NYT on Terry Semel of Yahoo! 33
prostoalex writes "With the recent CEO smackdown and Steve Jobs profiled by BusinessWeek, The New York Times talks about yet another high-tech CEO - Terry Semel of Yahoo! An outsider to the industry, Terry Semel currently leads the global company with the broadest reach. NYT looks into Yahoo!'s most valuable assets - technology produced by its employees, and covers many Yahoo! products, some of which, like Yahoo! Search, launched 2 years ago, trail only Google in the amount of users."
I just finished reading Rules for Revolutionaries (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I just finished reading Rules for Revolutionari (Score:1)
In depth article (Score:3, Interesting)
Yahoo! focusing on media and advertising appears to be paying off for it, and it's purchase of Inktomi was handled well. It's market cap doesn't look as illogical as that of the goliath standing next to it, either. I'm glad to see that one ex-media mogul "gets it."
Re:In depth article (Score:1)
2 years ago? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:2 years ago? (Score:3, Informative)
Their point is that their in-house search engine is on par (you can have your own opinion here) with Google's even though they started it just two years ago. Granted, they bought Inktomi, which had been working on its own for quite awhile.
Ink + ATW (Score:3, Interesting)
Barely touched a computer? (Score:4, Funny)
This was because someone mistakenly told him that he could get a virus from his PC.
Comparison, Of Course! (Score:1)
Search market - mention of Google
NYT Article - Ability to Read without Bugmenot
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"Don't let the fools fool you. They are the clever ones."
Yahoo!'s most valuable assets it's technology? (Score:5, Interesting)
That's what sets Yahoo! apart from Google, for instance. Google is a technology company. Yahoo! is a media company. Big difference. Yahoo could, if it wanted, live off licensing all the technology it needs from third parties. Google can't. For Yahoo! engineering is a luxury - Yahoo! maintains it because it makes things easier, cheaper and helps the company keep control of its destiny. For Google it is a necessity - it's audience is tied almost exclusively to its technology assets.
The most visible result of this comes in approach to new services: Yahoo! favours incremental improvement driven by business needs (competition, customer expectations) of proven services, and is prepared to wait for another company to test the waters before going full steam ahead, while Google throws out new services and features to see if they'll stick, and takes the cost of failures (Orkut etc.) much like Yahoo! used to five years ago.
Gmail is a good example. Google went full speed ahead and threw a bombshell (not with the features - normal users tends to find Gmail feature limited and confusing - the disk space is what mattered) into the mail market. Yahoo! (and the rest) followed up with smaller increases. End result? Yahoo! still makes money selling what Google gives away for free (2GB+ storage space), and Gmail ended up making only tiny inroads into the mail market, barely denting the large providers like Yahoo!, Hotmail and AOL.
More importantly, Google was left with their silly "permanently increasing" quotas, while the rest of the market for the most part kept their userbase (except, to a large extent, the people who cost them the most by keeping as much as they could stored in their accounts...) and their revenue streams.
Google failed to realise that "unlimited" storage is a technology driven feature, not a user demand. It means little to most people outside the geek crowd.
This is also behind the often denigrated cluttered Yahoo! home page (though people here also forget that Yahoo! search has it's own homepage [yahoo.com] just as most other Yahoo services) - the Yahoo! home page is delivering a huge amount of traffic to a vast amount of Yahoo! content pages and services. Search is just one of many resources users go to that page for. People come there because it provides the mix of content they want, just like a newspaper or magazine people grow familiar with.
As a result it is also driving a huge amount of revenue.
The important point of this is that if Yahoo! falls behind technology wise in a particular area, it won't matter too much - Yahoo! has many legs to stand on. If Google falls behind in search technology, it is more or less dead.
It's different strategies - "slow" audience growth and embracing anything that will grow your reach and audience numbers (Yahoo) vs. driving traffic via technological superiority in a few basic areas (Google).
Only time will tell what gives the best long term viability.
(Disclaimer: I'm an ex-Yahoo employee)
this is mostly wrong (Score:1, Interesting)
Exclamation Point! (Score:5, Insightful)
I always read headlines and stories and forget that they have it attached in their copyrights. I was all giddy to read a story about a CEO, not because I am a business major or a fan of Yahoo! in general, but because that little mark (!) envokes so much emotion!
You can't just go around throwing exlamation points at every crappy sentance, but Yahoo! makes every crappy story about them stand out!
Re:A Gulfstream IV to Sunnyvale? (Score:2)
It's theirs.
They can do whatever they want with it.
It might not actually be a waste of a jet if they carry enough passengers with it. The Gulfstream can hold about double the passengers of the Citation and from what I understand it's significantly more comfortable.
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Re:He needs to clean the Chinese dirt off his knee (Score:2)
-Eric
Reminiscing About the Yahoo! Of Yore (Score:4, Funny)
There was Simtel and WUarchive, the golden age of shareware, Apogee, id Software, Commander Keen and Duke Nukem, communication, dissemination and, of course, p0rn.
In the midst of this rose Mosaic and the Web was born. Web sites were created and they were good(ish).
But the net was a dark and lonely place with no one to guide the nubes and so pages of links sprung like manna from the hands of geeks.
The links were consolidated and organized into groups and the portal was born...Yahoo!!!
Web 2.0 (Score:1, Informative)
.mac (Score:2, Insightful)
Apples
Yahoo! advertise but don't charge (mostly) and they pull in $5.2 billion in revenue.
Paid subscribers will always be a much smaller proportion of the market than free service users.
Personal to Zonk (Score:2, Interesting)
Hey man: you win.
I've no problem with being modded down when I'm being sarcastic, but I respectfully disagree with the systematic, blanket modding of my posts as 'Overrated' when I'm posting a reasoned opionion that adds value to a thread. This has happened often enough in the last week to trigger this post.
I'll simply uncheck your postings over in the preferences, so that future tension can be avoided.
Best,
Chris
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