Marketing On a .EDU Domain 121
wrttnwrd, an Internet marketer, opens a can of whup-ass on
LinkAdage and the Pickering Institute, which have teamed up to rent blog space on a .edu domain for $50 a month. Technically legal maybe but undermining of the trust a .edu engenders.
All the education you need! (Score:2, Insightful)
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As far as I see it, advertising on an EDU is perfectly ethical if it is used to subsidize bandwidth (and NOT line the pockets of a greedy bureaucrat).
And when the schools introduce a method of reducing their need for your hard-earned money, you complain?
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So... life ISN'T fair?! Wait until I tell everyone!
Re:All the education you need! (Score:5, Insightful)
It's 2008. I think the idea that educational institutions are anything but commercial meat-grinders has expired.
Re:All the education you need! (Score:4, Informative)
Honestly, most people have either not figured this out, or are in complete denial about this.
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Might I suggest that you watch the (animated) video of "Another Brick in the Wall" by Pink Floyd. Turn the sound off if you don't like the music, but the imagery of the (animated) video is pretty unambiguous. The lyrics don't leave large amounts of work for your imagination either.
That was about 1980, a
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I'd stop dealing with a private school that did this, but as a public school they get to double-dip, taking tax money *and* getti
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The school district I live in is over 400 square miles and one of the largest by population in my state. And I have seen multiple instances where 1 single parent has caused enormous changes to the way the district is run. The only difference between that parent and the thousands of other parents in the district is willingness to do something. To be the "people" in "We the people". So when you represent yourself as so appalled at how terrible the public schools are run all I have t
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Many schools I believe are serious when they say need money. I try to help these. Others have spent too much on decoration for me to believe them when they beg for money.
Regardless, I try to donate money to schools directly instead of helping them perpetuate this tax-grab. When I'm ta
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You bitched about people fighting schools on tax - I tried to explain why. You are right there are ways to influence schools (PTA meeting, etc) but my point is that they are all less effective the more money a school gets from taxes.
My examples of an unresponsive school date mainly from th
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My examples of an unresponsive school date mainly from the last time I was forcibly involved with a school, when I attended.
Either a. you were only involved in education when forced, or b. That was the only time the school was unresponsive to your concerns. Therefore either; aa. You have not been involved without being forced OR bb. The school listens to you now.
When you're a taxpayer you're a wallet, preferably without a voice.
If you had ever cared to try and voice your opinions to the board you would know that this simply isn't true with regard to school districts at large.
And then there's your idea that I'm telling you to pay whatever "tax grabs". That's not what I've been saying at all.
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When you're a taxpayer you're a wallet, preferably without a voice.
If you had ever cared to try and voice your opinions to the board you would know that this simply isn't true with regard to school districts at large.
This is hardly related. I'm sure the school board would listen to my concerns if I went to a PTA meeting. They'd probably individually care even. But the organization as a whole isn't going to be half as responsive as if I was writing them a cheque.
Your "alternate" school was doing great things by being frugal, but these public schools are doing something evil when they try to find an alternative revenue stream to taxation?
My example of the schools was to show responsiveness to concerns. That's hardly the same as advertising to the students. You're conflating again.
The regular school was funded through tax money, the alternate was fund
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However, your hostile attitude and inability to admit that you're wrong is ample demonstration of why I called you a troll.
Your sarcastic comments, rude lists, implying insult to your mother's honor, calling me ignorant and juvenile, and then writing a "I'm s
Re:All the education you need! (Score:5, Insightful)
No, the idea is very much alive. The existence of these various outrages doesn't mean the idea is dead; it means we should fight against the new outrages that pop up.
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I once had a prof who told his classes that the only positive thing getting a Ph.D. would do for you was to make sure you'd never again be afraid to talk to another Ph.D. because you'd know they knew just as little as you did.
Trust in .EDU domains (Score:5, Interesting)
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I see this every day, trust me.
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Really? who looks at .edu? (Score:5, Informative)
And anyone savvy enough to know the difference should also be sceptical enough to not get suckered.
Re:Really? who looks at .edu? (Score:5, Interesting)
The reason this is a worthy news story is that search engines value inbound links coming from a
My boss forwarded me the announcement this morning but I declined as to me it's begging google to blacklist you.
Here's a bit from the email...
The rules are not static (Score:3, Insightful)
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People have been gaming the system forever and Google have been combating the gaming too.
That's kinda the whole point now isn't it? Except this to some extent is virgin territory for google --edu's are part of the foundational base of PR. The tone of your post would seem to indicate you believe google has done a decent job keeping up with the gamers of the system. I guess that's a subjective topic, but
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There have been a lot of fads in search of late, such as Human Assisted Search and contextual search. Do those get folded into search as a whole? What are real trends in search and what are fluff?
So let me first tell you about Google. At Google we do not manually change results. For example, if we find for a particular query that result No. 4 should be result No. 1, we do not have the capability to manually change it. We made that decision not to put that capability in the algorithmâ"we have to go and actually change the algorithm. That is, we have to find what weakness in the algorithm caused that result and find a general solution to that, evaluate whether a general solution really works and if itâ(TM)s better, and then launch a general solution. That makes the process slower, but it puts a lot more discipline on us and makes it more unbiased.
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None of these methods are foolproof, but they don't need to be; they just need to be enough to help tilt the existing ranking algorithm on
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In fact, I can't imagine Google doing something static like that. Not all schools are on
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I find myself link to .edu and .ac.uk sites a lot because that is where I find primary sources and otherwise authoritative sources. I doubt I would ever link to this particular .edu.
I doubt the fake edu domain in question will do any better with Goo
Interesting to say the least... (Score:5, Interesting)
Curiouser and curiouser.
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http://www.chea.org/pdf/chea_glance_2006.pdf [chea.org]
There are many, many
Well then. (Score:2)
If you knew a large group of people with common interests who don't like seeing the internet being misused in such a way, many of whom have access to big fat pipes, and plenty of time on their hands and nothing better to do, you could flood the site with traffic for a few days to send your message across.
Dunno where you'd ever find a group of people like that though...especially ones who have scant regard for the law in instances such as this...
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If there were too many fake views that it was hard for the ad company to pay out it might not be profitable to continue... If you've got a botnet, maybe it'd be worth pulling it off of the RIAA for a day or two.
About the site (Score:4, Informative)
It looks they use that same blog software on their home page, I'd say it's pretty obvious this whole set-up was with selling blogs in mind. Think about it: "pi.edu" that's prime internet real-estate.
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This is basically the next venue that causes EVERY google search to show those damn spam pages every time- because *surprise* these are
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=p
Most of the site "content" seems to be boilerplate 2nd rate higher education description - clearly just a construct for the advertising purposes.
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The whole thing's a scam.
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So, to answer your question: never, but not for the reason you think.
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I thought goatse started as
May not be a huge problem but... (Score:1)
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Of course, nobody really does, because the purpose of TLDs has been totally ignored (essentially) and doesn't serve its original purpose. goatse wasn't on Christmas Island, after all...
I'd be surprised if Google actually weighted
Funny, zero comments on blogs.pi.edu.. (Score:3, Funny)
Somehow I have a feeling that my comments won't see the light of day.
Is the "Pickering Institute" for real? (Score:5, Informative)
Does the "Pickering Institute" [pi.edu] even exist? Their home page is a WordPress blog. They have no contact information other than an e-mail address.
Their domain registration has an address of "2 Cityplace Drive, Suite 200, St. Louis, MO", which is also the address of Bin95.com [bin95.com], which does industrial equipment maintenance training.
Yes they are! (Score:5, Funny)
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Hypocrisy, slashdot.org is thy name (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyone else notice that slashdot.com redirects to slashdot.org, and not the other way around, as it should?
Hey, I've got no problem with Slashdot being a for-profit venture: I'm rooting for you, honest I am. But, for the sake of all that's nerdy, how about a little less hypocrisy and a little more honesty in advertising?
Yes, I know: "I must be new here".
Let the modbombing begin!
Re:Hypocrisy, slashdot.org is thy name (Score:5, Informative)
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Point of Order: (Score:1)
If you are going to use reverse psychology to get your post modded up, you really should make the effort to log on.
There are several vanity .edu domains (Score:3, Interesting)
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Sure, chw.edu is a hospital, and, as such, has student doctors, but it's not a school, as such. It's web presense is redirected to a
Probably should have changed the default wp passwd (Score:5, Funny)
:)
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Scam (Score:4, Insightful)
Rickroll (Score:1)
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At least attempt to look legit (Score:2, Funny)
Not just Pickering, it's also the FI.edu! (Score:1)
Pickering Institute (Score:1)
So this must be a finishing institute for young girls. They are taken out of the streets, as young "gutter-snipes" and taught their vowels. Their final exam is a royal ball where they must behave as "proper young ladies".
If the guests at the ball figure out you are from the gutter...then you fail.
If they don't...you pass
If they think you are Hungarian...you pass with honors.
Sorry...I couldn't resist.
Blackboard - doubleclick (Score:1, Interesting)
A terrorists wish come true.... (Score:1)
I am sure Osama would be the first one to register
Playing fields (Score:1)
"a can of whup-ass"? Sorry? (Score:1, Offtopic)
.edu trust ? (Score:2)
And now the domain has become an accreditation of sorts... must be a legit school, because they have .edu on their web site ? ... considering there are many other schools in the world.. .edu is poorly used, because you have to be accredited to US standards.. so it's basically a marketing ploy for US schools.
Why this could be bad (Score:4, Informative)
But why do people care so much about getting links on
Amazing Response to a TLD (Score:1, Interesting)
It's no secret that WWW.PI.EDU not a major university - no surprise there. However, they do have an online certification program. Before I came involved, PI.edu spoke with SEOs and link brokers who advised them to sell links and basically become a paid link farm to monetize the site.
Sure they would make money in the
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Reply from PI.EDU (Score:1)
I've reported this to the authorities (Score:2, Interesting)
I also reported the lack of accreditation to Educause, so I imagine their registration will disappear in due course.
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Arguably, Taco probably wasn't gunning for profit when he registered the domain, but I never saw anything inherently distasteful about slashdot.org (the name, anyway) being the web address of a for-profit business.
I think a lot of the community sites, even for-profit ones, would be more appropriately
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Slashdot was Slashdot.org long before they bought the
I wish that