Vista SP1 Update Locks Out Some Users 410
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable. The update loops forever on "Configuring updates: Stage 3 of 3 — 0% complete. Do not turn off your computer." "Shutting down"... restart and loop. Echostorm notes having found traces of what sounds like the same bug in early beta releases of SP1. It's unclear how many users are affected. So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
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There, I fixed that for you.
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Only on Slashdot.
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So, yes. They have quite a large testing environment going on. I know you were kidding, but...
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
Oddly enough everybody thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.
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Oddly enough everybody thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.
Little wonder - those who got bit by the bug obviously couldn't respond to the survey. :)
(yes, I am kidding. Or am I?)
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh wait. Never mind.
Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia, memes spew you....
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Exactly.
Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Never.
So far my systems always BSOD'd when an automatic update went wrong.
Seriously, maybe they're just catching kernel errors, reboot and retry now.
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Taking a leaf out of apple's book? (Score:5, Funny)
Now seriously (Score:2, Interesting)
I say that because we have been Beta testing SP1 on 350 machines here at my university for some months now. Machines with different graphic cards, processors , extra hardware like scanners, different printers, graphic input tablets, and so on. That problem in our 350 machines was never detected.
So, sure, that pr
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Maybe it was the reference to "Mak" and "MakOz"? The only thing missing was "Mak f@nboiz SUXRZ!".
ROFLMAO (Score:4, Informative)
Ahhh, Microsoft. Thank you for all the work you throw my way!
The only thing I can confirm so far is yep, Safe Mode don't work.
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This is a problem reported on a beta version, and so will likely be fixed in the final. The final is currently 'unreleased' to the public (although it's out there), and the beta version requires registry entries to install. In both cases you need admin rights on the machine. The summary is *completely* wrong in that SP1 is not available on Windows Update yet, and that's even assuming that the
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I love how the pro-MS trolls are out in force today.
SP1 prevents Vista from booting? (Score:5, Funny)
Win a T-Shirt! (Score:5, Funny)
Q: Vista SP1 gets locks up the machines after update.
A: [x] Fiction (wins a T-Shirt)
[ ] Fact (truth but no T-Shirt to you bad boy.)
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their answers, not mine
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sarcasm |särkazm|
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt : his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment. See note at wit
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein 'tear flesh,' in late Greek 'gnash the teeth, speak bitterly' (from sarx, sark- 'flesh' ).
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When opening slashdot for the first time every day, please scroll to the bottom first and at least glance through the headlines. This will make it easier to catch local humor and apply DUP tags as quickly as possible.
Thank you,
The management
Lucky! (Score:2, Funny)
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Vista is imitating Apple Again! (Score:5, Funny)
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Or a Vista counting problem. It couldn't figure out what comes after 0 so it couldn't move forward. After all if it takes 14 days to copy a gig of files one has to wonder about basic math inside of Vista.
Ye who lack faith (Score:5, Funny)
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Computers don't really have that clunky feel anymore, and we're leaving the "hot-rod" modder age that was kinda akin to 60's and 70s muscle cars. Laptops are more like the newer less modable cars, so the OS is the only opportunity I get to have these fun experiences!
yay
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ANYTHING that pops up with the words "Yes", "OK", "Next", or "Finish" gets clicked with lightning speed as if they were playing a game of whack-a-mole. I even had one instance where I was doing training, and the software program would give a confirmation number that the user was supposed to write down for their
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After all, we all know you never have to reinstall Windows, so what's a few days?
Regression testing, people (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:4, Interesting)
* How many CPU makers are out there today? 2. (Transmeta is dead).
* How many companies make chipsets (north/southbridges) today? 4(?)
* GPU makers? 3.
* BIOS vendors? 3(?)
* Sound cards? 2 (Intel & Creative)
* Expansion interfaces? 2 (PCI, PCI-Express)
Now, look back to 1993-1995. How many no-name brand BIOSes caused problems? How many brands of VGA chipsets were there? CPU makers? (Think Intel, AMD, Cyrix, NexGen, C&T,...) How many expansion interfaces were there (ISA, VLB, PCI, MCA). How many brands had their own incompatible hardware, where Microsoft's HIMEM.SYS had special switches for (AST, Everex, IBM PS/2, etc.) All of these worked well with DOS/Win3.x and Win95.
No, this is Microsoft's way of saying "we don't know what's wrong with Vista!"
3 GPU makers? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Interesting)
Your funny math makes my brain hurt.
The number of vendors is a horrible measurement. Try variants on for size:
How many CPU variants does one of the two manufacturers currently support? Try over 125. http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx?f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=& [amd.com] Oh, and that's just for the desktop.
GPU? NVidia has 38 families of chipsets. At ~5 products for each chipset, you're over 190.
What about all of the other hardware on a motherboard? Bluetooth, USB, Firewire, network drivers and modems are some of the largest contributers to OS development overhead/headache; tell me, have you ever tried to load up Feisty Ubuntu using a Broadcomm wireless device?!?
By the way, this doesn't include all of the half-assed components people drop onto their computers like humping dog memory sticks or coffee warmers let alone all of the out of date drivers people have installed on their systems (have you checked your BIOS rev lately?).
This isn't "Microsoft's way of saying 'we don't know what's wrong with Vista,'" it's Microsoft's way of saying, "we're trying our damnedest to clean this up, but you idiots keep pissing in the pool."
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Ironic, one of the greatest abusers of standards today, being bitten on the ass because of non-standards compliance.
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3 that try for the mainstream (Intel, AMD, VIA), but MS also makes pared down versions of XP that run on embedded platforms, usually with CPUs by IBM, Motorola, or Conexant, though the 3 major players all have offerings in this family, too.
In mainstream computing, it's pretty much NVidia or ATI these days. But there's also offerings out there from all of the CPU manufacturers
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The problem is clearly your imagination. MS has a complete and total grasp on the situation. Their sales rep told me so.
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Interesting)
It appears that each little division of Microsoft is their own little fiefdom. Take a common DLL - comctl32.dll (common controls). Windows ships with one version. Office ships with another version. Applications (using Visual Studio Redistributables) ship with a third version! Each has features that aren't in the others, so Windows apps get one look, Office another look, and 3rd party apps yet another look.
In addition, the OS team forked the compiler they use from the development team. It makes sense in one aspect - all developers have a stable toolchain. However, if the dev team breaks something, instead of the Windows team making a big stink, people who use Visual Studio do.
As far as anyone's concerned, Microsoft might as well be split up into separate companies - they more or less act that way anyhow. Code's taken from one team and forked, improvements aren't folded back in, etc.
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No, they have just come to the realization that they can save tons of money by outsourcing their QA to their customers.
It's not on windows update (Score:5, Informative)
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doh (Score:2)
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I began downloading the update again to see if it is repeatable, or if it was due to other drivers on my system. If it's repeatable, I would say this is a very, very
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Don't Panic!!!! (Score:4, Funny)
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http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/14/microsoft-management-mobile-tech-enter-cx_bc_0214microsoft.html?partner=yahootix [forbes.com]
Brick?!? (Score:5, Funny)
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Anyway, who cares? I suddenly feel like it's time to can Windows altogether and finally do the switch to Linux.
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fivesecondsuntilimproperuseofbrick ?
countdowntononbrickevent
we need a poll
A RC Refresh through Windows Update (Score:2, Informative)
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I havn't found a single thread about someone saying anything about windows update.
For those who say "Get a Mac" (Score:5, Interesting)
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That's some keen fucking reporting (Score:5, Informative)
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable.
A forum post from last month about issues with the Vista SP1 Release Candidate (prerelease code, just to let Echostorm know). SP1 does not go out via auto updates until next month, and is only officially available to select system builders and beta testers now.
It's unclear how many users are affected.
I counted 5, including the guy who yanked his power cable and trashed his filesystem.
So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
It might possibly be fixed in the RTM version of SP1. Who knows? Certainly not Echostorm, who is having a poopie because he hosed his own PC and is trying to drum up a whine-fest about it. Definitely not kdawson either, who posted this because, well, it's kdawson.
This is taking slashvertisments to the preschool tantrum level.
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Here's the key phrase:
There you have it. It's not in 100% finished form. Have you done any software development before? Obviously you haven't, because then you're realize that code-complete does not mean you've tested it on every single possible hardware setup in every single possible environment. Could it be that maybe they're testing it for six weeks before releasing it implies that they haven't yet tested it in every single poss
Repair disk fixes vista problem (Score:5, Funny)
Vista Repair Disk [kernel.org]
I used it as soon as I started having problems with Vista on a new work computer and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
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Somewhat reminds me. . . (Score:5, Funny)
Um, yeah.
2009! (Score:2)
Trolly, but true.
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I call Shenanigans (Score:3, Interesting)
Um, people... (Score:2)
Vista SP1 isn't officially released yet, nor is it coming down by automatic updates.
So... why is this story about unreleased software trashing people's systems that they're stupid enough to install software that isn't RTM code being considered news?
Thank you for confirming... (Score:3, Informative)
Not only was the original article allowed to make it even though it was clearly incorrect. Since SP1 will not be available on Windows Update for at least a month. Most of the responders automatically piled on the typical anti-MS/Vista nonsens and even disagreed with posters trying to correct the article pointing to the article as proof.
ASUS P5N-E (Score:5, Informative)
A very large number of owners of ASUS P5N-E motherboards are reporting the same issue simply with recent updates. It's quite likely the SP1 update is simply triggering the same issue.
Here's a google search on the issue [google.com]. You'll notice a common thread is that P5N-E owners have the issue, users of other motherboards don't see it.
It's been happening since mid January, from what I can gather, and I'm not finding any solutions to it yet.
Oh dear (Score:3, Informative)
Oh slashdot, how you have become the Fox News of the IT world. Fact: SP1 has not been on automatic update yet, and won't be for a couple of weeks yet.
To echo what others have said, let's not let simple things like facts get in the way of good journalism.
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This is clearly a botch by Microsoft, not something "illegally downloaded".
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Not sure what you want corrected, but SP1 is most definitely not rolled out on Windows Update yet, that is planned for mid-March. Something we just a few stories ago were bashing MS to kingdom come for. So
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So, as I said above, either that's flat out wrong, or someone at MS messed up.
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So yeah - this story seems like bullshit and those parroting its claims need to remember that this is Slashdot - where facts are less important than a story tagged "haha".
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I suck.
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automatic updates? (Score:5, Informative)
They however failed to tell what drivers were affected, and how you can manually fix it. Yanking the power cord certainly is not the method MS would recommend. It htink you need the install disk and run some kind of recovery mode. (that is how it worked under XP.
The linked forum post is referring to a RC, not to the RTM.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/11/windows-vista-sp1-availability-for-technical-customers.aspx [windowsvistablog.com]
"For broad availability, we are still planning to release in mid-March, since we want to be sure that everyone has the smoothest experience possible.". You can have it earlier if you are want to touch buttons....
windows update is only pushing
the final two of three prerequisite updates needed to install Windows Vista SP1 [windowsvistablog.com]
basically it says you still need 2 more reboots before you can have sp1 automatically.
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Certainly not what I'd call an "easy" process -- easy for me, maybe -- but it's by no means a brick.
Vista SP1 isn't public yet, unless you pirate it. (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft placed 6 weeks between code finalization and public release for 6 weeks of driver testing; some drivers were not properly written, and MS wanted to work with hardware manufacturers/OEMs to find hardware with problems. Everyone bitched about how technical users should get it early.
Then these same people download SP1 from an unauthorized source, and bitch when it breaks their system. They downloaded an update without letting Microsoft work the kinks out, and they didn't get the update from MS. No automatic download was involved in this.
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Re:Popping Sound (Score:5, Funny)
Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua...
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I'll buy Vista SP1 blowing up some poor bastard's computer and killing his dog, but sleeping with his wife? With or without the suggestively named "Service Pack", Vista is much too lame to bone a guy's wife.
It would be so busy phoning home to make sure sex with a real, live woman wasn't forbidden by Sony or some other DRM-Monster, wifey would be off banging XXXP Pro while Vista was still issuing safe download warnings.