RFID Cookware 133
HaggiZ writes "Vitacraft are claiming to have what they call RFIQin Robotic Cookware (unfortunate name). It's basically pots and pans that you can place RFID cooking cards in the handle with. The communicate with the induction stove 16 times a second to adjust the cooking when required. Neat idea, although I'm not sure anything I cook needs to have it's temperature reviewed or adjusted every 0.06 of a second." For all the evil uses of RFID that have been floated over the years, it's nice to see that someone is going to finally make it so I stop burning my lunch.
This being Slashdot (Score:4, Funny)
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LSD!!! (Score:2)
WOOT FOR TECH!!!
It's Linge'RFIQin good! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:It's Linge'RFIQin good! (Score:3, Funny)
Grammar Police to the rescue (Score:4, Informative)
I prefer "Grammar Nazi." (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Grammar Police to the rescue (Score:1, Funny)
It seems as though you are attempting to write correctly, let me help. Posessive [sic] is spelled possessive.
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More money for useless toys (Score:1, Funny)
ummm... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, no, it'll just help regulate the temperature more accurately. It's still up to you to remember to stop playing doom 3 and go rescue your omlette from becoming a black crunchy lump.
But then again... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:ummm... (Score:2, Interesting)
No, it'll tell when it's done and turn off the heat, right?
Re:ummm... (Score:2, Interesting)
I need an RFID-active oven or a pan on which a pizza can fit. And a pizza chip which knows how to tell the stovetop or the oven how to cook
Re:ummm... (Score:2, Funny)
The Pot(TM) and The Stove(TM) are in constant communication to control tempatures and times. Since
Re:ummm... (Score:2, Funny)
Microwave... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Microwave... (Score:1)
Re:Microwave... (Score:1)
Re:Microwave... (Score:2)
All joking aside, this is one appliance that might benefit from that kind of control - however, I find the variation that I get (sometimes light, sometimes dark) far more interesting than if I'd get the same, exact, cookie-cutter result every single time. Perfection is boring.
Re:Microwave... (Score:1)
I get pretty much exactly the same result every time... charcoal. Hence, I think I might benefit from this. As would most likley restaurants, large familys, and all others who know that the taste is less in the condition of the food and more in the spices added and the ingredients used.
charcoal goes pretty well with hot peppers.
Wrong target market. (Score:4, Insightful)
The people who cook with pots and pans already know how to cook so they won't spend money on this. Gas stoves are much better for cooking anyway.
Which leaves the only market being people with too much money, a love for new toys and no culinary skills.
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:1)
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Ba-dum-CHING! (Score:2)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
(/me waits for "but that's just anecdotal-evidence-spiel)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:4, Interesting)
I have to admit though, this seems like gadetry overkill for even me, and I'm a hardcore geek.
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
Somehow, I find this pretty sad. People don't want to learn anything. Cooking is a great skill to learn, and it's fun to learn. 95% of it is following the directions. I suppose having a chip in there makes it easier to surf the net while cooking? (not that surfing in the kitchen is a good idea...)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:1)
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To be a real cook, now, that is really something. I had a girlfriend who was a cook, and it was incredible how she could make things taste better. Simple things, like hamburgers. She'd add some spices to the meat and......yum!
Apparently you don't know much about induction (Score:2, Insightful)
That said, I don't see a lot of use for a pre-programmed cooking routine. It will only work when you can guarantee the consistency of your ingredients (making caramel or deep frying come to mind, but there are already
Re:Apparently you don't know much about induction (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
And in the UK we already have microwave ovens that can read the cooking instructions [checkoutmagazine.co.uk] and automagically cook your food as intended by the producer.
Smart cooking (Score:2)
I despair sometimes.
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
Will you have to have diffrent recipe cards for each weight and temperature of the food being prepared (frozen, room temp, etc)?
The pan may be at the correct temperature but that is kinda useless as most cookware conducts heat so well that it is effectively the same temperature as the element anyway, so is this basicaly saying you still have to be there to cook the meal it
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
Re:Wrong target market. (Score:2)
That's why I want induction cooking - I can't stir fry food in a wok nearly as well as I'd like with my wimpy consumer stove. As for RFID to control temperature - that might be really useful interested in holding food at a certain temperature to cook, like in vac
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"needs" (Score:1)
Taco (Score:5, Funny)
Scary thought for someone named after a food...
Re:Taco (Score:2)
Hint, Pronounced "Command her"
Re:Taco (Score:2)
Nice (Score:2, Funny)
This is part of the RealPlate act (Score:3, Funny)
Close, but not close enough (Score:4, Funny)
Then, I need it to integrate with my wine cellar, so it can see whether I've got an appopriately matching wine for each of the recipes.
And it'd obviously have an internet connection, so it could check prices on each of the ingredients. I could put in my work address and my girlfriend's work address, and it could balance out the list and prices so it could SMS me (or her, depending on the shop) right before I leave work.
Ha! This is Slashdot! Who am I kidding? I don't have a girlfriend, a wine cellar OR a job! Much less RFID cookware, bwahaha. Now pass me that pizza delivery menu.
Re:Close, but not close enough (Score:2)
Imagine a method of having the fridge, cubboard and stove use RFID to keep an up to date list of what you can make based on what you have. Plus with a "if you had" list.
It just pulls from a database with ingredients, cooking time and estimated remaining volume and displays it. You wouldn't need to update it more than daily or hourly at most.
Half the time I end up staring at my full fridge, wondering what I want to eat and end
Re:Close, but not close enough (Score:2)
Re:Close, but not close enough (Score:2)
My post was a *joke*, Sherlock. Besides, I live on Miami Beach, two blocks from the ocean's edge. I went through three hurricanes last fall including Katrina, Rita and Wilma, and had no power for a while. I lived. Deal with it.
Re:Close, but not close enough (Score:1)
Dem Übergeek himself has got both a wine cellar, a wife (aka. girlfriend v. 2.0) and a job... why shouldn't you have it too ?
Here's what's really going on: (Score:1, Informative)
They're talking about inductive heating, which is a bit worrisome: It involves having a kilowatt or so of 13.56 MHz radio frequency energy beamin up at the cooking implement.
The pot can't be just any pot-- it has to hit a certain electromagnetic sweet spot, as to absorb the radio waves, and not reflect them all over the place.
this usually implies it has to be made of somewhat resistive and lossy material-- iron is a good c
Re:Here's what's really going on: (Score:5, Interesting)
One of the best restaurants in the world, The French Laundry, uses induction stoves instead of gas stoves.
iron, better than almost anything else (Score:2)
Which is what is used in the best french restaurants in France.
The main problems with copper is the "maintenance" : it's hard to clean, and has to be polished quite often. But it has the best conduction for cooking, with a nice even diffusion.
Also you cannot as yet use them on induction stoves (as far as I know...I'm not that much a cookware geek)
Induction is top for a few application : boiling water under 30 seconds, changing temperature of your pan really fast...
Induction IS top h
Re:iron, better than almost anything else (Score:2)
Re:Here's what's really going on: (Score:2)
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Re:Here's what's really going on: (Score:1)
Induction cooking requires the use of a ferrous cookware. Iron and steel can get hot enough to really sear something. The addition of iron scraped off into the diet is actually a nutritional plus. Stainless steel has always had problems with scorching, even the copper aluminum sandwich kind.
Copper, glass, aluminum etc are useless for induction schemes. We use copper, steel and aluminum so this technology is out for us. Good pans should be able to cook every meal you eat in your lifetime and then some.
I th
Here is a good example of how this works (Score:2)
Re:Here is a good example of how this works (Score:2)
The difference between this and a microwave oven is the microwaves are confined (99.98% of them) to inside the oven cavity.
In a stove, the RF energy isnt confined by anything tangible. The confinement depends on magnetic fields dropping off as the third power of the distance.
I just thought it was funny how companies can spin this as a super new feature, when others might see it as a kludge to overcome some inherent probs.
Re:Here's what's really going on: (Score:2)
The pot can't be just any pot-- it has to hit a certain electromagnetic sweet spot, as to absorb the radio waves, and not reflect them all over the place.
This usually implies it has to be made of somewhat resistive and lossy material-- iron is a good choice.
No, Although 13.56 MHz is an RF ISM band and used for various purposes (such as
Re:Here's what's really going on: (Score:2)
RFID??? (Score:4, Interesting)
Its a clever idea that I can see being used for testing out cooking techniques. However, using the term RFID is just to hype the produce as it really is not getting that much out of the RFID technology.
Re:RFID??? (Score:1)
Looks like they just used RFID to monitor the type of pan. I guess that could be useful with the differences in conductivity, density, etc of each. My 3-year-old's play kitchen does this sort of thing, already, though. When you place the plastic eggs on it, it crackles, the spaghetti, it bubbles.
Sounds like some XML-enabled, service-oriented, 4-gl buzzwords being thrown around to me. *g*
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Good for Gourmet Cooks (Score:5, Interesting)
Even temperatures would benefit gourmet cooks more than inattentive college students trying not to burn their mac and cheese. Precise cooking temperatures without large swings command premium dollars.
Just check out this [aga-ranges.com] for the extremes people will go to for this kind of control.
Re:Good for Gourmet Cooks (Score:2)
Of course...the chefs serious enough to care about those things, such as myself, are typically at a culinary skill level where they do just fine without expensive gadgets. Although the industrial kitchens of restaura
Can power vapourizers? (Score:2)
Possible advertising slogan? (Score:1)
Chocolate (and other candies) (Score:2, Informative)
Cocao butter in chocolate melts around 90F. Ideal melting temperature is between 40-45C (104-113F). Above that (45C, 115F), the chocolate scorches.
For tempering (the shiny coatings), you melt it at around 110F, cool it to 79-80F, and then warm it back to 90F. Automating it is very handy.
Candies (and related sauces) are very temperature sensitive. Sugar melts at 146C (367F). Just right and you get caramel. Just wrong and you get carbon.
Re:Chocolate (and other candies) (Score:1)
English (Score:3, Funny)
ENGLISH, CmdrTaco, ENGLISH! ! !
I only use one button on my microwave oven, MinutePlus. My mom always wonders how I get it to turn on by pressing one button without typing in the amount of time...
RFID is not evil (Score:2)
All I want, and a lot of folks I have tlaked to, is laws in place to prevent abuse. Unfortuunatly they are easy to abuse.
Unintended Markets? (Score:2)
what happens if.... (Score:1)
It'll burn your house down?
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"Officer, you must be drunk."
i don't need the man telling me how to cook! (Score:2)
food you cook in a pot or pan does not seem like it would benefit from this. there are so many variables in cooking (like how often you stir it!) that come into play, plus a little variety is what makes cooking have
Useful: Protection From Teflon (Score:2, Interesting)
RFID cards that tell the stove to turn off after a certain amount of time would help prevent mistakes with Teflon pans.
Better would be pans with sensors that monitor the temperature of the pans used. Not only would it be safer, but it would be easier to control temperatures of food being cooked.
Re:Useful: Protection From Teflon (Score:2)
I wonder how this.. (Score:2, Funny)
Interesting idea, can it alter temperatures per pot on the stove? so my meat sauce cooks on high then simmers while something else does a controlled slow cook? Nice vendor lock in - you now have to buy pots, pans, skillets AND the stove they belong to.
ESPECIALLY unfortunate name in German... (Score:1, Offtopic)
RFID Wont Help Your Lunch (Score:1, Redundant)
Figure it out already (Score:2, Informative)
Hey HaggiZ, "RFIQ" != "RFID". Seriously, there are a lot of people out there calling anything small that passively or with minimal self-powering communicates via RF radiation (i.e. radio waves) "RFID". RFID is a specific thing. It's basically a small, cheap device that echoes back a unique ID number for tracking purpo
Mod parent down (Score:1)
I know, this is Slashdot, but didn't anyone look at the linked page? You know, the one that starts with "Each Vita Craft pan handle is embedded with an RFID computer chip..."
Better idea: build one for a microwave oven (Score:3, Insightful)
There would certainly be no problem powering the thing; there's plenty of RF power in there. Interference could be overcome by programming the oven to shut off for a few milliseconds every second, during which period the probe would send a temp reading.
Re:Better idea: build one for a microwave oven (Score:1)
Re:Better idea: build one for a microwave oven (Score:2)
When I stir-fry, temperature is not very critical (Score:1)
Not for me (Score:1)
I actually think it could be feasible to harness all that wasted heat from electronic equipment to cook food
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Re:Not for me (Score:1)
Nah... it makes it taste funny...
This does look like a waste of money (Score:1)
With this compu-cookware, what happens when you want to finish a dish in the oven?
I would like to see how long this stuff last at 450 degrees.
All this technology will never replace stirring, thermometer, and following directions.
Good stainless steel pans will last longer than you do and will be always reliable.
People will buy the stupidist stuff to "help" them cook, when t
Re:This does look like a waste of money (Score:2)
I'd agree that its not all that useful at home, but large restaurants, cafeterias, military mess halls... could really benefit from the added consistency such devices can give.
yeah, right (Score:2)
Tinfoil hats on!!!! (Score:2)
Or your (neighbours/parents/mother-in-law) can come in and ask if they can join you for your famous meatloaf without even asking them!
Re:Tinfoil hats on!!!! (Score:1)
Getting started with RFID (Score:2)
Can anybody offer suggestions?
From a geek who cooks (Score:2, Interesting)
Another part of
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