High-Quality YouTube Videos Coming Soon 134
mlauzon writes with the news that YouTube's co-founder Steve Chen has announced high-quality video streams are in the works for the popular site. He spoke today at the NewTeeVee Live event, discussing the challenges facing the project and when we can expect to see less grainy social videos. "The need to buffer the video before it starts playing will change the experience. Hence the experiment, rather than just a rapid rollout of this technology. On stage, he said the current resolution of YouTube videos has been "good enough" for the site until now. Chen told me he expects that high-quality YouTube videos will be available to everyone within three months. Chen also confirmed that in YouTube's internal archive, all video is stored at the native resolution in which it was sent. However, he said, a large portion of YouTube videos are pretty poor quality to begin with — 320x240. Streaming them in high-quality mode isn't going to help much."
Its about time.. (Score:2, Interesting)
IMO youtube has gone downhill a bit. Seems like more often than not, a link is dead for copyright issues.
Though back on topic, it will be nice to watch something on there that is still watchable at full screen.
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Ya, until the tubes get clogged with all those High_Quality videos.
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YouTube was terrible from the very beginning. The only reason anyone puts up with the site is because it is so popular, and the only reason that it is popular is because of the media coverage of the Lazy Sunday removal.
No: http://www.google.com/trends?q=youTube [google.com]
That was in early 2006, and there's a bummp, barely visible, that corresponds to it on the google trends, but that was by no means a significant event overall.
Youtube is popular because it has anything and everything. Low-quality beats not-available any day of the week.
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YouTube was terrible from the very beginning.
Terrible for what? I've used it rarely, and mostly for educational purposes (I don't surf for funny videos), and it works great for watching short presentations, instructional videos, or other clips. It's even good for "what's the melody of that song?"
YouTube is a hell of a lot better than the alternative that existed when it all started: uploading videos to a web server somewhere. (Nobody uploaded videos, back when you had to be a computer geek to do so.) YouTube works well enough that my computer illiter
Its about time.. (Score:2)
In YouTube's defense, I've never heard of stage6 before. Rest assured, if it gets as popular as YouTube, they will get "crazy" on the copyright stuff. (Unless, of course, they're hosted out of country in some location where copyright stuff isn't an issue, but then, there are other issues to deal with at that point.)
Also, the reason videos on YouTube are kind of crappy is because that's the resolution it's always supported. I mean, why upload a 100MB file at a decent native resolution if it's just going
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Far, far easier to nagivate through than the current video-on-deman
SO how long (Score:5, Funny)
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www.youporn.com
obviously NSFW.
Happy now? I bet you are (or will be in afew minutes). =)
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Just give us back Google Video (Score:4, Insightful)
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The old behaviour was much better (opening in a new browser window, but filling it).
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Also, I make use of their wonderful option to filter by length.
HTH
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Stage6 (Score:2)
Just double click on the video, and you have fullscreen AND hardware-accelerated video.
No cpu-hogging, full-of-artifacts, crappy flash video.
Better encoding doesn't imply better videos... (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, how many inane video blog rants does the world need? How many crappy video editor projects capitalizing on some weak meme, repeating the gag (with/without stutter, slow-mo, upside-down, etc.) until it has lost any hope of being at all funny? And how many poorly-produced copycats for any given video on the site?
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Meh, it's still better than television.
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Your post ranting against poor quality user created content is itself user created content - and rather poor content at that!
So what you really need to ask yourself, then, is how many narrow minded Slashdot comments does the world need? Clearly, you felt that that the answer to that question was at least one more!
Obviously, 90 % of Youtube content is crap. That's also true for professionally made cont
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To bad (Score:5, Funny)
Youtube Have Been Trailing for a long time (Score:3, Insightful)
High quality video content... (Score:5, Funny)
Questions.... (Score:3, Informative)
Currently, the only good outlet I've found for high quality video sharing is vuze.com. I currently upload videos to both YouTube and Vuze, since with Vuze you have to install the torrent client, etc. The upside is full HD videos.
I find it very interesting to note that the videos you upload are stored in the original format. A lot of people are probably kicking themselves right now for not uploading them at a higher quality, although lately I've been sending them high quality files so that when they are recompressed you're not adding crud on top of crud. However I've never sent them anything higher resolution than 320X240. Might have to re-up some stuff if they decide to kick the resolution higher than that.
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I don't care as much what the resolution is, but it would be nice to have those limits raised.
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Is there some special reason you continue to use YouTube if the constraints bother you? There are a ton of other sites that have different constraints, and if you're just sending links to friends it shouldn't matter which site you use.
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Yeah, because I want people to find my videos and the vast majority of the Internet population uses YouTube.
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Does YouTube actually help you accomplish that goal, or does the vast volume of videos posted to the sight distract people from ever finding your stuff? Actually a more interesting question is this: Does anyone actually ever find your videos by just searching around YouTube itself?
It seems to be that you'd be better off getting in on the "blog with embedded videos" thing than just getting lost in th
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Why? What (little) I've uploaded, I encoded at 320x240 at the highest quality possible with their size restriction. I don't regret optimizing it for quality under a known set of limitations, just because of the possiblity that someday they might raise the limits a tad.
lately I've been sending them high quality files so that when they are recompressed you're not adding crud on top of crud
I had the i
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Its always re-encoded to FLV.
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I'm hoping for 1920 x 1200 progressive at 75 fps ... because my monitor can handle it :-)
I guess that's not going to be 3 months away :-(
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As opposed to real scaling? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are they faking the scaling or something? Making you think it has been scaled via hypnosis, when it is actually playing at the original size?
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It's not really a question. The answer is whether you pay or not, as long as they get within 480p quality, it will almost certainly mean the beginning of the death of things like network/cable TV and TIVO. With the possibility of higher quality video, why would I need cable TV service or a TIVO when I can just download and view the content on demand?
If you want a case study look no further than anime fansubs and bittorrent--some anime reaches the rest of the world fully subtitled within 24 hours of the
High quality youtube videos are already here! (Score:5, Informative)
Of course, on a serious note, I welcome the ability to upload high quality videos without relying on absurdly high bitrates to compensate for H.263's crappiness.
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With lots of love, an ex signature snipper.
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You know, H.263 is the 1-st gen codec in Flash. Flash has supported On2 VP6 for years now, and now supports MPEG4/AAC streams too.
Not to blame Flash for this, but YoutTube.
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In other news (Score:5, Funny)
It is survived by ARPANET, and SneakerNET. As well as PigeonNET
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Couple with decentralized storage that copy popular content close to demand so you can pull more content off your general area instead of halfway across the globe.
Word of mouth still links into geographical location. Most of my firends live in the same region as me, even if I use email to tell them about the lastest news.
If a million people in Mongolia suddenly decides to watch Turbonegro's latest HD music video? Pushing HD over there sh
Proviso (Score:5, Funny)
That is all.
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Scratch me (Score:1)
On a dial-up I can barely download youtube at the moment. With higher res my puny bandwidth will be insufficient. As is most of this stuff is binary and doesn't compress.
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The internet in general is getting further away, like an expanding universe, from the capacity of dial-up. I've contemplated the point where DSL will begin to look like beaten down 56K due to the size of pages and volume of content.
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Dude, the 1990s called (Score:1)
Reason for low res submissions (Score:4, Insightful)
I would think a lot of this has to do with the fact that it's a pretty common trick to get decent quality with the existing youtube.. resize your video to 320x240 at the highest bitrate that will keep you below 100 megs. The logic is if you reduce the amount of reprocessing that's necessary, fewer artifacts appear.
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That'll be nice, but (Score:2)
YouTube started because people wanted to share their independently made videos. With the recent news of Opera/other high-profile media stars, more blingbling style stuff, etc... it seems YT is losing sight of what their community built them up to be.
I'd rather just have better sound. (Score:5, Interesting)
For people who watch music-type stuff on Youtube and care about things sounding nice, a better audio stream would be a welcome change.
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Building for the future? (Score:3, Interesting)
I was really into video production back in the mid 90s. At that time I was all VHS and used a Video Toaster - I thought it was hot shit, but there was so much I couldn't do like frame-accurate editing, 3D animation, etc.
In about 1996 I participated in a consumer survey on video products. They group I was with kept looking at me funny because I wanted frame-accurate control, higher-quality, not affected by copying (multiple generations) all in consumer equipment. Even I thought it was a pipe-dream - that kind of control was WAAAAY out of the hands of a hobbyist.
But when I finally got my hands on my first MiniDV camera, hooked to my computer via Firewire, it was that huge leap forward that I would have NEVER dreamed about in 1996. All of a sudden I had a medium that was frame-accurate, didn't suffer from multiple generations, and was much higher quality than VHS, allowed frame-level edits/graphic control. How cool!
Now there are even movies out shot on MiniDV and it's variants. That would have been impossible to do with anywhere near the same level of quality - on consumer (!) equipment - in the mid-90s.
Once the technology is in place, content will eventually be created to fill the void. We just have to give it more time.
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Contrast this with photography, where for many years even a bottom-of-the-range SL
They may want to check with Comcast first... (Score:2)
Fascinating. Your ISP complaing necause you are USING the bandwidth they SOLD to you.
Sorry, it's easy to rant about this, even if it is pointless. And I'm not even a Comcast customer. Guess I want my ISP (Cox) to avoid this in the future...
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Upscaling Video (Score:5, Interesting)
Google's got the money and PhDs to make that work. I'd love to see them drag the archive of lorez movies into a hirez platform.
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But Google already harnesses lots of distributed computing power: nearly all of the CPU cycles consumed in playing their videos is consumed on the viewing user's PC. Which uses a Google Flash applet to play it back. Google could include in that applet extra code which chews away at some of their archived video. Which could in turn become a way for Google to expand its crunching power to other tasks, like indexing. I'd toggle a
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It only works if the video is sufficiently aliased tho, because if the video contains no aliasing (that is, properly filtered so that no frequency components high than half the Nyquist frequency are aliased back under half the Nyquist frequency) then you can't do that, can you?
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OK sorry maybe it's because I'm tired but I completely fail to understand what you said.
Perhaps, but video like that would look like an Atari 2600 game
Video like that, you mean, a video with no aliasing as I described??
with real object lighting converted to always color every pixel into which it was sampled exactly the same.
Errr.. what?
A rectangular dot moving around the screen, except for the tiniest variations in natural lighting at very small/brief scales of timespace.
I didn't get that one either..
Chicken and Egg (Score:2)
Using Adobe Premiere CS (or other tools) to pre-scale the videos to "youtube quality" gives us MUCH better results than uploading the original quality (which is 720x576p) and letting youtube resize it. It also (obviously) allows us to upload longer videos.
The case of "not many high quality originals" is a chicken and egg issu
High Quality? (Score:1, Redundant)
Youtube should enable video smoothing already. (Score:1)
My Google Video HD Problem (Score:2)
About a year or two I was attempting to upload HD quality video to GVideo and was severely disappointed with their compression quality. I had to re-export my videos at a lower quality, and those ended up being a little better (but still not great).
The kicker was I had a 90 minute compilation of my videos that came up to several Gigs in the standard HD format, but around 500 MB in the lower quality export that I tried to send to Google. After several iterations through their upload software, I have never
3 months? (Score:4, Funny)
I think after about 2 months I'd say, "Screw it, I'm sick of staring at this 'buffering' animation."
And who is going to upload it? (Score:2)
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The internet was never designed to be a one way street.
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At least we aren't stuck with satellite Internet access, where we use a (unidirectional) dish to communicate with a satellite. Some people far out of the reach of urban centers are stuck with that. Though some have the option to use dial-up as the terrestrial return, it's limited to 33k or so, since not even dial-up is synchronous. Also, the option to have satellite return in addition to the downstream link is very expensive, and still slow.
A friend of mine said that upload is expensive, and he didn't e
Variable movie ratio! (Score:2)
There's so much good content in 16:9 but encoded in 4:3 by YouTube.
When I watch full screen on my 16:9 monitor, I have 1.5" of black bars all around the movie.
YouTube gurus, please fix that!
How I change the aspect ratio on YouTube videos (Score:2)
When I encounter YouTube videos that are the wrong aspect ratio, I just download it and then play it back with mplayer with the "-aspect 16:9" option. This also works for videos that I want to replay slowly if the movement is too fast to be caught (e.g. cool CGI effects).
Oh... does this mean... (Score:2, Funny)
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Err... No he didn't? (Score:3, Interesting)
He certainly didn't say anything about a high quality YouTube in the next three months. I think this blogger read more into the talk than what Chen said. However he implies that he talked to him directly, so I can only vouch for what was said at the conference.
Yeah, great idea... (Score:1)
While this is a good idea in the future, I think first priority should be ensuring that ALL videos load at an acceptable speed. 4kbps is not an acceptable speed.
Awesome, now we get to... (Score:2, Funny)
AppleTV Youtube interface (Score:2)
Find a friend with an appletv or an Apple store and check it out!
Re:File size - 1GB now (Score:4, Informative)
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I absolutely love this script. I even wrote a wrapper for it which has my password and login and uses the file name as the description, etc.
If I have a ton of videos I need to upload, right before I go to bed I just do a youtube_batch *.mp4. When I wake up everything is online.
Direct link to perl script [catonmat.net]