How Heavy Is the Internet? 174
An anonymous reader writes "Ever wondered how much the internet physically weighs? 498,438,559,990kg, according to CNET. To reach this figure, they added together public data on the weight of every computer, server and connecting cable. To this they added 6,075,000kg of iPhones, and over 6,800,000kg of Blackberries. Finally, they added the weight of 287,524 viruses and 85 billion+ webpages."
OOOPS! (Score:2)
I just typed something, and made it heavier than that!
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Sorry for this lame thought: One day, long after it as it becomes self-aware, the Internet will collapse under it's own weight into a black hole, becoming the creator of a whole new universe.
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Read:
"The Last Question" by Isaac Asimov
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html [multivax.com]
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Slightly heavier then... (Score:5, Funny)
"How Heavy Is the Internet?"
Slightly heavier then the total weight of the worlds useless journalists.
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"How Heavy Is the Internet?"
Slightly heavier then the total weight of the worlds useless journalists.
Can't agree more, it's worse to be the guy who actually makes this research though.
Re:Slightly heavier then... (Score:5, Funny)
What a fucked up metric. That's like asking "how red is 7?" or "what's the personality of a grapefruit?"
Re:Slightly heavier then... (Score:5, Funny)
"how red is 7?"
Just about half, assuming 4 bits per channel.
"what's the personality of a grapefruit?"
Bitter.
Re:Slightly heavier then... (Score:4, Interesting)
Top half or bottom?
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She said you don't understand what I said
I said no no no you're wrong
When I was a boy everything was right everything was right
Re:Slightly heavier then... (Score:5, Funny)
What a fucked up metric. That's like asking "how red is 7?" or "what's the personality of a grapefruit?"
Your momma is so fat, her circumference is 3.1415 internets.
/idleispants
Re: That's like asking "how red is 7?" (Score:2)
That's not nearly as f'ed up as you might think. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapheme-color_synesthesia [wikipedia.org]
Ask enough people and I'm sure you can actually come to an appropriate answer to the question of just how red the number 7 is.
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A looser isn't tighter, obviously.
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Not just Iphones! Ignorance from CNET (Score:2)
iPhones and Blackberries
Talking of which, I'm saddened to see yet another media outlet pushing the myth that the only Internet phones in existence are the Iphone and the Blackberry (although I suppose we should be grateful they at least acknowledge the existence of the Blackberry, and don't pretend that the Iphone is the only phone in existence). Together they only make up a few per cent of the total figure. If they wanted to just pick on one set of phones, they should have chosen Nokias at 40% of the marke
Not to mention (Score:2)
the users...
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And CowboyNeal accounts for half of all that user weight.
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So, nobody's really sure if he exists or is just a math error?
It doesn't weigh anything (Score:1, Insightful)
0 lbs, 0 kgs. Duh. The internet doesn't weigh anything.
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Argh, hit submit too soon. Reference: IT Crowd [youtube.com]
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But there are no wires or anything...
It's WIRELESS!!
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I LOVE that episode and was gonna post it but figure there had to be at least one person who'd beat me to it. Thanks
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whoa dude... that's heavy
Actually, that's massive.
4.888 petanewtons (PN), now that's heavy.
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Uh, make that 4.888 teranewtons (TN).
"Gee, that's really heavy, Tennessee."
"Come along, Chumley. Time to go see Mr. Whoopee."
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The above comment has zero intellectual weight (Score:1)
Or less, if it is possible to have negative intellectual weight.
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Negative mass gets kind of weird [wikipedia.org], though.
Don't be silly. (Score:5, Funny)
The internet doesn't weigh anything [youtube.com].
idleispants (Score:4, Insightful)
Why isn't this in idle?
If it's supposed to be serious, you have to amortize the weight of the equipment over its uses. A desktop that spends half its use playing solitaire, 1/4 of its use surfing the web, and 1/4 of its use spamming the world under viral control only counts for half.
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Why isn't this in idle?
If it's supposed to be serious, you have to amortize the weight of the equipment over its uses. A desktop that spends half its use playing solitaire, 1/4 of its use surfing the web, and 1/4 of its use spamming the world under viral control only counts for half.
If you're weighing traffic, sure. I figured they were weighing connectivity - an analogous question might be, "how much does your corporate network weigh?" Being part of a network doesn't require actually using it
Of course, you'd still have to decide whether/how to amortize time spent off the network (e.g. computer is off, phone is outside of data plan area, etc).
why equipment? (Score:2)
I'm wondering why the measurement is with the equipment at all. 'The Internet' isn't so much the hardware it's being run on, is it?
Wouldn't do much good if that hardware wasn't moving bits and bytes around.
So perhaps the question should be... how much data traffic is there for 'the internet' and, by splitting that up into electrons and photons (presuming wireless signals have no mass), how much does that weigh.
I wonder if that could actually end up being an appreciable amount if measured over the course of
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And if it's a wikipedia, digg, slashdot, or other popular server, then you need to multiply.
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A desktop that spends half its use playing solitaire, 1/4 of its use surfing the web, and 1/4 of its use spamming the world under viral control only counts for half.
But isn't the weight for the machines holding public data? So your desktop isn't even addable unless it's sharing something.
Some things that may be considered: what does it take to pack it all up in boxes and carry it to another place in case the Earth/free world is no longer a viable place to host the Internet? A sense of the mining and manufac
They forgot.... (Score:2)
To add the weight of all the Tubes and Dump Trucks!
Rosie O'Donnell still has it beat. (Score:3, Funny)
Chevy (Score:2)
Seriously though this is the shit
Weight Distribution (Score:2)
When I saw the headline (Score:2)
Something this heavy... (Score:2)
Something this heavy... must be slow, right? Slow like this slow news day maybe? ... What do you mean, it's constantly getting faster? Are you nuts?
That number needs updating. (Score:2)
I've just removed the watercooling system on my PC so the internet weighs 10KG less now.
So its exactly 498,438,559,980kg now.
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Fat PC Guy - I'm on a diet because the Internet weighs too much.
Fat Mac Guy - I'm eating thirty twinkies a minute because the Internet needs more weight!
Trim Linux Guy - I think I'm going to puke.
Malnourished OpenSolaris Guy - When is someone going to drop off some crates of food.
Outdated Amiga Guy - I remember when we grew up in a hole in the road and our ol' dad used to come and kill us before breakfast.
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>> Outdated Amiga Guy - I remember when we grew up in a hole in the road and our ol' dad used to come and kill us before breakfast.
You had a WHOLE hole to yourselves AND had breakfast? I hate snobs.
Our dad used to wake us up 4 hours before we went to bed just so we could work 28 hour days. Life was hard but we where happy.
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No wonder. I thought I sensed a few less 1's out there.
What a useless question (Score:5, Funny)
I suppose I could get a start on that by running VMs of the most popular OSs, and examining snapshots of each one, multiplying that by... oh, and do the same with backbone traffic... be a bit of a pain to handle all the embedded stuff, but in principle... well, in principle, the internet could be represented as a single number. I wonder if it's odd or even. I guess it depends on who has the last bit.
Ooops, time to takes me pills again.
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That's a really good question. I'm betting that it's more nothing than something. But I wonder if the nothing is as big compared to the something as things are to the void.
We are Atlantis.
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Let me save you some time:
it's 50% 1, 50% 0, and 50% i.
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"Library of Congress" is a measure of information (bits, bytes)
What you want is, oh, I don't know, some massive object. LoC does not have a well defined mass (do you mean just the books? What about the CDs? Digital stuff? The whole building?)
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Your Internet (Score:2)
No (Score:5, Funny)
Ever wondered how much the internet physically weighs?
No.
And, oddly, even after someone else has asked the question, I still don't.
How heavy is the Internet (Score:2)
Well, I don't know about you guys but I actually get asked this question quite often. Just the other day I was in a board meeting when my CEO turned to me and whispered in my ear "Do you know how heavy the internet is?" I didn't know the answer and ended up looking like a fool.
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Just the other day I was in a board meeting when my CEO turned to me and whispered in my ear "Do you know how heavy the internet is?"
He's not the internet, he's my brother.
Amazing precision (Score:2)
What about the colos? (Score:2)
Given their methodology, you'd better add the weight of all the colocation facilities. That's a heap of concrete, lead-acid batteries, flywheels, generators, steel supports and cabinets, etc.
It's a good thing.. (Score:2)
It is a good thing they didn't try to calculate the amount of power used and how much it adds to global warming.. They may decide to shut it down tomorrow.
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It is a good thing they didn't try to calculate the amount of power used...
An informed estimate of the power consumption of the internet [uclue.com] was 868 billion kWh per year in 2007.
are they counting stupid stuff on monitors (Score:2)
like the Dogberts and "beatings will continue" buttons and mirrors to see the boss coming up behind you?
add another 300,000 Kg at least.
did they add E/c^2? (Score:2)
E = mc^2, hence m = E/c^2. How much energy is there in a running computer compared to one switched off? Convert to mass, multiply by the number of computers on the internet to get... well, yet another meaningless figure, but it might be fun to estimate.
Not weight (Score:2)
Based on this estimate (Score:1)
The internet gained about 6 billion pounds after the release of Windows Vista, due to all the additional beefier systems needing to be purchased in place of older systems.
It's far time the Internet went on a diet.
Oh WTF is with the supposition that Viruses or web pages "weigh" something?
It's already factored in by the weight of the hard drives of internet connected PCs... actually, that counts free disk space too.
Technically.. the entire weight of the PC is not all attributable to the Internet.
Fo
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Netbooks would have been a diet, except Microsoft fucked everything up.
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The next stupid question:
How long is the Internet?
How wide is the internet?
and then calculate the area of the internet using standard units like football fields, or states of texas.
The weight of a virus (Score:2)
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When a bit pattern is stored on a magnetic medium, there is a certain energy associated with it due to the interactions of neighboring magnetic fields. Two opposed magnetic domains exert a force on each other. This force is caused by the presence of a magnetic field. This magnetic field entails a certain quantity of potential energy. E = mc^2. Thus, a bit pattern in fact has mass due to the intrinsic energy of its magnetic fields.
The mass is maximum for an alternating pattern of bits, i.e. 101010101.... and
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An energy potential has weight now? I don't think that's exactly what's meant by mass-energy equivalence.
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> I don't think that's exactly what's meant by mass-energy equivalence.
It is exactly what is meant by mass-energy equivalence.
Not as heavy as its users! (Score:2)
*thank you* *thank you* - Don't forget to tip the waitress on the way out!
Made me wonder (Score:2)
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'How much does the Earth weigh?'
Nothing, although you could carry it to Uranus and weigh it there, I guess.
Units (Score:2)
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~27.5 million dump trucks (+/-2%:) worth.
Which sadly is easily filled with last years equipment...
don't be silly (Score:2)
The Internet doesn't weigh anything. [youtube.com] Just ask the Elders of the Internet!
The internet has no weight... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Data does have mass:
http://scottkurowski.com/massbit/index.htm [scottkurowski.com]
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Thank you!!!
I came to read this posting thinking there would be some great discussion on the weight of information. What's the difference in weight between a full hard drive and an empty hard drive for instance, and what can qualify as empty (since it's possible having a series of alternating 1s and 0s is lighter than pure 0s for instance... I wouldn't know) .. point being, that there is a difference between the average drive containing random or "no" bits encoded on it, and one that does actually contain
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The internet is a mass of data interconnected by address. Data is not an object, but the status of variables. Data has no more weight than any other abstract concept.
WHAT!? I thought the internet was a series of tubes. :-/
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Well, data = information = entropy. What's the minimum amount of energy required (in theory) to store a single bit of data?
It's probably not zero. Therefore data does actually have energy, i.e. mass.
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Well, that's the question. Is it really so? (This is an interesting quantum-mechanical conundrum, to which I don't know the answer).
Oh shit! (Score:2)
If it gets much heavier the Earth might sink!!
Hard to give this any creditability (Score:2)
Finally, they added the weight of 287,524 viruses
When they make a statement like this, when no weight can be assigned to a computer virus, they pretty much completely discredit themselves.
The question is, do they include the users weight? (Score:2)
I hope not :(
498,438,559,990kg?? (Score:2)
That's a very precise figure for something that's just a rough estimate!
Surely "around 500,000,000 tonnes" is a better way to put it?
About 105% of (Score:2)
the weight of the porn it carries.
Sorry to ask but ... (Score:2)
how much is this in vw beetles exactly?
if that's impossible it's also possible to get it in library of congress units, that might be easier to remember..
Cloud (Score:2)
How heavy is a cloud?
You've got your answer. /mesnickers
Wrong, both mathematically and conceptually (Score:2)
This is grossly inaccurate.
Mathematically speaking, how the holy hell did they get almost 500 billion kg? Those numbers add up to less than 25 billion kg (24,692,195,430 kg, to be exact).
Conceptually, they both included things they shouldn’t have and omitted things they should have included.
Devices which connect to the internet and suck information from it should not be included. Getting groceries from the grocer doesn’t make you a grocer yourself. Get rid of the personal computers and mobile de
Hi, I'm a mac truck (Score:1)
and I'm a pc, and we're here to*BOOM then silence as mac truck turns John Hodgson into a pancake*
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Or the e-anus you have it stuck in.
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Actually, when talking weight, you want teranewtons.
498438559990 kg * 9.80662 N/kg = 4.88800 TN