Firefox 3 Hits Release Candidate 2 395
Barence noted that Firefox has announced release candidate 2 of their highly popular web browser. You can read the release notes while you download. And since my copy just finished downloading, I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any
Actual Release Notes (Score:5, Informative)
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Ever since Mozilla went corporate things have gone down hill. Going to mozilla.org (or
I miss the time when Mozilla was a user-friendly organization, when everything was public and *easy to find*
Re:Actual Release Notes (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think your perception of user-friendly means what you think it does. Perhaps what you're looking for is "developer-friendly" or "obsessive geek friendly," in which case you might be better off going to http://developer.mozilla.org [mozilla.org]
Home page has RC link... (Score:5, Informative)
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Sadly, those days are as gone as the days when you could freely check out the source code from CVS [mozilla.org], check the status of up-to-the-minute builds [mozilla.org] and build the complete application on your own [mozilla.org].
Which is to say they're not gone at all.
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alpha - Doesn't have all the features the final version is expected to have.
beta - Feature complite but has bugs which must be fixed before release version.
release candidate - If nothing serious is found, this will be the same as final release
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Argh. DISREGARD, that's the same bloody page that's in the article.
Well, it's a release candidate anyway so there's not going to be any new features. It'll be critical bugfixes only, which is probably why there's no dedicated release notes, they'll arrive for the final version. I'm guessing you could search Bugzilla to find recent fixes of critical or blocker bugs, but it's running pretty slowly now and I wouldn't know how to make such a search, so I'm leaving now.
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Old Look? (Score:3, Insightful)
(I'm one of those guys that still has the single close tab in the upper right corner rather than on each tab).
Re:Old Look? (Score:5, Informative)
-Register and log in to Firefox Addons
-Attempt to override the version check and install the theme
-Go to your %appdata% just after it fails and look for the temp XPI that it downloaded
-Copy it to the desktop and extract it with winrar
-Change the RDF file's <maxversion> to * or 3.0RC2 or something
-Zip the files back up, normal compression, rename to xpi
-Drag the file off the desktop into your firefox window to install!
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http://lifehacker.com/355973/make-your-extensions-work-with-the-firefox-3-beta [lifehacker.com]
I've done this and nothing complains about compatibility any more. Of course, there's a huge downside: nothing guarantees compatibility any more, either!
So far, I've found that old themes do not work very well (I miss Pinball!) In my case, they caused the scrollbar on the right side to disappear. On the posit
Re:Old Look? (Score:4, Informative)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543 [mozilla.org]
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Worked fine for me... I just click the scroll wheel on a link and bam, a new tab opens in the background on my Mac. Hey, it works in Safari too... and Opera.
Don't know what kind of Mac you're using, but they do work great with multibutton mice.
(And GUI designers can take a note about that - forcing a single button means you can't hide features away in right-click menus. There are literally Windows applications where the right click is used more often than left! Or heck, even Windows Explorer has modifier keys for right click - often Shift- or Alt- right-click can bring up a context menu with more actions [msdn.com].)
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Two fingers on the touchpad and a click simulates a right click, which was annoying at first, but now that I'm used to it I get pissed at having to find the right click button when I use another laptop, because I have to move my whole hand to place my thumb above the right button (which is sometimes smaller than the left so more awkward to reach), rather than just dropping down my middle finger then doing a normal click. For somethi
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Oh. Wait. It's at least as good as the 3 button plus scroll wheel Logitech mouse I have on my Linux box. I can use the middle button for new tabs on both computers.
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If you use the middle mouse button (scroll wheel) on a link it opens it in a new tab - so there one click :) ... Unless you are using a mac
Or unless you are using Linux and you miss the link because trying to click the scroll wheel caused the link to scroll away, so instead you've pasted your clipboard contents (often what you most recently had highlighted, even accidentally) to the current tab, and if the clipboard contained something Firefox could interpret as a valid URL or deduce a domain it will take you somewhere you likely didn't want to go and away from where you wanted to stay in that tab, instead of opening a new tab to the place yo
Retroactively screwed up? (Score:5, Funny)
Wow, the update retroactively screwed up the story submission? That's slick!
I was just thinking, I will have just upgraded by the time I am done reading this po
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Stop it here, ple
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There, I fixed that fo
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2. Repeat lame joke ad nauseum.
3. ?????
Re:Retroactively screwed up? (Score:4, Funny)
Yes, but you have to think in Russian [imdb.com]
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I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any weasels in my trousers.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any eels in my hovercraft.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any embarrassing mistakes visible to the entire world, or at least as much of the world as comes here when bored.
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I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any gerbils in my trousers.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any Hilary Clinton memorabilia lying around still.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any trouble
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It's more likely than you think (Score:2)
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I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have anyone welcoming our new customizable, multi-tabbed, XUL-based browser overlords!
It's a mad lib! (Score:2)
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any grues.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any women to nag at me.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any pizza that's been sitting in the fridge for more than a month.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any other nerds squatting in mom's my basement.
I guess I'll go install it. I hope I don't have any comments that stop in the middle of a sentence on the front pa
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Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (Score:5, Insightful)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235853 [mozilla.org]
Then I won't hold my breath for this release to me any more reliable or stable than any other from the last N years. Its about time they stopped doing a Microsoft and dicking about with "coooo , its so preeetty" UI stuff and bloatware functionalty that no one needs and starting fixing bloody bugs!
Yeah mod me down fanboys, see if I care, I'm just a user
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Defer proxy resolution for HTTP and HTTPS PAC to avoid blocking main thread during DNS resolution
User-Agent:
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040225
This bug has been split from #224447 as the symptoms are different. I will copy
relevant comments from #224447 into this bug report.
Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to Preferences, Advanced, Proxies
2. Select "Automatic Proxy Configuration URL"
3. Enter a URL to a valid PAC file
4. Click OK
5. B
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Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (Score:4, Informative)
Theres a difference between.. (Score:4, Insightful)
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I have reported the bugs, but do not see the problems get better with each beta or rc release.
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I haven't seen any memory leaks in 3 yet. Its Javascript engine is light years faster. It doesn't have Edit -> Preferences alongside Tools -> Options anymore, just a single location at Tools -> Options.
Have fun waiting for HURD-fox 1.0. In the mean time, I'll take what's available.
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The Mozilla developers have made Firefox 3 faster, more responsive, and more reliable than Firefox 2. The features were a
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Then I won't hold my breath for this release to me any more reliable or stable than any other from the last N years. Its about time they stopped doing a Microsoft and dicking about with "coooo , its so preeetty" UI stuff and bloatware functionalty that no one needs and starting fixing bloody bugs!
lol.. Since when is stuff like being able to cross-session resume downloads "bloatware"? Or have status info without opening the download manager? Or the new web developer support? The UI stuff is just what you see easily if you don't care to look, which you quite obviously haven't.
Have you even read a changelog?
http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/trunk-for-firefox-3.html [squarefree.com]
Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (Score:4, Interesting)
I wrote a proxy server to run on localhost, do DNS resolution, and send the request to the appropriate upstream proxy or directly to the source, just to work around this bug.
Re:Until they bother fixing critical bugs... (Score:4, Interesting)
You a firefox dev by any chance?
Works for me. (Score:2, Informative)
Who cares! (Score:5, Funny)
Beta, Beta, Beta, Beta, Beta, RC, RC (Score:2)
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So then you can complain about a rough feature that wasn't polished up enough in the rushed betas or a critical bug that wasn't fixed during the rushed release candidates? No thanks.
Gecko 1.9 (the basis of Firefox 3) is likely to be with us for a while. In fact, Gecko 2.0 is so far away that a Gecko 1.9.1 is planned to fix bugs that affected projects other than Firefox and make it a generally stable platform to work with until Gecko 2.0 is finally with us. Any rushing here and we'll be regretting it for a
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Sudden end!?!? (Score:5, Funny)
firefox wishlist (Score:2)
2. Store only ONE copy of a favicon if more than one bookmark uses it, bookmarks.html could do with being a lot smaller.
3. drag text down page/between tabs
Of course all of these could be made as addons, but as I have not been able to find such addons, they might as well be built in as they should represent core functionality. My final secret little dream addon is a grammar addon, oh how the net could be a better place
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But can it... (Score:5, Interesting)
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* View > Toolbars > Customise
* Drag the "Open new window" icon to your toolbar
Now you can drag a tab or the current page's favicon into the button to open it in a new window. Also works for text URLs. It shares some limitations with the keyboard trick though, in that it leaves the tab open.
Only probelm so far... (Score:2)
ooh-ooh-ooh where is my individual tab threading?? (Score:5, Interesting)
Silverlight? (Score:2)
I cannot tell since google point to old topics and rc2 "release notes" are the ff3 release notes and not rc1-> rc2 release notes.
PLUGIN AUTHORS Listen up! (Score:3, Insightful)
Acid3 (Score:2)
Re:Acid3 (Score:5, Informative)
Correct, it has been in feature freeze for quite a while and no more changes will be made to the rendering engine.
Image scaling, finally! (Score:5, Interesting)
Glad to see this is finally in Firefox. Hopefully they've fixed a couple of other annoyances I've seen; the random refusal to load pages (that load after a restart, or in other browsers), and the failure of Alt-F search to find things that I can see right in front of me on the page.
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I completely agree. The only prefs I change in FF3 are those for zoom. If I zoom in, it's typically because I can't read the text... so I'd prefer it if only the text size changed.
I just wish it was smart enough to realize that, even if I have "Zoom Text Only" selected, I want full-zoom when viewing a single image file.
To late? (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, I suck as a spelling Nazi.
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Re:Crash (Score:5, Informative)
"I Hope I Don't Have Any" (Score:2)
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Re:Read this (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Momory Issues? (Score:5, Informative)
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080317-firefox-3-goes-on-a-diet-eats-less-memory-than-ie-and-opera.html [arstechnica.com]
http://www.thebrowserworld.com/2008/03/29/firefox-30-beta-4-vs-opera-950-beta-vs-safari-31-beta-multiple-sites-opening-test/ [thebrowserworld.com]
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/26/cybernotes-browser-performance-comparisons/ [cybernetnews.com]
Memory Issues (Score:5, Interesting)
1 - Firefox 3 uses far less memory than Firefox 2.
2 - Most "memory leaks" come from poorly written extensions. Turn them all off and check out the difference.
3 - The biggest reason Firefox starts using a slew of memory after a bunch of browsing isn't a bug, but literaly a feature. It keeps fully rendered versions of pages in memory, so when you hhit the Back button, it can pull them up quicker. You can disable this feature if you want.
4 - People have this misconception that they should never use their memory. Unused memory does you no good.
5 - Next time try Google before you post a stupid quesiton.
Re:Momory Issues? (Score:5, Funny)
To clarify Mozilla's position on the matter:
Thank you for your understanding. :)
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If you're seeing that problem, it should be fixed. Could you give the URL of a page that refreshes itself and causes Firefox to use more and more memory? What OS (including version) and version of Firefox are you using? Did you try creating a ne
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- New versions force you to use new features without providing functionality to back it out even when the user wants it. Eg. The new supercoolsearchbar garbage. I don't want my browser looking though my bookmarks when I type a URL but I don't mind it searching history that clears itself regularly.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227 [mozilla.org]
Or type to addressbar about:config and search "browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped" and set it as "true"
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Re:Firefox is starting to give me the shits (Score:5, Insightful)
1. What do you mean? Yes, Firefox 3 isn't compatible with (some) Firefox 2 extensions. But then again, Firefox 3 is a whole new version... and it's still at release-candidate level. I've never had extensions break during an incremental upgrade, for instance. (If they become marked as incompatible, that's the fault of the extension author, who should have set compatibility as 2.* or whatever.)
2. I've never seen that. Normally it just downloads the incremental update and applies it on the next restart.
3. Well many of us happen to like the new functionality of the combined address-bar/search-bar. However, it's trivial to return to the old-style behavior if that's what you want (e.g. this [mozilla.org]). The same is true of most other changes. Firefox is very customizable.
4. Sorry to hear that it's unstable on your system. On the systems I use, Firefox 3 has been decidedly more stable than Firefox 2. Faster, too. From various things I've read, it sounds like the typical experience is that Firefox 3 is faster, more stable, and more robust than Firefox 2. But, as always, your mileage may vary.
5. Huh? When you try to exit, there is a single confirmation box, which can be disabled. It doesn't pop up "a thousand confirmations". Exaggerate much?
6. Huh? I've never had to re-download extensions when upgrading Firefox (even when installing a whole new version). The only time extensions re-download is when a new version of the extension is available. But... how exactly do you propose to get the new version without downloading it?
I'm sorry that you seem to be having troubles with Firefox. From what I can tell, this isn't a typical experience. Also, note that you're most welcome to keep using older versions if they suit you better.
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It's a beta/RC. You're supposed to be testing it, not using it for mission critical eBay auctions and suchlike.
I don't know about the rest of you but I kept FF2 installed alongside FF3b3-RC2. I do not jump through hoops when browsing, I go back to FF2. Yes, I miss some extensions but they are there if I feel the need to hack them about (I don't). Yes, it can be a pain when my bank doesn't support FF3rc2 but they've said they'll support FF3 final, so all is good.
Moaning f
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What's your solution here? Freeze the extension API forever? It's up to the extension developers, not Mozilla, to make sure they're compatible and mark them so. If you know what you're doing you can bypass this check, but at your own peril.
See, there's this great new search engine called Google.com, and if you go there and type "Firefox 3 disable awesomebar", the very first link describes exactly how to do that. But somehow I get the feeling you'd rather complain about it than actually take it upon yourself to do something about it.
OK, now it's painfully obvious you're either a troll or haven't been paying attention at all. Every Firefox 3 article I've read since the betas started coming out gushed over how memory management was so much better than in 2, how faster it is, etc. The Mozilla devs publicly discussed in many locations all the work they went through to find and plug memory leaks, prevent circular references in Javascript and extensions from tying up memory, etc.
Again I'm pretty sure you'd rather just complain than actually read about it but your friend Google will help you find plenty of information on this.
I can't even parse this one. You leave the tab-close confirmation on, but don't want it to confirm when you close tabs? Whatever your issue here is, I'm sure there's a setting or extension for it if you'd take 2 minutes to research.
Right-click, Save Link As...
What exactly is it about IE you would like Firefox to emulate?
And how does drivel like this get modded "Insightful"?!
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- I can't download and keep my extensions for future install. I really don't like using up bandwidth downloading the same extensions each time I install Firefox.
Yes you can. Just right-click on the .xpi file and save it somewhere, like on a flash drive. When you want to install the extension, open the .xpi via File|Open or drag the xpi onto the Add-ons window. I keep all my extensions in a special folder.
Now, maybe you meant that Firefox doesn't offer a feature specially designed for storing the xpi files somewhere to be reinstalled. I don't think there's enough demand to merit that enhancement being added. Sounds like a reasonable idea for an extension, though
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I'd add to that list that there's no way to manage plugins except to manually delete the files. iTunes has helpfully made itself a FF plugin, and the only way to stop the iTunes plugin from loading when FF launches is to either disable loading of ALL plugins, or delete the npitunes.dll file from my computer. But iTunes puts the file back every time I launch it, so that doesn't really work.
And I assume you've tried going to Tools -> Add-Ons -> Plugins and disable it? (I agree, iTunes is garbage and I don't use it so I can't test this explicitly)
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Firefox 3 added a new Plugins tab to the Add-Ons dialog. If it's not present for you, I'd suggest starting with a new profile; your old FF2 themes or extensions may be keeping it from showing for some reason...
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