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Miss Digital World 2005 308

dnix writes "With the slogan: "Don't hate me because I'm digital" this year we have a nice new Top Digital Model, called Mi, from Shinichi Yoshimoto. She is a nice cybernetic geisha who was chosen from 15 finalists from Italy, Germany, Spain, Pakistan, Iran, Usa, Chile, India, Australia, Brasil and Mexico."
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Miss Digital World 2005

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  • Only way (Score:4, Funny)

    by squoozer ( 730327 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:32AM (#14255370)

    This is about the only way most /.ians will ever get a girl. Now we just need half way decent VR and a "touch suit" (I should TM that name) and were well away.

    • Re:Only way (Score:5, Funny)

      by glass_window ( 207262 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:39AM (#14255412)
      It's a shame we just slashdotted her.
      • "Kaya is ravishing. She has full lips, long lashes, and a slightly upturned nose" o_0 she looks like that russian lady out of dodgeball.. ? The others aren't great either. Gimme good ol fashioned flesh and bone anyday.. :p
    • Re:Only way (Score:5, Funny)

      by TheBigDuck ( 938776 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @10:34AM (#14255757) Homepage
      I got a girl. I'm so stupid, I even married her. I wish I could trade her for a high end computer. They are less noisy, use less of my money, and don't mind if I surf for porn. Don't get a girl. They are not as much fun as a computer.
    • Re:Only way (Score:5, Insightful)

      by metternich ( 888601 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @11:22AM (#14256112)
      I question whether this stereotype is true. Most nerdy slashdot-reading guys I know, (myself included,) are either married or have girlfriends.
      • Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC) but the stereo type is easy to make fun of and we all know someone like it.

        As for the stereo type being false I think it is, for the most part, but in some places it is 100% true. When I worked in industry most of the developers were fairly normal average people with a mixture of married and attached people with a couple of odd balls that you get every where. I then made the mistake of moving back into academia and it was like stepping into another world

      • Re:Only way (Score:3, Funny)

        by raoul666 ( 870362 )
        Yes, but saying that hurts the ones who don't, so we keep it quiet. Also, if the rest of the world realized we're smarter, better paid, AND get girls, well...they'd rise up against their nerdy overlords.
  • Sheesh (Score:3, Funny)

    by bugbeak ( 711163 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:33AM (#14255375)
    The one time I actually want to SEE what the deal is, and it's already long gone...

    (the article does NOT count)
  • This might be interesting news, though I remember reading this article the first time, in December 2004. Is anyone ambitious enough to search and see if this is indeed a dupe too?
  • by technoextreme ( 885694 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:34AM (#14255380)
    All you do is hit delete.
  • by cerberusss ( 660701 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:34AM (#14255381) Journal
    In fact, she exists only from the neck up

    That's a shame, because I usually start examining females from the neck down.

  • Mamegal should win (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Look at well the pubic bulge was modeled... I bet the modeler had to actually construct the vulva, and then put clothes on it, to generate this effect.
  • I think.... (Score:4, Funny)

    by botzy ( 734175 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:36AM (#14255394) Homepage
    I personally feel that Mamegal has an eating disorder and we should not be helping her illness.
  • by GreekPimpSlap ( 925925 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:37AM (#14255400)
    in this case the slashdot effect is like a psycho boyfriend... "IF I CANT VIEW HER, NO ONE WILL !"
  • by archeopterix ( 594938 ) * on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:38AM (#14255405) Journal
    Any CNC that works in latex?
    • Any CNC that works in latex?
      Im sure the pron industry will be able to help you out.
    • by cr0sh ( 43134 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @02:55PM (#14257933) Homepage
      I know you were posting "in jest", but if you really wanted to "homebrew" a latex version of one of these models (or almost any 3D model), everything does exist to do so in the comfort of one's garage or apartment (Note: If you are going to do this in an apartment, be prepared to have no space to do anything else except shower and sleep. Of course, since you are building a latex female doll, you probably have no life otherwise, so no BFD, right?).

      One would first need a homebrew CNC milling machine, with an X/Y bed of sized around 1 meter per side, and a Z travel for the milling head of around a foot. The milling head can be a simple dremel tool with either a tool extension or a way to tilt the tool or rotate the material to be worked on. It is assummed the doll will be built in sections (the why will be apparent). Enough information on building such a machine is easily available on the internet, parts can be sourced from surplus, structural material can be either "free", surplus, or new, and controlling software is freely available, and in some limited cases, easy to develop (I am sure someone has made simple CNC milling software using QBASIC controlling the parallel port, which is hooked to the servos).

      Once you have the CNC milling machine built (not an easy task alone, but sure to be rewarding!), you then need to choose the material to mill. The easiest and cheapest would be plaster of paris. Build half-thickness molds of plaster of paris, then reverse-impression mill them with the model. Alignment accuracy is important, as these molds will form the parts you are building, and the edges of the molds (after milling) must line up accurately. After milling, you will likely notice tool marks left behind, you will need to carefully (using dental picks, files, sandpaper, etc) smooth all of this out.

      Once you have all of these molds created, you can now start casting with latex (or, if you have the money, silicone rubber). Plenty of information on the internet about how to do this - just realize that latex in the large amounts needed won't be cheap. Also, realize that at this point, if you do things correctly, you can insert metal/plastic armatures (up to and including robotics!) into the molds prior to filling them with latex. These things would themselves have to be carefully engineered, but that is what your CNC machine is for, right? Come to think of it - you could eMachineShop the molds and the armature parts (at significant cost)...

      At this point, it is just pouring, assembly (got to learn how to apply hair, latex paint, where to get fake eyeballs, etc - but all of this too is available on the internet), etc. After all, you got time, right? You are somebody with not much of a life building his (or her) own RealDoll, right? Actually - you want to know what might make you some money? Troll the internet looking for all the information, from the ground up, to custom build such a doll. From building the CNC machine to how to make the casts, to pouring latex, etc - include sources, sample 3D model files, etc. Dump it all on a few CD-Rs or a DVD-R - then sell it in the adult section of Ebay.

      Remember - this will be the best prom evar...

  • 1) Issue competition of best looking virtual girls
    2) Post full finalists roundup including pictures on server
    3) Post meta article on slashdot with link to said server
    4) Retreat to safe distance as server gets warm and shows cracks
  • iMoss (Score:4, Funny)

    by ettlz ( 639203 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:39AM (#14255413) Journal
    Someone should give these models a virtual toilet where they can kneel down over the virtual lid and virtually snort virtual cocaine.
    • No, they need a mirror. They go down if they don't have one. Actually, screw it. Don't give them a mirror.
      • They go down if they don't have one.

        If you don't mind risking electrocution. Take it from me and my burn-scarred wang, cyber babes and oral sex just don't mix.

        -Eric

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Here's a cached version of the page. Link [cob-web.org]
  • The future (Score:5, Insightful)

    by squoozer ( 730327 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:42AM (#14255442)

    I can see it now. The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person. Perhaps we will have developed technology to the point where we can make babies in a tank though.

    Funny thing is though, I know several guys that are probably never going to get a partner let alone have children simply because they have set their sights way to high. They want a perfect woman or nothing. In two cases it is perfect looks that they require and in another it's the perfect little obedient house wife (that last guy makes me cringe everytime we talk). I can't help feeling that there are a lot of guys out there that have lost touch with reality due to constantly having "beautiful" women displayed to them.

    • Re:The future (Score:5, Interesting)

      by antifoidulus ( 807088 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:54AM (#14255505) Homepage Journal
      This is going very off-topic, but could the low birth rate also be becuase it takes so long to even get "settled" nowadays? Seriously, you have to have at least a bachelors degree(sometimes more depending on your field) to even get your feet planted financially(esp. if you are like me and paid your own way through school) Plus you have to go through a few years of work just barely treading water while paying insane amounts of money in rent(which unlike a sane mortgage, is not an investment but blowing money everywhere) in order to save enough money to even consider having a kid(unless you don't mind poverty and crappy schools).

      Seriously, it's not just the guys, I know a lot of women who are putting off childbirth as long as possible, if not deciding against it altogether. I know devout Catholics who are putting off having children(which for them means putting off getting married and having sex at all) till they are 30 because they just can't afford it. I was kind of shocked the other day when I came to the realization that my mother(who is a college graduate) was as old as I am right now when she had her first child, whereas I am in no way ready for that kind of responsibility/committment.

      Progress!
      • I don't see there being that low of a birth rate, there are PLENTY of stupid people who just go ahead and drink lots of beer until they look good to each other and then resign themselves to subsistence living and whatever escape drugs/alcohol can offer.
      • Re:The future (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward
        It has nothing to do with how long it takes to get your feet planted. It has to do with our value system and priorities. Not saying they are better or worse, but the fact is more people are doing just what you say - waiting until they are stable and can "afford" a family. Well, the fact of the matter is you can never "afford" a family. If you wait until that day, you will wait a very long time until one day you realize that if you don't just go for it, you will have missed your chance as time will have pass
      • Priorities (Score:5, Insightful)

        by 0311 ( 796591 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @10:44AM (#14255837) Journal
        When I finished school in 2000 (while working full time) we already had two children. And a house. No, I didn't make mega-bucks (still don't and we have 4 children and a much nicer home) but we were very careful with our money and still are. I don't have gadgets (unless you count the XBox, which doubles as our DVD player), my computer is older than my first born (and cobbled together with parts I bought from a wholesaler) and I drive an old car with a lot of miles on it. I bring my lunch from home and we don't eat out much, maybe once every 8 weeks. We rent movies instead of going to the movie theatre. I don't have a lot of spending money, about $15 every two weeks. And yet, I wouldn't trade any amount of money or so-called social freedom for my family. Oh, and by the way, no one I have ever met or heard of was ready for children before they came. They kind of grow on you and you cannot get that kind of practice any other way. Some responsibilities cannot be prepared for until after the weight of them has already settled onto your shoulders and having children is one of those responsibilities.

        Poverty is not a poor financial statement. It is a state of mind. I remember an old Appalachian woman being asked what she would do if she got some money. This was in the last few years that she was interviewed. She lived in a one room shack without indoor plumbing, out in the sticks. She said, "Well, I suppose I would give it to the poor." If you must have loads of spending money and lots of cool stuff in order for you to think of yourself as not poverty stricken, well, you don't really want children, do you? It's about your priorities.

        Well, I do carry on, don't I? Point is, if you want to take on the responsibilities of children, don't wait until you are ready, because you never will be until you have them in your life.
      • The affordability issue never seems to stop the poor around the world from having large families. It's only the professional middle-class that concerns themselves with it, but I believe that's just an excuse. The real truth is that career-driven people have just that as their priority, their careers, and having a family would impeed on that... of course it sounds much better to say "I can't afford a family right now" than "First I'm getting a sports car!".
      • Re:The future (Score:3, Informative)

        by foniksonik ( 573572 )
        Tell your Catholic friends (well the girls at least) that if they are in a position to get married, the ClearBlue Easy fertility monitor is a really great way to monitor their cycle and avoid pregnancy. If they use it 'religiously' in the same way secular girls have to use birth control pills, etc. then they have just as good birth control as any other method. By using the fertility monitor they can have sex 20 days a month... which is pretty good. The hardest part is to schedule the wedding and honeymoon f
        • That or there's the symptothermal method [ccli.org] where the female checks their body temperature upon waking which is also highly accurate. However, using non-artifical methods shouldn't be seen as a carte blanche. A good Catholic should consider whether they're actually delaying kids for a good reason (can't support them yet, conditions currently make childbirth an iffy proposition) or if it's for more selfish reasons (want to buy that new sportscar first, can't stand the possibility of losing free time to tending
    • The human race slowly becoming extinct because everyone would rather hump a perfect digital partner in VR than interact with a real person.

      Well, human beings suck, so maybe it's just evolution in action.

      They want a perfect woman or nothing.

      Yeah, well that door swings both ways. Read some personal ads by women some day. Thay want the perfect guy who just stepped out of a cheesy romantic comedy who dotes on their every whim and is always around except when he goes to his job- managing (for about 45 min

  • I hope (Score:4, Funny)

    by Council ( 514577 ) <rmunroe@gm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:43AM (#14255447) Homepage
    Looks like the site is slashdotted pretty badly.

    . . . I hope the gals are okay!
  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:44AM (#14255453) Journal
    Than a chick with a high poly count.
  • by donscarletti ( 569232 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:44AM (#14255454)
    The appropriate phrase would be: "I'd hit it"
  • ....with a thread starter message like "geisha" - that sight had to be bound for a /. notch
  • by 8127972 ( 73495 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:47AM (#14255466)
    .... Do they come with some sort of EULA?
  • by spungo ( 729241 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:48AM (#14255472)
    I tried getting kinky with a digital girl once - but she core-dumped on me.
  • by Quirk ( 36086 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:50AM (#14255478) Homepage Journal
    I got to check them all out before it was /.ed.

    I like chicks alot. Been married, lived with a few others, like long term relationships. The thing is I don't get the uber smooth, cyber skinned, tricked out, fantasy girls, or, the equally poreless, celluloid supermodels. The first time I seriously came undone in the face of transcendent physical beauty was the first time I saw my first real girlfriend fresh out of the shower sans makeup.

    I guess I'm just a regular guy that likes real regular chicks with attractive little flaws.

    I'll take the time I've here and now cause obviously I'm not suited to the tailored, gene spliced and diced perfect world to come.

    • I agree; I went to see Final Fantasy when it first came out (not for the story, which I thought was dumb, but to see the CGI). I left thinking the models were "too perfect" in the sense that faces were too symmetric.

      The hard part to getting true photorealism is modeling real-world imperfections in an "attractive" way.
    • If you look at the girls in the article... that are the 2004 contestants... you'll see the winner (Kaya) won exactly because she was draw with human imperfections (her skin don't look so smooth neither poreless)
  • by chunews ( 924590 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @09:52AM (#14255491)
    {splurt} oh, crap.
  • terrible (Score:4, Funny)

    by cbreeze34 ( 713379 ) <sean@the-corb e t t s.org> on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @10:00AM (#14255535) Homepage
    girls look so fake nowadays!
  • Are there any better pictures than the ones in the article?
    This one is looking spooky [wired.com], like she just got a facelift, or saw a ghost.
    She's got that Real Doll [realdoll.com] look.

    This one [wired.com] has a cheap looking hair-weave. She's also looking a bit angry.
  • Alienation City (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JumpingBull ( 551722 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @10:28AM (#14255707)

    I don't quite how to say this, but in a world of retouched, airbrushed, p0rn enhanced body mods, this seems a natural progression.

    I think I shall change careers to be an undertaker. drug-lord or psychologist; I see an increase in suicide and despair as people try to conform to an unrealistic/unobtainable model of perfection.

    All three should continue to be major growth industies, and are lucrative investments for the future

    • I think I shall change careers to be an undertaker. drug-lord or psychologist

      Become a psychologist, and refer all your patients (or next of kin) to your undertaking side business. Oh, and sell them drugs.

  • Cocaine (Score:2, Funny)

    by unixguy48 ( 539273 )
    And you never have to worry about her snorting coke to stay slim!
  • Mmmm... corpses. (Score:3, Informative)

    by cluening ( 6626 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @11:08AM (#14256013) Homepage
    Each of these digital "people" suffers from the same problem most movies full of digital actors suffer from: they look like animated dead people. We humans are pretty good at accepting cartoon characters as "real" when they don't look like humans, but once they start looking too real we start looking for those details indescribable that show they are alive. When they don't move/look 100% natural, they tend to just register in our minds as dead bodies moved by puppet strings...
  • As an Artist (Score:3, Informative)

    by miyako ( 632510 ) <miyako AT gmail DOT com> on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @11:11AM (#14256031) Homepage Journal
    I do a fair bit of CGI profesionally, and I have to say a lot of these images and the work people have done in general on rendering humans is really amazing. There is also a lot more to creating a convincing looking human than to creating a photorealistic city, car, office building, etc.
    I've seen better images than what were in the wired article (the other site was slashdotted unfortunately), but they were still highly impressive.
    A lot of the problem is that skin is one of the most difficult materials to accurately render. Aside from minor imperfections and blemishes that lend realism to an image, it's difficult to manage proper material attributes that look "real". Such as multiple layers, subsurface refraction, bump mapping, reflectivity, etc.
    If I weren't afraid of slashdotting my own server I would post some of my own renders, but I am, so I won't.
    Anyone got a cached link of the main site? I'd like to have a look at some of the other entries.
  • by kalirion ( 728907 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @11:24AM (#14256135)
    From TFA:

    Kaya is ravishing. She has full lips, long lashes, and a slightly upturned nose. Her expression radiates confidence and power, and her smooth skin is well scrubbed and dotted with freckles. But she doesn't have much of a body. At all.
    ...
    Kaya
    HEIGHT: 5'5"
    WEIGHT: 121 pounds


    So what we have here folks is a 5'5" tall, 121 lb head.
  • by tsa ( 15680 ) on Wednesday December 14, 2005 @11:49AM (#14256366) Homepage
    From the website:

    HEIGHT: 5'5"
    WEIGHT: 121 pounds
    POLYGON COUNT: 48,200


    Never ask a lady her polygon count!
  • None of the four in the Wired article appear to using translucent skin techiques discussed at SIGGRAPH the past three years. Human skin has lots of oil, and different amounts in different places. Locks more realistic when you do this right. But is an expensive computation.

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