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North Korea Conducts Nuclear Test 573

viyh writes "North Korea conducted a nuclear test on Monday, South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted a ruling party official as saying. A magnitude 4.7 earthquake was recorded by the USGS in North Korea. South Korean President Lee Myung-bak has called an emergency meeting of cabinet ministers over the test, Yonhap said."
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North Korea Conducts Nuclear Test

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  • by viyh ( 620825 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @08:57AM (#28082135) Homepage
    Soooo ronery....
  • by AHuxley ( 892839 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @09:10AM (#28082235) Journal
    Its a fun clip that should give slashdot readers some smiles, but
    the last line is haunting, "keep on throwing I dare you.. " []
  • by auric_dude ( 610172 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @09:12AM (#28082249) [] provides a sober view of the latest test as well as other Korean and arms control related [] topics.
  • It'll be interesting to see if this latest provocation makes Japan [] finally go nuclear [].

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Ilgaz ( 86384 )

      If they go Nuclear, you won't be able to figure it.

      Exploding nukes underground is so backwards technology or done to get attention. See the , you will see they are the documented ones. Japan has hit number 1 very easily just 2 years ago. They have companies like NEC, Hitachi and many more. They can build a super computer or use existing super computer instead of actually blowing stuff up.

      I am saying this to people who thinks just because Russia and USA doesn't blow stuff up, nukes are over. Nukes

      • by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @09:59AM (#28082705)

        I am saying this to people who thinks just because Russia and USA doesn't blow stuff up, nukes are over. Nukes just explode digitally these days which means they must be progressing way better than ''Lets blow this thing and see what it does'' ages.

        There is a difference. The nuke testing done on computers by the USA and Russia is done for purposes of maintenance of current stockpiles and was key to implementing the 1992 moratorium on testing. The simulations aren't generally about simulating explosions, they are about simulating decay and related aging of the current stockpiles so that we can know what nukes will still go boom if we launch them.

        In the US, the federal program that handles this stuff (and puts a lot of systems on the Top500 list) is ASCI - the Advanced Strategic Computing Initiative. []

  • Broken Record (Score:2, Insightful)

    by javacowboy ( 222023 )

    This whole North Korea situation sounds like a broken record.

    Every U.S. administration since Clinton has been dealing with these sorts of North Korean threats. The Republicans criticized Clinton for his handling of the situation, and they found themselves in the exact same position.

    • Excuse me... Every President since Harry Truman has had to deal with North Korea; and, every administration has criticized the previous administrations handling of issues in asia, in general.
  • by Ilgaz ( 86384 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @09:26AM (#28082385) Homepage

    Whole N Korea thing is something like a troll guy who begs for ''replies'' or getting banned until he gets the ultimate attention.

    There were no news about N Korea for a while and bam, they explode a nuke.

    Can a country troll? They seem to be able to do it.

  • by should_be_linear ( 779431 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @09:54AM (#28082641)
    Does this effect levels of radioactivity in air of S. Korea (or Japan, China) ?
  • A magnitude 4.7 earthquake was recorded by the USGS in North Korea.

    If memory serves their last couple tests didn't generate much of a yield. But that big of tremor likely indicates they have overcome that problem. They got it working now.


  • China. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Starker_Kull ( 896770 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @10:08AM (#28082817)
    When China finally wakes up and realizes that having a somewhat unstable next door neighbor armed with nukes is a bad idea, this sort of thing will stop - North Korea survives only because China keeps giving them tons of aid.

    Perhaps the North Koreans are interested in China's continued aid supplies over the long term? As in, after they get a credible, deliverable weapon, 'If you stop the gravy train, we take out Hong Kong, even if we're glass 8 minutes later. That whole "we don't like the west" thing was just so you would let us build nukes.'

    I really don't get China's motivations. Once the nuclear genie is out, they won't be able to stuff it back in. It's like the U.S.A. helping Haiti to get nukes because they don't like Cuba. Does it not occur to the Chinese govt. that once North Korea has a real nuclear capability, they could aim it anywhere they so wished?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by CodeBuster ( 516420 )
      Never happen. China may publicly chide their vassal, as a parent would a child, but as long as the North Koreans continue to secretly take their marching orders from Beijing the Chinese will not give up their useful lackey. Think of it like an attention button which the Chinese can press at any time in order to draw the attention towards North Korea and away from whatever the Chinese wish to do while our collective attention is averted.
  • by MrKaos ( 858439 ) on Monday May 25, 2009 @10:16AM (#28082927) Journal
    Otherwise the response to them would make North Korea cease to exist, they must know this. It was a 20 Kiloton device, since their last test yielded much less than that it's safe to say that the 'technology improvements' that they claim can be read as 'we finally got it working'. It's a '60's technology nuke.

    It's not good, but all this means is North Korea can't be invaded, and who would want to? Altruism is not a good enough reason to sacrifice troops in a country that would be prepared to use Nukes against an invader. The leadership is weak and in a time of turmoil. I'm fairly certain that Kim Yong-il suffered a stroke recently so he can't lead the country there forever so someone has to replace him. They will inherit a country with weapons, but no bread. How sad for the North Korean people.

    So while the leadership of North Korea is at it's weakest, it beats it's chest with it's weapons forcing improving their position of bargaining. This can be summarised with the wisdom of Sun Tzu: "the clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him." and the North Korean leadership is doing the opposite of "masking strength with weakness is to be effected by tactical dispositions."

    They are masking weakness with strength.

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