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RIAA vs Linux and DVDs 415

PlayfullyClever writes "The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction, using well-proven tactics as explained in Preventing DVD Playback on Linux Like Prohibition in the 1920's. Are their heavy-handed tactics to lock up and control everything we touch signs of plain old human stubborness?" Or more likely- greed.
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RIAA vs Linux and DVDs

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  • by fembots ( 753724 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:42PM (#14160390) Homepage
    I did read the friendly article but couldn't quite connect RIAA with Linux and DVDs.

    There's no mention of RIAA/music/movie in the article, and hardly any mention of Linux.

    So what's happening now? Is it some kind of bullets, leathers and baked beans? Someone please enlighten me.
    • I think you have to read the related article to get the RIAA link. {a href=http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/48802 />The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact
      • by brufar ( 926802 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:52PM (#14160503)
        • by Anonymous Coward
          For the love of god, don't read that article. I just did and I swear it was so utterly terribly it actually made me dumber. I RTFA from the original post and went away thinking that it would probably be the worst piece of nonsense I encountered this month (I don't read blogs, or I'd encounter a lot more similarly craptacular "articles"), boy did this prove me wrong. I wish I could un-read it.
        • I think you have to read the related article to get the RIAA link. {a href=http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/48802 />The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact
          The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact
          How to get twice the karma or whoring without looking like you do.
    • Of course not, we slashdot hates the RIAA more than the MPAA.

      So you simply substitute organizations, destroys any logical point TOP had, but will cause a lively enough reaction among hte slashdot faithful for a good 20-30 minutes of rabid posting.
    • by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:52PM (#14160511)
      He's talking about the DMCA being as enforceable as Prohibition. The RIAA and MPAA and Linux and DVDs certainly are involved with the DMCA.
    • by Golias ( 176380 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:53PM (#14160521)
      Prohibition in the 1920s was actually very successful at preventing DVD playback on Linux, so I guess the thinking is that it's a pretty good model to go with.

      Unfortunately, it's kinda tricky:

      Step One: Don't invent the DVD yet.

      Step...

      D'oh!
      • by sd_diamond ( 839492 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @07:24PM (#14162332) Homepage

        I do know that the open-source liquor industry has gone way downhill since Prohibition was lifted.

        • Open Source Beer (Score:4, Informative)

          by Curunir_wolf ( 588405 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @10:00PM (#14163107) Homepage Journal
          I do know that the open-source liquor industry has gone way downhill since Prohibition was lifted.

          I think you're wrong about that, and I'll prove it with my Open Source Beer:

          • 4 oz. Victory Malt
          • 1 lb. Crystal Malt (10L)
          • 1 1/2 oz. Nugget
          • 1/2 oz. Nugget
          • 1/2 oz. Perle
          • 1 1/2 oz. Cascade
          • 7 lb. Canadian Bulk Light Malt Extract
          • 2 tsp. gypsum
          • White Labs California Yeast (WL001)

          Mash grain at 150 degrees in 80 oz. water for 20 minutes. Sparge with 80 oz. water at 170 degrees. Add extract, 1 1/2 oz. Nugget, 2 tsp. gypsum. Add water to about 3 gallons. Bring to a boil. Boil for 15 min., add 1/2 oz Nugget. Boil for 30 minutes, add 1/2 oz Perle. Boil for 15 minutes (total 1 hour boil).

          Cool to 75 degrees, then pitch yeast.

          Ferment for about 1 week, rack to secondary, add 1 1/2 oz. cascade.

          Allow secondary to ferment for about 1 week. Rack to priming bucket, adding about 5 oz. priming sugar (preferred) or dry malt extract. Bottle. Allow about 30 days before refrigeration.

          THIS RECIPE LICENSED UNDER THE GPL.

          There you go!

    • I'll yell you who... (Score:5, Informative)

      by rbochan ( 827946 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:12PM (#14160714) Homepage
      Submitter, aka PlayfullyClever trying to use the /. crowd's love for linux+entertainment to bump up his google page rank on the site he just registered yesterday?
      Why else would TFA have nothing to do with the submission?
      Bealtes-Beatles in disguise, with diamonds?

      FYI
      Domain Name: PLAYFULLYCLEVER.COM
      Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
      Updated Date: 30-nov-2005
      Creation Date: 30-nov-2005
      Expiration Date: 30-nov-2006

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:44PM (#14160414)
    .... besides making no sense whatsoever, is depressingly difficult to masturbate to.
  • by Shadow Wrought ( 586631 ) <.moc.liamg. .ta. .thguorw.wodahs.> on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:46PM (#14160439) Homepage Journal
    The executives making the decisions don't understand the technology and have fortunes built upon the success of Brittney Spears. They are trapped by their own business models and the only way out is something not only new and unproven but something that they can't wrap their brains around. Net result: fear. Fear of failure, destitution, and the loss of everything they have gained on the work of others. Fear.
    • by capt.Hij ( 318203 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:57PM (#14160567) Homepage Journal
      I have to disagree with this. This is about power. The record companies want to dictate how you use their product. They cannot get over the idea that once you purchase something it no longer belongs to them. This is why they call people "pirates" when they do what they want with their own stuff. Real pirates are thugs who forcibly board other people's property and take control over it which, by the way, is what Sony has done.

      Somebody needs to make a video of Sony DRM pirates sailing the intenet sea with Monty Python's tune of the Crimson Permanent Insurance sung in the background...

      • by bsartist ( 550317 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:32PM (#14160943) Homepage
        They cannot get over the idea that once you purchase something it no longer belongs to them.

        Likewise, there are a lot of folks on the other side of the fence, who can't get over the idea that purchasing a CD does not give them the right to distribute copies of that CD to a million of their closest friends.

        This is why they call people "pirates" when they do what they want with their own stuff.

        Pop quiz: Who went to the Supreme Court to defend the idea that a manufacturer of a device that can be used for piracy is not liable for the actions of end users who abuse it for such activity, so long as the device has "substantial non-infringing uses"? Answer: Sony, a member of both the RIAA and MPAA. Who, in the same case, helped establish the precedent that time-shifting is legal under the "fair use" provision of US copyright law? Again, Sony did.

        The *AA's have not, to the best of my knowledge, taken any sort of action against someone who was simply time- or media-shifting "their own stuff." In fact, as shown above, at least one member of these cartels has gone to a lot of trouble to defend your right to do just that.

        They have, on the other hand, filed many lawsuits where the target of the lawsuit was allegedly distributing copies of "stuff" without having obtained a legal license to do so. That's an entirely different kettle of fish.

        I dislike the media monopoly as much as anyone - in fact, I'd read and been alarmed by Bagdikian's "Media Monopoly" book before most of the people here had even heard of the RIAA or MPAA. But let's be realistic - straw-man arguments and paranoid, ill-informed rantings are not helpful to the cause.
        • When they got into producing content, they slipped us a root kit on a CD.

          Time and media shifting is becoming an issue because its becoming possible.

          What the **AAs don't want is to give us ownership of the 1,440 minutes a day.

          They fuck over the content originators, those artists who make the content, they make their money by screwing them with impossible contracts (its like an offer that the artist dare not refuse,) production costs and distribution costs which the artist has to pay for. They are the last '
      • by curunir ( 98273 ) * on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:36PM (#14160988) Homepage Journal
        While I agree that this is all about power, I believe you're confusing who they're trying to exercise power over.

        This is not about preventing piracy. It never has been. Every study shows that piracy doesn't cut into the amount of money they make. Those that pirate weren't likely buyers to begin with and some end up becoming buyers because they like what they downloaded and want it in a better form. What this is about is maintaining their hold on the distribution chain. The record labels are the middle men between the consumer and the artists. As technology continues to enable and simplify a direct connection between artists and consumers, the labels become less and less necessary.

        By holding these technologies back, what they are really doing is preserving the situation where artists are forced to go through them to be able to reach consumers. They're preserving the situation where they can force onerous contracts on artists that give that result in the labels receiving the vast majority of the profits from music sales. They're preserving the cartel arrangement that allows charging ~$15 for a plastic disc that costs < $0.50 to create. Home studios are already well within the capabilities of many artists and CD manufacturing can be purchased at very reasonable prices. These were once functions that only record labels could offer. Now the only thing they have left is the distribution network. Filesharing and other technologies that allow artists to market directly to their fans will eventually obviate the last function that labels provide and make them completely unncessary.

        That's what they're fighting. That's the power they're trying to maintain.
    • They are trapped by their own business models and the only way out is something not only new and unproven but something that they can't wrap their brains around.

      Reminds me of this oh-so-good book and movie, Fight Club:

      The things you own end up owning you.
      - Tyler Durden

      That got me thinking: "How about making things that own other people?"

      I guess it ends up in the same situation... People you own due to the things you make end up owning you.

    • Yeah- just call it FUD- fear uncertainty and doubt. "Nobody ever got fired for choosing IBM"- or in this case, sticking with the same model they've always had.

      -M
  • by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:46PM (#14160441)
    > The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction,

    ...it have no chance to survive, make its time?

    (Someone had to say it.)

  • Good analogy (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SlashAmpersand ( 918025 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:48PM (#14160458)
    TFA states that during Prohibition alcohol consumption fell initially, then rose to heights never before seen. P2P sharing was huge a few years ago. I don't have any data to back this up, but it seems to me that it's taken a pretty big fall. Is there going to be a rise similar to alcohol consumption during Prohibition? On the other hand, I can hardly wait to see Homer the mp3 Baron...
    • Re:Good analogy (Score:4, Informative)

      by Yartrebo ( 690383 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:51PM (#14160486)
      It hasn't. Bittorrent taken a bit hit, but other networks have taken up the slack. As of a few months ago, Emule/Edonkey was the number one system.

      It's still probably the greatest source of wealth creation on internet, and definitely is the greatest source of traffic.
      • wealth creation? i'm somewhat familiar with this capitalist fanboy term,
        but in what sense does emule/edonkey create wealth? it moves bits around.
        i'm sure its very nice.
  • The core issues we are up against are with the concepts of copyright and patent. Corporations want ownership of materials; Private individuals want free access those materials. Therein lies the battle. This is as perpetual as bipartisanship.
    • Private individuals want free access those materials

      Should read

      "Some private individuals want the people who produce all that shiny stuff to work for them for free."

      "Private individuals" that actually create and produce things for a living don't want free access. They probably want more flexible access to what they've purchased, and probably want their customers/audience to have some variation on the same. But they don't want it for free, because they also wish to make a living, and actually get th
    • by Liam Slider ( 908600 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:23PM (#14160849)
      Corporations want ownership of materials; Private individuals want free access those materials. Therein lies the battle.
      No, the private individuals want access to property they've already paid for. Corporations want control of property that isn't theirs without consent, and expects the owners to pay them for them to take control. Somewhat different battle here.
  • See subject.
  • by L0neW0lf ( 594121 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:51PM (#14160499)
    The article uses Prohibition as a comparison...but Prohibition was not a product of corporate greed. It isn't like Coca-Cola and PepsiCo. got together and said "Let's find a way to prohibit alcoholic beverages so that we can control what America REALLY ought to drink --our product!"

    Starting with a flawed analogy usually leads to a flawed article --as it did in this case.
    • Maybe the Hemp vs Cotton Growers would be a better analogy...

      IIRC - Hemp is a better fibre than cotton - at least FAR easier to grow, seeing as it grows like a weed (*cough* whoops, no pun intended). Which is why the cotton farmers "back then" didn't like it.

      • IIRC - Hemp is a better fibre than cotton - at least FAR easier to grow, seeing as it grows like a weed

        Hemp is _not_ a better fiber than cotton for most purposes, which is why back before it was banned in 1930 there were only about 1300 acres of land cultivated for hemp in the US and only a couple thousand tons total consumption (including imports), almost all of it used for rope. (And no, Dow didn't squash hemp use to promote its new nylon; nylon at that time was used almost exclusively in pantyhose, whic
    • "Starting with a flawed analogy usually leads to a flawed article --as it did in this case."

      Unless we really are living in the Matrix, it's doubtful there is an unflawed analogy that could be used in this context.
    • by Twanfox ( 185252 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:22PM (#14160834)
      Agreed. Having read the bulk of the article, I find a lot of claims and assumptions of the work stated without proof or even Common Sense reasoning. A few examples...

      It attempts to enforce an absolute value advantage where none exists and eventually prohibits mutually beneficial exchanges.

      If you increase enforcement, the courts will ease the penalties because judges will see the law as unfair based on the volume of cases they see.

      I'm curious what absolute value advantage is attempting to be enforced by the DMCA. Prohibition was an attempt to legislate morality, to remove a cause of crime, and failed to do so. I suppose I can see a similar case in the DMCA, but copyright is not morality, it is purely a legal right granted to content creators. Additionally, how does the DMCA prohibit mutually beneficial exchanges? It prevents you from breaking encryption in order to get at the underlying data in it's raw format. However, those people willing to pay and be approved for licensing of the decryption methods make the products that allow us to use this content. The only thing you are, in theory, denied is the raw data that is used to compile the movie. You are not denied access to view the movie, given an appropriate device to decode and display it, nor are you denied from purchasing the encrypted disk.

      The latter quote makes me laugh, though. How many murder cases would it take for judges to see that laws against murder are unfair? The law generally dictates the range of penalties allowed to the courts to decide, and few courts seem willing to judge the validity or constitutionality of laws when dealing with a case. However, I doubt very seriously that the simple number of cases will really influence the penalties handed out.

      There is a lot of talk in this article, and a lot of references to Prohibition as a mirror for the current situation. My view on copyright withstanding, this article makes a very poor case of proving why these kinds of laws are doomed to fail.

  • Wrong **AA? (Score:5, Informative)

    by angryflute ( 206793 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:52PM (#14160504) Homepage
    Shouldn't that be the MPAA, not the RIAA, which would have an issue with Linux circumventing the encryption of DVDs?
  • How can greed be the motivation when stifling distribution has provenly negative affect on sales. Greed is too convenient... threatened is more appropriate. Could mean suits will have to get real jobs.
  • RIAA (Score:3, Insightful)

    by OneSeventeen ( 867010 ) * on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:52PM (#14160509) Homepage Journal

    Sounds like it would be more the MPAA to me, but I agree with the first post, there isn't much of a mention of any assosication targeting Linux as an opponent needing to be overcome.

    I think the only thing that stands in the way of watching DVDs on Linux is the obvious difference in opinions on how Intelectual Property rights should be handled, which was briefly touched upon in the article.

    If only end-users didn't copy so many DVDs, Movie studios wouldn't feel the need to encrypt their movies. Of course, I also feel that by purchasing the DVD, I should also be purchasing the rights to view the DVD, which would include decoders for whatever operating system I use, but that's from an end-user standpoint, not a developer/legal standpoint.

    At the very least, DVDs should list system requirements if they are going to require more than just the hardware that reads data from the DVD in order to play them.

    • If only end-users didn't copy so many DVDs, Movie studios wouldn't feel the need to encrypt their movies.

      I really hope you are joking. How does encrypting a DVD stop it from being copied? You can make perfect duplicates of encrypted DVDs just fine without touching the encryption. It does exactly nothing to stop the copying and pirating of DVDs as is evidenced in countries around the world.

      The encryption is designed to stop two things. First it is designed to stop DVDs from being played in different r

  • by ScentCone ( 795499 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:52PM (#14160513)
    The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction

    Oh, please. Even the people who don't think they should have to pay for their expensively produced entertainment will have to realize that actual destruction of the entertainment industry will leave them without anyone really professional to rip off. I mean, you don't have to sleep with a copy of Atlas Shrugged to see the basic truth of it. The rubber has to meet the road someplace, and at some point the Peter Jacksons of the world will not be able to raise the cash for a Really Swell Giant Ape Movie.

    And before someone says that artistic patronage, bar gigs, miming in the streets and wearing sandals was good enough 2500 years ago, and real artists shouldn't care about financing actors and makeup artists, blahditty blah... oh, never mind. There, I've said it for you. It's not about whether or not there should be a rational way to play your DVD on your Linux laptop. There should be. The problem is the shrill tone (and glee) in comments like the original post. That does not help matters.
    • God Forbid we're deprived of yet another version of King Kong instead of several flavors of individual artistic expression...

      /Devil's Advocate, as I would likely never bother to observe anybody's crappy homemade movies until they hit some kind of Top 20 on a popular portal

    • At least with music we have moved to a model where you CAN afford to do a pro recording in your garage with 5 grand. That day is coming for movies as well. A family member of mine has a movie studio more or less. He does all his sets in CGI, then bluescreens everyone in. He sucks at it right now, but in 5 years he'll be dangerous, and in 25 years the technology will have caught up.

      Remember that the original purpose of movie studios and music companies was to provide funding to purchase equipment to artists, and channels to distribute music. If we don't need those services, these guys are out of business. With music that has already happened. You can distribute music online very cheaply, and a low-end masternig grade soundcard is $500.

    • Oh, please. Even the people who don't think they should have to pay for their expensively produced entertainment will have to realize that actual destruction of the entertainment industry will leave them without anyone really professional to rip off. I mean, you don't have to sleep with a copy of Atlas Shrugged to see the basic truth of it. The rubber has to meet the road someplace, and at some point the Peter Jacksons of the world will not be able to raise the cash for a Really Swell Giant Ape Movie.

      To an
  • I'll drink to that (Score:5, Informative)

    by digitaldc ( 879047 ) * on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:53PM (#14160519)
    Some history about the Linux flap:
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/archive/g arfinkel.txt [cmu.edu]

    Some other page I found by accident about file sharing:
    http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php [eff.org]

  • Nope. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by $RANDOMLUSER ( 804576 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:55PM (#14160538)
    > The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction

    Not a chance. They fought (and survived) through player pianos, sheet music, record players, radio stations, juke boxes and casette tapes. They'll still be around, greedily fighting the direct-neural-interface players 100 years hence.

  • by acherrington ( 465776 ) <acherrington@nOspAm.gmail.com> on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:55PM (#14160540)
    I was at blockbuster the other day and rented the Longest Yard, then took it home. Much to my suprise, the DVD blocked the watching of the movie on my computer. I took the DVD to blockbuster, and told them that I was cancelling my blockbuster pass because I was unable to watch movies on my computer (I have no normal TV as everything is ran through the computer using beyond TV). I figured that should put the most pressure on the MPAA. If blockbuster lobbies against MPAA because their revenue basis is dried up, it should make a good battle where only consumers win... i hope.
    • Don't know if your machine was running Linux or Windows, but
      if the latter than you had a legally licensed dvd player, and if
      the dvd refused to play then it wasn't really a dvd was it?
      (just like copy protected cd's are not really cds).

      BTW, many of the new portable dvd players are built with computer
      parts so such a dvd might not play on any of them either.
      Hope the studios are ready for angry hordes returning defective
      DVD's.
    • Honorable of you.

      However, what are the chances that the 17 year old behind the counter did anything with the information you gave him besides cancelling your account?

      • I posed that into a question for the clerk. "how do i run this on my computer?" The manager called later on to tell me he did not know. I told him I was going to cancel my account until it works. Manager passed it up the line seeking answers.
    • Much to my suprise, the DVD blocked the watching of the movie on my computer.

      I would have to think it was the other way around. You computer blocked your ability to play this DVD.

      The DVD hasn't got any idea what it is being played on. It doesn't change its bits when it's inserted into a computer DVD drive instead of a living room player. More likely the DVD contains some form of region coding that says don't play me on computers, and your computer player obliged it by refusing. I'd be angry at my co

    • The Longest Yard DVD has ArccoS copy protection [google.com] on it. Google it for more info. That's right, another copy protection scheme using bad blocks to prevent copying.
  • by Mr.Spaz ( 468833 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:55PM (#14160542)
    TFA seems a little disjointed and difficult to follow. Reads more like rambling than any sort of informative article or persuasive opinion piece.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    The reason why Linux can't play DVDs (legally) is because Linux users want source code so they can modify, fix bugs, etc. There wasn't and still isn't a big enough base of people willing to pay for playing DVDs especially when Windows and Mac users get to play them for free!

    Using trusted computing (stay with me for a moment) you could write a very very tiny little program (probably kernel module) that would be distributed as a signed binary, but also available as source (recompiling it wouldn't help, but y
  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @03:59PM (#14160581)
    Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

    I just wish they'd hurry up and die from their mistakes so something better can come along.

  • in the DMCA.

    Either I own my copy of a work, or I don't. If I own it (and not just a license of it), then I have the right to do anything I want to with it, other than selling or giving a copy to someone else (because only the copyright owner has the right to distribute copies).

    But if I don't legally have the right to decrypt the information on the disk (because of the DMCA), then it doesn't matter what my ownership rights are, the "keeper of the decryption" owns my ability to do what I want with my copy, a

  • by Cr0w T. Trollbot ( 848674 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:02PM (#14160610)
    our brilliant government passed the Eighteenth Amendment commonly referred to as Prohibition.

    It is misleading to say "our brilliant government" passed Prohabition. It would be more accurate to say "our brilliant GOVERNMENTS" passed Prohibition, as it required a 2/3rds majority of votes in both the House and Senate, as well as being ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states. Grave mistake though it was, Prohabition was still an issue whose passage was sufficiently popular to overcome the step hurdles against amending the constitution.

    The DMCA, by contrast, has shown no such popular support, and did not go through nearly as rigerous a process or well-debated to be enacted into law. That's a rather fundamental difference, and one that renders his anaology to inexact to be meaningful, if not his overriding point.

    Crow T. Trollbot

    • Grave mistake though it was, Prohabition was still an issue whose passage was sufficiently popular to overcome the step hurdles against amending the constitution.

      Put down the moonshine and re-study your history. The Prohibition movement was far from a majority; they were an extremely vocal minority, sufficiently large and well organized to be able to swing elections, and motivated by a religious belief that the ends justified the means, pushed a large variety of bad science about the degree of harm of alc

  • by nanojath ( 265940 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:03PM (#14160621) Homepage Journal
    The problem with this argument is, the government doesn't do shit because it "makes sense" or because their punitive solutions "aren't working" any more. If they did things like the prohibition of marijuana would have been history 60 years ago. Instead its still goin' strong after 7 decades. DVD on Linux? Why do you want to kill our children?
  • What is the danager here ?; that dvd media etc cannot be played on non-open systems. If so what ?. There is an assumption here that playing movies (or mp3s) is important. It undoubtedly is to some. Let them pay. Meanwhile those committed to openness as a philosophy will continue to invest their time and efforts in intrinsically open media, e.g, wikipedia. The luxury of the times we live in is that there is a choice. Will there ever be 'open' movies ?; almost certainly not. So !?. The oss community will be
  • by igotmybfg ( 525391 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:10PM (#14160693) Homepage
    yeah man, it's the corporations... they're like, taking over and stuff. if we could just like, get together, and show the corporations that we don't need their profit-mongering and extortion and capitalism, then that would show them!
  • The story lead sounds amazingly like this one:

    The RIAA - Hollywood - DRM - Linux Suicide Pact [lxer.com]
    "The entertainment industry has put itself on the fast-track to destruction, using well-proven tactics as explained in Preventing DVD Playback on Linux Like Prohibition in the 1920's. Are their heavy-handed tactics to lock up and control everything we touch signs of plain old human stubborness? Stupidity? Insanity? A bit of each? How else do you explain their inexplicable actions?"

    Or it's just a coincidence.

  • I'm sure I'm not the first to comment on this, but what, if anything does the music association have to do with DVDs and DVD playback on Linux?!? Oh yeah, that's right, nothing! It's the MPFuckingAA that are the movie people. Jesus Christ, if you're going to post a tirade about the content industries controlling too much, at least get your fucking industry associations right.
  • Meh, big deal.... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ShyGuy91284 ( 701108 )
    It'll just keep linux as a hobby OS or server OS (where it should be, but that's due to people not using it due to bad drivers, which is due to it not being a desktop and worth the time for development, and the cycle repeats), and maintain Microsoft's monopoly over x86 architectures (assuming OS X piracy on commodity hardware doesn't go crazy). Same old same old. and there will always be ways around it (and I doubt the RIAA is going to start suing people for installing software to just play DVDs in linux
  • by Jugalator ( 259273 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:19PM (#14160813) Journal
    I personally think Sony/BMG's recent fiasco could've hurt things more, because as opposed to Linux, Windows is a much more common OS among music listeners. Sony managed to bring the concept of rootkits to the masses perhaps even better than SCO managed to scare off Linux users.

    As for this article, it's interesting, but quite a bit "scattered" on different thoughts, covering a whole lot of ground on a mere two pages of text. But sure, MS is clearly facing new needs of adapting themselves to the industry they may not have faced since they started sketching on their business model. It remains to be seen if they'll be able to adapt to the new market, but at least according to their recently leaked internal memos, they realize the need of relying less on their traditional style of software development, marketing and pushing. It remains to be seen if they can put this insight into successful actions though. Part of the plans seemed to involve basing more revenues on online ads and becoming a Google, but unfortunately for them, well, there's this not too unsuccessful Google already there.

    So I think there'll be some interesting times ahead, even moreso if the Linux community will one day manage to provide a distribution taking a leap in functionality, user friendliness and style, like for example OS X did in the days.
  • Don't bother to RTFA (Score:3, Informative)

    by spyrral ( 162842 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:25PM (#14160866) Journal
    It's a poorly written, poorly reasoned screed, similar in content and quality to a high school writting assignment about how the "evil RIAA/MPAA/Microsoft are doomed. I can't understand for the life of me why it was posted to the front page.
  • Wow. (Score:3, Funny)

    by DdJ ( 10790 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @04:37PM (#14160995) Homepage Journal
    I have to work hard to be that incoherent. Even if I'm already drunk.
  • by redelm ( 54142 ) on Thursday December 01, 2005 @05:46PM (#14161722) Homepage
    I'm sorry, but I find the RIAA's actions utterly insupportable and I cannot in good conscience support them (or their members) in any manner. I just don't buy CDs. I do support the artists, and will go to concerts.

    Sometimes my kids want a CD. I won't control their choices, but they have to listen to a lecture from me about the evil they would support: RIAA harassing customers, exploiting artists, milking their back catalog and not spending nearly enough money finding/deveoping talent.

    The MPAA hasn't [yet][ gotten so bad, so I still spend north of $1000/yr on DVDs.

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