GIMP's 10th Anniversary Splash Contest 171
Lalakis writes "Barely in time for GIMP's tenth birthday is the 10th Anniversary GIMP Splash Contest. This new contest requires a tutorial with the submissions, so get out your favorite text editor and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do. Submit those entries and wait to see if there is a gimp-2.2.10 with your entry as the very special release splash. Here are all the current submissions.
The contest will be open until Sunday the 27th of November, at which point the winner will be announced and committed to CVS. Happy Birthday GIMP!"
Splash the gimp (Score:2, Funny)
Well wake em up!
Re:Splash the gimp (Score:1)
"Submissions The contest is now closed. You can view the current submissions in the gallery or in the public voting system. Results The jury has now made it's choice and we have a winner: "work in progress..." by Bill Luhtala has been choosen as the splash image for Gimp 2.2."
Somebody better wake up Commander Taco and let him know.
Homer: Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the ani
Re:Splash the gimp (Score:1)
homer: Doh!
Happy Birthday GIMP (Score:1, Redundant)
This can't be right (Score:3, Funny)
I refuse to accept this arbitrary number!
Re:This can't be right (Score:2)
Birthday Song! (Score:4, Funny)
Happy Birthday to you!
You like tight black leathers...
And belong in a zoo!
Re:Birthday Song! (Score:2)
Appropriately enough, given a story about The Gimp.
Fancy text editor (Score:3, Insightful)
I looked at those current submissions, and if I could get my text editor to do that, I wouldn't need any fancy competition to validate my skillz!
Re:Fancy text editor (Score:2, Informative)
This new contest requires a tutorial with the submissions, so get out your favorite text editor and show us all of the beautiful things you can make your GIMP do.
Re:Fancy text editor (Score:1)
He probably read it and was still confused, given that the `journalist` used the word `show` when he meant to use `describe`.
Re:Fancy text editor (Score:1, Funny)
Trust me, he does anything I goddamned tell him to do.
Re:Fancy text editor (Score:2)
Ok, to actually see the images you'll need either a postscript viewer or a really great imagination (but then, to type postscript images directly in the editor, you probably need the latter anyway
Is it ok (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Is it ok (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Is it ok (Score:2)
Age shows (Score:2, Insightful)
No dynamic effect layers, the drawing tools are from CCCP, the color management still has got a lot to do, pdf importing isn't very good afaik,
Re:Age shows (Score:4, Funny)
But they're adding a new splash screen!
Re:Age shows (Score:1)
Re:Age shows (Score:1)
dude, it's free. don't like the development status? lend a hand [gimp.org].
Re:Age shows (Score:1)
Laugh! It's a joke!
Maybe.
qz
Re:Age shows (Score:3, Funny)
The drawing tools are from the USSR?
Re:Age shows (Score:2)
Yeah. And it's all free as in vodka.
Oh ok. Sorry about that...
Re:Age shows (Score:2, Funny)
In Soviet Russia, the drawing tool is you!
Re:Age shows (Score:1)
Fallen behind??? GIMP never got past the competition.
Anyway, considering there's no corporation to whip the development along, GIMP folks have succeeded bolting in a lot of what I would consider basic necessities of drawing. Everything else is just extra that would be cool to have but not really necessary.
Sure, additional drawing tools and such would be nice, but at this price, I'm not complaining.
Re:Age shows (Score:1)
Re:Age shows (Score:2)
Yeah, that one's a bit of a trap if you're coming from Photoshop. Actually, the crop tool works fine, but by default it's set to crop a single layer, not the whole image. Unselect the "Current Layer Only" checkbox and it'll work like Photoshop from then on.
Not impressed with the newer Gimp (Score:2)
I think I prefer the older Gimp (1.2). I've tried a couple versions from the newer 2.x series, and I think it's lost some of its quality. Sure adding Python-Fu is nifty and there's some nice eye-candy in the tools, but they've dropped some of the important features, and I'm noticing more color artifacts in my images after I make some simple changes.
e.g. Image->Colors->Invert from v1.2 has disappeared. Filters->Colors->Value Invert is a poor repl
Redirect your efforts. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:1)
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:1)
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:1, Insightful)
Newsflash! The days of 10-minute feature hacks to pissant little GNU utilities are long gone. Learning the codebase for any non-trivial application (of which the GIMP certainly qualifies) is not a 'get off your duff' job. It took me months to gain enough familiarity to the GIMP's structure before I was even in a position to make any significant changes - and for most of that time I was hacking at it full time. Ask anyone else wh
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:1)
Re:Redirect your efforts. (Score:2)
No, actually, I modded you troll and am now posting to remove that moderation.
The reason I modded you as "troll" in the first place was because I was sure that no-one could really be so stupid as to think that just because a person could produce a graphic for a splash screen, they must also be able to program and write in 16 bit support, and it was just a matter of priorities. Surely anyone with a brain would be able to realise that they would be completely dif
Thank you for windows port (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Thank you for windows port (Score:3, Insightful)
In the "war on piracy", there is no better weapon than Open Source
a. you can get it for free.
b. it does almost exactly what you want and,
c. you can even have a say in what it does next! if you're that way inclined
Not funny (Score:1)
Re:Not funny (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Not funny (Score:2)
Re:Not funny (Score:2)
Re:Not funny (Score:2)
Re:Not funny (Score:2)
ICBW, but I'm not aware of many low-end digital point & shoot camera which support some form of raw output.
Re:Not funny (Score:2)
NO (Score:3, Informative)
Re:NO (Score:3, Informative)
Re:NO (Score:1)
Re:NO (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:NO (Score:4, Insightful)
On a related note, GIMP startup takes about 3 to 5 seconds here. See also http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/index.php/2005-11-05/g
Just submit your own entry (Score:2)
Tigert + Gimp == awesome (Score:5, Interesting)
All in all, without tigert's demos - I'd have relegated gimp to being a glorified paint application instead of the cool tool for web-desginer it has recently become (and I'm not a professional web-dev, but I still like to muck around with gimp). Jimmac is good, but Tigert was and is the gimp wizard I shall worship for ever.
Another archive of splash screens. (Score:3, Informative)
Time flies (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Time flies (Score:5, Insightful)
Besides, professionals wouldn't use Gimp even if it supports CMYK. They'd still use Photoshop because that's what they were thaught at school. Implementing CMYK wouldn't solve anything at all - the peopel who complain would just move on to new things to complain about.
Re:Time flies (Score:2)
As an amateur photographer, this in my opinion outweighs CMYK as the biggest drawback of the GIMP.
Re:Time flies (Score:2)
Cinepaint (formerly Film Gimp) supports higher bit depths... I was under the impression that this would eventually make it's way back to Gimp proper, but I don't know the status of that.
Re:Time flies (Score:2)
Re:Time flies (Score:2)
Re:Time flies (Score:2)
I don't. That's the point.
wine (Score:1)
GIMP is no wimp (Score:1)
No splash screen (Score:3, Interesting)
At least it doesn't steal the keyboard focus like OpenOffice does.
I would submit for the contest... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I would submit for the contest... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I would submit for the contest... (Score:1)
Re:I would submit for the contest... (Score:2)
On the other hand, it would be usefull to be able to preview any operation before committing it without leaving the dialog, and seeing an instant (or as fast as your machine can handle it) preview as soon as you modify a setting in the dialog, such as moving a slider.
Re:I would submit for the contest... (Score:1)
Script-fu > Shadow > Drop shadow..., change settings, hit OK.
Have fun with the contest!
I use GIMP. (Score:1)
Yes, it need improvment. Yes, its harder to use than say Photoshop, but if you can't plunk down $100 or $200 for a professional commercial software program then GIMP is just good enough to do the job.
For web design its perfect.
Re:I use GIMP. (Score:2)
I disagree. I think the Win32 version should use the standard Win32 dialogs.
Re:I use GIMP. (Score:2)
Needed features (Score:4, Informative)
2. Contiguous fill. When pestered about this the answer from GIMP developers was that the paintbucket code was "too optimized" (i.e. obfuscated, undocumented) to modify. If I select a region and pour paint inside it, the paint shouldn't leave the margins of the selection.
3. Less crappy documentation on creating plugins.
4. For shits&giggles, an LSS import/export filter for those of us who like to make our own ISOLINUX splash screens (the converter's in Perl, how tough could it be)?
I know webcomic artists whose refusal to use the GIMP is completely based on #2. In Photoshop, it's a checkable option. In Fireworks, it isn't.
5. At least one major feature that is missing from Photoshop (like, say, selective region compression in JPEG, which has been part of the spec from the beginning and would allow you to set a different lossy for a region containing text).
Re:Needed features (Score:5, Insightful)
For me, this is one of the biggest mistakes the GIMP developers ever made, but it also shows a fundamental problem in their attitude: instead of welcoming additions and new users scratching their own itches, they locked them out and told them they weren't welcome. Of course, you do have to focus on what you want to accomplish in a project and avoid feeping creaturism, but rejecting features that are clearly useful and within the scope of a project... that's arrogance.
As someone else said, it actually shows that GIMP is 10 years old by now. It's still a useful tool, and I actually use GIMP 1.2 almost daily (I also have GIMP 2.2 installed, but I always found it slower and more clumsy than the earlier versions), but the idea to produce a free Photoshop replacement... that was missed long ago, and without some radical changes on both the code and the project management level, I doubt it's ever going to happen.
I hate to say it, but GIMP is looking old, and considering that it's still considering a kind of flagship among open source application, it's making us all look bad. Is this really the best we can come up with?
Re:Needed features (Score:4, Informative)
And no, neither FilmGimp nor CinePaint have CMYK support. That has never been the intention behind this project. Instead it was about adding support for 16bit color depth. That is of course an important feature and at some point it is going to be added to GIMP as well. I can't tell you when because it simply depends on when someone will finish the remaining bits that are needed to bring GEGL into shape so that GIMP can start to use it.
If you think that GIMP is looking old, perhaps you should really consider to replace that old copy of GIMP 1.2 you are using.
Re:Needed features (Score:2)
Maybe from the CinePaint home page, as mentioned in the AC comment below [slashdot.org]? Quoted from that comment:
This statement is indeed present on the CinePaint home page: section "Where CinePaint Came From", middle of third paragraph. If the
Re:Needed features (Score:4, Informative)
That's a rather biased view of how things happened. I suppose that some CinePaint developers would like to describe the history like that. But looking at the archives of the GIMP mailing lists reveals a different story: Film Gimp started from a fork of an old version of the GIMP 1.x (based on GTK1), while the main development was taking place on what would eventually become GIMP 2.x (based on GTK2). Film Gimp development stagnated for a couple of years, until a new guy (Robin Rowe) appeared and decided to revive it.
When he brought this up on the developer's list, the consensus was that it would be much better to take the best bits of the old Film Gimp codebase and merge them into the new architecture that was developed for GIMP 2.x instead of continuing to work on the old Film Gimp and making the fork diverge even further from the GIMP. There were also some arguments why the design of the old Film Gimp and the way it was storing image data was not appropriate for the GIMP and would have to be adapted instead of being merged directly, but I'm not sure that I understand the details of that. Anyway, it looks like he decided to go ahead and work on the old fork despite the suggestion from the GIMP developers. Later, that code was renamed CinePaint. Also, CinePaint distanced itself from the GIMP in very obvious ways (check some old versions of the CinePaint home pages in the web archive). So although the GIMP developers could have handled this in a better way, a lot of issues could have been solved if the features needed for the movie industry had been integrated in the then-current GIMP instead of reviving an old fork like Robin did.
Just check the archives of the GIMP mailing lists and you will see a different story than the simplistic view that you just described. Also, this statement on the CinePaint home page is just a (bad) joke: "Later the film industry was told no, that GIMP wasn't interested in meeting the film industry's requirements because it wasn't what existing GIMP users cared about." This is very different from what I understand after browsing the archives of the mailing lists (although I can never know if some other discussions took place behind the scenes). Anyway, if you are interested in checking this for yourself, the GIMP list archives are linked from http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html [gimp.org] and you can just browse through the discussions around the times when Robin posted something on the developers lists (check mail-archive for search, or manual browse through the old XCF lists). There were a few personal attacks from both sides, though. So these guys should learn to get together in a better way. But still, it looks like Robin is as much (if not more) to blame as the GIMP developers.
Re:Needed features (Score:4, Informative)
Browsing through these archives is not so easy, given their limited search features. But anyway, as I was (unfortunately) involved in some of these discussions, I can confirm that the story is very different from what is presented on the CinePaint home page. My opinion may be biased in this case, but I think that it is unfair to blame the GIMP developers for the CinePaint fork (or more exactly, for the lack of a merge between Film Gimp and GIMP).
Re:Needed features (Score:2)
It sounds like Robin Rowe came along and wanted to add new features to Film Gimp. How hard is it to add new features to an existing project? I don't know if it's easy, but it's doable. Compare that to merging that fork back to something with which it has hugely diverged (or merging the important bits back, or whatever)--that's a huge task that is not going to immediately help introdu
Re:Needed features (Score:2)
Re:Needed features (Score:3, Informative)
Hold down SHIFT, or select the radio button for this kind of fill (which is labelled and has an annotation indicating that it can be activated with SHIFT).
Re:Needed features (Score:2)
Re:Needed features (Score:2)
JPEG selective region compression (Score:2)
I don't think "selective region compression" is part of the JPEG spec. Care to elaborate?
Add rounded corners to your submission (Score:1)
http://paininthetech.com/creating_rounded_corners
Please please please submit something. (Score:1)
If you have a creative bone in your body, please submit something.
Re:Please please please submit something. (Score:2)
(I don't claim I can produce any usable graphics -- but considering that my thing is among two best submissions at the moment, you're really right.)
Outstanding! (Score:1)
Inkscape's cool too + SVG (Score:2, Informative)
Exactly (Score:4, Funny)
Birthday present (Score:1, Funny)
We got you EXACTLY what you wanted for your birthday! A slashdotted server! Enjoy!
Nice try... (Score:1)
The proactive measures has been taken; The requested URL
can someone more cool than me (Score:2)
i had to up my schizophrenia meds because of it when i scanned this story
What about lazy initialisation? (Score:2, Insightful)
First, let me congratulate the Gimp for its 10 years.
Second, the splash screen is really annoying as well as slow application loading. What abou lazy initialisation of everything that is not needed at the moment and is not essential for basic application run? Just load information about plug-ins, such as name, description, menu entries or tool icons at app startup. Then load tools/plug-ins/scripts when the user first needs them.
When I launch an application I want to use it immediately. I am fine with half
Re:What about lazy initialisation? (Score:2)
The gallery link doesn't work. (Score:2)
Frankly, they should change the name (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Frankly, they should change the name (Score:2)
Re:Frankly, they should change the name (Score:2)
Facts: the name is offensive to some people (disclaimer: not me), and you've known this for at least 6 years [svlug.org]. Rather than issuing belligerent Bush-like denials, you'd be MUCH better off by saying "we're sorry you're offended, but that's not our inte
Re:Let me save you some time... (Score:2)
Re: Submissions (Score:3, Funny)
Is it OK to submit Photoshopped entries?
Re:10 years of Innovation (Score:4, Insightful)