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Fan Fiction Writers Balk at FanLib.com 178

bill jackson writes "A couple of former Yahoo execs are trying to create the next MySpace by aggregating fanfiction on a website called FanLib. But the fanfic writers recognized that exploitation was written all over the idea and they've refused to participate. 'Instead of creating the Myspace of fanfic since the launch two weeks ago, FanLib.com sparked a white-hot Internet firestorm.The meltdown is a hard lesson in how not to conduct business on the Internet.But it's a firestorm of FanLib's own making because, in spite of the Yahoo pedigree (or maybe because of it), they plowed in like china shop bulls.'"
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  • Oh fuck (Score:5, Funny)

    by Richard McBeef ( 1092673 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:04PM (#19328633)
    The fanfic crowd is riled up. Everyone take cover!
    • Re:Oh fuck (Score:5, Funny)

      by eln ( 21727 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:10PM (#19328735)
      I expect a torrent of slash fanfic featuring Yahoo executives shortly.
      • Just did a search on some pages, no .torrents.

        Why did you have to get my hopes up?

        Before you flame me, be honest, who here wouldn't even PAY to see some execs being maimed and mauled?
    • Re:Oh fuck (Score:4, Informative)

      by Itanshi ( 861931 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @07:32PM (#19330639)
      http://kitesareevil.livejournal.com/257387.html?fo rmat=light [livejournal.com]
      http://www.my2centences.com/my2c_new/FanLib_info.p df [my2centences.com]

      That is what we fanfic writers are upset about. The PDF is evidence and proof of their corporate ulterior motives and the first link explains a lot of this better than the given link and the connection between my2centences and fanlib.
  • LJ (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Turn-X Alphonse ( 789240 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:06PM (#19328663) Journal
    What about the recent news of the LJ fanfic writers flare up? LJ have deleted a massive amount of accounts and well known communities (some 5 years and older) over night with no explination or reason given.
    • Re:LJ (Score:5, Informative)

      by minkowski ( 232452 ) <morkoleb AT yahoo DOT com> on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:23PM (#19329015)
      This is the most comprehensive and informative link [livejournal.com] I've seen on that. And Boingboing picked the story up this morning. I heard from a friend in a fanfic community there that they were deleting journals just because the keywords "rape" or "incest" were used in the interests field. So the journals of some rape victims and incest survivors were suddenly terminated.

      I don't know why slashdot hasn't picked it up. This place is so slow. Digg and Reddit already have stories about it which are getting voted up and should be on the front page by this evening
      • Re:LJ (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Knara ( 9377 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:38PM (#19329267)
        Because slashdot isn't well known for "breaking" news. It's an aggregator of news that has already been published and sourced. Moreso the better, if you ask me, since we don't have to deal with Digg/Reddit's "get it first and vote for me!" culture.
        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by ElderKorean ( 49299 )
          Because slashdot isn't well known for "breaking" news. It's an aggregator of news that has already been published and sourced.

          Though slashdot is well known for breaking sites that happen to have breaking news.
        • Because slashdot isn't well known for "breaking" news.

          We won't have it first, but we'll re-post this 'news' more times than anybody! Let's see Digg beat that!

    • Man, I gotta cut down on the caffeine and get more sleep. I was really confused about why the fanfic folks were having their LinuxJournal [linuxjournal.com] forum accounts terminated.
      • Man, I gotta cut down on the caffeine and get more sleep. I was really confused about why the fanfic folks were having their LinuxJournal forum accounts terminated.
        It was all the Linus Torvalds/Steve Ballmer slash fiction that caused it.
    • Re:LJ (Score:5, Interesting)

      by mdwh2 ( 535323 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @06:47PM (#19330185) Journal
      See here [com.com].

      And not just fanfic communities, I've seen adult/fetish communities also suspended, and support sites for survivors of abuse may be at risk (since they list keywords such as "incest" or "rape"...).

      LiveJournal has yet to make a statement, but I find the quote from Six Apart's CEO given in the article rather worrying:

      "Our decision here was not based on pure legal issues. It was based on what community we want to build and what we think is appropriate within that community and what's not."

      Righto, so Six Apart are saying it doesn't matter if it's entirely legal, they're going to start banning journals based on what they think is "appropriate".
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        "Our decision here was not based on pure legal issues. It was based on what community we want to build and what we think is appropriate within that community and what's not."

        Righto, so Six Apart are saying it doesn't matter if it's entirely legal, they're going to start banning journals based on what they think is "appropriate".

        No, they aren't saying "it doesn't matter if it's entirely legal". They're saying the decision was not based on legal issues, i.e., it wasn't just because they were afraid of being legally sued. In fact, they can legally ban journals based on what content they deem is "appropriate", as long as such a ban doesn't violate their stated Terms of Service.

      • by Ayanami Rei ( 621112 ) * <rayanami AT gmail DOT com> on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @09:53PM (#19331835) Journal
        ...on a website I don't control.

        Invariably, when a site gets popular, it attracts the attention of people who would like to ruin your shit. Things like this happen.

        Don't rely on third parties if you have speech you want to protect.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Let the bad fanfiction about the bad fanfiction site begin.

    It never ends.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:15PM (#19328847)
      ScuttleMonkey was manning the Slashdot queue. "Fan Fiction Writers Balk at FanLib.com" suddenly appeared amid a sea of more interesting stories, but ScuttleMonkey knew this was his next frontpager. He always knew, even before he was an editor. Minutes before the story was set to go live, CmdrTaco saw it and ran, if you can call it that, down the hallway. "STOP!" he screamed. "This is a terrible story! You must remove it." ScuttleMonkey pulled out a knife, stabbing Taco in the heart before he had a chance to react. "Remove that, Taco!" cried ScuttleMonkey as he watched the story go live.
  • ...better than they write their complaints. I can barely make heads or tails of the linked article. The "Read More" link isn't much better. From what I can tell, Fanlib is big and corporate, which scares away people who want to write slash fiction. Oooookaaay.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by eln ( 21727 )
      If the Internet doesn't exist to host Harry Potter slash fanfic, then what the hell is it for?
    • by Liselle ( 684663 )
      Err, haven't read much fanfic, have you?
      • Actually, I used to read the Usenet archives of the Star Trek fanfic. (This was well over a decade ago.) When I ran out of fiction to read, I emailed the maintainer to find out why the FTP site wasn't being updated. He pointed me to the new archive on another site. What I found was that it was mostly overrun with NC17 "fiction", so I just stopped reading altogether.
        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by DarkOx ( 621550 )
          Man NC17 that must have been one old Star Cruzier I mean hell they were already up to NC1701 in the seriess. Thats like 1684 ships prior to Enterprise.
          • by g1zmo ( 315166 )
            Probably quite a few more than that! How many iterations of each ship were there? 1701-A through D, etc..
        • by Xiaran ( 836924 )
          I hate to post a me too post, but I also used to read the same stuff you did. Some of it was quite good(I particularly recall a series about a federation ship going on a mission in an advanced prototype into borg space to collect info that could well have been edited into a fairly reasonable novel). Then it all seemed to go to hell with slash stuff... which really isnt my scene.

          Its damn shame... maybe Ill google around to see if any of the good stuff is still around.
          • U.S.S. Cavalier!

            I still have it printed out somewhere. Nebula of the Living Dead (name?) was really good too! :P

            You can still find Cavalier (packed in an ancient .Z file) here: http://www.theworld.com/obi/Star.Trek.Stories/ [theworld.com]

            Another favorite of mine was the one where Picard and Crusher's daughter (ok, that one was a bit of a stretch) commanded a later Enterprise. And Moriarty became the computer! (It was written before they resolved the Moriarty storyline on the show. :))
    • by Bent Mind ( 853241 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @06:00PM (#19329589)
      I found this in one of the comments:

      While fan-fiction has been labeled as such since the original Star Trek series phenomenon, it has actually existed for far longer in the form of colorful histories about real or imagined people. (I would point to the Arthurian legends, Shakespeare and the Homeric epics, to name but a very few.) It is a fundamental form of recorded expression that has spawned both masterpieces and drivel since the beginning of history, and we will lose much if it is ever actually declared illegal. Quite apart from the disrespect evinced by Mr. Williams, many people are worried that FanLib's efforts will bring down a lawsuit that could result in such a ruling. Perhaps if we lived in a society whose approach to intellectual property was more balanced, a commercial fan-fiction site might have some merit...
      I can understand their fear of attention. I remember, back when I was a teenager, a friend had his computer seized. He ran a BBS that offered up/downloads. There were several images, drawn by fans, of Garfield the cat. It's been a very long time. However, I believe they got him on trademark infringement. I'd imagine that fan fiction writers are subject to the same laws.
  • If I had, I probably would have mocked it less when I was young, dumb, and running from hole to hole like a golfer on crack.
  • by sehlat ( 180760 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:12PM (#19328777)
    and got themselves clawed.

    I suspect an awful lot of the negative reaction comes from three factors:

    1. Membership in the site would certainly have a "We own your postings." clause in the Terms of Service.

    2. *And* a "We reserve the right to censor anything you post we don't like." clause.

    and the cherry on top:

    3. An unwritten consequence of (1) would be: "If it's really good, we'll use it to make money. Thanks suckers." clause.

    And just remember, in Hollywood, "Trust us." translates to "F**k you."
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Derekloffin ( 741455 )
      You know, although I'd be a little ticked about losing money, if someone would take my fanfiction and turn it into a real show I'd be overall very happy. Of course, they'd probably butcher it, but hey, I could still claim bragging rights.
      • by Original Replica ( 908688 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @06:22PM (#19329891) Journal
        "I got fucked out of a $100 million box office movie script" isn't bragging rights, it's suicide watch.
        • "I got fucked out of a $100 million box office movie script" isn't bragging rights, it's suicide watch.
          i'm curious how much the people that actually write scripts for a living earn for writing a "$100 million box office movie script"
      • by Rei ( 128717 )
        "You authorize FanLib to make, reproduce, distribute, and display these summaries or descriptions on FanLib.com or through its services but not for any other purpose unrelated to FanLib.com. If you mark any of Your Content private, we will not promote and/or showcase Your Content."

        They're not planning to put you on TV or in print. They want to use you to market FanLib.

        There's only several thousand times too many people already submitting novels in comparison to how many get published. You think they want
    • I'm the lawyers for the actual copyright holders would have something to say about #3.
    • by pla ( 258480 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:32PM (#19329163) Journal
      I suspect an awful lot of the negative reaction comes from three factors: 1. Membership in the site would certainly have a "We own your postings." clause in the Terms of Service.

      "At FanLib, we expect you to post the content you create ("Your Content") on the website. You keep any and all rights to Your Content. FanLib does not own any rights to Your Content."


      2. *And* a "We reserve the right to censor anything you post we don't like." clause.

      "FanLib encourages and supports active and open publication of fan fiction in a lawful and civil manner. We do not monitor the FanLib Website for inappropriate content or conduct"

      (The only "we reserve the right to remove..." they give as part of that applies to outright illegal content).


      3. An unwritten consequence of (1) would be: "If it's really good, we'll use it to make money. Thanks suckers." clause.

      "You authorize FanLib to make, reproduce, distribute, and display these summaries or descriptions on FanLib.com or through its services but not for any other purpose unrelated to FanLib.com. If you mark any of Your Content private, we will not promote and/or showcase Your Content."



      I consider myself about as anti-corporate as they come, but I really can't see the fuss over FanLib's TOS. It pretty much addresses every concern you raised.
      • by SkipRosebaugh ( 50138 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:38PM (#19329275) Homepage
        Yeah, that's the face they present to the writers.

        Check out the face they present to the publishers: http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/005131.html [scalzi.com]
        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by cathector ( 972646 )
          but if you follow the link above leads us to a link to this [my2centences.com] page,
          which contains this text:

          "If you're looking for the FanLib brochure, it has been removed.
          Published in 2004, the brochure contained outdated information for special collaborative events."

          so saying that this is the face they present to publishers may not be w/o controversy.
        • by pla ( 258480 )
          Check out the face they present to the publishers

          I agree, that sounds totally different than what they say in their TOS - But I mean totally different. Like it doesn't even seem to apply to the same site.

          It sounds more like they intended the site as some sort of massively collaborative text-based "game", with the game flow controlled by people falling somewhere between "moderator" and "dungeon master" in their role.

          As for what they hoped to actually sell with that brochure, and to whom, ya got me th
    • by lrucker ( 621551 )
      Don't forget the "and if the copyright holders get pissed off, don't look to us for help" clause.
  • by Pantero Blanco ( 792776 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:14PM (#19328805)
    ...but the author of the article seems to be writing for an unrelated reason, and pulling some of her info out of thin air.

    Fanfiction dates back to Star Trek: The Original Series (ST-TOS) when fans published their own "fanzines" - anthologies of stories, complete with artwork.Written almost exclusively by women, fanfic is the fore-mother of user-generated content.

    They distributed ads with adolescent boy appeal that the women hated.


    The second quote links to someone's LiveJournal, and it's not the only one. This seems like a Cyber Sister storm to me.
    • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:24PM (#19329025) Homepage Journal

      The second quote links to someone's LiveJournal, and it's not the only one. This seems like a Cyber Sister storm to me.

      Yes, that is quite a problem with bloggers in general. Most of them are stupid enough to think that you will give one tenth of one shit about a link to a blog that no one outside of their social circle cares about.

      If I'm providing a link about tech, I don't send people to a fucking slashdot comment - unless it's full of good links.

      Linking to some fanfic author's blog is roughly the precise antithesis of reputability. And I don't want to unduly hurt anyone's feelings here, but I have two major problems with fanfic in general. The first one is that most of it is shit. Most of the people writing that stuff clearly weren't paying attention in their English classes in grammar school. The second one is that these people should grow a fucking imagination. It's pathetic enough when you have a show that is so endlessly officially rehashed. Fanfic is way beyond the pale there. The primary example is Star Trek - that show ran out of ideas before the first series was even over, and you could detect ToS stories recycled in ToS!

      But what the hell, I don't have a problem with the stuff existing - only with its self-importance. It's not important to anyone outside that particular social scene, except for various studios wishing they could leave a smoking hole in the ground where authors of slash fanfic once stood.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by dctoastman ( 995251 )
        You are so wrong.

        All of fanfic is shit. Not most. Other than that, I agree whole-heartedly.

        Consider this, none of those authors are now or will ever be published by a reputable publishing house (note, I say reputable, vanity presses will press any piece of shit).

        Fan fiction is the realm of the third or fourth rate writer. They are neither well-versed in their native language to make it interesting nor imaginative enough to create original stories. That is why most fan fiction descends into softcore pornogra
        • ...it seems the only good fanfics are the ones that center around stories and characters that had poor writing behind them anyway. Basically it functions as a bridge to the audience; you go in already knowing something about the background and the characters, and presumably the author has a new angle or bone to pick and would like to "sell you" that.
          Writers scratching an itch.

          And if the fics are good, then the authors are already writers of original work that is popular on their own merits. This is just a w
      • by Rei ( 128717 )
        It's not limited to fanfic. Too many wannabe writers are seemingly incapable of having originality. Right now, agents who take fantasy authors are getting flooded with stories about dragons and dragon riders because of Eragon. After The DaVinci Code came out, DaVinci/church conspiracy stories were all the rage in the slush pile. And so on. Some people seem incapable of avoiding following trends.

        Yes, spinoffs of trends do happen. They're often done on contract by established authors with a rushed timel
    • My brain hit a speedbump when I saw that quote. Women writing Star Trek fanfic?? I never met any at the Star Trek cons back in the seventies. In fact, I never saw any women at the conventions.

      Come to think about it, I never saw them camping out for the Star Wars movies either. Where are they?? A million nerds want to know.
      • by AJWM ( 19027 )
        Where are they??

        Hiding, because...

        A million nerds want to know.

        Seriously, I remember my high school GF and some of her friends wrote fanfic, very early 70s. I don't recall much Trek, there was also "Department S", "The Champions", and some other Brit shows that hit Canadian TV around then.
  • by Shadow Wrought ( 586631 ) * <shadow@wrought.gmail@com> on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:14PM (#19328813) Homepage Journal
    But these are the numbers off the front page for quantity:
    1. Harry Potter (514)
    2. Stargate: SG-1 (159)
    3. CSI (153)
    4. Supernatural (153)
    5. Stargate: Atlantis (140)
    6. Star Wars (136)
    7. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer (135)
    8. Battlestar Galactica: 2003 (115)
    9. X-Men: The Movie (107)
    10. Original Fandom (103)
    11. Thunderbirds (94)
    12. West Wing (92)
    13. Lord of the Rings (86)
    14. Gilmore Girls (85)
    15. Star Trek: Enterprise (84)
    16. Pirates of the Caribbean (76)
    17. X-Men: Evolution (62)
    18. Sailor Moon (61)
    19. Friends (60)
    20. Naruto (53)

    2500+ odd stories in 2 weeks certainly makes one wonder if some of the fanfictioners didn't get the memo that they were supposed to be ticked.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      2500+ odd stories in 2 weeks certainly makes one wonder if some of the fanfictioners didn't get the memo that they were supposed to be ticked.

      That doesn't totally suck, I guess, but it's worth nothing that fanfiction.net has almost 300,000 stories -- in the Harry Potter category alone (granted, that's over many years).

      I wonder how much advertising money they spent for that 2,500.

      • Probably enough that they could've hired professional writers to write every single one of those stories.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Phanatic1a ( 413374 )
      Looking at that list, I can't figure out how these execs are thinking they're going to be able to dodge copyright issues. I mean, YouTube has it tough enough, with the RIAA sending takedown notices for short clips that simply include copyright music playing in the background, but each and every one of those stories is a derivative work of a well-known existing and maintained copyright.

      NB: I'm not saying fanfic is all a copyright violation. There's plenty of well-known fanfic about characters whose copyrig
  • by antifoidulus ( 807088 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:16PM (#19328855) Homepage Journal
    They created a service that if people use would make them a profit, and if people don't, then oh well. The only real beef in the article seems to be about some overzealous advertising, which can be annoying but hardly exploitative. It's not like they are chaining fanfiction writers to their desks, forcing them to churn out 20 Harry Potter fanfics a day or else they will be deported.....Can we please lay off the overly emotional language?
    • by slapout ( 93640 )
      Yeah, it wouldn't really be a MySpace clone if it didn't have a lot of overzealous advertising.
    • By its very nature, fan fiction is exploitative. I'm not sure why anyone would feel they had a legitimate reason to bitch.
    • by Scutter ( 18425 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @06:15PM (#19329813) Journal
      You apparently missed the part of the brochure [typepad.com] they sent as marketing. The part that says "Managed and Moderated to the Max" or the part that says "Full monitoring and management of submissions" or perhaps even that part that says "Completed work is just 1st draft to be polished by the pros".

      In other words, fans take something they love, write extensions to it for their own not-for-profit amusement, hand it to FanLib, and proceed to get completely exploited. Oh, but in return they'll maybe get a free t-shirt or something. No thanks. Clearly, they have no concept of what fanfic is and are completely out of touch with writers in general.
  • You used to get bizarre trolls around here that took our learned editor-folk and made them characters in short, absurdly pornographic fictitious literary scenes.

    Guess that too counts as fan-fiction, right?

  • Hm...At first, this would seem like a victory for literacy and the market. I mean, the notion that the fanfic community would at least pause to discuss amongst themselves before jumping in, indicates a higher level of capability than the average "social networking" site member. So yes, "Fanfic writers > txt kiddies" would be an accurate statement.

    But...I doubt this site will go away anytime soon. I'd actually be more concerned with the scenario of publishers/content providers declaring this aggregator
  • by Chairboy ( 88841 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:31PM (#19329151) Homepage
    Quite frankly, I won't form an opinion until we've heard an official response from the most influential contingent in fan-fiction:

    Furries.

    Without their unique insight into subjects like "Kirk romances a full sized Gadget from Chip n' Dale's Rescue Rangers" or "What would happen if the crew of the NX-01 were anthropomorphic animals and there's maybe a crossover with the X-Men why not?", we would have no way of knowing what we did and didn't like about the various trek series, and, by extension, an online repository of stories.

    So count me out until the "Commander Troi as a sexy lemur" crowd weighs in, THEN I'll know what to think.
    • by ettlz ( 639203 )

      "What would happen if the crew of the NX-01 were anthropomorphic animals and there's maybe a crossover with the X-Men why not?"
      Bloody hell... if you did that, you could get at least ten novels out of Phlox alone.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      This is why you shouldn't publish just any damn thing you write when you're stoned on catnip.
    • Without their unique insight into subjects like "Kirk romances a full sized Gadget from Chip n' Dale's Rescue Rangers" or "What would happen if the crew of the NX-01 were anthropomorphic animals and there's maybe a crossover with the X-Men why not?", we would have no way of knowing what we did and didn't like about the various trek series, and, by extension, an online repository of stories.

      I've never heard of anything of the sort, but that sounds amusing. Got a link to any of that?

    • "What would happen if the crew of the NX-01 were anthropomorphic animals and there's maybe a crossover with the X-Men why not?"

      Well, not furry (except for some of the X-Men, but that's expected); not the NX-01, but the NCC-1701; and not a fanfic, but an official crossover (!); but here you go [tripod.com].

      There were two also official kind of sequels with the NCC-1701-D crew [wikipedia.org].

  • "Terry Semel at Yahoo doesn't really understand how to run an Internet business"
  • by writermike ( 57327 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @05:45PM (#19329379)
    This marks the first legitimate shot for a Kirk/Spock TV pilot.

    Star Trek
    The Search for Spock's Nipple

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by PhxBlue ( 562201 )

      I'm sending you the bill for the three gallons of brain detergent it will take to get that image out of my head.

  • The summary mentions it alot, which makes me wonder, how much does Bill Jackson actually know about the kids? Who wants to create the next MySpace? Not me. Who wants to read about some guy creating the next MySpace? Not me.
  • by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Wednesday May 30, 2007 @06:00PM (#19329581)
    When I want my dose of Internet fiction, the stuff that's fun to read yet what publishers won't touch, I go to the following:

    Stories OnLine [storiesonline.net]
    The Pendorwright Projects [pendorwright.com]
    usenet:assm

    And none of this is lining any corporation's pockets off the sweat of the authors.

  • FanLib looks like it's only purpose is to exploit, control and profit from the writings of fanfiction writers, people who only want a forum to show their work and express their enthusiasm. The marketing strategy pdf proclaims it will be "turnkey entertainment marketing service" where converted works will become "fanisodes". That's right, "turnkey".

    Other choice lines include:
    • a mass audience collaborate democratically in a fun online game that you control
    • Massive Viral Marketing
    • As with a coloring book, players must "stay within the lines"
    • Restrictive player's terms-of-service protects your rights and property


    I'm currently majoring in business marketing , and I can't believe the misanthropical tone and language of their marketing plan. It's as cynical and exploitive as I've ever read.
  • Fanfiction.net? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Shinra ( 1057198 )
    I've occasionally posted stuff @ fanfiction.net, what makes this
    new website significantly different?
  • Between Yahoo Executives http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/1 1 0443243/article.pl [slashdot.org] and lawyers, darn it, I'm on the side of the lawyers. Tear them a new one, my well-healed Mercedes-driving friends. Class Action. You know the drill. Do it for the Gipper, and Wang Xiaoning http://www.hrichina.org/public/contents/press?revi sion_id=27803&item_id=27801 [hrichina.org]
  • Because frankly, slashdot has been very disappointing in this regard.
  • Somehow I don't think General Electric and Proctor and Gamble want to be known as supporters of fantasy depictions of gay mind control sex between tom cruise and has anthropomorhic clone.

    yiff!
    • Dear Mr. Dircha,

      you're right. We didn't consider that and will immediately pull out of that website, as we do not want our name associated with Tom Cruise. Future ad partnerships will be with more wholesome sites like Yiffnet, Anthro Incest Paradise and goatse.cx.
      Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

      Sincerely,
      Proctor McGambleson,
      VP of Marketing, Proctor and Gamble
  • Now I'm not sure where to post my latest "Wesley Crusher Plays Doctor with his Mom" story!

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