
I will say, it's pretty amazing to see people vear off to one side while walking. It's really interesting to see more than one person at a time wear these - syncronized stumbling.
I tried it... (Score:2)
I tried it at SIGGraph last week and here is teh deal. As others mentioned, it only changes your sense of gravity, it does actually control how or where you walk. But with the change in gravity, your stubble in one direction or the other.
Where this really has an application is in video games and other immersive environments. They had a demo with a large screen race track where you could feel the centripetal force during the turns.
But the skin contact for the electrical stimulation is not ideal. In the r
Drunk stablizer Helmet! (Score:3, Funny)
Put a gyroscope (or heck a simple level would probably work) inside a helmet as a balance sensor and have the electric nodes stimulate the opposite side that the drunk tilts toward.
That way, the drunk can keep his/her balance as they walk home.
I tried it (Score:3, Interesting)
Large deviations?? (Score:2, Interesting)
GVS 2 [nih.gov]
GVS 3 [nih.gov]
(disclosure: I am Carlsen on the papers
Researcher Told Me It Just Uses D.C. Current (Score:2)
I didn't ask if the polarity of the D.C. current matters (+ above -, or vice versa), but I think it just stimulates one ear or the
I tried it; I liked it. (Score:2)
Anyway, the experience consisted of putting on these modified headphones (speakers were removed; electrodes were added behind the ears), wearing the remote-control pack, and waiting for someone to twist the joystick. When that happened, it felt like the floor was
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Load it in IE and it asks if you want RV or WMP!
Grr
AVI direct link (Score:5, Informative)
RAM [forbes.com]
Re:Real? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Re:Real? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Real? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Re:Real? (Score:2, Insightful)
On the Mac it runs great.
Real questions before installing Real (Score:4, Insightful)
2) Does it install an icon to the tasktray?
3) How many desktop icons does it install?
4) How many processes does it startup on boot?
5) Does it integrate the codec into the operating system so that any codec-aware player can use it?
6) How much data does it send back to Real's servers?
7) Is the installation process simple and straightforward with a single checkbox to opt-in? Or is it a long series of dialog boxes with hidden checkboxes all over the place?
8) Does it play videos inline in the browser?
9) When I close the player (assuming it requires opening the player to watch the media), does it try to stay memory resident?
10) Is it still Real that makes this? (this is a deal breaker)
Re:Real questions before installing Real (Score:5, Informative)
It associates itself with all the "popular" file extensions.
2) Does it install an icon to the tasktray?
Like it's 1995, yes.
3) How many desktop icons does it install?
just a Upgrade to Real Player Professional shortcut
4) How many processes does it startup on boot?
one to reclaim its file associations every 20 seconds. one to keep a tray icon visible at all times. one to check for updates. and one that sends "usage statistics" back to Real. all 4 are added to the startup registry everytime the player is launched.
5) Does it integrate the codec into the operating system so that any codec-aware player can use it?
Of course not. That would make it too easy to compare against other codecs.
6) How much data does it send back to Real's servers?
Just what your watching, when your watching it and the location of your mouse cursor.
7) Is the installation process simple and straightforward with a single checkbox to opt-in? Or is it a long series of dialog boxes with hidden checkboxes all over the place?
It's completely automated with a final messagebox stating that your computer will now be rebooted and a single OK button.
8) Does it play videos inline in the browser?
Sometimes.
9) When I close the player (assuming it requires opening the player to watch the media), does it try to stay memory resident?
It tries, but then it throws a general protection fault and takes your instance of explorer with it.
10) Is it still Real that makes this? (this is a deal breaker)
All development was outsourced to India.. although I hear the new version was outsourced to Russia
4 Insightful not 5 Funny? (Score:2)
No I'm not new here, sigh....
P.S. wickedly Funny though.
Re:Vicious (Score:2)
You sir, are funny!
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Codec Packs = dangerous! Use with caution! When in doubt, grab a copy of G-Spot, figure out what codec the file uses, and download just that codec.
Re:Real? (Score:2)
Re:In Mother Russia (Score:2)
Re:Isn't this what they use to control Dick Cheney (Score:5, Funny)
And your lying if you disagree with me.
Re:Ooh, a wedding gift for me! (Score:2)
Re:US perfected it a long time ago. (Score:2)
Re:A flight sim on your couch (Score:2)
While I think this is cool and all I doubt the world needs more things that motivate people to spend time on the couch so to speak.
Perhaps a portable game where you have to fight the system by walking and running?
Nope, balance Denhancer !.. (Score:3, Interesting)
In Judo, when you grab the opponent collar, this is where you put the bone on the back of your thumb to induce (more or less forcibly) a reflexive movement in the direction you wish (on beginners) or a conscient counter-pressure from intermediate fighters , so as to then accentuate the move and throw him/her/it somewhere on his back.
You get an instinctive reaction to avoid pressure on this point, so your body, in trying to protect you,