Sony Runs Walkman Off Sugar-Based Bio Battery 204
StonyandCher writes "Sony has created a battery that produces electricity by breaking down sugar. The bio cell, which measures 39 millimeters cubed, delivers 50mW — a world record for such a cell, according to the company. 'In the bio cell sugar-digesting enzymes at the anode extract electrons and hydrogen ions from the glucose. The hydrogen ions pass through a membrane separator to the cathode where they absorb oxygen from the air to produce water as a byproduct. The electrons flow around the circuit outside the device producing the electricity needed to power it.'"
And just why won't this work for.... (Score:3, Interesting)
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I want to eat candy all day, fuel all my devices with a jack that comes out of my ear, and never get fat.
Battery Product Name? (Score:5, Funny)
Sony refers to the sugar powered battery as a "Teenager".
Note: Purchasing teenagers is illegal in every country except Saudia Arabia and Nigeria.
Re:Battery Product Name? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, but it's been conclusively determined that you can't get any useful work out of a "Teenager" no matter how much sugar you feet it.
Now if you could harness the power that comes from the laser-like glare of contempt they constantly produce, you could probably power a small town...
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Besides that though, the article makes no mention of how much power the battery actually holds, i.e. who cares if it can put out 50mW if it can only do it for two minutes.
Math double-check (Score:2)
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Close, but no cigar. A bar that's 3.9cm x 1cm x 1cm is only 3.9cm^3. On the other hand, a bar that's 5cm x 3.9cm x 2cm is 39cm^3, which is still a nice-size battery for a laptop (assuming the article meant 39(mm^3) rather than (39mm)^3), if it can last as long as is expected of laptop batteries.
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But how much of the 39mm^3 volume is required for the fuel, and how would the size of the components change as you scale up the output? Maybe it's possible to build a 50W device that is not tremendously bigger than this one.
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It can not hold a charge or be recharged... (Score:2)
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As this would be an electrical car, there won't be 180F under the hood (Unless there is a REAL problem with global warming)
And when we go to the 'energy station' of the future: Why won't have a sugar & enzymes that we can drop in and replace?
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Strike Three: I can see the new Warranty Info on laptops powered in this manner. Damages caused by clogged condensate lines are not covered under your warranty."
Or use the water to cool the laptop...As the water evaporates, it is removed and voila no waste. But unfortunatly, I see no counter to your warrenty info argument. Something goes wrong, things get fried.
But its really a moot
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Consistency? (Score:2, Interesting)
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I wish you the very best of luck next time you attempt to board a plane. You'll need it.
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I propose this become the new standard in battery (Score:2, Funny)
This just in HighDefinitionBatteries have been adopted by the biggest battery studios SugarRay is now dead.
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Screw that (Score:5, Funny)
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Argh now I've fallen too.
Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, great ... (Score:5, Funny)
After months an all-sugar diet, your Walkman becomes obese and sluggish, then you need to give it regular insulin injections, etc.
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Seriously, they would have to serial couple so many of these that it would indeed be an obese device.
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Big deal (Score:4, Funny)
ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (Score:5, Insightful)
It'll work!!! (Score:2)
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References for parent (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/03/health/
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Counting calories, not people (Score:2)
Remember OP's original contention is that using sugar like this decreases food for the poor. We're looking for total calories here, not demographics of calorie-consumers. The article referenced by GP does demonstrate that there are enough calories to go around.
Food subsidies (Score:5, Insightful)
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I'm sure they would have loved to buy cheaper food from other countries as you say, but that food was being exported to the more affluent countries as well.
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Food subsidies are *EVIL* (Score:4, Interesting)
I'll just point out that the subsidised food actually drives the poor farmers out of business and reduces the amount of land that is then dedicated to farming within the poorest regions. The really nasty problems start when there's a subsequent drought and the remaining productive land doesn't produce enough food to feed the population. The result is famine, starvation, death and a greater need for aid.
Another problem appears when you have thousands of disaffected unemployed ex farmers just sitting around. Ideal supply of soldiers for anyone who decides they want to rebel against their desperate situation. Which obviously makes everything an order of magnitude worse. It's no coincidence that areas which receive lots of aid are areas which have problems with ongoing conflicts. It's a self reinforcing cycle.
Really, food subsidies are a form of economic warfare which attacks the poorest, most wretched, most defenceless people on the planet...
EU and US farmers are directly the cause of millions of deaths in the 3rd world.
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One of the major problems in many of those countries is they now have more people then they can actually feed from local agriculture (IE. over the local carrying capacity). This over population tends to diminish the local carrying capacity over time and results in things like desertification and ecological stress. If for some reason the food stops coming (economic instability,
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You are right biofuels have various downsides [bbc.co.uk] but to get a realistic calculation the things get rather complicated. You have to consider which fuel/substances you are replacing, which crop you grow, how you grow it etc.
Depending what kind of battery you replace (with cadmium, mercury, or lead?). I think it would be good to have a sugar-driven alternative.
Right now the accelerated demand for biofuels in the US (among other factors) is ruining the Gulf of Mexico [noaa.gov]. This clearly shows a downside of biofuels
The New Overlords (Score:4, Funny)
We'll go out not with a bang, or a whimper, but a "shuffle".
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We'll go out not with a bang, or a whimper, but a "shuffle".
Are these in use yet? (Score:5, Interesting)
I know they're planning to have all sorts of implantable blood-powered sensors that send radio signals out to monitors. So, for one example, a diabetic can have a continuous blood glucose meter implanted in their wrist, which is powered by something like this, and sends wireless signals to a wrist-watch that gives continuous readings of blood glucose, bypassing all the finger-pricking blood tests. And the watch could then store that data and send it to the computer, where they can track it, graph it, correlate it with diet and exercise, recognize trends in the disease, etc. I'm sure there are endless cool potential medical uses. But I've been hearing about this for many years now, and while I'm sure I could Google up how it's going with a few hours of reading, would some knowledgeable Slashdot reader like to just cut to the chase and tell us where things stand?
AAAAH!! VAMPIRE! (Score:2)
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Considering... (Score:5, Informative)
These batteries may have the potential to be good, but the impact on people, especially in the third world where food prices are a large obstacle has the potential to be nasty.
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And where do hydrogen cells get the hydrogen? (Score:5, Informative)
Supposing that the biogenesis theory of fossil fuel production is correct (the classic theory, that says it comes from living things over long periods and as such is not renewable) we are going to run out of it at some point. Unless you think we should all go live in the wilderness without power (in which case I say you first) we need to find alternate energy sources. Biofuels may well be a good one.
Hydrogen isn't a solution by itself. We may start using it as a more efficient way to store and transport power, but to get it we need to get energy from somewhere.
Unless we are going to take the Luddite answer of saying we need to stop using technology that requires power (which will lead to millions, perhaps billions of deaths as we cannot sustain the current population on preindustrial means) then we have to look for alternate power sources. We can't stick our heads in the sand and just whine about problems. Any energy source will come with problems, that's just life. The problems have to be weighed against the benefits.
Also please remember: Biofuels are in their infancy. Maybe we should keep investing and working, see if we can't figure out ways to make it more efficient. Plants are pretty efficient little solar cells, when you get down to it, we just need to work on getting ones that we can then efficiently turn in to other forms of energy.
That's not possible (Score:2)
Sorry, but the energy for hydrogen has to come form somewhere and it is a lossy process. Any conversion of forms of energy is at best a 1:1 proposition. You can never gain any. In reality, they are essentially always lossy to some degree.
Remember:
In any process, the tota
So... (Score:2)
Please put all "That's pretty sweet" jokes here. (Score:5, Funny)
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1600 Pensylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20500
ask for "W"
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1060 W. Addison, Chicago, IL.
Shoulder-mounted RPG, remote-controlled bomb, flame thrower, or M-16, your choice.
sugar? we don't get sugar here... (Score:4, Funny)
also, there's an Obvious Simpsons Reference here which I am too lazy to make.
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Bioreactor-cure for Diabetes? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Imagine the implications for prosthetics, pacemakers and hearing aids; throw in your double-whammy insulin pump and blood glucose regulator/burner while you're at it. All that's needed are some man-made materials that are
Imagining the potetial (Score:3, Interesting)
Turning your garbage, old moldy food, etc into your households electricity needs!
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Turning your garbage, old moldy food, etc into your households electricity needs!
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Oh. Ha! Ha! I joke, of course.
Homer's theory of Sugar Power (Score:3, Funny)
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Everything I needed to know I learned in 2nd grade (Score:2)
Medical uses (Score:3, Interesting)
Sony robot name: (Score:2)
(Technical) Art Imitates Life (Score:3, Insightful)
First a corn shortage, now sugar (Score:3, Funny)
They need to concentrate on getting power out of byproducts like veggie diesel. Now gimme a walkman with a small diesel engine running a small generator and then I'll be happy. Granted i'll have to stand in one place because it'll be too heavy to carry. And my hands will stink after fueling. At least grease doesn't explode to readily.
Hey, here's a question. Would a Vegan drive a volkswagon that runs off of animal fat grease? What a delimma... it's already dead, and it would be 'green.' What about a car that runs off of roadkill. Ok, this is going to be modd'd offtopic
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Really, they're substitutes anyway, so a high price for one leads to a higher price for the other...
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The price of corn went up thanks to all these 'green' autos. Now the price of sugar is going to go up because of personal audio devices!
I'm not sure where you got that idea about corn prices [cbot.com]. It would actually be nice if the demand for corn DID go up so we could end some of the subsidies here in the US.
Currently the only way it's at all profitable to grow corn is if the USDA pays you [usda.gov] to do it. The USDA also pays farmers NOT to grow corn [wikipedia.org] because we produce too much of it.
We stopped growing corn on our beef farm in the early 90's since it was cheaper to just buy corn and make only hay.
Anyway, back on topic, I think the major benefi
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i would say no. that hamburger is already dead, and they don't eat that. =P
(btw, i like ordering veal when eating w/ vegans......mmmmm torture is tasty =P )
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Thanks, Sony, you bastards. (Score:2)
Mr. Fusion (Score:2)
It really is like the Mr. Fusion! Garbage powered devices!
And for the people saying this will lead to food shortage
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High Fructose Corn Syrup (Score:3, Funny)
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The perfect biofuel? (Score:2)
But what's the efficiency of sugar? I found in a diet site the following data:
So sugar is very inefficiency compared to other fuels. But at least it's a start. In any case, this rem
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1. Work against nature, try to do things 'better'.
2. Find out that it doesn't work.
3. Eventually do things the way nature intended.
Maybe that's humanity's destiny: to realize that we were wrong all along.
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But what's the efficiency of sugar? I found in a diet site the following data:
So sugar is very inefficiency compared to other fuels.
Kilocalories/gram is not a measure of efficiency, it is a measure of energy density.
As a fuel source, sugar is the most efficient material you've listed. Production of the other three requires large amounts of energy input, often in the form of sugar.
Shame (Score:2)
Hey I know how to solve the battery (hic) recycling pro (hic) problem. Can I have your (hic) dead batteries?
Walkman? (Score:2)
When they get around to inventing Mr. Fusion, will they demonstrate how it can power a vaccuum tube radio?
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