EU Google Competitor Project Gets Aid Worth $166 Million

mernil wrote with the news that the EU Commission has given the go-ahead to provide funding for Germany's search engine project, called Theseus. Early this year we discussed Germany's withdrawal from the French project Quaero. From the outside, it looks like the EU Commission is unwilling to put all its eggs in one basket, funding the German project to the tune of 120 million euro, or $US 166 million. Dow Jones reports: "The aim is to develop new search technologies for the next generation Internet, including 'semantic technologies which try to recognize the meaning of content and place it in its proper context.' The semantic Web has been considered the next evolution of the Internet at least since Tim Berners-Lee, widely considered a creator of the current version of the Internet, published an article describing it in 2001. In theory, a semantic Web could receive a user request for information about fishing, for example, and automatically narrow the results according to the user's individual needs rather than blanket the user with pages related to numerous aspects of fishing. The Commission's funding approval Thursday immediately sparked talk of building a potential European challenger to Web search leader Google Inc."

uh...

[rs79]

"since Tim Berners-Lee, widely considered a creator of the current version of the Internet"

Yeah, right.

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[jovius]

Yeah. Right ?

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[Tribbin]

I haven't heard the name before but his contributions seem rather important.

"The NeXTcube used by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN became the first Web server."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee [wikipedia.org]

Re:uh...

[dreamchaser]

Yes, he is the inventor of the World Wide Web more or less, and the first http browser and server. I'm surprised you hadn't heard of him.

The problem is he didn't come close to inventing the Internet, hence the GP to this post. The Internet is just a big honkin wide area network that uses IP as it's underlying protocol. The Web is an application.

Re:uh...

[rs79]

To put it in historical perspective, Tim took MIME that Einar Stefferud invented (Stef also invented and ran the first mailing list) and HTML (which came indirectly from Brian Reid's PhD thesis, brian also invented the firewall and alta vista) and glommed them all together and invented http. You can see Tim talking about this in comp.infosystems.www in the late 80s early 90s.

Pity there was no internet to shuffle all those usenet articles and mail about. No doubt that would have helped.

Gah.

Re:uh...

[Maxmin]

There isn't much to the internet without http. The only other protocol that comes even close

I know! Those other silly protocols, like SMTP, IMAP4, MIME, POP3, DNS, NTP, FTP, SIP, SNMP, SSH, telnet, RPC, RTSP, TLS/SSL, SOAP, ... nobody uses 'em much.

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[Nushio]

I know! Those other silly protocols, like SMTP, IMAP4, MIME, POP3, DNS, NTP, FTP, SIP, SNMP, SSH, telnet, RPC, RTSP, TLS/SSL, SOAP, ... nobody uses 'em much.

I've heard of SMTP, IMAP, MIME and the rest, but whats this Soap you speak of?

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[code65536]

MIME is soooooo not a protocol. Heck, it doesn't even end in P! :P

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[Kohath]

Are you Al Gore?

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[skilledbachelor]

See "The Semantic Web," by Tim Berners-Lee, James Hendler and Ora Lassila; Scientific American, May 2001

Have a VC / startup mentality

[maelstrom]

Instead of big government bureaucracy, trying to force a Google competitor from the top down, the EU should be seeding promising European startups. The next Google is probably not going to look anything like Google, and you aren't going to find it with this style of funding.

See also:

• How to be Silicon Valley [paulgraham.com]
• Why startups condense in America [paulgraham.com]

Re:Have a VC / startup mentality

[jgc7]

The VC / startup mentality is practically impossible in Germany or France because the labor markets are so rigid. The EU shouldn't be seeding promising startups, but rather loosing the labor markets so venture capital is promising to both investors and entrepreneurs. Giving millions to established corporations only makes the problem worse.

What they need is an environment where to two Phd students can go to some rich dude's doorstep, pitch an idea, and walk away with a check for $100k without ever being invited inside.

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[ai3]

It seems the situation is getting better in Germany in this regard, for example Hasso Plattner (one of SAP's founders) does exactly this [hp-ventures.com].

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[jez9999]

The EU shouldn't be seeding promising startups, but rather loosing the labor markets so venture capital is promising to both investors and entrepreneurs.

It's LOSING damnit, LOSING. Repeat after me, so you'll rem... oh.

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[code65536]

Not to be a language Nazi, but I think that the poster intended loosening

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[jgc7]

I didn't mean "LOSING". Maybe you would prefer "loosening", but my usage of "loosing" is correct.

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[Prof.Phreak]

Forget about seeding startups. Just make -lots- of grants to universities doing this type of research (160 million can sponsor thousands of projects!)---maybe some of them will be successful (big gov projects have a tendency of turning into money pits).

Re:Have a VC / startup mentality

[malsdavis]

That is pretty much what the THESEUS program is! Lots of academic and institutional research groups with centrally coordinated goals and objectives.

From the about page of the THESEUS website http://theseus-programm.de/about_theseus [theseus-programm.de]:
"At the current time, 31 research institutions, universities, and companies have joined the THESEUS program with planned projects. The industrial and public research partners are cooperating closely."

It appears this project was mainly requested by German industry and from the website seems that it will closely involve industry. It's quite funny though how the story submitter and many commenters here have twisted the facts to make the project sound as socialist as possible!

The story should really fit the facts though rather than the facts fitting the story!

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[pimpimpim]

Wrong, it is then a government-funded piece of work. In your definition all (US) military projects are socialist as well? Furthermore, I'd like to add that these kind of projects are set up in a pretty efficient business-like manner, even better. The researcher gets a clear set of goals to reach within a certain period of time, using a certain amount of money. Good thing is that during this few years of funding the scientist has hardly any administrative work to do to find funding (instead of begging for sm

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[Anonymous Coward]

Why are people labelling this "big government bureaucracy"? Just because it's funded by the government, it doesn't have to be awful. PyPy [pypy.org], for example, was mostly funded by the EU, and that's very promising. KDE has been partially funded by governments as well.

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[jandersen]

As I read it, the EU are not trying to 'make a competitor to Google' and 'force it from the top down'. They are simply funding research into new and better technologies; this is the way a lot of things are done in Europe, and we are having succes with it too. America used to do this too, before the president sold his soul to the devil and your future to the oil mafia.

Who knows what the future will bring? But there certainly are a number of real problems with Google's approach - among other the closed source

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[N3WBI3]

Or, and I know this is a silly thought on the east side of the pond, they could just make conditions better for entrepreneurs? Did the US government seed Google? Google stated in a garage and overcame significant market inertia ( from the likes of Yahoo ). I could somewhat understand the European fascination with nationalized businesses like AirBus and other utility companies but this is over the top. Just make it easier for some body in their garage to come up with something as good or better than google.

Nothing new

[saibot834]

Those commercial and non-free search engines are nothing new. Google, Yahoo, and also government-supported proprietary search engines like Theseus are all the same.

I am looking forward to see if free search engines such as Wikia Search will succeed. They are really something new and I can only wish their best.

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[Animats]

free search engines such as Wikia

The "free" part of Wikia is people working for free for Wikia. Wikia may have the same problem AOL did [salon.com] with the Fair Labor Standards Act. AOL used to have unpaid "community leaders" with some administrative powers, but they had to stop doing that, or pay them.

Wikia exists to monetize fancruft. The largest Wikia projects are related to Star Wars, DC Comics, Doom, Yu-Gi-Oh, Halo, etc. That doesn't lead to a search engine, unless your searches are mostly about Wookies.

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[saibot834]

I was not referring to any of the Wikis Wikia is hosting, but to this [wikia.com] site.

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[ColdWetDog]

Oh yes, this is different!

... a semantic Web could receive a user request for information about fishing, for example, and automatically narrow the results according to the user's individual needs rather than blanket the user with pages related to numerous aspects of fishing.

This web search will read your mind and then determine what you need to see (after a few particularly well targeted advertisements, of course).

I, for one, welcome our new automatically adjusting search overlords.

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[emilper]

Ehat is new is that this super-European search engine is announced the second time in two years, and we still have no glimpse of a search engine, not even the "alpha" version. Instead, we can see a list of important guys. I guess that now, having 120 million euro, it will take them two more years to design a logo, then in one more year the alpha version will be public, then France and Germany will start to bicker about who is going to hold the majority share etc. In the end, a retired British scientist will

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[emilper]

Disclaimer: my tax money are going to the EU research budget since at least 2002, so I have the right to be p****** when they are spent on corporate welfare. praised be Oh God [don't get "oh-another-fundamentalist-Christian" on me, please, it's a Pratchett reference], still four more month to spend working for "the man" before I get three years of real life experience, and with the 6 years wasted previously in research, I'll be, hopefully, able to cherry-pick a place of exile.

Theseus, by name, is doomed to fail

[erroneus]

It's got to be a fun name. "Yahoo!" was a fun name. "Google" is a fun name. "Eureka" would be a fun and successful name... unfortunately, the company's products suck... (but they are supposed to... it's a vacuum cleaner company.) They should pick a name like that. Theseus makes people think of "Thesaurus" and c'mon! Who wants to use that?

They rejected my name

[Anonymous Coward]

I suggested "communism." You know, the web, people working together, global village, all that loveliness. But apparently it has some negative conitations from before my time. Oh well.

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[meringuoid]

"Eureka" would be a fun and successful name... unfortunately, the company's products suck... (but they are supposed to... it's a vacuum cleaner company.) They should pick a name like that. Theseus makes people think of "Thesaurus"

So, you need to finely gauge your audience's exact level of knowledge of ancient Greek culture, then. They know 'Eureka', but think 'Theseus' is kind of like a dictionary. It's a tricky business, this...

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[Tribbin]

And google is no word that you have to look up?

wikipedia: "The name "Google" originated from a misspelling of "googol,"[16][17] which refers to 10100 (the number represented by a 1 followed by one-hundred zeros)."

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[erroneus]

Actually, it's both a misspelling of "googol" and also "goggle" which vaguely makes people think of eyes and looking for something so it works on at least two levels.

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[owlnation]

So, you need to finely gauge your audience's exact level of knowledge of ancient Greek culture, then. They know 'Eureka', but think 'Theseus' is kind of like a dictionary. It's a tricky business, this...

It is indeed a tricky business. In fact it's very, very obvious that no-one at Yahoo! had ever read Swift. While it is one of the most appropriate names for the executives of what the company has become, it's highly likely that that word didn't mean what they thought it meant.

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[Tribbin]

Theseus is a name that you can not make any jokes about. If you get a child and you know from birth; this is gonna be an ugly mother f*cker; then you give him a name like Theseus. That being said, Theseus might be doomed to fail, but at least they won't call it names.

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[UbuntuDupe]

Theseus makes people think of "Thesaurus" and c'mon! Who wants to use that?

Yeah good point. But then how would you go about finding a better word for the same thing?

(sorry, couldn't resist...)

Here come the flames

[JohnnyGTO]

Cause we all know Al Gore invented it!! :-)

Re:Here come the flames

[drooling-dog]

Cause we all know Al Gore invented it!! :-)

Well, he may not have invented the Internet, but he did champion the funding for it through Congress at a time when few people had even heard of it yet. And, in fact, he's never claimed anything more than that, despite Republican misinformation to the contrary...

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[Miseph]

What is this, fact day? Since when do we care about not making asses of ourselves claiming that somebody said something that they didn't just because a savvy political consultant wanted to minimize an opponents positive contributions to society while simultaneously making them look foolish and egotistical?

Oh, wait...

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[JohnnyGTO]

Actually this was a disinformation campaign by the Libertarian Party in one of many plans to make both parties look like asses. Then we realized they were capable of handling that chore all on their own!

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[Anonymous Coward]

And, of course, an American search engine would have black bars where anybody would expect tits and a *beep* over every f*beep*.

mixed feelings

[acvh]

on the one hand, a new window into what's out there is good.

on the other hand, will a gov't funded search engine "overlook" material said gov't doesn't want you to find?

on the gripping hand, "Tim Berners Lee vs Al Gore for the undisputed Inventor of the Internet!"

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[KDR_11k]

on the other hand, will a gov't funded search engine "overlook" material said gov't doesn't want you to find?

Not that govt. The only thing they might agree upon is that the nazis are evil but that's pretty much the limit.

Google sucks

[TheRealMindChild]

I have NO idea what Google has recently done, but their search now completely blows. They seemed to have trimmed their database, but FAR to aggressively. I have been noticing a lot of searches that should bring up thousands of pages, bring back maybe a couple, if any. Here is my most recent example (about a Thinstall variable):

http://www.google.com/search?q=DirectoryIsolation M ode [google.com] - returns 8 hits. The most useful link off the search is https://thinstall.com/help/index.php?attributes_in i2.htm [thinstall.com]. In itself,

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[tuomasr]

This actually isn't Googles fault. Check the servers robots.txt [thinstall.com] and you'll notice that it's disallowing all search engines from indexing the /help/ folder.

The Name

[Wellington Grey]

For those of you interested in the origins of the name [wikipedia.org], wikipedia refers to him as a 'founder-hero'.

-Grey [wellingtongrey.net]

Semantic web

[NoOneInParticular]

Apart from the standard response that a government created 'company' will never compete in the market place without a government created monopoly to back it (which cannot be done in this case), another great indicator that this project will be stillborn is the inclusion of the keyword 'semantic web'. Anything based on 'semantic web technology' does not work, will never work and is tackling the problem at the wrong end [shirky.com].

Ah well, just another few hundred millions down the drain. It's only tax money, includi

Are they THAT insecure

[gelfling]

That whatever is developed publically or privately in the US they have to develop a competitor? What about Galileo - the EU's competition to GPS? Yeah that's crashed and burned and it barely got off the ground. Andy why again? Seems that if you want to play along you should cooperate instead of wasting money trying to catch up with dubious projects of questionable benefit.

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[Ford Prefect]

That whatever is developed publically or privately in the US they have to develop a competitor? What about Galileo - the EU's competition to GPS? Yeah that's crashed and burned and it barely got off the ground. Andy why again?

Well, you probably haven't heard of most of the smaller, less glamorous projects funded by the European Commission. Some excerpts from descriptions of websites I've built for a couple of 'em, all in a particular subsection of industry:

"Innovative Integrated Energy Efficiency Solutions

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[gelfling]

And this is all good because it's not trying to reinvent something. Rail transport is uniquely European in the sense that rail in the US will never reach the levels it does in Western Europe. But another Google, specifically targeted at Google? Seems to be a waste of effort that could be better spent making some other web tool.

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[ai3]

They are not trying to build another Google, they're aiming at more "intelligent" search using the semantic web approach.

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[I'm Don Giovanni]

That "insecurity" seems not all that different from what you find in the OSS community. Whenever a commercial company comes up with a new product or feature, OSS community feels compelled to make OSS knock-offs shortly thereafter. Many slashdot comments regarding a new product/feature are along the lines of "We (i.e. OSS community) need to make an open source version of this".

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[drsquare]

If competition is bad, then Google should never have been invented, they should have cooperated with Yahoo instead...

What a complete waste of taxpayer money

[Sanity]

Why are European governments taking money from European taxpayers, and giving it to the stodgy big companies of yesteryear, supposedly to promote research in an area that is more than adequately served by the free market?

This is a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money, and a good demonstration of all that is wrong with beurocratic top-down European Union thinking (and I speak as a European).

If you really want to promote innovation, then stop wasting taxpayer money on this type of crap and lower corporate taxes, encouraging an environment where the fit will thrive and the unfit will die.

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[Poromenos1]

Somewhat out of topic, isn't it funny how the EXACT SAME post is instantly turned from Flamebait to Insightful if you add "I am ?" It's as if people outside the group can't offer insightful criticism, but only biased flames. (I am a slashdot moderator).

Damn HTML.

[Poromenos1]

Damn you, Slashdot. That should read "I am [a member of the group I'm criticising]".

It's not waste of tax payers money

[Iloinen Lohikrme]

This project is not waste of money nor is usually the normal R&D funds, benefits and grants given by the EU and member states. The money is intended to lower the risk on venturing into a totally new industry or on a new technology. Basically the idea is to put some public funding to encourage the private money to follow and get the ball running and as the ball keeps on rolling the society gets back it's initial funding via new firms, via new employment, via increased revenues and so on. These activities

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[Sanity]

The money is intended to lower the risk on venturing into a totally new industry or on a new technology.

That is what Venture Capital is for, and Venture Capital works just fine without forcefully taking money from taxpayers.

Your mentality seems to be that this money appears from nowhere, but it doesn't, for a government to give money to one person, that money must be taken from another. Taxation is the main thing stifling European businesses, not the lack of corporate welfare.

Re:It's not waste of tax payers money

[Iloinen Lohikrme]

No it's not. Venture Capital is not for basic research, it's for commercialization of already researched technology. If you don't put money for basic research, if you don't put it to high risk research, then you won't have any new technology that you can commercialize. And as I said, the US, Japanese, Chinese, Russians etc.. are already doing the same thing and thus it would be economical and industrial suicide to not do it.

As what comes to Europes economic growth and it's businesses, taxation or it's rate are not to be blamed. Yes, in some countries like German the tax laws are a mess, but all in all they are pretty workable. What does instead stifle businesses are work laws, or more on inflexibility in the job market: French and Germany come to a mind quick. If I would start from somewhere, it would changes to free job markets not stifle working government private sector partnership that does bring food on the table

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[Tim C]

If you really want to promote innovation, then stop wasting taxpayer money on this type of crap and lower corporate taxes, encouraging an environment where the fit will thrive and the unfit will die.

How does lowering corporate taxes do anything other than making it a little less likely that the unfit will die? (Or at least extending the amount of time they can hold out for)

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[Sanity]

How does lowering corporate taxes do anything other than making it a little less likely that the unfit will die? (Or at least extending the amount of time they can hold out for)?

It makes the fit base their companies elsewhere.

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[drsquare]

Lower corporate taxes increase the rewards for successful businesses. The higher the potential rewards, the bigger risks investors will take with startups. Therefore, there will be more 'fit' companies.

http://www.paulgraham.com/inequality.html [paulgraham.com]

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[cvd6262]

This is the same type of behavior that has the US lodging WTO complaints against Airbus on behalf of Boeing.

It is very unlikely that Airbus could have ever gotten off the ground without EU financial support. The WTO agreements lay out what is appropriate and inappropriate governmental intervention in trade. The US opinion is that the EU directly supporting Airbus (and probably this project as well - if it ever matures) is inappropriate.

OTOH, I have no idea how it differs from the the US giving public grants

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[KevinIsOwn]

This is hardly a purely corporate project. As another commenter has pointed out, there's 31 universities involved. This is the kind of project that really should be sponsored.

But there is plenty of innovation in Germany, and if the current tax structure and barriers to entry are what it takes to keep it from becoming like America... then keep them.

Next generation search technology

[the_kanzure]

Let the user become the crawler- and do not eliminate the search giants (just don't rely on them completely). Already I sort of operate like a (slow) crawler with my queues of links to read, bookmarks [heybryan.org] (be weary- big load) and indexing those very interesting or important pages, sharing related tidbits, etc. Just feels like the natural extension, though I am sure that many people will want to stick with traditional GUIs and "back/forward" habits. There is also some interesting discussion in ATLAS-L [wikia.com] re: future search infrastructures. So, in the spirit of promoting development in this area, linkage:

* Grub article [slashdot.org] (now defunct)- was distributed peer-to-peer crawler. (see also [archive.org])
* Boitho [boitho.com], another distributed crawler
* YaCy [yacy.net]- another peer-to-peer crawler
* How to build a web spider [slashdot.org]
* C++ web crawler lib [sourceforge.net]
* LibWWW [linpro.no] (perl)
* W3C's WebBot [w3.org]
* The Internet Archive's Heritrix [archive.org] crawler
* WebSPHINX- customizable crawler [cmu.edu]

Somehow, this is like an extension of surfraw [sf.net]. I imagine that soon enough we will start up an open source crawler-browsing hybrid software package, though have been surprised that nothing like it has popped up yet- it's (usually) the way of the programmer to make sure that he has the ability to do what the giants are doing. Maybe we have all been collectively blinded by graphical web browsers (IE, Firefox, Opera, etc.) and "click-click-click" thinkware?

knockoffs, and how to compete

[Anonymous Coward]

Of course, google didn't come from government subsidies, it came from a few bright guys who made a startup and made it succeed by their hard work and sweat.

The lesson Europe needs to learn is that the way to compete with the USA is not by trying to copy everything the USA does (google, GPS systems, operating systems, etc etc) but with government funding. The way to beat them is to innovate and make brand new things, made by the people who are passionate about doing something new and will pour their hearts and souls into it. That's why the Intel, Google, and Microsoft started in the USA, and why the European knockoffs all failed. You can't drive it from the top down: you have to let it grow from the bottom up. As soon as Europe learns this, there will be nothing to stop it.

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[Anonymous Coward]

You mean, Europe should develop own things?

Like MP3? Or the World Wide Web?

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[invalid_user]

Mod parent UPPPPPP!! Waaaaayyy uuuuuupppppp.

It is sad that today's kids are so advertised/brainwashed with the "achievements" of big businesses that scientist/engineers are looked upon with disdain. University enrollment in engineering and science reaches all time low. Everybody wants to be a banker or lawyer (or, if they have still some decency), or a doctor.

Something needs to be done to bring these kids back to doing useful things.

Indeed!

[godfra]

Although I believe we have our american friends to thank for the phrase "pwned".

The fathers of the French Revolution are proud...

[argStyopa]

...to see that simple, pure, unadulterated nationalism still thrives in the EU.

Certainly, it may have been transferred from old fashioned regionalisms, but from Galileo, to Qaero, to Theseus, these are all just continuing examples of the European Union seeing something that exists in the free market, is successful and, because they are American, they ipso facto need to be reproduced "by us".

Hilarious, and pathetic.

Re:The fathers of the French Revolution are proud.

[turing_m]

"are all just continuing examples of the European Union seeing something that exists in the free market, is successful and, because they are American, they ipso facto need to be reproduced "by us".

Hilarious, and pathetic."

It's actually called self reliance. It's a bit of a security risk trusting both your nation's operating systems and internet searches to foreign companies, especially when you can count on so many searches going straight through NSA. There's an espionage risk in doing so, even if only indu

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[TheLoneCabbage]

I should let this lie but I can't.

The entire point of interdependence is to prevent conflict. If we know we can't fight a war without them, we sure won't fight it with them.

The goal is to have fewer wars, and spend more time getting everyone's standard of living up to scratch.

Self reliance is the road to poverty.

I have no trouble with European tax payers financing doomed, and redundant projects that don't service any existing need. I would just hope that European's would have a problem with it.

Obligatory speculation

[Anc]

From the project's website:

At the current time, 31 research institutions, universities, and companies have joined the THESEUS program with planned projects. The industrial and public research partners are cooperating closely. They are coordinated by empolis GmbH. Also involved are internationally recognized experts of the Fraunhofer Society, the German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence (DFKI), the Research Center for Computer Science (FZI), the Ludwig Maximilian University (LMU) and Technical University (TU) in Munich, the TU Darmstadt, the University of Karlsruhe, the TU Dresden, and the University of Erlangen. The application scenarios are developed from the immediate research results and utilization interests of the leading partners German National Library, empolis, Lycos Europe, SAP, Siemens, as well as the following additional partners involved: Deutsche Thomson oHG, Intelligent Views, m2any, Moresophy, Ontoprise, Verband Deutscher Maschinen- und Anlagenbau e.V. (VDMA), and the Institute of Radio Technology.

The EU has funded a mostly academic research project but the post made it sound as if the direct goal was to create some kind of a competitor to Google. If this post was written differently, everyone here would be praising the EU for being farsighted and investing in science and research. But without some obligatory, flamboyant speculation it wouldn't look controversial enough to be posted on Slashdot, would it?

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[rtb61]

Slashdot is cross representational forum, don't blame every article or every comment on what slashdot is or is not. It is obvious that this article and a lot of the comments are driven by people with a vested interest in one particularly privacy invasive US corporation. In this case the research is very threatening to that company, as the results would be available to a wide range of companies to implement creating an enormous amount of competition and a significant drop in profitability for the current sea

Candide

[0x0000]

Completely fascinating that so many posters seem to think the corporate sector is already providing and is the only possible way to provide the "best of all possible [search] worlds" - completely laughable given how badly every single one of the existing ad-supported, hyper-commercialized options leeching away at our souls simply suck the bleeding ass of all things .com - a TLD that didn't even exist back when the Internet actually held useful information that could be easily found and used via a simple sub

Semantic Search Patents

[MPB007]

Its unlikely that Theseus or any truly semantic search company will operate in the US and some non-us countries as the scalable indexing, image feature extraction, mediation between ontologies and other foundation patents are owned by US based Jarg Corporation.

Who?

[nicolastheadept]

Which muppet decided to tag this socialist?