Using Microwaves To Cook Ballast Stowaways 186
Smivs writes "US researchers say they have developed an effective way to kill unwanted plants and animals that hitch a ride in the ballast waters of cargo vessels. Tests showed that a continuous microwave system was able to remove all marine life within the water tanks. The UN lists 'invasive species' dispersed by ballast water discharges as one of the four main threats to the world's marine ecosystems. For example European zebra mussels (Dreissena polymorpha) have infested more than 40% of the US's inland waterways. Between 1989 and 2000, up to $1B is estimated to have been spent on controlling the spread of the alien invader."
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Too bad they don't taste good.
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-ghostis
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Zebra mussels are freshwater creatures. If you ever find a freshwater starfish and you'll be famous.
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The great lakes were dying from pollution before the zebra mussels.
At least the water that goes downstream is cleaner than it would be otherwise.
Hey, when life hands you a lemon ...
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Re:Life, lemons and unexpected outcomes (Score:5, Interesting)
Talk to anyone who does wreck diving in the Great Lakes. The water used to be really crappy - in fact, in areas it was about as opaque as a glass of lemonade. Or mud. Now it's a LOT clearer.
What we SHOULD be doing is laying removable mesh "beds" for zebra mussels to breed on outside every sewer discharge. Once a good colony is going, remove a portion of the bed each week and grind the mussels up for fertilizer or glue or fish food or whatever.
Henry Ford had the right idea - let people dump anything they want in the river, provided their water intake is downstream of it. After all, if you expect people downstream from you to drink it, you should be prepared to as well ... the zebra mussels are doing a lot of the work that we should be doing, but aren't.
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However, I'm not 100% certain on that one. I might be remembering it wrong. I do hope it's true though. More fish = better fishing.
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You're looking for the EPA study ...
http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/glwqa/usreport/part5.html [epa.gov]
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But, after an awful lot of testing that no native animals will be seriously harmed, predator animals (usually insects) are regularly used.
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Of course, if you are going to be introducing a non native species, you'd better be absolutely sure you know what you're doing. There are countless regulatory obstacles that typically need to be overcome, too, and it can take years before a species is approved to be released from quarantine into the field, if it ever is.
Typically, an introduced organism becomes a pest for one of two reasons: 1) it's a generalist that is a better competitor for resources than existing species (as is the case with the zebra mussel, which is unbelievably effective at filtering particulate organic matter from the water and subsequently undergoing rapid population growth) or 2) it becomes a pest or pathogen of a particular existing species. Many introduced plant pathogens fall into this second category- they have no natural predators in the new environment, as well as a food source that has not evolved any defense mechanisms against them. The balsam woolly adelgid or the chestnut blight fungus are two examples of the latter.
Although there are probably cases where introducing a new predator species can cause more problems than it solves (remember that Simpsons episode?), with careful planning and understanding of the ecology of the organism, such issues can hopefully be avoided. Usually, we err too far on the side of caution by choosing a species that is too much of a specialist, and we don't get the results we would hope for. Remember the Laricobius beetles I mentioned earlier? One problem with them is that they are so specialized, that when the hemlock woolly adelgid starts to become scarce the beetles have no other food source and begin to decline as well. They have no other food source, and thus have essentially no effect on existing native species.
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Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?
Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.
Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?
Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!
Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.
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It wasn't the best laid out plan.
If you do introduce a predator you have to ensure it is specialized for the target species and can not adapt to other creatures. The only sucessful release that I know of is the cactoblastis beetle which almost wiped out the pickly pear introduced into
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As the other comments stated, it was not a success.
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Yes, it has. Snakes were introduced into one of the Indonesian islands to deal with an introduced toad. Turns out that some of the indigenous animals were a lot easier for the snakes to catch. As a result, the local animal life is not only threatened by the toads, but also by the snake. If I'm off on the details, my apologies - I couldn't find the original story.
A variant of this is almost always what happens. Which is why this kind of thing isn't done this way any more.
Predators are sometimes used in their native habitat as pest control, like ladybugs or predator wasps released en-masse or (not predators as such) sterilised males to help curb the number of a given insect or things of the kind.
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The problem is that predators usually are not restricted to a single kind of prey, so they will not only control the organism you want to get rid of but prey on indigenous species that you don't want it to. A case in point is the rabbit problem in New Zealand, which has no indigenous mammals. Introducing predators such as foxes or coyotes is not an acceptable solution because they will also eat the various species of flightless birds. Even when there is a specialized predator, it is very difficult to be sure that it will stay specialized.
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flightless birds? (Score:2)
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Man, we're old. Remember when those old guys used to tell you how great Jackie Gleason was? Yeah, Les Nesman is older than that was. Dang.
"Oooh, I'm obtuse. 'An angle greater than 90 degrees. Rounded at the free end....'" - Les Nesman
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http://www.doc.govt.nz/templates/summary.aspx?id=33095 [doc.govt.nz]
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Even if the predators are able to effectively kill off the invader (which they often aren't), and they don't just switch to some other native species, then the predators start dying too. Eventually, the predator goes extinct due to lack of food supply, but some small portion of the original invader
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Have you considered removing them from your flat? That might make a difference on how you look at wildlife.
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Flats are for cute & cuddly native animals called possums, often refered to as "roof rabbits" or "dim sims".
"That might make a difference on how you look at wildlife."
Please don't presume you know how I "look at wildlife".
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Because the overwhelming majority of predators do not rely on a single food source. They will eat what's easiest to catch, which may or may not be what you actually want them to eat.
And don't give me crap about 'well it could be an invasive species too.'
I'm not going to give you any speculative crap, I'll just bet you $10 that the predator will be an invasive species, too.
If it's high up the food chain, it will be forced to
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Unfortunately it will eat anything, and it reproduces rapidly, and, to make it even better, it's poisonous to eat, so the things that would normally control their population eat them and die.
Biological control of invasives works, but you have
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Why don't you ask australia?
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*except the gobies eat all manner of crap and killed off a good chunk of the bass population during an e. coli outbreak.
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But without muscles, zebras would be all floppy and squishy. Plus, zoo revenue would go down. Who wants to watch a flat patch of stripes laying on the field?
-1 Lame
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But this is just evolution at work. Whenever a species makes a beachhead on a new environment there's an immediate conflict with native species. Whoever is better adapted wins. Because this is so sudden, on an evolutionary timeline, there's no time to adapt - either you're read
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First, there are new invasive species arriving at about 1 every 6 months in eg. the US Great lakes. So the damage is not done.
Second, the problem has been known for years and people have been trying to correct it since it's been known. It's been almost impossible to find a cheap, eco friendly system for sterilizing ballast water, although folks have been trying for several years now.
There have also been efforts to legally regulate the overboard discharge of water fr
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Excellent! If it's too late to do anything about the problem, then there's no need to impose additional costs on commerce, to implement pointless ballast-microwaving solutions. I take it you agree we should leave cargo ship ballast systems as they are, and invest our resources elsewhere?
I think not.... (Score:5, Funny)
A better solution, I propose, is to simply put some spent nuclear fuel into the ballast tank to kill off any invasive species before dumping the ballast water.
Posing as AC b/c I work for an environmental consulting firm...and my boss would fire me if he knew I was this "green".
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Why it's important to RTFA (Score:5, Funny)
My first thought was, "Wow, that sounds effective."
My second was, "But that is kinda harsh."
My thirs, "Cooooooool."
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"Excuse me, stewardess? Is something burning in the kitchen? Smells like bologna..."
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My second was, "But that is kinda harsh."
My thirs, "Cooooooool."
Wait... are you counting your thoughts, or your Alabama Slammers?
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The Fail Boat (Score:5, Interesting)
If you've seen pictures of the Fail Boat [flickr.com] around the internet, you might be interested to know the story behind it [wired.com] (link is to printer version). In short, the whole ordeal happened as a result of the requirement that they dump ballast water before entering US waters. The story on Wired covers the accident as well as the salvage operation and is an excellent read.
It appears that this is a dangerous enough process that it was worth eliminating it. That, or they're just trying to cut down on travel time by not having to stop - but that's just the cynic in me talking.
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At the time, it was thought that Mazda was going salvage title the cars, which would allow them to be sold as "totalled and rebuilt," no warranty, as-is. I'm flabbergasted by the WSJ report that they weren't simply junked, but outright destroyed. A major waste if you ask me, and I'm not typically the sort
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I can't see how one crew's mistake among thousands is an effective argument against dumping potentially infected ballast water well offshore. Lost Mazdas or not.
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He's simply arguing that the mistake highlights a risk (and an inconvenience) which may be avoided by the mechanism described in TFA, while still addressing the problems which necessitate the ballast dumping in the first place.
(Whether or not the proposed mechanism is, in fact, adequate, feasible, or ultimately desirable/undesirable in a global deployment is, however, beyond the scope of this particular facet of the discussion).
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Here's a better idea... (Score:2, Interesting)
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Might as well get used to it (Score:3, Insightful)
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Invasive species? (Score:2, Insightful)
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The zebra mussel thing would be an example for argument 2 - as I understand, it causes problems for the US inland fishing business.
Mussels?! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Mussels?! (Score:5, Informative)
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Next prob?
What about the railroads? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm just asking.
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Therefore, it is necessary to microwave on HIGH for a few additional minutes. Marinating helps too.
Was the previous method (Score:2)
I know, its a different type of "alien" but it seemed funny...
What can happen using low tech (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/16-03/ff_seacowboys?currentPage=all [wired.com]
*spoiler* essentially current cargo ships headed to the U.S. have to flush their ballast in international waters and refill with local seawater. The Cougar Ace somehow managed to screw up this step and went askew (see pic). There were many quite grave consequences.
Granted, it's not standard operating protocol to end up with losses like this just too keep out invasive species, but it does illustrate some of the challenges and extent of trouble people go to to comply with this kind of ecological directive. Plus it was a damn well-written story I enjoyed reading.
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:2, Funny)
US researchers say they have developed an effective way to kill unwanted plants and animals that hitch a ride in the ballast waters of cargo tankers.
Tests showed that a continuous microwave system was able to remove all marine life within the water tanks.
Mmmmmmmm..... Microwaves! (Score:3, Funny)
Somebody call Mike Rowe...
Chinese Mitten Crab Comes To Hudson River (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/35888.html [ny.gov]
I read articles that make them sound like "rats of the sea" but they do eat them in China so maybe they are good eating (trying to be hopeful).
"The fact they will climb over dams, go on shore into people's swimming pools, burrow into banks, we sure as hell don't need them here," Gabrielson said. "I really believe there's not a damn thing in the world we can do about it."
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070615/NEWS/706150327 [recordonline.com]
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I don't know much about the Hudson river or Chesapeake Bay, but if their anything like other waterways in built up areas, eating any animal that manages to survive in them would not be a good idea, unless you have some sort of heavy metal deficiency.
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Another way - Use nitrogen. (Score:5, Informative)
It purges the water of oxygen, killing any marine life. It also has the benefit of stopping corrosion.
It does have the downside of making the ships hull an instant death (asphyxiation) hazard.
No soup for you! (Score:2)
Periodic Flushing (Score:2)
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Other uses... (Score:5, Funny)
[For you youngsters: s/ballast/mother/g;]
swish and spit... (Score:3, Informative)
Starting this year cargo vessels are required to "swish and spit" - flush their ballast tanks 200 miles before entering the St. Lawrence seaway.
This probably doesn't do much good for saltwater invasive marine life but is a good solution for the freshwater nasties.
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Nice but (Score:3, Funny)
Zebra Mussels Have Also Cleaned the Great Lakes (Score:2)
Why not filter them at the source.... (Score:2)
Rather than microwaving the entire ballast tank continuously... just put in place a bottleneck area where the water is "treated". First with a forced water filter through a mesh to grab the majority of the unwanted critters (which could be ejected back into the ocean) then with the microwaves to kill off any microbes or other very small critters, including eggs, etc. that could develop into critters on the passage itself.
Seems to me that
Is Microwave cheaper than UV? (Score:2)
Re:Great! But... (Score:5, Funny)
And in answer to the followup question - delicious!
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In regards to your power query, ships generally have decent power generating reserves. The ship I just left (as an electrical engineer) had six 10 MW generators. Only four were online at a time (while underway - only two online in port) while maintenance was performed on the other two. Even then, the fo