Transform Cellphones Into a CCTV Swarm 106
holy_calamity writes "Swiss researchers have developed java software that has bluetooth-capable camera phones form a distributed camera network. Each phone shares information on visual events with its neighbours and can work out the spatial position of phones around it (pdf). The software will become open source sometime next year, and the creators say it could be used to make a quick and dirty surveillance system. 'The phones currently use the average speed people walk to guess the distances between themselves, based on how long people take to move from one phone's view to another's. In testing, the system determined the distances between each phone with about 95% accuracy. They were placed 4 metres apart, making it accurate to about 20 centimetres. In future, recording the speed at which objects pass by would make more accurate judgments possible.'"
scary (Score:1)
So... (Score:3, Funny)
Open source surveillance (Score:2, Interesting)
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Downmodding posts is like destroying bugs; it is an admission of guilt.
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Think of a peaceful protest group using, an admittedly far superior, form of this to camera swarm the police. The perpetrator of any action, a policeman clubbing an innocent citizen for instance, might question their actions if they knew they were surrounded by this swarm.
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SOMEBODY MOD THIS MAN UP (Score:1)
Other possible results (Score:2)
Not because you might get "clubbed", but more because you're potentially just one embarassing step/move from being the next "Youtube star".
Dig your nose in public in an unusual way or something worse, and maybe someone might sync it to music, add some sound effects. Next thing you know, you get a whole discussion on wikipedia on whether you're notable or not, w
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Does the fact that this will be an open-source application compensate for the fact that this introduces yet another method of surveillance into society?
First single nanotube radios, now this. We're gonna need more than one tin-foil hat.
Be glad they are colour CCDs, the B/W CCDs are about 4 times more sensitive and will pick up more detail in lower light. Should you see a cellphone which looks like someone has operated on it and sports a thermoelectric cooling unit, you should be afraid, very afraid.
"lowlight sensitive and low noise, now just imagine a beowulf cluster of them!"
"i can't, i'm thinking how in soviet russia cell phones will be calling o
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Remind me how much you are paying for BLUETOOTH transfer of information again? I could do with a giggle!
Holy privacy violations Batman! (Score:3, Funny)
Emphasis on "dirty". People take those things into their homes and leave them on their bedroom end-tables you know.
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The real question at hand here. (Score:3, Informative)
F&TF3: Tokyo Drift (Score:4, Interesting)
Where all the kids are viewing/filming the race down the mountain as it goes by?
I thought that technology (well, that CGI) was rediculous but maybe it's not that far away?
(NOTE: Give me Karma, I admitted to watching that movie, that's gotta count for something).
Umm.....and the purpose? (Score:1)
For one, no one I KNOW walks with their cameras out in front of them, so the cameras would have setup such a way such that there is a single camera dedicated to capture the event. How do you know a camera is going to capture an event in the first place? Seriously, phones are for talking, not being your peeping-tom from afar.
Now for virii spreading purposes, this sounds awesome. Just set a pho
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Now for virii spreading purposes should be... Now for virus spreading purposes
There, fixed it for you.
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You must be a USian. The rest of the world moved on a long time ago. The "phone" is the mobile Internet and media companion in your pocket - the digital "you".
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And sorry about the virii slipup. Damn flu shot I go
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Q: Why did Apple make the iPhone?
A: They knew mobiles (Sony Ericsson Walkman amongst others) would take over their iPod business
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For one, no one I KNOW walks with their cameras out in front of them, so the cameras would have setup such a way such that there is a single camera dedicated to capture the event. How do you know a camera is going to capture an event in the first place? Seriously, phones are for talking, not being your peeping-tom from afar.
It would be pretty easy to strap a cell phone to your vest, wou
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Thanks for the thought, gramps.
Seriously though, when something that does happen people want to record, there will be several people recording it. That is when it is useful.
The bigger the event, the more people will be recording it. Most of the time, the bigger the event the more important it is.
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RTFA. The positions of the phones are assumed to be static. They use the motion of people around them to work out a few basic things about their relative positions, and that's really about it. The slash blurb makes it sound a lot more interesting than it real
I predict (Score:5, Insightful)
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Bullet-time, swoop around come shots?
Actually, in slow mo- people's bodies look disturbingly ripply.
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Especially if there is no easy way to cause it to malfunction. As often appears to be the case with publically accessiable webcams near the site of any kind of demonstration. Even more so if the resolution is high enough to clearly see police officers faces and/or read their badges.
concert-recording on the cheap (Score:5, Interesting)
We're all carrying these great little computers: we should start doing networked or collaborative stuff with them.
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I guess the little dinky mic may not be so different from a typical bootleg though...Still, neat idea. It makes sense that you could do that kind of manipulation, but I'd never really considered it (Signals *really* is not my forte)
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Signals isn't my forte either, by a long shot. It's just an idea I thought was interesting, so I started playing with using some dsp software mixers.
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Sorry, but speaking as someone with a degree in electrical engineering who spent the better part of a decade studying this stuff, it just doesn't work like that. You can use padding tricks increase the [false] resolution of the spectrum you're dealing with, but you can't recover signal that you failed to record in the first place. See also: Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem [wikipedia.org].
For a simpler analogy, it's like using 16-bit registers to recor
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a) would be physically seperated so you'd have to
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My oscilloscope dithers the clock rate so even though it's 350 MHz, it acts cleaner because it moves back and forth across a signal, to evade aliasing artifacts. My thought was that multiple data streams from different cellphones would act similarly, but if the data's shorted to ground before it ever sees the ADC's front end, well, just phoo.
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Your oscilloscope uses random repetitive sampling to reconstruct repetitive waveforms which general audio is not. There is a trigger circuit which serves to align the sampling clock with the presumed start of the waveform so that new samples are placed into the correct place. This technique allows full reconstruction of a high bandwidth repetitive
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However even with low pass filters the values at the offset sampling points will be different and could still be used to enhance the frequency range. Whether you could with mobile phones or not is engineering not theory
Another point is that most modern sampling systems do not have particularly effective low pass filtering prior to sampling. Analog filters take a fair bit of space even if they are surface mount or integrated into chips. Most devices rely on the filters in fron
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matfud
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Couldn't you synchronize the samples using the phase of a common high amplitude frequency component? Say the first drum beat of the song, which would provide a good synchronization point as well as phase information.
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One thing I am
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You can use padding tricks increase the [false] resolution of the spectrum you're dealing with, but you can't recover signal that you failed to record in the first place.
For a simpler analogy, it's like using 16-bit registers to record 32 bit integers. No matter how many 16 bit registers you use or how you combine them, you're not going to recover the upper 16 bits -- they're lost because you didn't record them.
I'm not sure what you mean by "padding tricks" but I have to disagree and your analogy is what makes it clear. By using two 16-bit registers you can fully represent a 32-bit value.
Similarly an 8KHz sampling rate means that a measurement is taken 8,000 times per second or once every 1.25 milliseconds. If you have two 8KHz recordings that are offset by exactly half of the sampling period (0.625 milliseconds) from each other then you can combine the two into a single recording with a sampling period of 0.62
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Correct, but this is like storing the same (or very similar) 32-bit integer in two 16-bit registers (the same integer, put in both places). The top data is sliced off both of them.
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To use a car analogy: You can construct a complete working car from a junkyard provided that the cars in the junkyard have different problems and conversely different working parts.
As the way multiple low resolution images of the same seen create a higher resolution is primarily based upon the (usually accurate) assumption that the images will be lit differently such that where information is lacking in one image, it _is_ in another, and vise versa.
However, with the phones, the
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* those pics were taken during a lunar eclipse with my DV camera (25x optical
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Great idea. you are forgetting one small tidbit. Audio quality will suck because of 2 things you fail to consider. Microphone quality in cellphones is below dismal. Think lower than toy quality. Secondly the audio processing aspects of callphones is just as dismal. Unless you can get an open hardware platform to scab on decent microphones and decent audio circuits and encoders it will not sound any better th
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Actually they are both quite good for the intended purpose. Which is to pick up speach from within a few cm of the microphone.
Unless you can get an open hardware platform to scab on decent microphones and decent audio circuits and encoders it
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I get recordings that are typically far better than the live albums you can buy. adding a 9V battery box increases the dynamic range even better. if you are at outdoor loud events, adding some attenuation also works wo
Not exactly.... (Score:1)
No (useful) image from you, but it still might be useful sonar data.
Until someone starts putting bluetooth phones into the walls and burying them into the ground just to screw with people.
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Little Brother? (Score:1, Insightful)
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Labware (Score:2)
The team also found that ... (Score:3, Funny)
Telescope Array (Score:1)
Huh ? (Score:2, Funny)
Somebody please explain the use of such a... discovery ?
Ah.
Surveillance.
I get it now. The T word is about to be spoken, again. Great. I'm looking forward to BT-holding surveillance militia roaming the streets.
Terrifying (Score:1)
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Power use? Data Costs? (Score:2)
battery life (Score:1)
Analyze the average quantity of pocket lint? (Score:2, Insightful)
What's the point of this, again?
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You are also overlooking the fact that if Gollum had one, he would have know what was in Bilbo's pocketess
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Can you see me now? (Score:3, Funny)
Off topic .. well tangential (Score:2)
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Only privacy protects that. Privacy comes with it's own risks and abuses but carries some ability to redress abuses.
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In '1984' monitoring was bad because the people couldn't monitor the 'government', and if they could they had no recourse.
In the US, people actually do have recourse, and in fact have protection that help them.
Do people try to over ride those laws for there own agenda? From time to time, yes. Inevitably they get slapped down.
We also have the advantage of being able to remove someone from office.
Plus your appearance on a public area is not private information.
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We need protection FROM the majority. For some seriously extended periods of history a majority of the population can get really weird. Sometimes only a tiny secret flickering flame of liberty remains.
Closed-circuit? (Score:2, Funny)
Sounds like Crichton (Score:1)
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Scary book nonetheless, though.
The Bandwidth (Score:1)
another project along the same lines (Score:1)
Here's his page on the project: http://www.research.rutgers.edu/~uli/Sarana/ [rutgers.edu] (summary PDF at the bottom)
What they should do... (Score:1)
Bad good? (Score:1)