Gmail Becomes Google Mail in the UK 337
akadruid writes "As of today, UK Gmail users are seeing 'Google Mail' at the top of their Gmail accounts, and Google is warning they may lose their '@gmail.com' addresses in the future. All new signups from the UK will be assigned '@googlemail.com' addresses, and existing accounts will be able to use either domain for now. Gmail's help pages explain this is related to their ongoing dispute regarding the Gmail trademark."
I work internationally (Score:4, Interesting)
I didn't know Google even kept a geographical address for my gmail account. Doesn't appear when I search for it!
Gmail Notifier got too much? (Score:2, Interesting)
Do no evil, and ignore the courts (Score:2, Interesting)
gmail - googlemail gateway? (Score:3, Interesting)
If so this isn't nearly as big an issue at it would seem.
Dan East
What are they doing with the trademark? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Do no evil, and ignore the courts (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Do no evil, and ignore the courts (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyone who's still unconvinced that this is fully transparent,
dig mx gmail.com
dig mx googlemail.com
branded addresses (Score:2, Interesting)
Of course, companies with confidentiality/privacy concerns might be loath to adopt this; but for others, it could be great.
@googlemail.com address may be a collector's item (Score:3, Interesting)
If this legal dispute goes Google's way, then they'll probably discontinue the practise of handing out @googlemail.com addresses, but will likely keep existing ones active. As a result, having one of those rare email addresses might actually have some caché amongst the technorati. I'm sure that someone will try to sell an @googlemail.com address for big bucks on eBay.
Re:I work internationally (Score:4, Interesting)
I imagine the change now in the UK has a lot more to do with their right to market their service in the UK as "Gmail", rather than any anticipated future technical problems with using "gmail" in their URL.
On the other hand, it's been quite some time since they started redirecting any web traffic from gmail.com to mail.google.com, so it is possible they're expecting to lose the domain altogether. But if so, it seems foolish to keep giving non-UK users new gmail.com addresses.
The trademark registrations (Score:5, Interesting)
Now, just because they registered first doesn't mean that another company wasn't already using it as a de facto trade mark, but it does occur to me that the value of the mark should be determined by what it was before Google started using it, not what it's worth now. That the other claimant has a total market value of £3.24m ($5.6m) should be an indication that the GMail mark isn't worth "$48m to $64m" as they claim.
Will I keep my username? (Score:4, Interesting)
I have a really common name and getting a user name that was remotely like my real name was only possible by getting hold of an invite right at the start. I'll be really pissed off if someone else can swipe it. I've tried opening another account with myname@googlemail.com and it is not available - hopefully this indicates that they have reserved it for me.
Re:No more changing your email (Score:2, Interesting)
That's why you get a domain and create/delete as many emails as you please. I have one primary email that is almost entirely spam free and two or three others that I use when I sign up for "shady" stuff. Not to mention the probably 50 or so I've created and deleted for one time use (:
Re:Ouch ... (Score:1, Interesting)
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Double-edged sword (Score:5, Interesting)
When I signed up for Hotmail, I entered my country as 'Pakistan', since I didn't think it was Microsoft's business what country I'm from/in. Also, I don't live in the country I'm from, so it's pretty much meaningless anyway.
But lo and behold, when Hotmail upped their storage to 250MB, my account stayed at 2.5MB (later upped to 25MB). Why? Because I'm not in the USA. Do you think changing my profile to USA upped the limit? Hint - the answer is not yes.
Yes, I know Hotmail != Gmail, but the point is that initial profile choices can have unintended consequences...
Re:Article to the original lawsuit (Score:2, Interesting)
Similar to Open Office and OpenOffice.org.
Re:No more changing your email (Score:3, Interesting)
It's my opinion that you have a better chance at avoiding spam by having your own domain. You can set your name in the email to be any random thing you want, so spammers have a much lower chance of figuring it out. More over, you can create new addresses specifically for higher-spam duties. I hardly give out my @mydomain address, especially not to websites, I get no spam and only a few less than welcome newsletters (my laziness, not their fault). However, the webmaster mailbox does get spam, just because any domain will have that happen.
As someone else pointed out, it's not a bad idea just to forward your @mydomain email to a service like gmail. Then you get the benefit of their spam filtration and interface, but you get the added benefit of owning your email address and controlling it. If gmail closes down tomorrow you simply forward to somewhere else.
Re:Not all lawyers are backstabbing... (Score:2, Interesting)
My original point was not that we need to enable "stomping" of the little guy, but rather recognize that domain names have very different implications (jurisdiction-ignoring technology) than could the framers of trademark laws have ever predicted.