Firefox Commercial Contest 112
Robbyboy writes "Mozilla announced an advertisment contest for the Firefox web browser, according to Information Week. They are asking Mozilla Fans to send them samples and the winners will receive prizes. The Contest is hosted at the Spread Firefox site" From the article: "Earlier this month, Mozilla launched the first phase of its Firefox Flicks campaign, which was a testimonial Web site in which fans could sing the browser's praise in short videos. To date, several dozen of the amateur clips, which vary widely in quality and have been submitted from more than 20 countries, have been posted on the site."
i hope... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:i hope... (Score:1, Offtopic)
And i hope someone manages to slip in some porno.
humour is key (Score:5, Insightful)
freedom is key too (Score:5, Insightful)
> preaching about open source software
I agree that preaching must be avoided, but not mentioning that it is free software [compsoc.com] is a false economy.
People who don't value their freedom will let it slip through their fingers. i.e. they will install a bunch of proprietary plug-ins, and over time, Firefox will become a platform for a set of non-free plug-ins for browsing the non-free WWW.
...but the preaching has to be removed. Freedom and community could be mentioned without an explanation, and at least the user would then have the option of investigating for themself.
In business terms, freedom is the software's "unique selling point".
Re:freedom is key too (Score:5, Insightful)
Cases in point: Gun control, DMCA, PATRIOT Act, Copyright extensions, broadcast flag (you know it's going to pass), DRM (Sony's rootkit wouldn't have gotten press if it didn't introduce security holes), All those bits of PATRIOT II that got slipped into other bills...the list would go on and on if I had bothered to divide DRM and gun control into passed and pending legislation.
All you have to do is tug on their heartstrings, or put the fear of death in them, and they'll support whatever agenda you propose.
It's political micro-minorities and activist groups that end up defending their own rights. The "silent majority" doesn't silently support or silently oppose; It just doesn't care.
Check back in 20 years, and see if I'm not right.
Re:freedom is key too (Score:3)
I can agree with you on all of those, except for gun control. Maybe you've heard of something I
Re:freedom is key too (Score:1)
the point is that our system of one single state for a group of poeple is hopelessly outdated. If you take a bunch of poeple that agree on a certain set of rules of living together, you can form a traditional country. But nowadays countries tend to rule all and everything. The problem is that if you make too much rules most of the poeple are most of the time annoyed. the same thing happens with too *many* poeple. And with t
Re:freedom is key too (Score:4, Insightful)
"This ad is paid for through voluntary donations by very satisfied users."
Or the like. Just throw out a claim like that that no one can ever possibly match.
Not only humor (Score:3, Interesting)
I agree, on the Firefox Flicks globe, the videos I prefer are not the ones that talk about Firefox's features or "coolness", but the ones that are different and original. But there's plenty of other elements that are very appealing to people. For instance, I particularly liked a couple of videos from France, were some dude's little kids talk about Firefox. I don't even know what they're saying, but babies are cute, and the videos are cool to watch. Other stuff that sells: sexiness and puppies.
Hope somebody
Re:humour is key (Score:5, Interesting)
the Geico Layout Engine. (Score:2)
Of course, saying "Layout", "Engine" and the name of an auto insurance company brings up some wierd images.
Re:humour is key (Score:4, Funny)
we all do dumb things... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:humour is key (Score:3, Funny)
Firefox: Less viruses, Less popups, Faster porn, Free!
Re:humour is key (Score:1)
Well, funny can be good, but I think the Mozilla Foundation should be careful with selecting clips that are involuntarily funny. Most of the people that have sent in clips seem to be good-natured people that just want to "spread the word", not to become the next Star Wars kid. Could easily backfire.
Of course, that doesn't preclude me from making fun of them. Take a look at this guy [spreadfirefox.com] for instance. Evidently, he enjoys "firefuck". Now, I don't know what a firefuck is, but it sure sounds intriguing! Possibly
Simple - you make it important to the consumer (Score:1)
Firefox strikes back... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Firefox strikes back... (Score:2)
Firefox Flicks doesn't exactly seem to be a huge success. I don't see it mentioned anywhere except on Slashdot a couple of times.
Firefox: The internet as it should be (Score:1)
(Pan in window showing various people in front of computers)
(Cue music "The Internet is for porn - Avenue q")
Re:Firefox: The internet as it should be (Score:2)
Re:Firefox: The internet as it should be (Score:2)
Not sure if this is what you were refering to, but here's the soundtrack: Linky [google.com]
Get high first (Score:1, Funny)
"Beep, beep, beep."
Re:Get high first (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Get high first (Score:3, Interesting)
Rawrr... Asiian hippy chicks... mmm...
"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:4, Interesting)
Father, mother, daughter, desktop computer.
Daughter: "Daddy, the computer stopped working"
TRACK to Daughter walking to computer with Father following.
CUT to computer screen. Screen full of blinking ads and popups. Hint of pornographic content, but not directly on screen.
Daughter: "Can you fix it?"
Father: "I'll try"
Father sits down at computer.
CUT to side view of Father at computer, illuminated by glow from screen.
FADE to side view of Father at computer, looking at screen, intermittent typing.
Daughter (offscreen): "Is it fixed yet".
Father: No, not yet.
FADE to side view of Father at computer, head in hands.
Daughter (offscreen) "I need the computer to do my homework".
Father (annoyed): "I'm working on it".
Mother: (offscreen): "Honey, is this going to take long"? ...
Re:"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:2)
Re:"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:2)
No, no--it's coming through a door and she has to use the computer to lock it.
"This is a [Linux] system! I know this!"
Re:"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:2)
That would be the worst advert in the world.
Why? Advertising what your product isn't seems to be a pretty popular technique. Progressive has an ad showing a guy getting an on line insurance quote, and the computer says he'll get a call back in 12 hours... 48 hours... 72 hours... eventually. T-Mobile has their ads for "Poser Mobile" showing people getting nickel-and-dimed by their cell phone company. Apple had an ad showing someone trying and failing to use software on a Windows PC. High speed Internet c
You forgot the punchline (Score:2)
Daughter: With my neighbor, his computer always works.
(Pan to neighbor's computer, he's using firefox)
PunchLine: "Firefox. The web as it was meant to be."
Re:"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:2)
Come on now, it's not like his daughter is pregnant. Yes, spyware sucks, but most people don't see it in the light we do. They've become accustomed to ignoring the pop-ups and going on with their lives. Firefox would be much better served to stay away form melodramatic, pseudo-crisis scenarios and stick to the positive.
Re:"Daddy, the computer stopped working" (Score:2)
Do I have to spell everything out?
Re:If Firefox wants to go mainstream... (Score:1)
My Vision (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My Vision (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My Vision (Score:1)
Not Japanese, paniced bald guys... (Score:1)
Oh wait, people would think it's a rerun...
*Fire* Fox (Score:1)
Re:*Fire* Fox (Score:1)
I think he meant bonfire [reference.com].
Re:*Fire* Fox (Score:1)
Commercial Time (Score:1)
Prizes (Score:4, Informative)
They have some pretty sweet prizes [spreadfirefox.com], too:
Re:Prizes (Score:1)
I prefer Lucky strikes but I'm sure they would come in useful.
Re:Prizes (Score:2)
I should mention that I work at an ad agency. And while I am not saying they shouldn't do this...since I think its great and love viral work...I am saying that companies should certainly be compensating people QUITE a bit more for their hard work...especially if they win. What they are offering is bordering on insulting in terms of industry pricing.
I think I know why. (Score:2)
No (Score:2, Funny)
All you need to promote anything is... (Score:1)
Re:All you need to promote anything is... (Score:1)
when did this become about domination? (Score:4, Interesting)
Um...why?
Good products don't need advertisements. Bad products- or products indistinguishable from their competitors- need advertisements. When you have a lot of technically clued-in people encouraging friends, family and coworkers to use Firefox...and a market share that is going up...why do they need more?
I just don't get it. Open source isn't about taking over the world, but yet a lot of people seem to think that way. Guys (and gals)...that's exactly what got us in trouble with Microsoft.
Choice and diversity is GOOD, shockingly. What you should be doing is pointing coworkers to lots of different browsers and encouraging open standards support (ie, don't support browsers that have fussy behavior web designers must account for and/or don't support open standards.)
Choice and diversity encourage innovation, and assure users needs are met best. Here's a little parallel- I worked for an advertising agency that was owned by a holding company. The holding company is one of 3-4 of its kind, and together they own a massive percentage of the advertising firms out there. Yet the holding company frequently encourages multiple companies it owns to present proposals to the same client. Why? Better chance at getting one of -their- companies in the door is one reason, but another is that with 4 companies from "The XYZ Group"...well, the client has more selection, there might be a better fit between client and firm, and the client is liable to be happier with whoever they DO pick.
By the way- corporate needs aside, of course...do NOT ram Firefox, or anything else, down a user's throat. They'll quite likely resent it, look for excuses for it to fail or not meet their needs, etc. Where you can, be GENTLE and try to have it be their decision- not yours.
Re:when did this become about domination? (Score:1)
Good products NEED advertisements! That's how people becomes aware of th
That's okay - many people don't get it (Score:1)
There are no "products"- noone needs to sell anything to anyone. The issue is freedom, as in GNU/RMS."Open source" isn't "about" anything. If you want to download and use whatever software you want, well okay.
What is important is that people are free to do this. Which cannot happen when the defacto standard is a proprietary and secret platform (secret binary plugins, IE only sites etc). Going "
Re:when did this become about domination? (Score:4, Insightful)
Having ads in mainstream media makes a product more known and makes the product (in some cases at least) more credible to your average consumer. This might make a new population of people that realise that they have a choice and may become interested. For those I am willing to tell that in my experience it's actually a very functional browser.
Re:when did this become about domination? (Score:1)
Good products don't need advertisements. Bad products- or products indistinguishable from their competitors- need advertisements.
To the average user, Firefox is indistinguishable from its competitors. Hence the ads and all the hype to make it stand out.
Re:when did this become about domination? (Score:1)
Re:when did this become about domination? (Score:2)
*COUGH* Commodore Amiga *COUGH COUGH* bankruptcy *COUGH*.
Pardon me, you were saying?
They Need To Concentrate On Fixing The Bugs (Score:4, Insightful)
While 1.5 doesn't slow down as quickly as the 1.07 when downloading images off the Net, it DOES slow down eventually and eat up all of Windows' virtual memory. Eventually it starts issuing "picture cannot be displayed due to errors" messages. In other words, severe memory leaks. These were supposed to be fixed in 1,5, but clearly have not been, although some may have been ameliorated somewhat.
It also seems to be slightly less stable than 1.07, with a slightly higher incidence of crashes (still thankfully relatively rare.)
If they start trying to add features to this code base, they'll get a rep for having a crappy browser on a par with IE 5. They need to fix these problems and fix them fast.
Bugs are irrelevant. No, really. (Score:2)
So whether the product has bugs or not does not depend on the marketing.
Re:Bugs are irrelevant. No, really. (Score:2)
Okay, I've GOT IT! (Score:5, Funny)
Anyway, if someone takes this idea, does it, and wins... well, at least think of me when you get your delicious prizes...
A sample (Score:3, Informative)
Re:A sample (Score:2)
This is a great idea (Score:1)
The flicks are bad. (Score:1)
About the advertising, I have never seen any type of ad for FireFox before, aside from the non-animated, pretty much out of the way, banners.
I hope they don't go too far with the advertising. If it starts becoming obtrusive then they're going to have a lot more angry customers on their hands.
One problem... (Score:5, Funny)
Fixing security holes should be the first priority (Score:2)
Re:Fixing security holes should be the first prior (Score:2)
Re:Fixing security holes should be the first prior (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Fixing security holes should be the first prior (Score:2)
Re:Fixing security holes should be the first prior (Score:2)
Which Software (Score:1)
If it was a print medium,photoshop could be a starting point for creating.But video left me stumped - theres a whole gamut outthere,that are quite complicated to use too......
So which software is fast, easy to learn,with decent results?
still...no...link ?? (Score:2)
Think Different (Score:1)
Great firefox advertising idea (Score:5, Funny)
Re:To show the utility of FireFox (Score:2, Funny)
Re:To show the utility of FireFox (Score:2)
IE supports more standards.
Please enlighten us as to which standards you're referring to. By standards, I mean standards that have actually passed through some sort of standards board, whether it be the W3C, ISO, ECMA, IETF, or some other standards body that I missed.
For example, Firefox 1.5 supports SVG [w3.org], MathML [w3.org], and fully supports PNG (IE doesn't do transparency), and has better support for CSS tha
Re:Firefox users suck (Score:1)
Browsers are still cool (Score:5, Insightful)
To answer the question, look back just a couple of years. IE had around 95% marketshare, despite not having done anything terribly interesting to improve the browser since it killed Netscape. Microsoft wasn't working towards supporting new, useful standards like CSS, XML, SVG, RSS, etc., because the incentives just weren't there. MSHTML was the standard, because there was no market for anything else. Security was awful, but the people who made the software just didn't care. Seriously, how much pride can you take in "doing things the right way," when you know for certain that the people developing for your browser will whine, complain, then find whatever dirty hack it takes to get things looking right on your browser?
Times have changed, and it's thanks in large part to the creation of Firefox and the Evangelical Geek Hordes swarming behind it. IE has lost a good chunk of marketshare, lazy webmasters are starting to understand that their website needs to work on multiple browsers. There is renewed interest in web standards.
Even IE is starting to improve its security and standards-compliance, while adding new features.
Before Firefox arrived, Internet Explorer was well on its way to becoming the MSWeb. Microsoft could decide which standards they thought were relevant to the user experience they wanted us to have, and to what extent they would be implemented. But since this power didn't translate well to revenue streams, they gave us the half-baked, annoying web browsing experience that they couldn't get us to pay for.
So long as alternative browsers have double-digit usage, the web will continue to be a more standards-friendly place. Standards don't sound terribly exciting at first, but they allow for all sorts of exciting niftiness that simply wouldn't be possible under a MS monoculture.
Re:Firefox users suck (Score:1)