A Microsoft-Speak Timeline - From Altair to Zune 114
netbuzz writes "No company has had more to say about software over the past 30 years than Microsoft (for better or worse). How they've said it — the actual language used — reveals a lot about the company's evolution and is the focus of a new timeline. There's a look back at a 'tag cloud' provided by the Seattle P-I. In addition to analyzing the linguistics of about 90 documents, there are also links to such gems as Bill Gates' Playboy interview and his famous 'Open Letters to Hobbyists.' From the article: 'We're talking all the way from Altair to Zune, with stops along the way for every technology the company developed, bought or borrowed, right on through to current entanglements with Vista, Linux and Google. The tool allows for an at-a-glance view of company priorities as they evolve and shift.'"
The most surprising thing to me (Score:3, Interesting)
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Downloading CPM on a 300 baud acoustic modem?
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Bill was understudying with Jim Henson for Kermit in case the whole software thing didn't pan out.
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Ah, digging up the manual it lists Don Burtis of Burtronix as the designer and Vista Computer Co as the manufacturer. Guess this where Vista's name comes from
Also I'm sure they were also working on various forms o
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From the same page, Apple also got a similar deal on 6502 Basic for the Apple II. MS sure didn't make that mistake again with IBM.
Keep on getting away with it... (Score:3, Interesting)
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D) pretend the non-mainstream message is a lie.
(somewhat related to B : if you say something loud enough it becomes the truth...)
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It seems to me that they live under the presumption that
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John Kerry admits he changed his mind, and he's skewered in the media.
George Bush lies about saying Saddam had WMDs, was tied to Al Qaida, and whether he ever said "stay the course", and no one cares.
It's not that the past shouldn't matter, it definitely should. It's just that it shouldn't be used as a meaningless gimmick. As it stands, our media plays it completely backwards.
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Having held in the past opinions that differ from those you currently hold should be no shame, lying about what you have said/believed in the past shows a lack of intelectual honesty and integrity that is worrying in someone whose role is to interpret events and decide policy on the basis of their interpretation.
Declaration: The above opinions may be effected by my belief that the current US president is a
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=fp3FzSoMUYo [youtube.com]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ckMWO_w4iNY [youtube.com]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I [youtube.com]
It's amazing what can be covered up as time passes. Interesting when you hear declassified information which reveals how much lying the government actually has do
Like the saying goes... (Score:2)
Re:Keep on getting away with it... (Score:5, Insightful)
MS didn't "innovate" the idea of getting everyone to use only MS apps for everything. If any company held such a powerful monopoly, they could do something similar. MS enjoys a greater degree of compatibility and interoperability in their software because they control the whole game - the OS, the browser, the word processor, the spreadsheet, etc. are all totally under the control of MS. If a small company has a truly innovative idea, they have to fit it within the existing inflexible MS specs and APIs, or they're out of luck. Meanwhile, if MS has even the slightest idea for a new feature, they can just re-mold the entire OS and application architecture to implement it.
What if you could get better gas mileage in a Ford, but you could only use Ford gas and drive on Ford roads? Would that be considered "innovative"? Requiring people to commit themselves to a restricted proprietary environment in order to get the benefits of interoperability is a sign of lazy development at best and anti-competitive profiteering at worst - but if that's what they call "innovation" these days, who am I to argue?
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Sorry, copied again (Score:1)
This entire concept existed in its best form to date as SOM/DSOM on OS/2, which actually supported distributed COM objects long before MS ever got COM or DCOM to sort of work correctly.
IOW, OLE/COM is merely yet another stolen/copied subpar tech, brought to you by those
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Microsoft's advantage was (
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Obviously, MS has an abysmal security record, but I'm not sure I see the connection here, sorry.
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After all, it's innovations like this that have led to an endless stream of clients sending me screenshots as Word documents.
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When working solo it has very little benefit I'll admit, but in larger organisations that kind o
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Because they've had no training, and the company doesn't require demonstrating competancy/skills in the standard MS Office suite. You wouldn't believe how many tips/tricks I've taught to people about using Outlook, Excel, etc. after I've futzed around in the settings. an
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Using Word for typesetting?
Now there's an idea on a par with trying to shave with a chainsaw. Theoretically possible, but extremely taxing on the nerves and likely to have very ugly and unpleasant results.
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On a solid system, you cut cut&paste or drag&drop anything from anywhere to anywhere and it would at least make us much out of it as possible. The Mac has most of that working, I can mark text in Firefox, drag it to the desktop and a new text file w
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ClarisWorks (Score:1)
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Give me a break. The Republicans tried to impeach Clinton for lying about that sexual relations, but no one has gone after Dubya for lying about the presence of WMD's and invading a country on false information.
I know this is off topic, and the mods will have at me for this, but I have Karma to burn...
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Jon Stewart... pull... Clinton's... wagging sexual... things
Truth, Republican style.
TDS is a very MIXED bag (Score:2, Insightful)
I watch the Daily Show fairly regularly (tivo). Though he is often funny and sometimes really pings people for lies and disingenious spin, I also think his sort of humor can be harmful to intelligent polit
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In fact, there's the famously funny exchange on crossfire where Stewart has to remind his hosts their show is on CNN whereas his show is followed by puppets making crank calls.
C'mon buddy--- get real... If anyone's looking to "Comedy Central" for news on what's going on in the world, they've got bigger problems than a left-wing bias- that's for damn s
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Well Thanks :-)
I don't care what it purports itself to be. I care what its impact on political discourse is. If Bill O'Reilly renamed his show to the "a lighthearted entertainment show with a moral-conservative reactionis
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Too bad there are millions of people who actually do get their news from TDS. This is no different from the millions of people who get their news from talk radio, despite talk radio billing itself as commentary and not news.
People get their news from who best validates their world views. That the "reality based community" gets their news from Comedy Central is very revealing of their world view. That they think Stewart and Colbert are funny is every bit as fri
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That's right... in the U.S. Outside the U.S., folks in some areas see The Daily Show on this other network, called "CNN International." Maybe you've heard of it?
(Yes, there is a little disclaimer message on black at the beginning of the show...)
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Since they're owned by the same parent coporation (read: Turner) then I'm not surprised that CNN would want to snag CC's Stewart to include something intelligent...
http://edition.cnn.com/CNNI/Programs/daily.show/ [cnn.com]
To clarify for everyone else: Internationally it's still called, "The Daily Show"- just with "Global Edition" added- and it appears on our export version of CNN (aka CNNI)
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I also think his sort of humor can be harmful to intelligent political discourse.
Sure, if your only view of the world is a comedic look at politics. But then too much of ANY viewpoint is harmful to intelligent political discourse. As someone else pointed out, TDS is on a network called "Comedy Central", so expecting them to be some pure news source is really missing the point. As far as young people only getting political news from TDS.. well I guess the alternative is for them to get no news at all and
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The comedy comes from pointing out the absurdities in the news coverage - particularly in what they select as important enough to
Obvious joke. (Score:2)
Gee, I am surprised that every cloud did not contain the word “developers” in huge, bright-white type!
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A key to MS success is exposed here (Score:4, Insightful)
That isn't a troll (Score:1)
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I'd have to say it's a toss-up as there are few products that ev
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Linux has tons of powerful applications that do amazing things, but you have to read a manual of highly technical gibberish in order to use the most basic of features; when I'm using linux as a multimedia PC I don't want to have to press ctrl-p to play and shift-alt-r to record, I want something that is simple and straight forward to use. Win
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Unfortunately, the project seems like its stuck in stasis.
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Have you actually...used Linux in the past five years? There are quite a few distros and applications that cater to your desires. I click on a video file in Konqueror, and
The word "users" (Score:3, Insightful)
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Open (Score:3, Funny)
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animalbabies? (Score:3, Funny)
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Didn't MS tinker around with singing fluff-doll toys around that time? If I remember correctly, they pulled the plug.
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Interesting phrases appear (Score:3, Funny)
87: excel expertise fact fixing
87: foolish formulated graphical guiding
95: maintenance march messy
95: studying super tracking users
98: undermine unintentional unix users
Windows CeMeNT (Score:4, Funny)
Windows Ce
Windows Me
Windows NT
Due to the flexibility, nimble, responsive solutions we have, we call this
Ce-me-nt
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Well, if You would just add Win95, Linux, BSD, and Sun with Open Firmware on the front end of that infrastructure, you could have
95 Lbs Of Cement
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My favorite quote (Score:3, Interesting)
"Who were we imitating . . . When we did the Altair BASIC? . . . And who were we imitating when we did Microsoft Word? When we did Excel? It's just nonsense"
Bill, you must've been kidding. Those were exactly the same sort of imitiations that your company now accuses FOSS of and derides them for it.
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Oh, DEC BASIC, Wordstar and Lotus 123.
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1) DARTMOUTH BASIC (an open source program!)
2) the IBM DisplayWriter
3) VisiCalc & SuperCalc
how soon we forget...
Where's the word security? (Score:5, Insightful)
I find the absence of the word 'security' very interesting. I wasn't expect to see a word like 'quality' of course.
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in the recent speeches... (Score:2, Funny)
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W's current approach is vague mamby pamby chearleading kinds of statements, like "We must move forward with determination or risk slipping backward."
Blah? (Score:2, Informative)
FOSS (Score:3, Insightful)
If only M$ had that level of quality. (Score:2)
It's amazing how people can still fall for that line of reasoning. Witness this gem from Network world:
As your single quote from Gate's infamous whine shows so well, Gates' fundament
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As your single quote from Gate's infamous whine shows so well, Gates' fundamental operating principle was wrong and everything built off it is a lie.
I don't think his principle was wrong. I think it was true enough when he said it, but the Internet has changed the world. It is a rare hobbyist who can put in three years of full-time, uncompensated work on a project, but there are plenty of people who can and will put in 10-20 hours per week on a project. With the power of the Internet to enable their collaboration, a half-dozen part-time developers can easily exceed the output of a full-time developer.
Anyone who's used free software knows that the quality exceeds Mr. Gate's wished for 3 many years and the quality of most non free software projects.
I have to disagree here as well. I use F/LOSS
Typical Gates logic.... (Score:4, Insightful)
What was the first microcomputer software company? Microsoft.
WRONG Digital Research was found the year before, it was also the company Microsoft stole DOS from....
And who were we imitating when we did Microsoft Word? When we did Excel?
WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3......
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That's because it was.....copied that is.
MS Word started on the PC (bought of course.. never developed in house), then was ported to the Mac. Then they took the UI stuff they learned there and ported them back to the Windows version. Then making sure that the feature set for the 2 versions was at least 1-2 years behind for the Mac versions.
Where do you think the Cut(Cmd-X) Copy (Cmd-C) and Paste (Cmd-V) came fr
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During tha
I see a trend (Score:4, Insightful)
Is that lag? No, it's Microsoft (Score:2)
A lack of Progress? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Thanks, I'll get my coat.
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USERS has no respect. (Score:1)
So it looks like users will be forgotten soon after this month and until Vienna comes out.
What wasn't said (Score:2)
I think some people believe that if you deny a problem exists it will "just go away."