MSIE To Adopt Firefox Feed Icon 289
An anonymous reader writes " Forbes article is reporting that Microsoft 'forthcoming Internet Explorer 7 browser will adopt Firefox's RSS feed icon, the company announced on a blog--effectively making the orange square with white radio waves the industry standard.' "
Dupe it up. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Dupe it up. (Score:5, Funny)
Well damn.
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Re:Dupe it up. (Score:5, Funny)
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>_>
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Re:As always - slow in news (Score:2)
Re:As always - slow in news (Score:2)
Radio Waves?! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Radio Waves?! (Score:2)
*puts on my tinfoil hat*
The MS Version (Score:3, Funny)
They'll find some way to make it evil, or claim ownership. It's in their genes.
Crazy, Crazy Dupe... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Crazy, Crazy Dupe... (Score:4, Funny)
Either that or Taco won't post anything for a week while trying to figure out if it's a dupe or not.
Re:Crazy, Crazy Dupe... (Score:2)
Slashdot: arrogant heads up the collective ass!
-b
Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)
What are these post criteria, anyway? (Score:2)
This site model does work reasonably well, assuming you have some conscious editors behind it. When did our esteemed /. gatekeepers become the equivalent of Jack Elrod and Johnny Hart from the comics page, coasting on their few laurels and not paying much attention?
Re:Oh shut it. (Score:2)
Maybe because it's now a constant, daily thing. Maybe you've not noticed the days where the dupe is actually on the same page, two links down.
It has nothing to do with anybody thinking they're better than Taco. It may have something to do with Taco not doing something basic, though.
Good News (Score:5, Insightful)
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(cat tongue > cheek)
Re:Good News (Score:2)
WTF!? your cat's tongue is in your cheek!? That's sick, man!
[/facetious] Don't worry, I do understand bash.
Embrace & Extend (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Embrace & Extend (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Embrace & Extend (Score:3, Funny)
Now that's a definition of Embrace & Extend that I could have done without
Re:Good News (Score:3, Interesting)
(No, this isn't a dig at Microsoft or a dig at the GPL, it's just something that needs to be considered)
Re:Good News (Score:3, Informative)
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Representatives of giant Microsoft's Redmond, Wash.-based IE7 team even took a trip down to tiny Mozilla's Mountain View, Calif. offices to work out a deal.
Presumably, they got permission.
Or another way to read it... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Good News (Score:2)
Re:Good News (Score:2)
You're not supposed to give Microsoft any compliments here
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Super Dupe (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Super Dupe (Score:3, Insightful)
You're like the fourth person to bitch about this dupe. How come the dupe gestapo doesn't take extra care to make sure somebody else hasn't posted a gripe about the dupe?
Fascinating new development! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Fascinating new development! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Fascinating new development! (Score:3, Funny)
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From the dupe: "The Microsoft Team RSS blog is reporting that IE7 is adopting the RSS icon used in Firefox.
Adopting it? Has the icon become a foundling? Bill Gates opens up his office door and finds a basket with an orange icon it and a note pinned to it saying "Please adopy my icon and give it a good home, we are no longer able to care for it."?
Re:Fascinating new development! (Score:3, Funny)
It's not a dupe... (Score:2)
CmdrTaco, do you want to admit something???
Heh (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Heh (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Heh (Score:2)
Extending *standards* is one thing, extending arbitrarilly is bad because when the software than most people use extends the functionality, people start using the new functionality and excluding software that doesn't support it which means everyone else has to play catch-up to add the new defacto features to their software. For RSS this might not be such a big deal since the format is basically pure i
Re:Heh (Score:4, Informative)
Linky [harvard.edu].
Re:Heh (Score:5, Informative)
It's worth noting that Apple has also extended RSS using exactly the method listed in that link. They added several new iTunes-specific elements for use with podcasts that are used through iTunes.
Because they followed that extension mechanism, the RSS feeds that take advantage of those extra fields are also standard RSS feeds, so any other reader can read them with no problem.
From what I can tell, the Microsoft extensions are essentially the same. The RSS feed remains a standard RSS feed, it just has extra extended information contained within it - although I could be wrong.
Re:Heh (Score:3, Insightful)
The RSS specifications are specific subsets of XML, and RSS readers have to know how to interpret that XML. When Microsoft starts to change the RSS spec, and if others decide to use Microsoft's features, then there's a good chance that users of non-Microsoft RSS client software will be effectively locked out of these feeds. It really doesn't matter whether it's XML or not (or more generally, human-readable or not), because by trying to shove new features into the RSS specification outside of the official ch
Re:Heh (Score:2)
On the four day of Christmas... (Score:5, Funny)
4 trolls a trollin' 3 goatse links 2 mods asleep, and a dupe from only 4 days ago... [slashdot.org]
Ok, time for the mods to drink from the kiddy egg nog. Lay off the stiff stuff.
Re:On the four day of Christmas... (Score:2)
Re:On the four day of Christmas... (Score:2)
Re:On the four day of Christmas... (Score:3, Funny)
Grr... (Score:5, Funny)
wow (Score:5, Funny)
Re:wow (Score:2)
Standardisation is nice but... (Score:5, Interesting)
The "cone of spherically propagating waves" design is so overused (and mostly associated with wireless networking) and has nothing to do with RSS feeds to me.
Maybe MS got tired of copying Apple and decided to Think Different for once
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd prefer it if they went with Safari's blue rectangle with "RSS" written in white on it.
I prefer non-written icons, simply because there are no issues when translating into other (non-English) languages.
Granted, most people will probably end up calling it "RSS" anyway, even if they don't understand what "Really Simple Syndication" means.
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:2, Funny)
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And I agree with the parent poster. Conical waves seem to be used for wireless and audio, as they are acutally waves.
Come to think of it... (Score:5, Interesting)
Wait, what are we talking about again? WHY does there need to be a standard RSS feed icon anyway? =p
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:4, Informative)
Copy and paste https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2613
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:2)
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:4, Interesting)
Copied from my comment in the previous story [slashdot.org]:
Because Apple, instead of using a generic, fairly understandable term like "news feed", chose to jump on the buzzword bandwagon and rebrand Safari as "Safari RSS". Consequently, they have a user-unfriendly acronym instead of a proper icon, which they display even when the news feed isn't RSS at all. That's not suitable for a user-friendly, generic news feed interface, especially when the IETF standard Atom format is displacing the legacy RSS format.
It might have been okay to use "RSS" in a user interface when early adopters were the only people using it, and when RSS was the only format around, but now news feed support is entering the mainstream, and Atom is around too. Using "RSS" buttons isn't appropriate any more.
Re:Standardisation is nice but... (Score:2)
800 Lb Gorilla (Score:2)
Isn't that true of just about everything Microsoft does?
Re:800 Lb Gorilla (Score:5, Insightful)
Who says this is suddenly an industry standard? Firefox and IE will use it ad they have a corner on the market, but has any standards organization [w3.org] said "this shall be the RSS icon?" It's a pretty big leap from Microsoft adopting something to it becoming a standard, despite their dominance of the browser market. And in case anyone has forgotten, MS tends to make hash out of standards it does adopt.
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Adopted or Assimilated? (Score:2)
This article is like deja vu all over again.
The big question (Score:2, Funny)
In related news (Score:4, Funny)
Excellent (Score:5, Funny)
I think I've worked it out (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, back in the day, they ran this site as a standard tech blog, not really making any money off it. Just a side hobby. However, when it got purchased, and the popularity really flew off, the Slashdot team discovered they didn't actually need to work anymore.
Now personally, if I'd discovered that what was a fun hobby now fed and clothed me, and there was practically no work involved, would I spend as long as possible on it, carefully checking each thing?
Of course not, that would invalidate the whole point. Instead, I'd look through the titles and occasionally the summaries of submitted stories, and let through whichever ones sounded vaguely interesting. Then I'd spend all my free time and money pissing around, and relaxing.
I don't hold it against them, Slashdot still works, we still get good comments, and damn, I'd do exactly the same thing.
Kudos to you, Taco and the rest of the gang! Live the dream! I know I would...
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In other news (Score:2, Funny)
Slashdot RSS Feed (Score:5, Insightful)
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I don't want Microsoft to join the club anymore. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I don't want Microsoft to join the club anymore (Score:2)
No, it's C++/CLI, an ECMA-standardized extension to C++ for CLI (aka
Of course, you can still write normal C++ with VC++ (and if you don't want to use
Freedom to inovate? (Score:2)
No offense, but how big is a Icon of 3 letters? (Score:3, Interesting)
There isa blue icon with white letters RSS on it in the URL component (at the right edge).
I can't get why everything needs to be an icon?
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Geezuz! (Score:2)
So the story ran twice. Big fat deal. We all slip from time to time. Big Media papers print retractions all the time; (the ones they catch, at any rate).
Slashdot is SOOOOO much better than almost any Big Media news outlet you might point to; their agenda and editorial biases aren't designed to suck up to their ad clients or to advance the forces of evil through the spread of government and corporate propaganda. Yeah, they make mistakes from time to time, and they avoid touching direct
Misspelling (Score:2, Funny)
I think they misspelled assimilate
Fair is Fair (Score:2)
Can't we all just get a long ...... ?
I hereby publicly pledge to subscribe... (Score:2)
If it happens, Taco, post a story about it, because it'll be bigger news than most of the shit you post.
I'm pretty sure my money's safe.
how interesting!!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Not only is it a really bad dupe... (Score:2)
Re:Dupes allow off topic posts, right? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Dupes allow off topic posts, right? (Score:3)
I'm probably going to get the Belkin CF card with a PC Card adapter. I generally hate Belkin but we have a reseller account somewhere so I can get a deal on it
All my newer laptops have BT built in, but I tend to customize and sell them too quickly. The older lease-outs I've picked up work fine, even if they're outdated. What I'd really like (but can't justify) would be a BT/WiFi/GPRS/EDGE PC Card for complete wireless connectivity. Maybe through in C
Re:I liked this story better... (Score:2)
I liked this story better...
...when it was new 4 days ago.
Actually I thought the story was just as boring and non-newsworthy then.
Re:ARRGH (Score:2)
Re:ARRGH (Score:3, Insightful)
The Firefox team realise that a unified symbol is of benefit to everyone, and happily allowed MS to use the logo.
Re:You're Making Us Look Like Chumps!!!! (Score:3, Informative)
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