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Firefox 1.5 RC1 Released 312

Posted by CmdrTaco from the get-your-download-on dept.
jgaynor writes "The Firefox team took another step towards version 1.5 this morning as it made public release candidate 1 of it's popular browser. Users running 1.5 beta should have already received notice via an automated update dialogue box. New features include improved Pop-up blocking, enhanced automated update, better OS X support and faster back and forward page navigation buttons. A full list of features can be found in the release notes as well as the downloaded page." My copy is 24 seconds away from downloaded ;)
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  • 1.5 Beta 2? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by aussie_a ( 778472 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:14AM (#13931256) Journal
    I got the Beta 2. Can I upgrade via it's upgrade function? If so, how? I see a button for "Upgrade History" but none for "Check Now".

  • If you're gonna download it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Stevyn ( 691306 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:15AM (#13931258)
    Help them out and file bug reports since it's a release candidate. If everyone just downloaded and said nothing bad about it since it's firefox, the final version may still have some nasty bugs in it.

    • Changelog (Score:5, Informative)

      by Zouden ( 232738 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:38AM (#13931403)
      If anyone's curious, here's the changelog [squarefree.com] from 1.5 Beta 2:

      New browser features
      * 313529 - Support importing home pages from (some) other browsers and multiple versions of Firefox Start.
      * 220590 - [Mac] Delete (backspace) key should go back on Mac, too.

      New web developer features
      * 302188 - Support :-moz-read-only and :-moz-read-write pseudoclasses.
      * 230909 - Make the dom.max_script_run_time pref work. (This pref controls the "this script is running slowly" dialog.)

      New extension developer features
      Nothing new since Firefox 1.5 Beta 2.

      Notable bug fixes
      * 313300 - Change default for browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction from 0 to 2. (Make "Force links that open new windows to open in... new tabs" not apply to window.open with specified width, height, or other features.)
      * 312527 - Need to reduce padding for bookmark menu items.
      * 245418 - Menus and contextual menus open on wrong screen when using dual screens.
      * 312227 - Not able to type in textbox of the main window after download completes.
      * 309027 - Saving image does not open the save location window sometimes.
      * Many reliability fixes for software update.
      * 284474 - Converting to UTF-8 a url with an unescaped non-ASCII chars in the query part leads to an incompaitbilty with most server-side programs. (Fixed by backing out the change for 261929, Send urls in UTF-8 by default (images/links with non-ASCII chacters not displayed).)
      * 245392 - Installer options for shortcuts don't work (update/install adds unwanted icons to desktop/quick launch, creates empty folder in start menu).
      * 282750 - Extremely slow scrolling of ESPN.com.
      * 310825 - window.focus() in a background tab can steal focus from foreground tab.
      • so quoth Zouden:

        New extension developer features
        Nothing new since Firefox 1.5 Beta 2.

        Forgive my ignorance, by if nothing has changed since Beta 2 in this respect, then why do some extensions still break?

        Namely the "Farkit" extension in my case...

        I assume there will be an update soon, but still...why the breakage?

        P.S. does anyone else think it would be nice to have something similar to Farkit for Slashdot? i.e. when you do "Reply to This" and then select some text from the quote you are posting, rig

    • Theres an annoying bug that prevents the status bar from displaying the link I'm hovering over.
      I already have the tickbox for "Change status bar text" unticked - ie javascript should not change the status bar.

      If the site includes onmouseover type events (even with simple return false code) then it cancels the javascript display but the URL never displays.

      Its damn annoying.

      and no, installing greasemonkey and using the noblindlink type scripts don't work now because nothing can touch the document.on* events (
    • I hear this a lot, but so far I've only found one bug in Firefox, and it was listed as already fixed in bugzilla. So, I'm testing, really I am, but it works great for me!

  • Java plugin (Score:4, Informative)

    by geophile ( 16995 ) <jao.geophile@com> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:16AM (#13931267) Homepage
    I hope the new release makes it easier to get the java plugin working in RH9 or FC[34]. I've tried a number of different documented procedures with 1.0.6 and have never been able to get it working.
  • on emacs?

  • Kudos To The Firefox Team (Score:4, Informative)

    by sysrpl ( 740738 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:22AM (#13931309)
    Kudos to the Firefox team. My web browser notified me of this update and it was automatically applied without a hitch.

  • ctrl+tab on Mac OS X (Score:5, Informative)

    by 1110110001 ( 569602 ) <slashdot-0904.nedt@at> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:24AM (#13931315)
    With bug 275519 "[Mac] Support Command+Option+Arrows for tab switching (like Camino)" they decided to drop support for ctrl+tab under Mac OS X. As it's now a RC let me give you a how-to to reenable ctrl+tab. I hope it's easier in the final release (copied from my comment in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27551 9 [mozilla.org]).

    1) Quit Firefox
    2) Go to Firefox.app, Choose Show Package Contents (my Finder show the german
    text so I can only guess what's the wording in english) and go to
    Contents/MacOS/chrome/
    3) Backup toolkit.jar and rename it to toolkit.zip
    4) unpack toolkit.zip and go to content/global/bindings/
    5) open tabbrowser.xml
    6) Replace (in line 1977 in my file)
              this.mTabBox.handleCtrlTab = !/Mac/.test(navigator.platform);
          with
              this.mTabBox.handleCtrlTab = true;
    7) Create an archive of the content folder
    8) Rename it to toolkit.jar
    9) You can now use ctrl+tab again

    b4n

    • Re:ctrl+tab on Mac OS X (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      On my powerbook I switch tabs to the right or left by using the key combinations:

      fn + ctrl + page down

      and

      fn + ctrl + page up

      On a powerbok, the 'fn' and 'ctrl' keys are on the bottom left of the keyboard, the 'page down' key is on the bottom right and is also the 'down arrow' key.

      I think that's what I used in Firefox on Linux as well to switch tabs, minus the fn key. I noticed it when I got used to switching tabs in Gnome's tabbed terminal application and accidentally used it in Firefox.

      I don't know if it wo

  • IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by CDPatten ( 907182 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:25AM (#13931324) Homepage
    IE 7 (beta) still has some pretty sweet features that this version of Firefox doesn't. One of the coolest is the feature that lets you quickly see an image of all open tabs. For the common end user, another is the phishing filter, which is pretty good.

    I wish Firefox added more cutting edge stuff. MS will win the war if this is what is going to compete against IE 7.

    Maybe in the final release we will see some better features added.
    • You make some good points, but let's not think Microsoft innovated here! That would be news.

      Omniweb [omnigroup.com] is one of those innovators -- you can see the image of the tabs there, as is Shiira [hmdt-web.net] (tab exposé)

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      They're working on the unglamorous speed improvements and stability for the most part. They're reworking the rendering engine to speed up drawing of pages and reducing memory usage and fixing incorrect handling of CSS and HTML. I think that's more important then a new whiz bang feature.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Stevyn ( 691306 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:32AM (#13931363)
      I prefer to use my short term memory to remember what the pages roughly look like since my memory is free and I don't have to upgrade it. And a phishing filter is only good for the user if it blocks every phishing scheme that will ever be created. Otherwise, they'll let their guard down over time and then get bit in the ass. A better solution may be to make the user that they are aware they're on a secure server and that the server address better match with the address in the address bar. That would be a good feature for firefox to...wait...

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Interesting)

      by n0-0p ( 325773 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:43AM (#13931422)
      The tab thing sounds interesting, so I'll give it a try and see what I think. I wouldn't use the IE anti-phishing system because it sends every URL to MS' servers for validation. I don't consider myself paranoid, but I'm not comfortable with handing over my entire browsing history to a third party.

      In terms of cutting edge stuff I'd really like to see IE support SVG, XForms, more complete CSS, and other Web 2.0 features. I guess we just have different views and priorities on that one.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:45AM (#13931427)
      IE 7 has still pretty cool features, like adressbar spoofing, statusbar spoofing, domain spoofing, titlebar spoofing, SSL spoofing, keystroke sniffing, clipboard sniffing, Cross-Site-Scripting and, of course, remote code execution. No phishing filter will help you with that. In consequence, IE can only be safely used on a trusted intranet.

      In contrary, Firefox can be used on the internet - which I consider as a standard feature that IE clearly lacks of.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Scoria ( 264473 ) <slashmail AT initialized DOT org> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:46AM (#13931434) Homepage
      IE 7 (beta) still has some pretty sweet features that this version of Firefox doesn't. One of the coolest is the feature that lets you quickly see an image of all open tabs.

      Firefox is ultimately a lightweight browser that can be easily expanded to suit an end-user's individual preferences. There are freely available extensions that will convert Firefox into the most feature-rich browser imaginable.

      For the common end user, another is the phishing filter, which is pretty good.

      It's funny that you would mention it. The current development builds of Mozilla Thunderbird actually have a "scam detection" filter, even though I feel that such technology does often add a false sense of security to the equation. Maybe it will be shared with an upcoming Firefox build.

      I wish Firefox added more cutting edge stuff.

      This subject has been beaten to death here at Slashdot, but I'm afraid that the Trident rendering engine is still many miles behind the competition. Gecko is definitely cutting edge by comparison, even though I understand that the Microsoft team is striving to improve their engine.

      MS will win the war if this is what is going to compete against IE 7.

      If there is indeed a browser war happening, Microsoft certainly has the advantage. For most people, after all, the preinstalled Internet Explorer is synonymous with "the Internet." However, I don't believe that Firefox 1.5 will be up against Internet Explorer 7.0. Instead, it's likely that Firefox 2.0 ("The Ocho") will be released [mozilla.org] alongside Vista, and that they will directly compete for the market.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Informative)

      by DarkEdgeX ( 212110 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:04AM (#13931547) Journal
      IE7 won't be released until Windows Vista is released (late next year). Firefox 1.5 is coming out this year, and Firefox 2.0 is supposed to come out sometime next year (followed by a 3.0 even I think [???]). I know Ben Goodger has posted and/or linked to roadmaps in the past.. ahha, here it is--

      http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.ht ml [mozilla.org]

      So yeah, I think the Firefox crew has some time to add in these new IE7 features (at least the ones that make sense) without having to worry too much.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Informative)

      by Youssef Adnan ( 669546 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:11AM (#13931604) Homepage
      You can get the tab preview feature in Firefox through the following extension: (compatible with FFox 1.5RC1)
      http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/ index.html [mielczarek.org]

      As for phishing, check out these extensions:
      https://addons.mozilla.org/quicksearch.php?q=phish &section=A [mozilla.org]

      IE has not innovated in a very long time while other have been trying hard to innovate to just get through the market leader-ship barrier that IE has put. It's going to be very challenging for the IE team to introduce any feature that would be outside the "catch-up" with other browser features. I'm glad to see that IE is going to introduce nifty features from all over the place, nonetheless.

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:4, Funny)

      by FireFury03 ( 653718 ) <<slashdot> <at> <nexusuk.org>> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:13AM (#13931628) Homepage
      I wish Firefox added more cutting edge stuff. MS will win the war if this is what is going to compete against IE 7.

      Will IE7 feature Clippy too? "It looks like you're downloading a virus, would you like help installing it?" :)

      Being serious, IE7 is still not standards complient and still doesn't support XHTML.

    • I wish Firefox added more cutting edge stuff.

      Dude, what plant are you smoking? I'm pretty sure it was Firefox who came up with tabbed browsing, extensibility for custom applications, integrated pop-up blocking, and many other 'cutting edge' features. Microsoft is just playing catch up with most of these!

      I concede that the visual display of tab content you describe does sound like nothing Firefox currently offers (that is, I conceded without having searched through the thousands of available Firefox

      • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @10:05AM (#13932096)
        "Dude, what plant are you smoking? I'm pretty sure it was Firefox who came up with tabbed browsing, extensibility for custom applications, integrated pop-up blocking, and many other 'cutting edge' features. "

        They were not the first for any of those 3 items you mentioned. Firefox was just playing catchup to other programs out there. It's just that they implemented them properly and all in one application.
    • I wish Firefox added more cutting edge stuff. MS will win the war if this is what is going to compete against IE 7.


      Cool. Can you help me find a copy of IE7 for my Mac?

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Lomby ( 147071 ) <[andrea] [at] [lombardoni.ch]> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:29AM (#13931783) Homepage
      Firefox 1.5 has one of the coolest features you can imagine: SVG.

      Everything is well integrated with XUL/Javascript.

      This opens the door to many applications that were not possible before without resorting to Java/Flash/ActiveX/...

      Think of a Gantt chart editor in your browser.
      Think of a graphical editor in your browser.
      Think of a CAD in your browser.

      SVG has the potential to move the kind of operations you can perform in a browser to the next level.
      • SVG is already available for current versions of Firefox, if you're building your own binaries. However, if it's going to be included in official binaries by default and officially supported, that's cool.

      • SVG (Score:3, Informative)

        by Anonymous Brave Guy ( 457657 )

        I don't think I'd want all those things in a browser. Then again, since there's rather more to CAD than the graphics (which is a tiny portion of any serious CAD package), I don't think I'll stress over my job writing libraries used in CAD software just yet.

        What will be cool about SVG, assuming it works in practice, is having all those CGI scripts that do simple database look-ups able to render simple but effective graphical representations, rather than just displaying data in ugly and/or unhelpful tabular

    • My post wasn't meant to bash firefox. Seriously, I've never seen such hyper-sensitive people in my life. Not all, but most of the replies are just blind defenses of firefox.

      Discussion about pros/cons of the browser will make it better. Saying IE sucks doesn't help FireFox improve, and it won't make FireFox beat IE 7 in the browser war. Stop being zealots and have an objective discussion. IE AND FireFox aren't perfect, get over it. How about try having a discussion on how to improve its functionality
    • What really gets me about these "browser wars" is that so many people think it's a good idea if one brower wins. It will be VERY bad if Firefox, IE, Safari, Opera, or whatever other browser becomes the one most people use. The only good outcome is where there are at least three competing browsers (Firefox, IE, and Opera or Safari should do the trick), or we'll continue to have the situation where lazy web developers test their stuff with one browser, and assume it's okay, because "it's the browser most peop

    • Re:IE 7 vs. Firefox 1.5 (Score:3, Insightful)

      by drew ( 2081 )
      IE7 is also not yet available to the public in any form and probably won't be available as a finished product until Firefox 2 is out (or at least well on it's way). So I wouldn't worry about Firefox losing out to IE7 just yet.

      And even if it does, it has still been successful in giving Microsoft the impetus to a) release an up to date browser, and b) follow web standards. As a web developer, I don't really care if Firefox never gets above 10% market share as long as its existence is enough to keep the 80+%

    • If Firefox proponents don't begin to mention software freedom, there will be another reason for MSIE 7 users to stick with MSIE and not download the latest version of Firefox. After all, on Microsoft Windows it is easier to use MSIE than to download and install a replacement web browser. Microsoft can implement all sorts of features that Firefox has today or will get soon, but Firefox respects the user's freedoms to run, inspect, copy, and modify the software and MSIE doesn't. It would be a shame to let

  • Extensions Again (Score:5, Informative)

    by Blahbooboo3 ( 874492 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:27AM (#13931334)
    Watch your extensions, some seem to not work with latest release. For me, Forecastfox and IE View.... Yes, you can modify the extension to make it work, but it's a bit of a pain and later on seemed to give me problems...

  • AutoUpdate Issues (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Sv-Manowar ( 772313 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:29AM (#13931342) Homepage Journal

    I've been running 1.5 beta 2 since it was released, and for some reason the autoupdate to 1.5RC1 got stuck in a loop where beta 2 would just keep downloading and applying the upgrader, without actually having any effect. AutoUpdate is one of the key new features in 1.5 to keep users browsers up to date (and hence, patching holes rapidly, keeping FireFox's security edge over IE).

    Hopefully this is just the result of issues in beta 2 and older profiles, rather than an indicator of problems in the AutoUpdate code.

  • Posting this from RC1 and ACID2 (Score:3, Informative)

    by Chanc_Gorkon ( 94133 ) <.moc.liamg. .ta. .nokrog.> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:31AM (#13931355)
    Dies not pass acid 2, however, they ain't the only ones. That company in Redmond has issues too.

    • Re:Posting this from RC1 and ACID2 (Score:4, Informative)

      by kbrosnan ( 880121 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:19AM (#13931679) Homepage

      There were no plans to make 1.5 pass the Acid2 test [mozillazine.org]. Firefox 1.5 is based on Gecko 1.8. Firefox trunk builds [mozilla.org] have made some progress as can be seen in bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=198232 part of bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289480.

      DO NOT use 1.5 and a trunk build on the same profile [mozillazine.org].

  • Pop-up blocking (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Rinnt ( 917105 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:33AM (#13931370)
    improved Pop-up blocking

    I am *really* looking forward to pop-up blocking improvements. It seems that when I first started using firefox (back in the early days) it caught the vast majority of pop-ups. That situation seems to have gotten worse lately. For example, I visit a certain guitar tab web site. Let's say I want to view 10 different tabs at once... using Firefox's tabs, I just click away. Unfortunately, this also means I'm greated with 10 new pop ups. This happens every time and has really brought back the days before firefox (and no pop-up blocker).

    • Re:Pop-up blocking (Score:4, Informative)

      by lpangelrob ( 714473 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:41AM (#13931411)
      By and large, this is because the website uses at Flash plugin to generate new windows of a specific URL and size. Some websites seem to hook Javascript onto links so that when you click on a "Next Page" or equivalent, a popup appears, but this hasn't happened to me in ages.

      If 1.5RC1 doesn't solve this issue, I highly recommend installing Flashblock [mozdev.org], which ensures no Flash executes unless you specifically click on it. For these "hidden" Flash animations, you can never click on them, so no more popups for you.

      • No it's not. I visit guitar tab sites all the time, and I'm constantly hammered with popups on them (as well as many other sites). I use Flashblock. Either Flashblock doesn't work, or there's some new method out there for creating popups that Firefox DOES NOT catch.

        Bryan
      • Unfortunately, Flashblock is one of the extensions that is currently broken uner RC1. Hopefully that issue will be addressed soon. Until then, I remain with the old version.
      • Try looking up some words on m-w.com. I get pop-ups from there, and I have Flashblock installed. I also see the yellow bar telling me that a pop-up has been blocked, but a new window appears anyway.
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  • My copy is 24 seconds away from downloaded ;)

    Tempting fate, hey?

  • Sick bastard (Score:4, Funny)

    by Iriel ( 810009 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:46AM (#13931433) Homepage
    My copy is 24 seconds away from downloaded ;)

    Sure, brag about it because you got to post the story. Now that I'm reading about it, mine's 24,000 seconds.
    <griping>Curse you slashdot effect</griping>

  • 24 seconds? (Score:3, Funny)

    by dancallaghan ( 890674 ) <djc@djc.id.au> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:49AM (#13931457) Homepage
    Holy sh*t, Taco's still on dialup? It's only 6MB!
  • My experience with the first release of 1.5 was good overall, with the exception of one bug that forced me to roll back to the stable 1.0.7. For some reason, some hyperlinks would 'crash' a tab and the page on that tab would be all grey, nothing else. I couldn't close out the tab and it just stayed there until I finally closed out the entire browser window. I could continue to open other tabs and work, but I usually keep Firefox going for a week+ with all of the websites I've been visiting in tabbed wind

  • General comments... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lpangelrob ( 714473 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @08:56AM (#13931491)
    I generally do not test software until the release candidate stage, so this is my first experience with 1.5. Here are my thoughts:

    1. Nicer looking menus. A nice little visual bonus.
    2. Half my extensions are busted. TargetAlert, Flashblock, SessionSaver... those are the three most important disabled ones right now. Fortunately, it appears I no longer need SlashFix or Tab Mix (try dragging the tabs around).
    3. Finally, I can update more than one extension at a time.
    4. What's with the OS X-like preferences panel? It seems as though in the last year, more Windows applications have been going in that direction.
    5. Haven't tested out the memory leak issue yet. Leave Gmail open for a night, you'll see what I mean.

    • What's with the OS X-like preferences panel? It seems as though in the last year, more Windows applications have been going in that direction.

      I believe that this new schema aligns with some kind of GUI development standard that's been gaining popularity in the open source world. I fail to remember what that standard/method is called, but I'm sure a Slashdotter smarter than me will post a reply.

    • Someone on here suggested the Nightly Tester Tools Extension [blueprintit.co.uk] to force old extensions to work. I found it to be a lifesaver and works with just about every extension I've tried.

  • Spoke too soon (Score:3, Informative)

    by jgaynor ( 205453 ) <jon@gaAUDENynor.org minus poet> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:02AM (#13931521) Homepage
    Worked on all of my home machines well - choked to death on my work machine. Here's a nice screen:

    http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~jgaynor/images/ff.bmp [rutgers.edu]

    Google shows others (if only a few) have had this issue [google.com] with older moz builds.

  • Here's a small problem... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by WWWWolf ( 2428 ) <wwwwolf@iki.fi> on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:14AM (#13931640) Homepage

    This is kind of off-topic but also very much on topic, because it does involve firefox update.

    Does anyone know how to make SVG files, you know, scalable?

    If I put images to web pages with <img> tag, and specify width and height, the image gets scaled.

    But if I do what is recommended for SVG - that is, I create a PNG rendering of the image for backwards compatibility, then use <object data="foo.svg" ...><image src="foo.png" .../></object>, with width and height specified on both img and object tags, I get a properly scaled PNG image in Firefox 1.0 (which can't interpret the object type in question, so it falls back to the <img> tag, it as it should), and an improperly scaled SVG image in Firefox 1.5 and all other SVG browsers. Some SVG-enabled browsers (MSIE with AdobeSVG, FF1.0 with Inkscape plugin) show original-size SVG images, FF1.5 seems to be really nice and shows scrollbars on the image.

    I tried making a small SVG file which uses <foreignObject> to scale the picture, but it didn't seem to work at all with SVG images in FF1.5, plus, it was an awful hack!

    So what's supposed to be the web-standards-compliant trick of placing and arbitrary-sized SVG image on a web site, then having the browser scale the frigging scalable vector graphic file to the specified width and height?

    I've looked around everywhere, nobody seems to know - anybody here know?

    • Re:Here's a small problem... (Score:4, Informative)

      by jeff_schiller ( 877821 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:54AM (#13931977) Homepage

      It's possible I misunderstood you, but I think the problem may be that the SVG image itself is specifying the size. Look at the element and see if the width/height are being specified. Ideally, the <svg> element should state width="100%" and height="100%". Then this should allow the user agent to properly scale the SVG image inside an <object> tag by specifying the <object>'s width/height. However if the <svg> element specifies width="400px", then maybe you're stuck because the author of the SVG has stated the width is 400 pixels, end of story.

      I can't remember what the behavior of the SVG or HTML spec say with respect to this when conflicts occur... Specs like CDF [w3.org] will help to clarify some of these issues.

  • Of IT IS popular browser?? Is that what you meant?
  • Windows 2000 and Beta 2. Did the Help > Update, and it downloaded 600Kb file, did the install, FF restarted and then it prompted me to download another update, which was 6Mb, and that got installed. Then FF restarted again and is asking to check for an update again, and while its looking it is just scrolling and not getting or finding anything to download.

  • All I want is... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by frankcow ( 925500 )
    1. Plug that stupid memory leak that has FireFox occupying 175MB of RAM after a few hours, and pushing me towards Opera
    2. Hurry up and release Minimo 1.0!!!

  • Download (Score:5, Funny)

    by Frankie70 ( 803801 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @09:42AM (#13931875)
    My copy is 24 seconds away from downloaded

    So you will be reading Zonk's dupe of this story on your
    newly downloaded & installed shiny Firefox.
  • I switched back to Mozilla solely because Mozilla uses a single text input field for both URLs and search (eg. Google). That field is like a commandline - not only can I type (and edit) URLs, but I can Google searches on those URLs (with site:), do math, unit conversions, definitions, etc. All of which produce linked webpages in the pane below. I want more CLIWWW action, like the idled XMLterm [sourceforge.net] project, not less. Firefox splits the URL/search field in two, even making the search field only a few characters w

    • Re:CLIWWW (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      1. go to google.com
      2. right-click the search input box
      3. select "add a keyword for this search..."
      4. type Name: "Google", Keyword: "g", Create In: "Quick Searches"
      5. type "g KEYWORDS" or "g 2+2" in the address bar
      6. optionally, use toolbar customization to remove the extra search box.
      • That is totally hot!

        *kisses Mozilla goodbye*

        Is there documentation somewhere I can use to explain that feature to others? And what other tricks will you share, oh wizard?

    • Re:CLIWWW (Score:3, Informative)

      by Misch ( 158807 )
      Set up a quick search for google then.

      Create a new bookmark, enter:
      http://www.google.com/search?q=%25s [google.com]

      for the location, and a short keyword... like "gg"

      Then when you go into the address bar, just type "gg search terms"
    • I switched back to Mozilla solely because Mozilla uses a single text input field for both URLs and search (eg. Google).

      Indeed. It's something that I don't even think about until I go and use Firefox on one of my other machines. Then I remember why I'm still using Mozilla for mail/news/web rather then using the split Thunderbird/Firefox.

      • Other replies to my post [slashdot.org] show how to set a keyword (like "g") in the Firefox URL field that will query Google (or other searches, presumably) with the subsequent arguments. So we get our unified text interface, just with an extra couple of keys after <Ctrl>-L, and without down-arrowing (possibly through a long list of cached URLs) to the search entry at the bottom of the dropdown list.
  • I stopped using 1.5b2 because it seemed like the tab focus issue was getting WORSE as time progressed. I'd be working and suddenly the current tab wouldn't respond to keypresses or clicks. Then I'd switch to another tab and see that IT had been getting the input.

    I was assured this had been fixed in b2, but it clearly had not. I'm not about to trust RC1 until someone can tell me for SURE this problem has been fixed, once and for all.

  • Portable Firefox 1.5 RC1 (Score:3, Informative)

    by CritterNYC ( 190163 ) on Wednesday November 02, 2005 @11:07AM (#13932681) Homepage
    I've also released a test version of Portable Firefox based on the new release for anyone that would like it portable... or anyone that wants to try it out without messing with their local profile or Profile Manager.

    Portable Firefox: Deer Park 1.5 RC1:
    http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/ deer_park/ [johnhaller.com]

    For the unfamiliar, Portable Firefox allows you to carry your whole web browser along with all your bookmarks and extensions with you on an iPod, USB thumbdrive, portable hard drive or any other portable media. You can plug it right into any Windows computer and use it just like you would on your own. It is a repackaged version of the popular Mozilla Firefox browser designed with portability in mind, so it has all the same great features of Firefox, but there's nothing to install.

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