IBM Announces "Blog-Spotting" Software 118
notesdude writes to tell us InternetNews is reporting that IBM has announced new "Blog-Spotting" software that will allow the monitoring of blogs, wikis, news feeds, consumer review sites, newsgroups, and other community-generated content. From the article: "People can share and spread opinions faster than ever before and that's accelerated the impact of public opinion on businesses"
Another Time Sink (Score:4, Funny)
Great just what I need to fill those empty hours between my wife, kids, kids activities, work, writing proposals for more work, graduate studies, my property, my animals, and my hobbies.
I just abandon that huge waste of time I call sleep so that I can stay current on my Blog-Spotting.
Blogspotting (Score:5, Funny)
This reminds me of something [imdb.com]...
Re:Blogspotting (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Blogspotting (Score:1)
Not just blogs (Score:2)
Greeaaat. Wikis too. The only thing lamer than blogs [asciiartfarts.com].
Re:Not just blogs (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not just blogs (Score:2)
Re:Another Time Sink (Score:1)
http://www.realmeme.com/Main/evilindex/corporatio
A more sophisticated abstract model -
http://www.realmeme.com/Main/theory101/sentiment.
Re:Another Time Sink (Score:1)
Re:Another Time Sink (Score:2)
Evolution of software and the web (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, this is probably a lot easier with blogs than with forums, since so many blogs provide RSS or ATOM feeds and there's a huge feed ping/search/index infrastructure in place with sites ranging from Ping-o-Matic to Syndic8 to Feedster and Technorati. So the search part is practically off-the-shelf.
Re:Evolution of software and the web (Score:5, Insightful)
Its not evolution... (Score:3, Funny)
Its intelligent design...
Of course Windows could be used as the counter argument.
Re:Its not evolution... (Score:1)
Re:Evolution of software and the web (Score:1)
I wonder how the software will tell if the blog/forum/post/whatever has a positive comment about the product. If the GameFaqs message boards are any indicator, they'll list software popularity by punctuation in a subject. [gamefaqs.com]
negative/positive? (Score:1)
As for the rest, it depends.. Well, the question is, what is negative? and maybe we want to find negative posts? lets say you are customare care for a company.. you want to find negative posts about your company, no? So, in this case, finding negative posts is positive. I guess Einstein was right
Boardtracker for forums.. (Score:1)
boardtracker.com [boardtracker.com] already does all the scanning, alerts and search etc. for forums very nicely.
Re:Evolution of software and the web (Score:2)
Vobbo (Yay video blogs!!!@a1!) [vobbo.com] allows custom RSS feeds for any term. A G-rated example would be something like: this search for 'Pugs' [vobbo.com]
Oh boy... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, you too can now easily track all those slamming your product, no matter how much it might deserve public scorn. Have your lawyer on speed dial, because it's time to stop that pesky public from interfering with your business model by commenting on such silly things as "quality."
Re:Oh boy... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh boy... (Score:1)
Re:Oh boy... (Score:2)
Yes, there would absolutely be no legitimate reason for a company to do this. Blogs, many of which are unsigned, are truly the worlds most reliable source for all information on those evil corporations.
Re:Oh boy... (Score:2)
Geez, it seems no one has a sense of humour any more. I guess I should have specifically ended with a </silly> tag....
Re:Oh boy... (Score:2)
Re:Oh boy... (Score:2)
All this software will allow companies to do is track the reaction of the public to something they do/release/say or any topic they're interested in. I think you'll find this will be used more as
Re:Oh boy... (Score:3, Insightful)
OR
"Have your marketing people on speed dial, so that you can try to take advantage of people's opinions and correct your mistakes before they get too big. Instant global feedback from the people who buy your products."
I see this as the same as almost any new technology - it can be used for good or for evil.
Better use for the technology? (Score:4, Interesting)
My current search problem. (Score:1)
Also, sites have gotten better at being able to fool google with non relevant terms.
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:4, Insightful)
Why? Depending what you were searching for (especially local establishments that aren't chains) you might come across personal websites or blogs that offer far more informative listings for various businesses than you would find anywhere else.
Yeah, you may not want to hear my comments about a particular location, but you can at least be safe in the knowledge that regardless of the lack of a Google search presence for a particular location, you will likely find the link (if it exists) for any number of local places.
I believe that when you search for a local pizza place in my area (Carbone's Pizza Lakeville) you will find me first (with a link to their URL) and then 19 spots down you will find them, sorta...
Me? I'm all for those results showing up.
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
I'm all for free speech and think that everyone should be able to post whatever they want on the web. However, I would love it if a search engine would allow
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
problem solved. though you might want to omit the -journal if you're searching for something in a newspaper.
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
> utter crap.
Why so optimistic?
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
And this differs from the Web at large how, exactly?
-PS
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:1)
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never had blogs clogging up my results, unless an entry is actually relevant. Yet I often hear people claim their results are filled with irrelevant blog entries, so I'm curious what the difference is. Can someone give me an example?
By far the biggest problem for me is spam/advertising sites that fool Google, and then occasionally forum posts (although in mo
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
Re:Better use for the technology? (Score:2)
Oh joy.... (Score:5, Insightful)
i.e Ikea uses Blogspotter (or it's open-source alternative Spogblotter), finds any blog that mentions Ikea, and likkity-split everyone who visits these blogs can read about the best deals on ottoman's "only at Ikea SATURDAY SATURDAY SATURDAY".
Will the boss use it? (Score:2)
Wait, don't you mean... (Score:1)
New? (Score:1)
Re:New? (Score:5, Informative)
RSS requires a source that provides the RSS feed. Some RSS aggregators do screen-scraping and such to aggregate data from various sources that don't directly support RSS. Most of these, however, need to know quite a bit about a specific non-RSS web site and how it formats its data before they can do much with it.
The idea here seems to be for the tool to do a search to find all the blogs (and maybe web sites in general) that cover your chosen subject matter, and then have enough "smarts" to do screen-scraping (or something on that order) to provide you with an aggregation on all of them without requiring a lot of prior knowledge about the site and its formatting.
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The universe is a figment of its own imagination.
How is this new? (Score:1, Offtopic)
RSS is a format for syndicating news and the content of news-like sites, including major news sites like Wired, news-oriented community sites like Slashdot, and personal weblogs. But it's not just for news. Pretty much anything that can be broken down into discrete items can be syndicated via RSS: the "recent changes" page of a wiki, a changelog of CVS checkins, even the revision hist
Re:How is this new? (Score:5, Insightful)
Aggregating RSS feeds based on keywords is easy. Separating them into positive and negative comments, and separating useful feedback from random spouting off, is a lot harder, especially in software.
Re:How is this new? (Score:5, Interesting)
It's another step towards the semantic web [semanticweb.org].
Re:How is this new? (Score:3)
Re:How is this new? (Score:2)
It sickens me, Barry. (Score:2)
Re:How is this new? (Score:2)
Best part of this offering? It's free.
But public opinion should be important, !censored (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:But public opinion should be important, !censor (Score:2)
I would say it is just as likely that it is an utterly uninformed opinion from someone with little understanding of the facts. Like people endlessly writing about how difficult to use Linux is.
Why would you ever assume that because it is simple and easy to broadcast your opinions to the entire planet that you actually have anything worth saying?
Re:But public opinion should be important, !censor (Score:2)
Re:But public opinion should be important, !censor (Score:2)
Re:But public opinion should be important, !censor (Score:2)
Thank the profit motive of capitalism and the backward animal tendencies of the human race, both of them in combination make a wonderful world doesn't it?
This will help defeat opression (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:This will help defeat opression (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:This will help defeat opression (Score:1)
Not terribly free and open I admit, and obviously you'd need to trust IBM to do the right thing, but too much transparency is a bad thing, at least for political voices in the Chinese hinterland.
I wonder if..... (Score:2)
Wood for the trees (Score:1)
"People can share and spread opinions faster than ever before and that's accelerated the impact of public opinion on businesses"
I'm finding it difficult to hear myself think in the mad clamour of opinions rattling around the web. At least on /. most of us are techies who might know what were talking about but if you listen to every opinion - well, as the old saying goes, opinions are like assoles, everyone has got one and there mostly full of shit.
Unless you're ---- (Score:1)
Unless of course, you're name is SONY, in which case it just means you can ignore public opinion faster.
Re:Wood for the trees (Score:2)
Assumption, it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Desired, software that spreads wisdom.
Therefore, the software desired is to remove foolishness. The best design I can think of is a tool to hack blogs and personal websites, then give it to whomever is determined to be wise and willing to irradicate foolishness. Or something similar.
Oh, and shut down all forums, like this one. Open
Corporate sabotage? (Score:1)
What a name! (Score:1)
Sturgeon's Law repealed! (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems to me that a blog is (usually) a page put up by someone who thinks his ideas are so important that we'll overlook the fact that he can't spel or grammer.
Recently, I was treated to the idea that Wikipedia (the canonical source of non-canonical information on the Internet) is going to be dead-treed and sent to Africa. On the 'net, its lack of authority is considered acceptable because its defenders say nobody should rely on it exclusively. What happens in the bush? If we were shipping substandard pharmaceuticals to Africa there'd be moral outrage, but substandard info is apparently OK.
Slashdot? Not news for nerds anymore. Witness the posting counts: They're highest on the non-nerdy posts (which just keep coming). Why do I need ID from every angle on /. when it's on the front page of CNN? But put up an article on routers and DNS, and it's 80 mostly uninformed posts.
Sturgeon's Law needs to be revised: Now 98% of everything is crap. IBM seems to be building a crapfilter and connecting its users to the wrong output.
Re:Sturgeon's Law repealed! (Score:2)
It seems to me that this is a stupid generalisation.
A weblog is nothing more than a website with articles published on a regular basis, arranged in reverse chronological order, usually with the option of commenting.
How anybody can judge anything about the quality of something merely by knowing that it's a weblog is beyond me. Doesn't t
Re:Sturgeon's Law repealed! (Score:2)
Re:Sturgeon's Law repealed! (Score:2)
I'd assume the major reason that Wikipedia is considered non-canonical is the possibility of trolls defacing the page and putting in false information. A book on paper would be difficult to hack remotely. Plus, I assume any dead tree version will go through a formal editing and review process, making it canonical.
Re:Sturgeon's Law repealed! (Score:1)
Sounds just like people posting on Slashdot
I think the problem is people only see "blog" as being one particular type: The type where someone runs a blog on a standalone website, and posts opinions that presumably he hopes people will read, but hardly anyone ever does, I agree is rather sad.
But many of them are read by many people. Not because t
Harness the power of the Internet (Score:2)
Druggies? (Score:2)
a good thing? (Score:1)
Isn't keeping an eye on the big bussiness a good thing? The easier it is for people to spread the word on bussinesses and their tactics, i imagine the more "power" people would have on the consumer market. Granted this softwere could be used as posted above to create negative responses to products, but at the same time we could more easily watch blogs about company actions and polocies. I know I for one am
Re:a good thing? (Score:1)
Re:a good thing? (Score:1)
organizational nervous system (Score:1)
Yay! (Score:2)
Please sell it to Google (Score:2)
TWW
Not all blogs created equal (Score:1)
This is new? (Score:2)
BlogPulse using an RSS reader (Sharpreader, in my case).
IBM's service sounds like it is essentially dong the same thing, and then summarizing the results
a bit. I don't really see any significant added value over using these existing services.
and for forums.. (Score:1)
Add boardtracker [boardtracker.com] to your arsenal - it scans forums and can send you alerts by email and jabber based on your keywords and also has rss feeds of course.
Re:This is new? (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, this DOES assume that a comuter can analyze written language and pull actual meaning from it. Sarcasm is probably sure to throw a monkey wrench into the whole works, though. Hell, sarcasm is often lost on human readers; I don
BlogSpotting (Score:5, Funny)
Isn't this already known as an Aggregator? (Score:2)
Just to help IBM out, here are a few I'm familiar with - your mileage may vary:
FeedDemon [bradsoft.com] - yeah, to get your $25 worth it helps to OPML and how to transform XML, but that's what I like about it.
Straw [nongnu.org] - for when I'm in the Gnome .
BlogLines [bloglines.com] - web-native but with an API to die for.
AmphetaDesk [disobey.com] - around for a while, great if you like shooting your foot of in Perl.
NewsGator [newsgator.com] - for
I'm affraid I understand... nightmare.. (Score:1)
I mean, they are talking about a software. Not a service. That means everyone in their own home/biz will be scanning TONS of sites/feeds all the time in order to find the little that is relevant to them? Be it brand, product, Pop star, wha'eve'..
If that is correct, if indeed each 'user' will become a little search engine, than it will be a nightmare for sites. Instead of using search engines, people will full "spider" sites on
More Legal Landmarks approaching (Score:3, Insightful)
Some people flatly declare that anybody with a website is a publisher, period, and is therefore subject to the same rules and responsibilities as Time Warner, period. That argument would have made sense back in the days when the difficulty of becoming a publisher made it reasonable to presume a certain level of sophistication and awareness of the legal liabilities. But it's a stretch to make those same assumptions today about your aunt when she signs up on BlogSpot and starts posting away. It's far too easy for the average person to step on the wrong toes on the web.
The law should be more like a safety railing than like a minefield. It shouldn't lay traps for plain citizens honestly expressing their personal opinions. It should adjust to people's new capabilities and to the way they naturally act. IANAL and I don't know the legal definition of "damage" from other people's words, but I think it should allow for normal, natural expression on a larger scale than it probably does now, and oblige us to exercise more tolerance toward other people's public statements.
We are going to be seeing more and more cases of one person or entity attacking another in court because of things said on the Web. The outcomes of those cases will have a huge effect on our freedom to use the web to express opinions. I hope the judges and juries have the wisdom to look beyond single cases and think about the bigger picture. I really don't want the web to be a happy hunting ground for legal predators, waiting for me to make a slip and say the wrong thing so they can take away my house.
Villagers with Pitchforks (Score:2)
With IBM's new technology, thousands of villagers can be gathered with the click of a button. Added value to pitchfork and torch supplies through direct targeted advertisement.
Re:Villagers with Pitchforks (Score:1)
Back to the meat of my original post. (Score:1)
Can the feds use it on email/slashdot comments? (Score:1)
Blog-Spotting... (Score:2)
But then "blog" is hardly an appetizing word in itself.
OK, how do I set "ignoreblogs=true"? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Yes, sometimes news breaks on a blog, but mostly, it's just drivel.
Donning my tinfoil hat ... (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't a consumer "time saver." It's a weapon for corporations to police the internet.
Plug in this sort of technology and you can keep track of your blogging employeees. Are they bad-mouthing the boss? Obviously engaged in something that the company could claim as intellectual policy? Organizing a union? Busted.
This will automate the troll for IP and trademark infringments. More amusingly, though: now corporations can keep a sharp eye peeled for misbehaving customers. Bitch abour Mega-Mart's pricing or shoddy products, and you might get a Cease and Desist. Or a slander suit.
Ah, technology in the service of the powerful! How it warms the hearts of lawyers everywhere.
Damn, this aluminum beanie gets warm fast.
Re:Donning my tinfoil hat ... (Score:1)
Similar services (Score:1)
What IBM is really try to sale this for: (Score:1)
Don't be fooled by their sales pitch.
A friend's startup tried this years ago (Score:2)
The idea was to do basically what IBM has announced: automated spidering of websites, in an effort to automatically gauge public opinion about a given topic.
Intended uses were: corporate image monitoring, public relations, marketing, early warning about negative public opinion, politics, etc.
The distinctive thing is that it used natural language processing, in an effort to learn the tone and emotion behind the writings
IBM needs to watch (Score:1)
Re:RSS? (Score:2)
now, some software can do this sort of thing already, but it needs a pretty good idea (that you typically have to manually input) of how the data is laid out on the page. this would do it automaticly. sounds pretty good IMO, just so long as it's free and/or open source.
Re:Spotting (Score:2)