Logitech Unveils Smart Mouse 377
Rob writes "Computer business Review is reporting that Logitech International, one of the world's
largest makers of mice and keyboards, has added to its already large range of peripherals
with a new mouse that can receive and process wireless communications from a PC. The new
fangled mouse is capable of two-way communication with the PC, it can inform users when
their mouse battery is low, and
notify them when they receive an email or instant message. Other features include
laser tracking, 10 buttons, volume control and probably too many other things."
Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
The monitor? OK.
Speakers? Sure.
Mouse!? Come on. What would it do? Jiggle slightly?
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, it's hardly new.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Insightful)
This is particularly pointless. Who looks at their mouse while using it?
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Interesting)
There may be some good uses for it though. Notifying the user that he must take an anti-RSI break springs to mind as one good use. Possibly a few others.
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
You probably haven't seen a Logitech mouse in a while now have you?
The MX1000 already featured no less than 8 buttons plus a tilt wheel, did indeed require you to install drivers to tune said buttons, and does fall back to extended PS2 (makes use of default action on some buttons, like MS mouses) when drivers are not installed.
610 will be the same.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Personally, I use a Starck mouse, even for gaming...of course, the only things I play on my PC are pretty much point and click type games that don't require much of the mouse, but still.
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Funny)
Yep, and when you get spammed it breaks your wrist.
Re:Why? unless its Porn Spam (Score:2, Funny)
What would it do? Jiggle slightly?
Yep, and when you get spammed it breaks your wrist.
unless it's porn spam. then it just humps your hand. or licks you.
Re:Why? (Score:4, Funny)
surely a vibrator is all about personal touches...?
dave
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
Now thats a good addition, not sure if anyone else has done it before, but I've never seen it.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
<aside> To: Logitech Re: Your stupid fucking drivers Body: I don't fucking need sensitivity switching or application switching. I want Mouse1, Mouse2, Mouse3, Mouse4, Mouse5, Mouse6, Mouse7, and Mouse8 all bind-able in game.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/technol ogy/documents/US/EN,CRID=1762,parentCRID=810 [logitech.com]
About the other features, while the new buttons are ... discusable (even though they pave the way for more interresting features, it's probably the first cordless mouse featuring 2ways communication)... such thing as the buttons, computer' power check (to go in standby or off mode), laser tracker (instead of the classical optical one) and BT-li
Re:Why? (Score:5, Interesting)
Personally I'd be happy with a mouse and keyboard which did what they're meant to without screwing up my machine with a bunch of apps and dlls that destablize the whole OS by running the entire type, installing hooks and "sniffing" for various things.
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
If there were genuinely useful reason for this I could understand, but not for a flashing light gimmick when you get an IM.
It actually helps a lot... (Score:3, Interesting)
This is useful to me because I usually have IM sound off (I have a lot going at once and it gets annoying as hell) and when I'm passing by my computer at home I can take a quick peek at my keyboard to see if I have any messages rather than go to the computer, turn on the monitor, unlock windows, and check my message windows.
Also when running full screen games or applicati
Re:It actually helps a lot... (Score:2)
Despite that, this kind of feedback is great. PCs need a wider array of 'generic output' devices which can be tailored to people's needs.
Re:It actually helps a lot... (Score:2)
Re:It actually helps a lot... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Mouse!? Come on. What would it do? Jiggle slightly?
well, afaik, it's a little light on the mouse that will come on when you have email, and I can see a point. I rarely turn my computer off, but I do turn the monitors off at night. the email light would inform me that I have some spam to delete without me needing to turn the monitor on.
if it's the same mouse that I'm thinking of, it also has a light to inform you if you ha
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Because I (Score:2)
On the other hand, if this intelligent mouse turns itself off when the computer goes into standby - then yes, it is completely pointless.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
All in software, mind you!
Done before at Princeton. (Score:4, Funny)
And they needed one of this [biconet.com] to trap some of the rodents that used its new superior skills to escape.
Re:Done before at Princeton. (Score:2, Funny)
10 buttons? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:10 buttons? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:10 buttons? (Score:5, Interesting)
Gosh, it hasn't even been a month since the last Logitech Slash-vertisment. So I can quote my last rant about the buttons on newer Logitech mice [slashdot.org]:
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I have an old Logitech M-BA47 from around 2000. It has a nice thumb button right where I rest my thumb (i.e low). When I first hooked it up, XFree86 mapped it as another middle button. I was happy with that so I never looked into changing it. It works great for me under Linux. Pasting text or opening links in new tabs is a matter of simply pressing with my thumb. And I never liked pressing down on the mouse wheel because it can turn unless you're careful about applying the pressure (or at least that's what I'm thinking about whenever I have to do it on other mice). Pressing the thumb button is so much easier.
Then earlier this year, my mum took pity on me still using a non-optical mouse and got me a Logitech MX500 mouse. Bleh. For a start, I had to hunt around a lot of web pages to figure out how to map the buttons the way I like. Then I realised the stupidity of having two (not one) thumb buttons, making them thin, and placing them up on the rim of the mouse. So now I not only had to move my thumb, I had to be careful to hit the right one, and I had to apply more pressure because they were much smaller. Think about it, the left and right mouse buttons are nice big pads you can rest your fingers on, so why make the other buttons so small and hard to hit?
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Re:10 buttons? (Score:2, Insightful)
Two way communication? (Score:5, Insightful)
As for telling me when I get email... isn't that what the screen and sound cards are for? I don't own a PC, or run linux, but I'm guessing that these operating systems already have a system for telling you when you've got mail too.
10 buttons? Meh. I've got 113 keys right next to my mouse. I have two hands, so I find that I can press these buttons whilst I'm using the mouse.
Re:Two way communication? (Score:2)
So, any news on a mouse that doesn't build up nasty greese stains on the buttons?
Re:Two way communication? (Score:2)
A few other ideas. The speakers in your monitor are garbage. Rather than throw 60$ in the trash on a crap mouse, buy speakers. You can keep them out of the way, and maybe buy a monitor that isn't annoyingly shaped by virtue of it not having speakers.
Also, there tends to be plenty of way
Re:Two way communication? (Score:2)
I would love a Sun Type 5 keyboard on my PC, but I haven't found a decent way to make on work without spending 100$. I don't need all the stupid buttons that every keyboard now seems to have. Especially Logitech, those guy are such assholes. I have an iTouch button on my keyboard! And my F keys don't work *by defa
Mostly pointless. (Score:5, Insightful)
"the ability to sense the power status of the PC"
"it can inform users when their mouse battery is low"
"the mouse can sense when the PC has gone into sleep mode or is shut down. The mouse powers down accordingly."
"ability to sense if there is wireless interference from other devices"
All of these features are workarounds for the fact that the mouse lacks a cable. What the hell is wrong with a good optical mouse with a cable?
Honestly, I can't understand ths obsession with wireless stuff. Of course wifi and bluetooth are convenient, but wireless keyboards and mice add nothing for most users. Most desktop users are better off with wired versions because lots of hassle goes away.
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:5, Informative)
But wireless mice arent pointless.
In fact that damn wire of my mx500 seems to get in the way of moving the mouse (because blocking somewhere, or slipped down on the side of the desk and pulling the mouse there, too).
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:3, Interesting)
The keyboard that came with it was a Dell special "lets move all the keys around because we hate all humans" type keyboard. I couldn't use it; kept screwing up when trying to hit page up, or home, or an arrow key. I went to a few stores, and the *ONLY* keyboard that wasn't completely garbage was a damned Logitech (eww) wireless keyboard/mouse kit. The keyboard is OK, the mouse is OK. Neither are
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:2)
The problem I've found with wireless, optical mice is that they still only really work when they're on a mouse mat, so when you zoom across the office on your overpriced executive chair (because you can) you're keyboard works, but your mouse is useless. The only time I've used it recently is when I wirelessly patched my G5 into
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:2)
Re:Mostly pointless. (Score:2)
I suppose when using a mouse as a pointer in a presentation standing in front of a projector is useful.
Bloat... (Score:2, Insightful)
When was the last time you changed the volume of your pc? And when you did, did you think 'I wish I was able to control the volume directly from my mouse'?
Why do you want your mouse to tell you that you have new e-mail or an instant message when you see a mail icon in your system tray or your MSN conversation window flashes like crazy?
The only interesting feature you will get is that it will tell you the battery is low very often
Re:Bloat... (Score:4, Informative)
5min ago
And when you did, did you think 'I wish I was able to control the volume directly from my mouse'?
The first time I used Winamp... scroll wheel controls volume and 3rd button scroll jumps forward/back. I imagine I could use my keyboard, but that's a tad bulky to carry around.
While I agree this looks like a bloat mouse, I must confess that I would likely buy a "multi-media" mouse/trackball that offers extra buttons such as play, stop, pause forward reverse. It would be annoying for an every day mouse but great couch mouse.
The only interesting feature you will get is that it will tell you the battery is low very often
That already exists with the mx-800 and likely the mx-1000. Charging station is the most handy feature considering how much those optical mice suck up the juice. But no two way communication was needed... just a happy little blinking light if the battery is low.
I'm definitely with you on this one (Score:2)
Alternatives were to fumble about with a little knob on your speakers, or buy some vile 'media' keyboard.
I'm quite fussy about my mouse and really don't want a wireless one - but assuming it's a good mouse, I'm quite happy for them to cover it in buttons, lights and give it a bit of int
Looks like feature bloat to me (Score:5, Insightful)
What do you do when your product already does everything a sensible user wants to do?
If you're M$ you release a new version incompatible with old versions to force the upgrade
If you're Logitech you just keep on adding features. I can't see any reason to upgrade here.
Re:Looks like feature bloat to me (Score:2)
What do you do when your product already does everything a sensible user wants to do?
If you're M$ you release a new version incompatible with old versions to force the upgrade
If you're Logitech you just keep on adding features. I can't see any reason to upgrade here.
So, from a business standpoint Microsoft isn't doing very bad, are they?
Re:Looks like feature bloat to me (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Looks like feature bloat to me (Score:2)
Re:Looks like feature bloat to me (Score:2)
The touchpad on my laptop did the latter, and the first setting change I made was to turn it off. It was not usefule at all, just bloody annoying.
Force feedback (Score:3, Informative)
Low energy mouse. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:2)
My Gyration mouse gets about four days on it's Lithium-Ion battery. My Logitech mouse at work gets three to four months on its two disposable AA batteries.
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:3, Insightful)
Also even though it can go a few more hours when its on the red , The bloody flashing LED is so distracting that i have to put it on the charger
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:2)
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:2)
Also, every rechargable mouse I've used (and that's quite a few) has been a royal pain in the ass. They die more frequently (usually every few days). My wireless mouse makes it around FOUR MONTHS on a single pair of AA batteries. That's an awful lot more convenient.
Re:Low energy mouse. (Score:2)
You mean like a traditional mouse with a ball?
I'm confused by all of this "Wireless" mouse rubbish. I'm using a vendor supplied freebie optical cable "mini-mouse" who when I'm not using it I can retract the cable (which is ridiculously long BTW).
Everytime I see a wireless mouse I just think... how often do you want to use the mouse 6ft away from the computer?
In further news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In further news... (Score:2)
Noooo... (Score:2, Funny)
Does anyone remember when... (Score:5, Insightful)
Now my mouse can check my email, my printer can send a fax, my monitor can produce sound, my cell-phone can access the web and my keyring can store half a gig of data.
Re:Does anyone remember when... (Score:2)
Squeak! You've got ads! (Score:3, Interesting)
...and when their Logitech-delivered adware has just popped a message onto their screen. Why oh why do people go out and build up the crapware business by buying these bloated, pointless ubermice whose features they never use anyway? I mean, how many people use the fancy "multimedia" keys on a keyboard?
Logitech Press Release (Score:3, Informative)
Featuring this gem:
"This changes the very concept of a computer mouse, because it is no longer simply an input device"
stockpile of useless driver CDs (Score:2)
And as someone else said: I already have over 100 buttons right in front of me, under my fingers; I don't want 10 more on an accessory!
Mice: the new cellphone? (Score:2)
*goes online to horde Logitech USB Marble mice*
Next Big Thing (tm) (Score:5, Interesting)
The Windows Icon Mouse Pointer system would have to have some of it's qualifying actions loosened, for example, having ok and cancel mouse buttons active when the pointer is within the dialog box instead of requiring that it needed to be above the actual button graphic. This leads to a more generalized notion that the operating system could be manipulated in a context orientated manner. Like today's Wizards on megasteroids. As you went from screen-to-screen within the context of a wizard paradigm have the buttons on the mouse change functions depending on the screen or context you were currently at. It would have to follow some logical system to be useful otherwise you'd probably be constantly looking at your "mouse" to see what was written on the button display at the moment. If it was ever to take hold maybe our children will take a mouse interface course much as we take touch typing courses today.
10 buttons! (Score:2)
I don't need to read anything more. I have no desire to try and use something with 10 buttons on it on a daily basis.
I think they need to read the Design of Everyday Things.
Re:10 buttons! (Score:2)
Well, then what is it you were typing your post with?
Re:10 buttons! (Score:2, Funny)
A stick he holds in his mouth.
Pointless (Score:2, Funny)
Anyone get the mental image of Scotty talking into a mouse?
Okay, has somebody forgotten that the mouse is an input device for when you are in sight of the computer? If you are in sight of the computer, th
Logitech? Blingtech more like it .. (Score:4, Interesting)
Chicken, meet Egg (Score:2, Funny)
BOFH Mouse (Score:3, Insightful)
Otherwise, I mean, Christ... I can barely juggle three buttons as it is!
Logitech Product Page -- auto power off rules. (Score:3, Informative)
One thing that I like is the auto-power off stuff. I have a wireless laptop mouse from Logitech, and the power switch on it is probably the best feature on it; batteries seem to last forever when compared with a regular wireless mouse.
I hope the auto-poweroff stuff is just as good -- then I don't have to remind everyone to turn my mouse off if they stop my pc.
Star Trek IV revisited (Score:2, Funny)
Tech: You have to use the mouse, sir.
Scotty: (into mouse) Computer...
Mouse: (in Computer-voice) Hold on, my battery is low.
Scotty: (Changes batteries) Here, these are dilithium crystal cells.
Mouse: Thank you, I feel much better now. Where would you like to go today?
Scotty: Well, I'd like to get back to the future with a whale and save earth, but...
Mouse: (Interrupting) Hold on, You've got mail. Would you like to buy any v1a6ra?
Scotty: Maybe later, what I really need is s
vibrating mouse phone (Score:2)
Then you could put your mouse in your pocket and leave your computer, and go for a wander, and should you get that all important email - you will know, even if you can't see your monitor. Maybe you could even set up your mouse buttons so you have a remotely operated panic button for when the boss arrives unexpectedly and you're in the next cubicle.
Then again - isn't this function avail
Logitech should make wirless headphones... (Score:2)
As for the mice, jesus we already have enough nice heh. Logitechs been flooding the market with their MX brands, enough versions to sink a ship.
Some people in this thread (Score:2)
Just thought they might be interested in this StrokeIt [tcbmi.com] - mouse gestures like with Opera but on everything.
Classic (Score:2)
A classic example of just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Some more stats (Score:5, Funny)
Features:
10-key keyboard in QWERTY layout
Stereo audio
LCD color VGA display
8 signal LEDs
WiFi
Intel Pentium Centrino(tm) 2.5GHZ CPU
512MB RAM
Weight: 3.1kg (not including batteries)
Dimensions: 30x15x5cm
Power usage: 40 Watt
Battery: 2 Li-ion batteries of 40Ah each
Battery life in sleep mode: 32h
Battery life when mouse used: 4h
DeLuxe model includes power steering allowing for almost frictionless and momentum-less movement.
what if *IT* is the interference? (Score:3, Interesting)
Bluetooth is a standard wireless protocol - they could have acheived everything they wanted, *WITHOUT* creating interference.
We'll just not discuss the bloatware aspects....
A keyboard, speaker and mouse in one hand ? (Score:2)
More complicated things have a habit of failing easily in the heat and humidity. Mostly it's the insects but the dust does help too. I've seen 40$ keyboards just lose it
Ten buttons (Score:3, Funny)
Next years version (Score:3, Funny)
Not quite all the bells and whistles (Score:3, Insightful)
Cool, but when... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Ten buttons... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Ten buttons... (Score:2, Informative)
But I agree, 3-5 buttons is plenty; beyond that you run out of fingers and forget what the buttons do.
Re:low battery? (Score:2)
One function of the new mouse, however, is its ability to sense if there is wireless interference from other devices, an increasingly common problem with today's numerous wireless devices, and to change channels to establish the most secure connection. Other features include the ability to sense the power status of the PC. For example, the mouse can sense when the PC has gone into sleep mode or is shut down. The mouse powers down accordingly. This gives the mouse an expected battery life of thre
Re:More article bashing (Score:2)
An indicator light on the mouse lights up when the battery has less than 10% power left
I assume that the light goes off again when the battery level reaches 0?
No, there's a battery backup to keep the low/dead battery LED going in case the mouse battery dies.