Yahoo to Offer Unlimited Email Storage 316
Josh Fink writes to tell us that Yahoo has announced that they will be offering unlimited email storage starting this coming May. The launch is all a part of Yahoo's ten year anniversary. While not all users will see their storage caps disappear right away Yahoo is promising that this feature will eventually reach their entire population.
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YahooFS may replace SlashdoFS (Score:5, Funny)
Up until now I have been using my own hand rolled SlashdotFS. It works by encoding data into comments. It uses a Markov chain sentence generator to encode data in english looking sentences then writes them as comments in slashdot. I use a redudancy system to prevent data loss if comments are deleted. The other problem is that because the system is write-only, it's means lots of bandwidth for files I change frequently. Even so it works. But the results has been that I feel kinda guilty about all the gibberish comments I insert into slashdot. The good news is that because of the english markov sentence generator, no one can actually tell that it's data so they just think it's some person they need to begin flaming immediately.
In the last version of the program I actually made the post somwhat on-topic by retraining the markov genewrator based on the word field distribution of the thread itself. Slightly slower, but then it looks like a conversation.
I'd feel a lot less guilty if I could use YahooFS instead.
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+1 for a What's up Tiger Lily reference!
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with all the dupes i'm sure redundancy is not that much of a concern.
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Re:New business plan (Score:4, Informative)
Personally, I would be happier if they would apply all their resources to better spam prevention. I had to retire my long-time Yahoo! account due to more spam than real messages. I dutifully reported all spam via the SPAM button, to no real effect. Yahoo's policies for putting ads in messages is also a tad disruptive.
Yahoo has already lost me as a customer, but maybe this "unlimited" storage deal with draw some new untainted blood to them.
Nice idea. (Score:5, Funny)
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Bravo Sir, stated like a true Nerd!
PSST: I'll have his!
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I've been counting since sometime in 2004, and I've still got plenty of unused fingers.
Don't be modest. Everyone likes the smell of their own brand.
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I'd rather unlimited $20 bills or $50 bills please.
How would this work? Would you just accept a phone call stating "I need more (insert monetary value of choice), please?". Do you ship for free or do you deduct the shipping amount from the amount you send? What if I just ask you to send me 100,000 $20 bills every day...would that work? Automatically assume I need more everyday and just ship.
Or maybe I'm just
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exactly! the previous rollouts came out overtime as they put into place the infrastructure to handle the new size, so i anticipate that they will also roll this one out as infinite space becomes available for more and more users
does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor that Google is going to save costs on storing gmail accounts by storing everyone's email in one huge Yahoo mail account?
Do I really need more Yahoo Space? (Score:5, Interesting)
Inbox - 7145 UNREAD messages (99% spam)
Bulk - 2547 UNREAD messages (about 99% spam)
Obviously, I don't use this account all that much. My point is that at least in my case, this extra storage will be just wasted.
I read this as a marketing move that really won't do a thing for me or many of the other users.
Re:Do I really need more Yahoo Space? (Score:5, Funny)
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Of course it's a marketing move. Gmail's 2GB was also a marketing move. Many people won't fill 20 MB of e-mail in a year, but they'll still switch to a provider that offers large/unlimited mailboxes just so that they don't have to worry about running out of space.
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1,000,000MB / 5MB = 200,000.
I can't see how you could be wrong by a factor of 8. Can you? Did the 8-bits-per-byte thing trip you up? I can't see where else an 8 might have got involved here.
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I wonder, when we're talking about unlimited and dynamic storage, can we ever talk about "extra storage being wasted". It kinda clashes with my logical units.
They don't pre-allocate infinite number of bytes for your account, which will go "wasted".
The only thing that changes is their marketing message, nothing really goes to waste, as the usage pattern of the majority of users won't change a zilch.
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Your Yahoo! Mail account is no longer active.
Why is my account inactive?
Yahoo! Mail deactivated your mail account because:
* You have not logged into your mail account during the past four months; or
* You have requested that Yahoo! Mail deactivate your account.
What does this mean?
* All email messages, folders, attachments and preferences have been deleted and cannot be recovered.
* All messages sent to ptomko
Too bad we've already got gmail (Score:4, Insightful)
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The new Beta is terrible, though. It's slow as hell, and it's so cluttered with useless "Web 2.0" cruft that the actual viewing area for the message is ridiculously tiny. If they decide to switch to that format permanently, and don't give an option to keep using the old interface, I am going to have to stop using Yahoo for my email. That would really suck, since I've been using that email addres
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Re:Too bad we've already got gmail (Score:4, Informative)
I use the new Y! Mail Beta too, and the reviews are right, it IS faster, and the "Web 2.0 cruft" that you disdain has markedly improved the usability of the interface (drag 'n drop messages into folders, yeah, who would want that?!).
Usability Up, But it is slooooooow (Score:2, Interesting)
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So, just like a desktop app, you sacrifice a bit in start-up time to get an app that is more responsive and allows more
So all I need is a little script, (Score:2)
I'd like a couple ... (Score:5, Funny)
Fantastic! (Score:3, Funny)
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http://www.lectos.net/hellokitty.php4 [lectos.net]
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I can't help it! I just can't get enough of that pussy...
Too Little Too Late (Score:5, Interesting)
By sacrificing usability Yahoo! wanted to make a quick buck. Bad choice and unfortunately Yahoo! did not learn from hotmail. I am still amazed at how many people still use hotmail.
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They pulled the same to crap to tv.yahoo.com.
Yahoo should remember, "Don't fix it if it ain't broke!"
Re:Too Little Too Late (Score:4, Insightful)
Google's approach to integration is more incremental. They build an application more or less as a stand alone entity. The result is that if email is the only thing you really care about, Gmail provides a far cleaner interface.
The pitfall with Yahoo's approach is that it is inherently more complex. It doesn't help that the first versions of their beta interface were horribly slow, but the worst decision was acting as if this were the late 90s and trying to be the user's portal to the Internet. Not that there is anything wrong with trying, but when the user wants his email, he doesn't want to wait for the top stories from sports and entertainment to load. Making the user wait for content he hasn't asked for to get content he has asked for was a bad, bad mistake.
Overall Yahoo offers a better package of services. Google provides better individual services when it has a comparable offering. If you just want email, Google is the choice for you. Yahoo should be a viable alternative, but they've chosen to magnify the downsides of their offering.
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A wh
"At some undefined point..." (Score:2)
Maybe 12 year anniversary (Score:5, Interesting)
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unlimited (Score:5, Insightful)
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And for all those complaining about the ads on Gmail, try the CustomizeGoogle plug-in for Firefox. It even gets rid of the counter on the Spam box.
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Exactly. Like when I got my AmEx card and they said no limit (and still advertise as such on their commercials), I found that the limit was somewhere under $2000 because they wouldn't approve my charging a laptop on my AmEx. I eventually was able to raise my unlimited limit by faxing them a copy of my bank statement showing available funds in the bank.
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2 grand for an unlimited card? was that a balance limit or a single transaction limit?
that seems totally absurd to me. I had a higher credit limit than that on my Master Card when I first got it.
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Someone somewhere has just started work on an app. to "backup" your data to yahoo mail. By backup I mean a bittorrent app that never writes the bits to your own drive.
I kid, the service is so slow they'd never get into the double digits before closing.
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there's always a price (Score:5, Interesting)
assholes.
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You'd need the second, as the first ("excellent" Yahoo Spam Filter) is an oxymoron.
ITYF (Score:2)
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assholes.
Very smart move, when gmail starts charging for POP3, will you move again? You always pay, one way or the other, if you honestly believe Google will forever let you use gmail without looking at their ads or paying them something, you're delusional.
It's simple: put your mailboxes on your own domain, and pay for hosting on that domain. You pay, but you have full control over the mailboxes, and you
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Not necessarily. Google doesn't need to make money from every user of their gmail service. They're smart people, so I'm sure they have already calculated some threshold for the percentage of people who use POP3 access to gmail, above which they will start to charge. As long as the number of people using POP3 is small (for some value of "small"), I don't think it necessar
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Um... Gmail does "make you look at their ads". They're over to the right. Subtle, text-only, context-focused ads. And with the context focus, I've actually followed a couple of them when they were relevant to the conversation.
Re:there's always a price (Score:4, Informative)
So maybe just get a domain, use Google to serve mail for that domain and then *if* Google decides to charge you for POP access *then* get mail hosting somwhere else. At least you will keep your domain and addresses.
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assholes.
Right, imagine the nerve...they decided to start charging a nominal fee for a specific remote method of access to their otherwise entirely free e-mail service.
Fine, decide it's not worth it, either dispense with the service or graciously move to a different service. But why be petty about it and call them names?
And, as you say, there's always a price. Same with gmail. You're the consumer; decide
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hmm (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder if this will fall under the "in our contract it doesn't legally say 'unlimited' " bit. I still get annoyed when I think back to the days of dialup when an ISP I used that advertised unlimited connection times sent me a nasty email because I stayed online for days at a time without disconnecting, saying that "unlimited doesn't mean unmetered"... as if that mattered to me... metering only is an issue when I pay for something according to the meter reading.
Anyway, I don't really see this as a huge boon. I don't even use 1% of either my gmail or my yahoo account. Are there really people who NEED 10gig+ mail storage?
yahoo e-mail addresses, the new DMZ? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Dennis Miller line: (Score:2, Funny)
Spammers (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll write the followup headline...
Yahoo to Offer Unlimited Email Storage, Spammers Rejoice
What, did they really think the users would be filling the extra space?
Woohoo.dumb (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, maybe they have -- they survived the first crash, and swallowed a whole bunch of smaller companies in the process. Companies that had smart, innovative ideas but not enough capital to sustain themselves through a bleak period. Could it be that this is what Yahoo! is hoping will happen again?
Fantastic! (Score:3, Insightful)
Storage doesn't matter anymore. Three features gmail has that kills yahoo!mail
1. Still force mandatory spam tags on outgoing mail.
2. Still have cap on attachment size (I want to send huge numanuma song video as attachment to the world).
3. Interface still sucks (even the beta).
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- one click to sort by sender, size, date, subject*
- I can open messages in tabs or new windows
Paid-for service removes on-screen and in-message ads. I'm sure some people see it as a shortcoming of Gmail that they *don't* give the option to pay money for no ads. $20/year? The service is good and I don't mind paying for extra features (more storage, more filters, no ads in outgoing messages, choice of return addresses
Pray tell me what use will unlimited storage be ? (Score:2)
I'll stick with Gmail thank you (Score:5, Funny)
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Maximum file size...? (Score:3, Informative)
Perhaps its because of a limited exposure to web email sites, but I seem to be one of the few people who likes Yahoo!'s interface... the only other web mail address I have is at http://www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijkl
Hmm... reading all the comments here has me interested in trying something new. Would someone please send me a gmail invite to loimprevisto at yahoo.com?
What they are acknowledging (Score:2)
"Unlimited" means they have enough disk space for all the e-mails all average Joes and Janes will be able to send in 4-5 years. For the guys thinking "bittorrent drive" and similar "innovations" - Comcast will make it unusable.
FUSE and Yahoo? (Score:3, Informative)
So, FUSE [sourceforge.net] (Filesystem in Userspace), which can be run on a number of platforms, allows you to mount your Gmail account like a drive. If you copy data to this disk, it uploads it to your Gmail account as a message/attachment. So now you have a ~3GB hosted virtual drive, albeit with pretty slow access speeds... Pretty wild stuff.
Unlimited messagees on Yahoo makes me hope someone is working on a libYmail component, allowing FUSE to do the same with Yahoo Mail. Got a 15 gigs of TV shows/movies/porn which you've been thinking about deleting anyway? Let Yahoo have them!
From this other article [techcrunch.com]:
If you get caught, Yahoo seems to allow you to pull the data back down. If they won't (I'm going to guess they're going to change that policy pretty quick), then oh well, you were going to delete that stuff anyway! :)
What does unlimited really mean? (Score:4, Insightful)
How much "stuff" do I have to start throwing in my inbox before they raise a red flag and either ban the account or throttle my upload speed? Unlimited is a tricky word. It can actually mean different things (kinda). For instance I can say I allow unlimited refills at a restaurant, but it really means unlimited for that day. When they close and reopen the next day you'll have to buy another cup to get your "unlimited" refills.
All that to say, I'm sure that somewhere there are probably clauses that will greatly restrict their definition of "unlimited." Does anyone know what/where they are?
Does it come with unlimited "skyscraper" ads? (Score:2)
Rediffmail beat them to the punch (Score:3, Interesting)
announcement of unlimited email storage didn't make Slashdot.
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Just cause he 'poked' at Yahoo, doesn't mean he supports gmail.
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Top Five Ways To Beat "Unlimited" Storage (Score:2)
4. " Unlimited Storage ( With Free Pie! )"
3. " Unlimited Storage Plus "
2. " Unlimited Storage Plus Plus "
And the number 1 way to beat "Unlimited" storage:
1. " DOUBLE Unlimited Storage!"
Self hosting (Score:2, Informative)