The Kremlin Tightens Its Grip on the Internet 280
reporter writes "According to a report just published by "The Washington Post", the percentage of Russian adults having access to the Internet has risen from 8% in 2002 to 25% in 2007. This growth has attracted the attention of the Kremlin. Its allies are creating pro-Kremlin web sites and are purchasing web sites known for high-quality independent journalism. Pro-Kremlin bloggers have used their skills to bury news about anti-Kremlin demonstrations: at Russian news portals, web links to news about pro-Kremlin rallies consistently rank higher than web links to news about anti-Kremlin demonstrations.
The most disturbing development is that the Kremlin intends to develop a Russian Internet which is separate from the global Internet. Russian officials are studying the techniques that the Chinese use to censor the Internet."
Spooky (Score:5, Funny)
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You must be American. I got a "Please to move along, for nothing here sees YOU!"
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FUD from the most oppressive, government sponsored terrorist, warmongering country on the entire planet!
An article from one (Mooney-funded) newspaper amounts to government sponsored propaganda? Wow, man!
did you know that your income tax is against your constitution and was never ratified?
From Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:
Some tax protesters may cite what they believe is evidence that the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution (removing any apportionment requirement for income taxes) was never "properly ratified" or that it was properly ratified but does not permit the taxation of individual income, or particular forms of individual income. One argument is based on the contention that the legislatures of various states passed bills of ratification with different capitalization, spelling of words, or punctuation marks (e.g., semi-colons instead of commas) (see, e.g., United States v. Thomas[1]). Another argument made by some tax protesters is that because the United States Congress did not pass an official proclamation recognizing Ohio's year 1803 admission to statehood until 1953 (see Ohio Constitution), Ohio was not a state until 1953 and therefore the Sixteenth Amendment was not properly ratified (see Ivey v. United States[2] and Knoblauch v. Commissioner[3] in the referenced article). These arguments have been universally rejected by the courts.
Apparently, the courts, whose job it is to interpret the Constitution, disagree with you.
remember waco don't let it be lost in history
I remember Waco. What about it? I'll leave it to the Exile [exile.ru], a Moscow based English Language alternative newspaper, to handle this one:
Waco had a compound full of armed cultist morons who believed that David Koresh, a failed Sting-a-be rock star, was the Savior. Ruby Ridge was the site of some armed white racist pig and his shit-for-brains wife and kids. Can anyone give us one reason why they shouldn't have been shot, gassed and burned with white phosphorus? Millions, literally millions of up-in-arms Middle Americans saw Janet Reno's mercy killing of these rabid apes as a form of totalitarianism. Folks, it's time to come clean here: Janet Reno should have killed many, many thousands more of them. As it was, we appreciate the gene-pool cleansing, even if it was just a gesture.
Yes, real fascist stuff here!
What are FREE SPEECH zones?
Free Speech Zones are an 'innovation' in the American political system that allow an organization that books a venue for some political co
Not surprising (Score:5, Insightful)
All the other media, such as newpapers and TV, are firmly pro-Kremlin. Independant journalists are imprisoned or assasinated by - of course - nameless 'enemies of the state'.
It's a shame that the promise of democracy there turned out to be yet another 'false dawn'.
Europe will do nothing, since the bear's paw is firmly on their throat, i.e. the oil and gas supply...
Next up, Google et al 'voluntary censorship'?
Russian Police Psychiatry: Scarier than Halloween (Score:5, Informative)
The "Washington Post" recently published a chilling story [washingtonpost.com] about "police psychiatry" in Russia. Powerful thugs in the government (including the police) and in commercial businesses bribe judges and doctors to declare that a mentally healthy person is mentally incompetent. Then, the "justice" (in a very loose sense of the word) system will imprison the victim in a mental institution. There, the doctors proceed to "treat" the victim with beatings and injections of psychotic substances.
The article by the "Washington Post" mentions that Larissa Arap, a human-rights activist, was one such victim. She had written a damning article about the horrible state of psychiatric wards in Russia. In response, psychiatrists and judges -- under orders from the Kremlin -- imprisoned her in a psychiatric ward. She was subjected to 6 weeks of beatings and injections with an unknown psychotic substance. After numerous letters pleading for her life from Gary Kasparov and other human-rights activits, the Kremlin finally released her.
What is most disturbing about police psychiatry is that it is practiced not only by the Kremlin. This "tool" is also used by ordinary Russians who want to rid themselves of people whom they dislike.
Slashdot should create a new topic category for Russia. It deserves its own topic category for story submissions; the horrors in today's Russia should be an active topic of discussion (condemnation?) for any Westerner who has an iota of compassion. This article by the "Washington Post" should scare any Westerner.
Exactly like the good old days... (Score:2)
In Soviet R
from bad days to better days (Score:4, Interesting)
As somebody who doesn't want to see the world return to its pre-ColdWar state of European hegemony, I'll say that I'm glad that Russians are fostering a robust sense of nationalism, because historically they've been ruled over by outsiders and foreign-imposed govts. Even if you look at the Bolshevik Revolution that brought Russia under communist rule, it was backed by Western European powers trying to undermine the Czar. That drunken Boris Yeltsin was likewise a Manchurian Candidate who used to give away all kinds of concessions on international treaties, while using his control over the media to suppress the opposition, but he wasn't criticized because the West was benefitting from his undemocratic rule. Those aren't good precedents, and I think the Russians need to develop some natural immunity against foreign manipulation.
While some in the West cry for "more democracy in Russia," one can also note how there was a cry to "bring democracy to Iraq" -- and look what that caused. Similarly, while some will cry that Russia "must share oil" with the world, there was the similar "liberate vital oil supplies from Saddam's tyranny."
It's good to see the Russians regaining their natural strength after having it sapped by carpetbaggers from abroad. It's their country, and I like the fact that Russians can produce politicians who are willing to stand up for their nation, even if it comes to going nose-to-nose with Westerners who think the world is their oyster.
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The rights of an individual and in turn the collective rights of all individuals can be shared across all humanity. Nationalism has been and always will be seen as destructive. It is nothing but self serving camouflage for the failings of a society which the power 'elite'(those crazy, fucked up, psychopaths) hide behind to gain and maintain control over the ignorant masses. That is the real threat and power of the Internet, turning the ignorant masses into the informed masses and the power elite into convicts.
Not that democracies are always working to the benefit of individuals. In fact at the moment, there is a clear cut example of the abuse of the collective rights of individuals by the current US administration working in conjunction with major corporations and mass media, all based upon typical nationalistic lies. So no society is immune from the threat imposed by autocratic sociopaths, screaming nationalistic propaganda whilst they line their own pockets with the profits and blood of their fellow country men. A free and open internet is the best way by which to put those lies to a final well deserved end and put some of the worst criminal behind bars.
All, no thanks to those money grubbing slimy executives hiding behind their corporate façades, like the googlites, the microsofties and the yahoos et al corporate profits over the future of humanity.
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Calling for individualism should not be done as a pretext, like the call
Re:from bad days to better days (Score:4, Insightful)
Tell you what. I'm Russian, born here in Russia and living here since birth. And I consider myself a European, and so do the majority of people who I know. The acceptance of Western ideals such as individual freedom and liberalism varies, naturally, but it's nowhere near unanimous acceptance or rejection. Our present-day "patriotic" nationalists are mostly braindead "Greater Russia" style, bent on restoring the border to the original USSR one, introducing Eastern Orthodoxy as a state religion, and advocating historical revisionism bordering on Holocaust denial (ever heard of Holodomor, Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, or the Katyn massacre? these people did, and they claim all those historical events for lies and "Western plots to undermine Russia"). Our politicians, including the President, breed nationalistic fervor where it suits them, but are otherwise busy splitting the country riches between themselves. Meanwhile, Russia is steadily falling in the various politic/economic freedom and corruption indices ever since Putin came to power, at the same time that number of government bureaucrats grows.
So, do tell, why do you feel you have any more right to teach us than the West? At least they have the examples of their own countries, which are faring rather well last I checked, to back their words. But I don't think there's anything Asian countries have worth learning in political sphere, judging from how the ones that have most freedom and strongest economies have heavily copied the West before (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan...). And no, thank you, I do not want my country to be like the PRC or Burma.
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Come on, Russian strength have been sapped by their Communist leaders much more than by foreign "carpetbaggers". The only really huge recent "sapping" of foreign origin was the German Nazi invasion in WW2. The rest -- especially since then -- the hundreds of thousands dead in labor camps, the near destruction of their economy caused by inefficient economic policies, their environmental and dem
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As for torture in prisons, maybe they're using the Bush administration definition of what is torture and what is not.
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Are you saying that without the Iran stuff, this would be ok? Or that Russia is being unfairly criticized?
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Now is it the true motivation that Russia has criticized US foreign policy or that Russia has been in the news?
Somehow I doubt a bunch of people posting on Slashdot could accurately assess that.
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If Fox News reported this, you might have a case. But this is Slashdot.
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Great! (Score:3)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacktivism [wikipedia.org]
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Hardly so simple (Score:5, Informative)
A couple of things.
Russia is not so simple. First, Putin is enormously popular in Russia. He has put food in the belly of the Russian people, their standards of living are higher, and so on. In the mind of the average Russian, over there, someone supporting the likes of a pure democracy movement are the crooks and cronies from the Yeltsin era. Those crooks and cronies, in turn, are the very former communist leaders that they rebelled against to begin with!
Secondly, yes, there is Fox News and they tend to feature columnists that are sympathetic to the right wing of American politics. Guess what, that's half the country dude. The only reason Republicans are in trouble now, well, there are a lot, is because of the skyrocketing cost of energy and the growing realization that the Republicans in Washington aren't so Republican after all. If you think the likes of Hannity give Bush a blank check, you'd be dead wrong. Hannity -routinely- condemns Bush on immigration and was one of the key players to stop the Bush immigration reform bill dead in its tracks. Similarly, just wait until Bush flip flops on the ridiculous law of the sea treaty or tries to enact some sort of a carbon tax. He'd be dead meat.
Finally, the key difference between the USA and other places around the world that the left is so fond of comparing us too, is that, the left wing is allowed to spout its own opinions. If MoveOn was in Russia or China, they most certainly not exist. But then, neither would the NRA.
Re:Hardly so simple (Score:5, Insightful)
But those figures are for what we might call "hard" authoritarianism. There's "soft" authoritarianism that's another large block in the US: the sort that enforces "conventional wisdom" across our corporate media. It's not the stuff that FOX is the outlier on that's the key that locks the American mind, but the stuff that FOX/ABC/NBC/CBS/Time/Newsweek and often even the NY Times share as common stances and assumptions. That's what took us into the Iraq disaster in such stupid form, not that "Bush lied us into it." It's a kinder, gentler authoritarianism - that lets us believe we're a "free" people while jailing a larger proportion of our population than any other industrialized country, and ignoring the clear majority will in favor of universal health care, large-scale restructuring of energy use, and the end of corporate domination of our politics.
I'm sure Putin would agree that Russia should only have it so good.
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I really don't think you can honestly categorize the hard core Bushie supporter as someone who is authoritarian, when, Bush's hallmark has been tax cuts, environmental deregulation, and a solid endorsement of the individual right to keep and bear arms. By contrast, ALL of Hillary's supporters demand higher taxes on everyone but themselves, a stron
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Your portion of the right wing, perhaps. The right wing in the USA is split between the libertarians (those who want no federal government) and the neoconservatives (people like Cheney and Rudy). While the libertarians want a lower federal budget and less government, the neocons want more government power, in the
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Plain and simple.
If you were really interested in freedom, you would support those who would curtail federal power significantly. Anything else, is just more b.s.
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All of which, are issues, that you want to solve in authoritarian ways. You want to have a big government socialized medicine, federal mandates to control what and how we use energy, and then, to top it all off, you want to undermine the power of free enterprise and private investment. So, other than, trying to regulate everything from food to
Your crude use of the word 'authoritarian' amuses. (Score:2)
Do you really not see any difference? (Score:2)
Re:Your crude use of the word 'authoritarian' amus (Score:2)
Spoken like a true religious fanatic.
Re:Hardly so simple (Score:4, Insightful)
Post-soviet but pre-Putin Russia has been for a while a completely deregulated country. Yet it was not a free country because the power was held by people with big capital or mafiosi (not exclusive or) and the ordinary citizen stood not a chance against them.
Since the late eighties in Italy we have a wave of privatization of formerly state owned infrastructure. Electricity, gas, telephony, university, railways, highways. Nothing was done to ensure competition. Ask my fellow countrymen: bills are up, service sucks more (luckily with some exceptions). Theoretically we are in a less authoritarian state, in practice authority has just shifted hands - away from the control of the citizen.
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It's a kinder, gentler authoritarianism - that lets us believe we're a "free" people while jailing a larger proportion of our population than any other industrialized country, and ignoring the clear majority will in favor of universal health care, large-scale restructuring of energy use, and the end of corporate domination of our politics.
I agree with your whole post. However, I think this robs the term "authoritarianism" of its meaning. The percentage of people in prison? Okay, that's a good indicator. But controlling people's minds through control of information, and placating people with the illusion of democracy is practically the definition of what authoritarianism isn't.
You need to come up with another term. As a Marxist, I'd use the term "bourgeois liberal democracy", which implies every thing you said, but I don't expect that one to
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I really don't care what it says to you, because you are just a left wing religious fanatic.
FoxNews is fair and balanced because on the whole, the country is right leaning, whereas, the rest of the media is a bunch of left wing shills like yourself. And yes, I listen to NPR and the BBC. The BBC is admittedly leftist, by its own owners.
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While mostly correct, this is not the whole truth. Most notably, the e
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Good thing that can't happen here! (Score:5, Insightful)
August 7th, 2007
Freedom Next Time: Filmmaker & Journalist John Pilger on Propaganda, the Press, Censorship and Resisting the American Empire
John Pilger: One of my favorite stories about the Cold War concerns a group of Russian journalists who were touring the United States. On the final day of their visit, they were asked by the host for their impressions. "I have to tell you," said the spokesman, "that we were astonished to find after reading all the newspapers and watching TV day after day that all the opinions on all the vital issues are the same. To get that result in our country we send journalists to the gulag. We even tear out their fingernails. Here you don't have to do any of that. What is the secret?"
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I think you can (Score:2)
You can't control what people use their PCs for, or what they send over their own private networks. But you can tightly control the information moving over the public network. I think that this could be done by requiring all packets to be digitally signed by the originator. Routers at your ISP and on the backbone would reject packets lacking
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Not everyone has the skills to get around censorship . And those who do will keep quit , to ensure they are not detected
All they need , after all , if for the majority of people to believe the lies . Those lies can be used to make that majority of people turn against those who wish to tell the truth.
Now , this isn't just the case for Russia of China
Total control over information is very u
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The more things change, the more they stay the same
Authoritarian rule does not require total censorship - it just requires that most people be willing to tolerate it and be a little afraid of the consequences of opposing it. The Internet has the potential to be the ultimate tool of authoritarian rule because you can log communication and networks of friends, research a person's thinking and map out who the opinion-shapers are within any troublesome clique. A small percentage may be knowledgeable enough t
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Yes, and it's similar to the US. In the US the political party who has the most control over the media wins the election (I'm mainly thinking of advertising dollars here... and you can't even run if you can't afford to canvas for a large amount of signatures supporting your candidacy). Similar to Russia, but the brute force issues involved in representing your people are more financial in the US than outright phy
But we must be tolerant (Score:4, Interesting)
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Of people's attempts to silence others.
If we do not defend the rights of others, we will soon have none ourselves. People without freedom can be expended at will by their leaders to remove your own freedom. It is good to condem oppression wherever you see it. Trade, laws, war and peace must follow morals. If you can change your morals to accommodate other things, you have no morals.
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Wow. What kind of kool-aid did you get? I got a pack of Cheneyberry sitting in my cupboard, but I haven't tried it yet. Is the new FoxCherryBlast formula as good as the old?
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http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE130692005 [amnesty.org]
Perhaps you'd like to go over and try your luck ? One would hope this would make you come to your senses, but I fear that would be slightly too much to ask.
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They do not differ in interpretation of canon law, just in who is the judge and what organizational decisions have been made.
Same for anglican chu
Adopting new tactics (Score:2, Insightful)
Pro-Kremlin bloggers have used their skills to bury news about anti-Kremlin demonstrations: at Russian news portals, web links to news about pro-Kremlin rallies consistently rank higher than web links to news about anti-Kremlin demonstrations.
So, the Russians are adopting the tactics of the Bush administration. It's a sad day for Russia.
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It's about freedom. (Score:3, Informative)
If Bush were censoring anything on the internet, you retards wouldn't be posting this now. Pull your head out of your ass.
That's good advice for individuals but bad for society, and you are woefully unaware of your fading rights. There are 750,000 proscribed people in the US who have been labled "terrorist" without trial. They will be kept from traveling, employment and other things vital to their well being. Economic assassination is almost as effective as the other kind. Mass roundups that follow
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So how does the US arming of Iraq with chemical weapons [wikipedia.org] fit with your world? Surely that's as bad as "arming non-Demoractic (sic) states), no?
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In other news... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Wow (Score:3, Funny)
Surprised? (Score:5, Insightful)
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That being said, I doubt Kremlin would control Interner media, at least if they have a little bit of brain that is. The reason being, it is quite importnat to give those liberals like myslef some breathing space and keep them off the streets and demonstrations.
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The BBC is a state owned broadcaster (Score:2, Insightful)
Says it all really.
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Obligatory (Score:3, Funny)
No, wait...
Russia already has a second world... (Score:5, Insightful)
So even if the kremlin managed to create their own country internet there would still be the russian mafias world wide internet.
Re:Russia already has a second world... (Score:5, Funny)
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Pals (Score:2)
This will increase the brain drain (Score:4, Interesting)
Russians in the West Remain Russians (Score:3, Informative)
She is a member of the Rodina block [washingtonpost.com], which was a political party created by the Kremlin and which was eventually merged into a larger party called "Just Russia". The leader of the Rodina block has advocated restricting the operation of human-rights non-governmental org [washingtonpost.com]
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Anyone out there needs a C++ developer who can cite the ISO C++ Standard by heart, with additional strong knowledge of .NET (MCSD); a decent assortment of other ski
In other news... (Score:2)
It doesn't hurt that Chinese telecom ZTE [wikipedia.org] is moving product into Russia as fast as possible, either.
sadly enough, defense hawks are stroking boners (Score:3, Insightful)
So much of the Cold War was snake-oil salesmen from the defense industry peddling their wares and enriching themselves and the generals while also increasing the likelihood that these weapons would be used in a shooting war.
What's the easiest way to cut down a mighty oak tree? When you can pinch the life out of it between two fingers. In other words, just after it's sprouted. But we seem to like the idea of planting the tree in the first place, letting it get plenty of sun and rain, wait until it's grown into an imposing presence, then we get to whip out the chainsaws and dynamite. If Shel Silverstein ever wrote about this, he'd have to call it "the Stupid Tree."
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I guess the tree is a metaphor for the internet in this case?
Then
Re:sadly enough, defense hawks are stroking boners (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm just saying that a strong national defense is not just about guns and bombs, it's about diplomacy. Like the doctors say, the best medicine is prevention. Eat right and exercise, you've already won the battle. If the doc is cracking your chest open for a quadruple bypass, you could call that a shooting war and it's a sign you already lost. (complicated metaphor, I know.) But like Big Pharma and Medicine, the defense industry isn't about prevention or curing the disease, they're about making money off of treating the symptoms. The hospital is just as happy you had a heart attack, more moolah for them.
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That is not the case. They are willing to pay exhorbinently for soldiers, so long as the private sector provides them. Remember, this is the same group that thinks the private sector can always do better, cheaper. So, when mercinaries need to make $300,000/year to be in Iraq, it must be fair. But pay more under a socialist system? Then what are we defending our country from?
An intelligent move (Score:3, Insightful)
Spam (Score:2)
Can't happen here (Score:2)
What CNN tells about anti-Bush demonstrations... (Score:5, Interesting)
* Entire school system shuts for superbug scrub
* Train kills 5-year-old boy
* Genarlow Wilson freed | 'We want him home' Video
* Indian tribes expel members
* Mobile home dwellers ride out fire, wait for help
* Fatal fetus theft leads to death sentence
* Mob considered whacking Guiliani Video
* Feds: Look out for shoe-bombers
* Commander loses job amid nuclear sub probe
> Pro-Kremlin bloggers have used their skills to bury news about anti-Kremlin demonstrations:
ahhh, if some CNN wievers want to learn about recent anti-bush demonstrations, tune into BBC [bbc.co.uk].
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The free world is at risk (Score:4, Insightful)
Russian Internet (Score:2)
The most disturbing development is that the Kremlin intends to develop a Russian Internet which is separate from the global Internet
It's worth noting that a good bit of the spam and plain criminal activity on the internet comes out of Russia--the Storm botnet is largely thought to be owned and operated by the Russian mafia. The RIAA would be happy to have mp3.com inaccessible from Western markets.
A segregation of the internet into World portions and Russian portions might have a short-term benefit as t
Any surprise here ? (Score:3, Informative)
all countries act as per their cultures towards internet.
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Really? If with 'we' you mean the collective mind of Slashdot, I have to disagree. The collective mind of Slashdot only knows the cliches about every country except the USA and perhaps Great Brittain. I'm glad I'm not assimilated yet.
That is about as accurate as
As opposed to US "freedom"... (Score:2)
Eight or nine years ago, a columnist in the Chicago Trib counted just columnists, and in papers with overt agendas (such as Mother Jones, or the Wall Street Journal), and foudn something like 57 right-wingers, half a dozen or so "moderates', and less than that of liberals (and Molly Ivins is now gone).
So why *shouldn'
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On the contrary, there are many political blogs among top bloggers at the cyrillic sector of Livejournal. It interesting that the most dominant and most vocal part of political blogs are not those that advocate Western style democracy and human rights, but on the contrary are criticizing Putin from extremely right-wing position.
I am looking at blogs.yandex.ru, 5 most cited blog entries, and among number 2 [livejournal.com] (rus) is defending arrested leader of "Red blitzkrieg" by the blogger well known for his sympathies for all things Soviet.
number 3 [livejournal.com] (rus) is also on the same subject by the relatively well known lady journalist of the similar political views.
The highest ranking blog among the official politicians [livejournal.com] (#22 in the all-list) belongs to a politician who was in political leadership of Latvia at the time of breakup from the former Soviet Union and spent a lot of time undermining efforts of Latvians to gain independence. Right wing.
Blogger number 19 [livejournal.com] is a Nazi sympathizer with Russian pseudo-pagan twist.
The lefties are presented much less among top bloggers.
I am saying this because among quite diverse opposition to Putin right-wingers opposing Western style democracy and human-rights issues are dominating. If they would come to power, the situation would be even worse than at Putin's time from the Western point of view.
In the West Putin's seems like an autocrat, anti-democrat, but to THAT opposition he is a Western poodle. The most viable alternative to Putin at the hypothetical condition of free election (free from government manipulation as well as foreign financial and all other kinds of support to the "liberal" opposition) would be not much famed recently chessmaster, but people like Rogozin (Russian equivalent of Le Pen or Heider).
This might be irrelevant to the topic of censorship, but it is quite relevant to Russians.
Now Google will "Do No Evil" over there, too? (Score:2)
I guess "no evil" has a pretty flexible definition.
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Yeah, I know. Go ahead and mod me redundant or overrated. Just remember, in Soviet Russia, overrated Soviet-Russia-meme posters mod *YOU*!
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From TFA: "Naturally, in this sphere, as in other spheres, we should be thinking about adhering to Russian laws, about making sure that child pornography is not distributed, that financial crimes are not committed," he continued. "But that is a task for the law enforcement agencies. Total control and the work of the law enforcement agencies are two different things."
But then there's the Russian Business Network