US's Slow Embrace of Information Technology 210
mattnyc99 writes "To motivate his new column, Popular Mechanics' Glenn Derene takes research data from a discussion here of his last column. He analyzes a new study released this week — revealing that fully 49 percent of Americans 'only occasionally use modern gadgetry' — to compare the rise of the PC with that of the TV and ask a big question: What keeps the most important and powerful communication tool since the telephone from being universally embraced?"
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Meanwhile, back at the point, I think people forget too easily that the U.S. is a large country. If we're going to lament technology adoption let's compare it to say China or Australia or some other country with a large citizenry. Also, what does "all that digital life has to offer" mean? Are they dealing strictly with Internet technology or factoring in HD adoption?
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Throw a party.
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Money is one factor, event though you can get a cheap computer fro under 700$ or even a seconds machine for under 300$ you still have to hook it up to the internet,
For some people that is a;ready too much money and also the fact that a lot of user have computers at work and fell like they dont need to buy one since they do everything at work (unfortunately)
You can still have a full life without being an internet addict, they are still BOOKS out there.
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Well... (Score:5, Interesting)
So in my family, we had what we called the yearly "Fix the Television" event. This would be somewhat akin to reinstalling the OS in your computer. It involved taking the back off the television and with a combination of compressed air and a vacuum, removing most of the dust. Sometimes it involved replacing weak solder joints. But it always involved replacing worn out vacuum tubes.
Each vacuum tube, of which there were perhaps 20 total, was removed one at a time and carefully wrapped in kleenex and placed in a box. This box then was taken down to Radio Shack where each tube was placed into the tube tester to verify it's performance characteristics.
After buying the new tubes to replace the old ones, back home we came to reassemble the television.
People today lament about how there is no longer a need for television repair men. Instead people keep their televisions for 10-15 years and when they die they throw them away. Some day people will be complaining about how you don't need a help desk, and desktop support teams.
That day can't come soon enough for me.
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Digital TV is fixing that problem. My TV needed a firmware upgrade applied by a TV repair man. Before that we had to reboot it every day.
(No, I'm not kidding, sadly. I predict that in 10 years' time, you'll be rebooting your toaster.)
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Dunno about that. The computer is a programmable device, thus its always changing (running different apps). The TV runs one app (the tv) and has very simple functions (on/off, channel change) etc. Its interesting to see the low levels of tech adoption when it comes to tivo, 5.1 or HDTV. A lot of people dont care for the added complexity of a TV system, a PC system a 100x worse. I think its osmething
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Ummm, yesterday. New TV's support multiple input devices (Game consoles, PVR's, DVD player / recorders, cable boxes, PC's), multiple aspect ratios, etc. We've got an all-in-one remote that turns devices on off, changes settings, depending on what you want to do. It even works, most of the time
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That would work quite well with most devices. Though not with a PC, analog cable, or a continuous external video source (i.e. baby or security video camera).
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I think this comment is right on, in terms of not even getting the "why bother" aspect for PCs
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PCs are just not consumer ready - only apple comes close to switch it on and it works, even if you do have to wait two minutes.
For the majority of the population they just dont do anything that useful.
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It's not exactly what you're getting at, but the Logitech Harmony remote [logitech.com] does make life a heck of alot easier.
Also, I'm not sold on the whole voice command thing. That's great for a single person watching TV by themselves in a quiet room. Add in three kids, a dog, someone talking on the phone in the next room, and other noises and voice
Why, you ask? (Score:5, Funny)
I was going to say "Windows" (Score:4, Funny)
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I believe a large part of window's problems are the fact that since MS wants it on every computer in the world, so they have to make it appealing to everyone. They want geeks to like it, but they also want John Q. Public to like it as well. Therefore, windows is a compromise of power, customizability, and
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Some people seem to think MacOSX gracefully combines power and ease of use. It sure does seem to be popular with the CS professors. Ubuntu
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It's more than that, though. Once you buy a TV, you're pretty much done for the next 10 years until you buy a new one. Sure, you can susbscribe to cable or satellite, but that's been a creeping cost that people have gently learned to accept.
With computers, everything is a la carte. Of course, MS and Apple have tried to add in everything you need, but the embedded programs are generally highly restricted. Sit down fanbois - show me an _embedded_ app that lets you rip an
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And the answer to this problem is ... Linux!
Computers are still the automobile of the 1920s, or the private aircraft of today. They work, but it's hardly something the average person can really understand and use without a significant investment in both time and money.
An interesting parallel, ta
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Trust me. It's not. Linux makes Windows look like a TV. A dysfunctional, expensive, TV that should be replaced every 6 to 12 months. Linux is that 3 CRT front projection TV you picked up by the side of the road during the town's spring clean up because it "just might work" and a couple of trips to the junk yard might just net you the four or five tubes you need to fire that baby up. Oh, sure, with a CS degree and a few hundred free hours to kill you might end up w
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No one had to be "bludgeoned" into buying the PC clone that was designed and priced for the mass market. That fit well into both the home and office. Apple's tightly held bundle of hardware and software gave it a secure niche market - which has shown little growth or change in thirty years. Linux arrived late to the party and - as your post suggests - is still identified with the Geek with a grievance, a chip on his shoulder. Som
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Plus, TV is completely passive. You just have to turn it on, and it entertains you. Even when it's online, a PC is not that passive and easy to use.
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I was going to say "Windows" (Score:5, Funny)
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Connecting your devices to all the tubes (Score:3, Insightful)
Blame the phone companies (Score:4, Insightful)
I would have thought the neo-Libertarians here would be cheering for state controlled corporatism. Isn't that what you've been working for?
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And how is that paranoia working out that the tech companies are helping to foster? Use a PC and terrorists will rape your kids on the internet while stealing your
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I wouldn't take him to task for making up/misusing a word - since you have no idea what facist [wikipedia.org] means.
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Kinda depends on whether the government controls the corporations or the corporations control the government. The former tends to be called Socialism, the latter tends to be called Fascism [wikipedia.org], more properly Corporatism.
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I would think Libertarians would not want anything state controlled - since they believe in limited government and all.
You are thinking of Facists (state controlled corporatism).
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Once you get over "cor
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Someday - perhaps - the geek may learn this lesson:
No one in the consumer market gives a damn about the price of OEM Windows -what they do give a damn about is the price of the latest mass market OEM Windows system bundle.
With specs that look damn good even if you have been out of the
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Tv is passive, I can sit there and drool at it watching the guy getting kicked in the crotch show all day long. The computer takes not only knowledge and mental ability, but the worst part it takes EFFORT to use.
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Requires knowledge? Check, you even have to pass a test.
UI sucks? Check.
Complicated? Check.
Takes some getting used to? Check.
Hardware replacements and upgrades very expensive? Check.
Yet they've seen very high adoption rates.
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A few things about the Phone... (Score:2)
2. They are an appliance, if you break one all you need is to do is replace it.
3. The user interface is very simple: punch in three to ten numbers and then talk to the person you called.
4. Why do most people need a new way of communicating when they are perfectly happy with the phone?
My guess is that the big reason is there is no great pressure to adopt digital communication, you can do everything you need without a computer.
Computers are too interactive (Score:4, Insightful)
It's much harder to use a computer the same way. It's a much more interactive experience. Not only do you have to have some basic knowledge of how they work, you have to click on stuff or something. Take poor people in third world countries as an example - how long would it take to teach them to use a computer well enough to keep themselves entertained? Compare that with the level of training needed to use a television.
In both cases, the vast majority of users utilize the technology for entertainment. There are a lot of educational uses available for both technologies, but most users have no interest in that. Mindless entertainment is TV. Interactive entertainment is games/web browsing.
Not everyone wants interactive entertainment. There are a lot of people who get up, go to work, perform some dull, repetetive task, come home and want to continue their zombie lifestyle with a few beers and some background noise/visual stimulation. There's no way for interactive media like computers to compete with television in the zombie market segment.
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The zombie box keeps all of these zombies at home every night where they should be. The last thing we need is a bunch of zombies roaming the streets because there's no television. The documentaries on zombie invasions clearly teach us that you have to shoot them in the head to make them stay down. Wi
Comparing Apples and Oranges (Score:3, Insightful)
The TV is a single use, passive, entertainment medium whereas the PC is a multi use, active, tool. In other terms the TV is 'lean back' technology whereas the PC is 'lean forward' technology. Whichever way you put it they are not the same.
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Many successful people today have had little anything to do with information systems or a computer, at least in the sense of interactivity attributes. I am not a luddite, but in fact, there is no *need* for most of these technologies, just nice to have available. Just consider how others got work done in the
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Simple. Human stupidity and laziness, especially the reluctance to take the time to learn key concepts such as computer security and e-mail attachment limits.
I don't blame the ones who are truly unable to adapt and learn to work with the new technology, but the ones who are clearly capable, but ignorant enough to not care, are the ones who contribute to a nation-wide, condescending attitude towards the technologically-trained. Some could say that technology has pampered the public enough to the point that they expect computers to do everything for them and denounce it if they cannot open a bootleg copy of Spiderman 3 because of a lack of video codecs.
Because people don't need them. (Score:5, Insightful)
Mental Block and Bad Software and Bad Directrion (Score:2)
Bad Software Computer OS's and Software are designed in the most part to try to do everything. Which creates a horible interface (Apples Included). For many people the Apple II were so much easier then modern systems. You put the disk in for the program you want to run and your turn the computer O
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it's voluntary (Score:3, Insightful)
Everyone else pointed to the relative complexity, but I think it's more than that.
There are not many televisions in the workplace-- it's a toy for your leisure.
There are often more computers than desired at the workplace-- it's a tool of commerce. Many people just don't want that sort of thing to be prominent in their home lives too.
You've never worked at ANY of my recent clients... (Score:2)
Because were are not all the same. (Score:5, Interesting)
Rural America has more pressing issues than the net, let alone the people with manual labor type jobs. Don't classify them as ignorant either. Many of them do a far better job at raising their families than the so called "educated elite". They don't need the net as a subsitute for life and friends. They don't need TV shows for entertainment, let alone care to see the violence in big cities portrayed in fiction and fact.
Its America stupid, we are not one giant homogenized horde. We are little tight knit groups spread out across a large area all enjoying the freedom this country affords, and that freedom can and does mean not doing what everyone thinks you should be doing. Hell there are times I wish I could live back on the farm, work 12 to 14 hour days, and never see a computer. Somethings the simpler life is actually better.
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This shows
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You don't think this is a problem on the 'net? There are thousands of little groups that hang out with each other, online, because they re-enforce each other's beliefs. Look at profiles on MySpace or other sites and see how many people are looking for a "safe" place to talk about things. I see that as code for "think like I do".
All that the Internet has enabled is that people can now hang out with other people just like them - Regardless of Geography.
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If you want to live like you're in the 1800s, you shouldn't pick and choose what parts of that lifestyle you'll accept. Don't be a hypocrite. At least those crazy religious groups are being consistent.
"Let them eat cake" (Score:2)
Not a whippersnapper,
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Embrace IT gadgets != happiness (Score:3, Insightful)
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Anyone can learn to use a computer, there's no magic to it. It doesn't require talent
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I'd rather not pay taxes, or go to work, or drive at the speed limit, or any number of other things. We do these things because we have to. Becoming computer literate needs to stop being optional IMHO; it should be at the same leve
Comapre to VCR, not TV (Score:2, Insightful)
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list of reasons (Score:5, Interesting)
Old People (Score:2, Insightful)
Answer: an aging population. [nationalatlas.gov]
TV Too Easy? We can fix that... (Score:4, Interesting)
Those people obviously aren't looking far enough into the future.
I see a world with a mess of cords behind each and every TV; one where HDMI gets half-adapted as the "one true solution" for each component, before 3 new incompatible versions of the cord come out.
I see a world of MS Media Center. A world where it takes a day or two to set up your TV. A world which requires firmware updates to DVRs, firmware updates to DVD players, firmware updates to BluRay / HD-DVD players, HDCP updates to TVs -- without which none of the above components will work. Dare I even say that the first non-computer electronics virus will come within the next 2 years?
I see a world of TV remotes with full-sized keyboards so you can buy Pay-Per-View movies directly from the internet, and view them the next day when they download. I see a world where the bootup time for your setup is measured in minutes, not seconds.
Perhaps, some day in the future, after work we will go home to watch some TV to relax. Then we will all go outside in order to relax from watching TV.
There is a reason. (Score:5, Funny)
The answer is incredibly simple, except.... (Score:2)
And that is the answer. Industry dumbing down of the users!
Housekeepers don't need PCs (Score:2)
Consuela doesn't need to get on the internet to turn the bedsheets at the Holiday Inn.
Take TV and go VOD for a prime example (Score:2)
Because, as it's been said numerous times now, it's easy. Push a button, there's Jerry. Push another one, here's Jonny. And if you wait long enough, there's your porn. It's easy, it's comfortable and it doesn't take an IQ above room temperature to operate one. Not even in Minnesota with a broken heating.
VOD requires a bit more "work". You have to select the program, you have to figure out what buttons to press in what order to get your m
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1. Cost is a red herring. Telephones and televisions cost a lot too until the technology became ubiquitous... And today's $500 PCs aren't especially more expensive than the $300 TVs.
2. Complexity is a red herring. With early TVs you danced with the antenna and tweaked the tuner to get a decent signal. Computers are a little more diffcult, but only a little.
3. Intrusion. The rise of telemarketing
It's stupidity, stupid (Score:2, Flamebait)
When a sizeable portion of people believe the earth is 6000 years old (if not flat),
when a sizeable portion of people go to church every sunday,
when a sizeable portion of people think that condoms are evil,
when a sizeable portion of people think that atheists are the tool of satan,
when a sizeable portion of people think that guns reduce crime,
it means that the general level of stupidity is too high to have everyone to be able to use a computer, because computers are logic.
Universally embraced... (Score:2, Funny)
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Remember the internet appliance? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Its ... (Score:3, Funny)
Patch Tuesday.
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That map reminds me of the red state/blue state electoral college map. You can see the dividing line at the Ohio river. You could compare things like poverty, average income, teenage pregnancy and the like and it would look pretty similar.
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Those maps very closely follow population density. That does not seem to be the case here to such a degree.
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Better double check your internet pricing. I could drop my cable, but it would cost me an extra $15 a month to get just broadband. Interestingly, I'm only paying $15 for basic cable. What a coincidence.
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OS X.