A Fanless Graphics Card from ASUS 238
mikemuch writes "ASUS has come out with the Extreme N6600GT Silencer/HTD, a GeForce 6600GT without any cooling fan. It's sort of odd looking, with heat sinks that fold on a hinge. Great for home theater since it's silent. Loyd Case of ExtremeTech has put it through a rigorous bunch of benchmarks."
Fanless (Score:4, Funny)
Did anybody else read this as a graphics card that nobody likes?
Re:Fanless (Score:3, Funny)
YES! You noticed it was from ASUS too?
Re:Fanless (Score:3, Informative)
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Then again, I usually wait for the early adopters to help companies work out the bugs before making a purchase. I've heard from several people that the ASUS boards can be buggy, but they always seem to be fine by the time I get to them.
Re:Fanless (Score:3, Interesting)
Compared to the piece of shit Shuttle SN25P I recently had that kept destroying my RAID array I would certainly be interested to hear what the grandparent doesn't like about Asus motherboards.
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Man, I *HATED* Asus for that mobo. Mine had no end of problems, most related to the four in one drivers and Soundblasters doing whacky things, which required playing with PCI timing or something in BIOS to fix, and a video card issue that never ceased. Later in life, it would mysteriously not find drives on the Promise ATA100 controller.
I honestly think most of the problem was the via chipset; IF i was going to avoid one aspect of the board for ever and ever, it would be via's chipse
Re:Fanless (Score:2)
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Since when did they need fans? (Score:3, Insightful)
The graphics card in my PC, Linux Laptop and Work Laptop are all devoid of fans. There's the case fans, the CPU fans but that's it.
Has it really been that long since I upgraded my PC? Funny how not buying new games all the time reduces my desire to upgrade my computer.
I remember attaching the CPU fan from an old Pentium to my ATI card a while back just for the fun of it, but I didn't leave it there.
What gives? What am
Re:Since when did they need fans? (Score:3, Informative)
I buy about 1 game a year, but my last 4 or 5 video cards, stretching back to that old Kyro VR, have had fans.
Re:Since when did they need fans? (Score:2)
Hmmm, let's see.
Nerthack.
Freedom Force.
X-Com
Quake II and Quake III
Half Life
Civ III
Sim City 3000 Unlimited
Frozen Bubble.
Serious Sam
Diablo II
I tried Doom 3, and while it ran just fine, the gameplay left me cold. It just wasn't as fun as the games listed above.
Re:Since when did they need fans? (Score:2)
Have you played the Mac version call "iNertHack".
Re:Since when did they need fans? (Score:3, Funny)
No, I'm just a cheap, self centered bastard.
I wasn't really incredulous about the GPU fans, I was trying to play the "Old Coot" card, and really screwed up on my attempt to convey humor on-line.
And yes, I'm aware of how old the games in question are. That was my point. I don't play many new games, which is probably the reason my GPU doesn't
Re:Since when did they need fans? (Score:3, Informative)
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8 out of 10 (Score:4, Insightful)
Silence can be expensive.
Re:8 out of 10 (Score:4, Insightful)
Doesn't seem like this is something that new, I've had my card for a few months now.
Stuart
Re:8 out of 10 (Score:3, Insightful)
I think the twisting alone buys it a mention, but I think it could be made better. What we really want is for the thing to twist automatically with a loud WHIRRRR and then click into place with a satisfying Ker-Chunck. And it should do this only when it starts to heat up, like right after you start your game.
Re:8 out of 10 (Score:2)
I enjoy NetHack, MUDs, and if I feel like playing a graphical game, it's something which is playable. Master of Orion 2 is my favourite; it's still better than anything produced in recent years.
Re:8 out of 10 (Score:2)
Well, that's rather a subjective comment isn't it?
Instead of NetHack you could play Fate - which is much like a pretty graphical version of NetHack. For strategy there are plenty of upcoming games (i.e. Age of Empires 3, Civ 4, Rise of Legends) using snazzy 3D effects.
I used to play MUDs - now I play MMOs. Both I think have their merits.
You may want to play MOO 2 for the rest of your life, but I prefer some variety.
And is there something inherently wrong about a good shooter like
Um... but (Score:5, Insightful)
Somehow I'm thinking fried silica.
Re:Um... but (Score:2)
Simple: It wouldn't. That's okay, though, you'd just pick a different solution to the problem. Just because it doesn't allow you to go fanless doesn't mean that eliminating the one fan wouldn't lessen the noise coming from the system. If I'm building a quiet rig and my options were this and a CPU fan or having a card with a fan and a CPU fan, I'd take this.
Re:Um... but (Score:3, Informative)
However, they mounted the heat pipe and radiator on a hinge so that, if you have a CPU fan, you can get an added benefit without adding another fan.
Failing that, you can rotate it to avoid other things in the case and get optimal orientation for natural convection/other drafts.
=Smidge=
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Ok, everybody jokes.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Um... but (Score:2)
As others mentioned, this isn't intended for a case with zero airflow. But the benefit is clear: rather than cooling the video card with a fast, whiny 40mm or 60mm fan, you can take advantage of the existing case airflow from one or two slow, quiet 120mm fans. Since the case should already have some good airflow anyway (passive video cooler or not), this is a net win. :-) -- Paul
Wrong. (Score:4, Insightful)
10 12cm case fans running at 7V dont come close to some of those 8000rpm 40mm fuckers
Re:Um... but (Score:2)
I have a fanless XFX card with the GF6600, and it doesn't use any tricks to exploit other fans in the system. It runs a tad warm, but within the spec'd range - Around 55C idle, up to around 70C under heavy use.
Personally, I like keeping everything as cool as possible, so "modded" my case to have a low-RPM 120mm fam blow nice cool air on it, which drops it by
Overkill (Score:3, Insightful)
Or you can just buy a cheap old 2D card with no 3D acceleration since all you are doing is rendering video!
Re:Overkill (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, the problem with that solution is that the older 2D cards aren't fast enough to display the full screen rendering of high definition video. Granted, all we're doing is 2D, but at the point at which it's put into a home theater setup, the video card is taking most of the grunt work of decoding the video from the processor. At least, that was how I thought it was working these days.
Re:Overkill (Score:3, Informative)
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Unless of course you would like to share the magical secret of video scaling which you seem to think was not implemented in hardware until after 2002.
I won't hold my brea
Re:Overkill (Score:2)
I watched DVD video scaled to 1024x768 on 600Mhz PCs with low-end 3D PCI cards years ago. If your system is having trouble doing that, you probably have a slow DVD drive or some other bottleneck. I currently do this on my 900Mhz HTPC with an old ATI Radeon 9200 that I bought for $50. It doesn't have a fan either, just a heat sink.
Re:Overkill (Score:2)
Re:Overkill (Score:2, Interesting)
So you've got this P4 class machine hooked up to a 60" hdtv screen with surround sound
Sorry. I don't buy that.
Re:Overkill (Score:2)
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01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a4)
which has 3D accelleration and so on does not have any fan... And this is far too decent to just play movies. This post (meaning parent
*Now* they make one (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, that would have been nice to be able to recommend when I wrote this article [blogspot.com]. I had also recommended an Asus GeForce 6600, albeit one that didn't cost quite as much. For myself (not being an audiophile), the cheaper card works fine as it rarely spins up to any noticable volume while I'm watching TV. I can understand, though, that for others the background noise can be very annoying.
As you can see, the card is actually designed to take advantage of a preexisting CPU cooling fan to blow air over the passive radiator. If you have a standard active cooling mount, then this is an innovative idea. But it does limit your choice of CPU coolers. For one thing, your processor heat sink can't be taller than the bottom of the card.
So what they're saying is that the ASUS Star Ice Jet Engine^W^W CPU Fan isn't going to work [viperlair.com] with this card? What a shocker.
(No, I won't let go of it. I've still got mine sitting on my desk, just so I can get all the "What the hell is that?" comments. )
Nvidia's upcoming Release 80 drivers include a number of enhancements for HDTV, including the ability to minimize overscan problems, something which has plagued home-theater PCs for years.
This reminds me, has anyone had any experience with this [pccasegear.com] or any other HDTV-compatible cards that don't cost an arm and a leg? I'm still avoiding HD for now, but it's likely to catch eventually. To date I haven't seen too many inexpensive HDTV tuner cards. Then again, maybe I'm not looking hard enough?
Re:*Now* they make one (Score:2)
I wanted to use the setup as a gaming system in addition to handling all my home theatre needs, but one question remained. Isn't there some length threshold for the DVI cable beyond which the picture starts to degrade? Perhaps that only is an issue with current analog cables, but I was wondering what you would do if you kept the PC fairly far away from the TV.
Otherwise, an inspiring article. I'd also be interested to hear your though
Re:*Now* they make one (Score:2)
DVI is digital, so you either have a signal lock or you don't. Which is to say, that the cable is still going to experience the same problems as any other cable, it's just that you're going to simply lose the signal instead of experiencing degradation. This link [scala.com] should help you pick a cable that meets your needs. Be warned, though, 10 meters is probably about the most you'll manage to get.
Otherwise, an inspiring
Not new (Score:5, Informative)
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Useless (Score:3, Informative)
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That being said, I think the problem tends to be exasperated by poor cases. One of the primary points you have to look for when chosing a case is "does air flow well?" The case should be roomy enough to allow air to flow smoothly from the front of the case to the rear. Usually you'll have a fan in the rear of the case, but having moun
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Re:Useless (Score:3, Interesting)
As such, I went with a fanless Asus FX5200. Turns out that the NVidia DVD/MPEG2 decoder does the best job on this decently powerful system as a PVR box. Plus, the less fans I have, the less "whoosh" noise. Which in a home theater/PVR environment is a necessity.
Re:Useless (Score:2)
Re:Useless (Score:2)
I wouldn't notice the noise unless there was a vibration or it was really loud.
The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:3, Funny)
And I'll bet she still complains that you never do anything sweet. Women...
Re:The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:2)
Don't you think thats a bit over kill
I just peiced together a p2 system for my wife, which is still overkill for what she needs
Re:The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:2)
You're right, I should have gotten her something faster.
Don't you think thats a bit over kill .. your disposable income is obviously far greater than mine... I just peiced together a p2 system for my wife, which is still overkill for what she needs ...
Your problem is that you are assuming that my wife is like your wife. Unfortunately I don't think that is true. My wife needs a fast computer because she writes a lot of computationally
Re:The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:2)
She play FFXI a lot, which on the graphics intensive stuff (waterfalls, etc.) with lots of other players in the same area as you (once counted 200) can bury anything less than a 6800GT . She gets really uppity if the frame rate drops below 30fps, so her machine has more memory, a faster processor and much better graphics than any of mine. It also has to have uber fans to cope with it...
Re:The 6600 silencer works great. (Score:2)
Oh and it does a complete 2.6.13 kernel compile (modules and all) in 3 minutes 27 seconds. :) All my wife cares about, though, is that she can run her cell simulation code in a reasonable amount of time.
Should work in free air (Score:3, Interesting)
You should keep your room cool (which you should do anyway when gaming because warmth will make you soperific and slow your reactions). You may also want to use a mosquito net or other gauze-like sheild to stop dust accumulating on your hardware.
Re:Should work in free air (Score:2)
This isn't new! (Score:5, Funny)
Pah!
Re:This isn't new! (Score:3, Interesting)
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whisper soft! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:whisper soft! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh right. Joke.
Re:whisper soft! (Score:5, Funny)
Gigabyte has a similar model (Score:4, Informative)
I have a PCI Express version of the card in my rig, and it is nice. Gets too hot to touch after running GPU-intensive applications, but those NV chips should be designed to run hot (and they have a thermal protection which throttles down the GPU if it gets overheated).
Nice to see other manufacturers to notice that people like to have their computers silent.
Let's call it a graphics card with an external fan (Score:2)
It's a nice idea that it can use an existing CPU or case fan for cooling, but I would hate to see someone try using this in a passively cooled or water cooled system.
Another ad? (Score:2)
Isn't it enough that we have ads on the site already, without being presented with slashvertisements? Mod me a troll if you will, but I think I've been seeing more of this lately.
isn't call of duty 2 using 512mb graphics cards... (Score:2)
I have a similar card without a hinge... (Score:2, Informative)
I would recommend any ASUS product so far, havent had any problems with my motherboard or video card, both ASUS. If your looking for a cheap, powerful video card with a few high-end features, these cards are ideal. Good work ASUS.
All fanless system is not that hard or expensive (Score:2, Interesting)
Looks interesting (Score:2)
Umm.. they all used to be (Score:2)
Up until 3 years ago, it would be rare to find a video card with a fan in it.
10 Years ago, most CPU's didn't even have fans on them.
Re:Umm.. they all used to be (Score:2)
fast + no fan == innovation
6600GT is overkill for home theater (Score:3, Insightful)
fanless is overrated (Score:3, Insightful)
if someone is freaked about the tiny bit of noise their fans make so they can watch TV with the volume almost at 0 then they really need to figure things out differently. Every highend home theatre does not waste time with fanlesds and low noise, they simply put the gear outside the room or in a closet with a door.
Going overboard to buy a high power video card (for an HTPC? Why? a $19.00 64 meg cheapie that has good accelerated video works best) and going nuts to make your PC silent may be your hobby, but it has no real value, espically in a Home theatre where you are supposed to be cranking the volume up past a faint whisper.
Re:fanless is overrated (Score:2)
I live in a row house. It has old wiring, very little sound insulation, and no central A/C. My living room isn't big enough for a projector even if I wanted one. In that small room, the sound is noticeable - especially when you aren't watching TV. I prefer a low-power system because I can feel the temperature difference in t
Well whooptie-doo (Score:2)
vapor phase cooling? (Score:2)
freon (ok, the cfc free stuff) units, like some bozos are now
using for overclocked cpus. Then what, liquid Helium?
Depressing... (Score:2, Informative)
What really bothers me, though, is they give no tempreature readings whatsoever. How much does the CPU temp go up
So. (Score:2)
Noise (Score:3, Funny)
1.) Install remotely activated spike strips in road for when kids go screaming through at 70mph or have the bass turned up way too loud in their car.
2.) Aquire a directional EMP generator so I can take out the neighbors stereo when she does yard work.
3.) Systematically replace every lawn in the neighborhood with artificial turf so I never have to hear a lawnmower again.
4.) Get rid of girlfriend.
Why is this interesting? (Score:2)
If you want games, get an X-Box or PS2. I find PC games really hard to play on a TV with a keyboard anyway.
Benchmarks (Score:2)
Why not compare it to a vanilla 6600 and see if it performs any differently since there's quite a bit of benchmarks available for vanilla version?
If they perform exactly the same (what I'd expect), then we're just asking if noise difference is worth the price difference. Instead, they do gratuitous benchmarks. What a waste.
Re:Benchmarks (Score:2)
Help me in my inexperience (Score:3, Interesting)
What would I be giving up? Efficient playing of video? Just 3D gaming? Just curious.
How does anyone keep all of this stuff straight?
Journalistic Integrity (Score:2)
Moving Parts suck. (Score:2)
Re:Talk about a waste of money... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I've had a fanless video card for years! (Score:2)
Re:Does it glow in the dark? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:the ONLY peripheral to EVER CATCH ON FIRE --- (Score:2)
Hate to break it to you, but ATI doesn't manufacture their own cards any longer.
Re:So what? (Score:2)