Google Preps Instant Search For Chrome 8 128
An anonymous reader writes "Google is apparently playing with a nifty integration of instant search inside of its Chrome browser. Typing in the URL bar will automatically bring up a search page, while URLs apparently can be completed much faster as well. It seems as if Google isn't running out of ideas for its browser anytime soon."
I hope there's a way to turn this off (Score:3, Insightful)
I would be worried, as I use Chrome at work, about searching for "po"..."st office". I mean, that term among many others.
There's always increased traffic usage, though I doubt that affects work much. I wonder also if they'll push this on the page where you have to choose a search engine (when you install it). "If you use google, you get this feature too."
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I mean really, no one actually goes out and searches for pornography! Google just puts it there when you accidentally mistype something.
You gotta be carful!
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"And now here's a site Google thinks you'll really like."
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Likely the same place you turn off the suggestion service in the current Chrome: Options->Under the Hood.
Amazes me that people cry about Google knowing what URLs you type in because of this and are too ignorant to turn it off. Sure, it'd be good if it were off by default, but I'm quite happy as long as there is an *option*.
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But then again, if they just made it so you can't turn it off, it would happen to everyone, so nobody would be getting embarrassed by it happening.
This would have the side benefit of giving you the "Google MADE me do it" excuse if you were ever caught browsing things you shouldn't have been at work. Just make sure they don't see you have 5 other tabs with equally suspicious titles.
Re:I hope there's a way to turn this off (Score:5, Informative)
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You turn it off by using firefox search bar.
In terms of usability, of a single text field and submit button, it's down hill from now on.
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or god forbid an Anal-yzer, power.
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PS: Don't write illegal things into a form on a modern website? Anyone halfway decent with computers should know websites can always log that sort of information.
Awesome Bar? (Score:2, Insightful)
So it's going to be like the annoying Awesome Bar that was implemented in Firefox?
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People are still whining about that?
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I've got a cheat for you: Use the search engine list to make shortcuts! I created a Slashdot entry with the URL being slashdot.org. then I gave it the keyword "sd". Now I just hit sd and enter and Slashdot is pulled up immediately! You could use single letters if you prefer, but I have multiple shortcuts (GoogleMail, HotMail, etc) so its easier to use two letters for me.
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I created a Slashdot entry with the URL being slashdot.org. then I gave it the keyword "sd". Now I just hit sd and enter and Slashdot is pulled up immediately!
Or you could use a perhaps more appropriate keyword for slashdot:
/.
Just sayin'.
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Re:GM (Score:2)
GM Called. They want their searches back.
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Mine comes up with sinkmyship.com, so that's out. But it is'nt really complicated at all; keyword shortcuts are easy to set up for the power they offer. If you are using an actual search engine you type in the keyword and the search terms. that's it. If I want to search slashdot, ebay, craigslist, or any other standard search engine easy and often then setting the keyword to something simple is the best way to go. Check it out for yourself, just right click on the address bar...
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But the Awesome bar IS awesome. by remembering a few keytstrokes, you can reach any page previously visited. It really IS progress if you actually try to use it. Actually, now that Firefox 4 has effectively killed plugin backwards compatibility, the Awesome Bar is the only thing that keeps me from moving to Chrome.
Yep, keep giving me (Score:1)
So they want our complete URL history? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:So they want our complete URL history? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:So they want our complete URL history? (Score:4, Informative)
The interesting thing about Google Instant is that it was really a vehicle for Google to permanently enable Search Suggestions.
Previously on their webpage search options, you could turn suggestions on or off.
Now that dialog has been replaced with Google Instant on/off. Turning it off leaves you with the old style suggestions enabled (no way to disable). That, in turn, allows them to track everything you type. Don't be evil indeed.
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Holy smokes, you are right. Where is EPIC and the EFF in all of this? This is far more insidious than I realized. Right now the only solution that I know of is to shut off javascript for www.google.com or use a menubar search in a non-chrome browser (with suggestions off)
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Yes AFTER I hit not every letter I type into the search field.
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ERRRRR, AFTER I hit <Google Search>
(plain old text is just that plain old text)
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Or just disable javascript for google.com
Huh? (Score:2)
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Because Google is doing it.
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Chrome already does search-from-bar and live suggestions. What this does is put live search *results* over the page you're currently looking at. It's a browser extension of how google's .com search page works now. While it isn't a revolutionary feature, as far as I know nobody else has implemented it.
Features (Score:5, Interesting)
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I love Chrome, and don't miss Firefox at all (and especially don't miss my system being brought to its knees by the constant memory leaks that seemingly can't be fixed)
On some systems Chrome has a memory overrun problem when you start chrome (it wants to use all the ram and then proceeds to use all of the swap). At least Firefox's memory leak takes hours.
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Things like "Print Preview" and "Properties" when you right-click an image come to mind.
If you'd like to see those implemented, please star/comment on these bugs:
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9278
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Considering how long Microsoft has given up on I.E., how stagnant Firefox is, and how much trouble Opera has been as of late, it's nice to see a developer that's actually pushing forward with browser development.
Chrome is all of 2 years old. Recent "bloat" includes plug-ins and a show all downloads page. Keeping their browser synchronized with how their home page handles searching doesn't seem like bloat to me at all.
I don't know. I want those whiz-bang features, if they're actually useful. I want a rea
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Firefox has been rock solid and the memory leaks appear to be fixed for quite some time.
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I love Chrome, , but I wish they would focus less on whiz-bang features, and focus more on filling in the gaps in the core features. Things like "Print Preview" and "Properties" when you right-click an image come to mind.
http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/#enable-print-preview [peter.sh]
There is already a work in progress with a Chrome 7 switch for "Print Preview". The Chromium team doesn't recommend enabling these, but I've used a couple of them and have found them to be really useful. You just have only yourself to blame if something crashes.
I feel these are definitely worth looking at if you have the skills to enable them.
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Same here. But my work policy doesn't let me use Chrome. They cite 'security reasons'. Firefox is ok though.
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Just use links and gvim and never look back. Hell throw away the whole window manager and just stick with vim instead. It's not like you need those extra UI elements taking up your precious CPU cycles, right?
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Damn Luddite. Why are you on a tech site bitching about tech? Upgrade your damn 486.
Seroously. What is with the Luddites on this site?
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What is with the naming convention for Chrome? I mean have there been eight successive major releases of Chrome since we are already at Chrome 8? Why not just call it Chrome and leave the version off the name?
Which is exactly what Google are doing! Can you find a reference to the version number on www.google.com/chrome [google.com] ? Are there pop-ups informing you that the new version is available? See! By the way, the current stable version is 6. They announced a while ago that they will reduce the time between major releases to around 6 weeks. So expect the stable version of Chrome 8 in the beginning of December. In a nutshell: the Chrome version number is really mostly used internally.
Correct Me... (Score:1)
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Firefox doesn't phone home the urls to a server; it just searches your local browser history.
Slow down (Score:2)
Chrome 8? I'm still on Chromium 5 apparently, and it's from this year!
Java (Score:2)
At least Google isn't as bad as Sun.
One day I was on Java 1.4, and then next thing you know, POOF, I'm on Java 5!
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I cannot tell you how annoying I used to find this as a newbie to Java. The Java world has enough twisty confusions without unnecessary extra ones.
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Are there any aspects of Java that aren't unnecessarily complicated?
Go try and tell a computer newbie what JRE is, its relation to Java, and why they need to install it.
Nifty is a relative term... (Score:4, Interesting)
Plus Chrome has other neat features, like when I type the URL of a site I have searched before, you can search that site again by pressing tab, so I don't need to have a bunch of different search boxes for different sites like I do in Firefox. Anyway, I guess I'll reserve my judgement until it's actually implemented, maybe they'll do it in a way that isn't too irksome or distracting.
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But at the very least it should be easy to turn off. I mean, I currently use the search bar as a calculator occasionally, and I'm going to be pretty pissed if chrome decides to overwrite my current webpage with a search for a calculation.
Works on passwords too! (Score:4, Interesting)
Hey! Did you know if you type in your root password into the search bar, it can list your computer in the search results?
It works on Slashdot too... see, here's mine: ********
/ accidentally his password in the google search bar the other day
// it's different now
Re:Works on passwords too! (Score:5, Funny)
You accidentally the whole password into the search bar?
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The URL www.hunter2.com can not be found.
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I think that's why the recommendation is not to have a two character password, and not to use a dictionary word if you do...
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Hey! Did you know if you type in your root password into the search bar, it can list your computer in the search results?
That would explain why there are about 1,050,000 results for hunter2 on Google.
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Re:Not good ideas, tho (Score:4, Insightful)
I find it useful for refining results.
[Dominant concept] [sub concept 1] [sub concept 2] [refining concept 1] [refining concept 2] [additional info 1] [additional info 2]
Start typing. If you don't see what you're looking for, keep typing. Add terms and refinements. Keep going. Running 4 separate searches to find what you're looking for is slow. Seeing how you need to change your query to shape your results in realtime can be helpful.
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Start typing. If you don't see what you're looking for, keep typing. Add terms and refinements.
Sounds like a good idea, but you can't trust it.
I forget where I saw it, probably here on slashdot. Trying searching for the book the "wisdom of whores" - the instant search stuff won't complete at all - it is as if there are no hits. Do a "real" search for wisdom of whores [google.com] and you get a bunch of hits - the first is the author's blog and the second is the amazon page for the book.
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Yes. They have an adult filter on certain keywords. Enter one of those keywords, and you have to actually hit the enter key. This is pretty clear while you're typing, though, as all entries disappear and "press enter to search" comes up. So it isn't any slower than the traditional way where you have to hit enter for each search.
Do note that you can find the book if you type in "Wisdom of Elizabeth Pisani" without hitting enter, as Elizabeth is the author. So it's more of a keyword search than a content
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Yes. They have an adult filter on certain keywords. Enter one of those keywords, and you have to actually hit the enter key. This is pretty clear while you're typing, though, as all entries disappear and "press enter to search" comes up. So it isn't any slower than the traditional way where you have to hit enter for each search.
For me, the "press enter to search" fades in after a few seconds. If you start backspacing before then you might miss it. Plus, its not obvious what's going on - if it (immediately) said "press enter to search without adult filter" or "completion stopped by SafetySearch" or even provided a way to turn off the filter like they do in other parts of google with the &safe=off URL parameter or a cookie for those who "log in" then I'd be less critical.
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We're working on it! Coming soon*
* soon is between 4 and 7 years.
Search bar as temporary area (Score:2, Interesting)
It wouldn't be very fun if the page I was looking at suddenly vanished to be replaced by a search page, just because I was trying to crystallize my thoughts for a second. Of course I really should be using a separate editor for transient notes but it seems so co
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I use the run box for this. Just press WinKey+R. Or, you know, Notepad.
I actually do a combination of your suggestions. I have Autohotkey installed and mapped WinKey+N to run Notepad++. Combined with the autosave plugin you can type whatever comes to mind without fear of losing it.
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This makes the notepad solution pretty much impossible. Since opening any editor at all will either go full-screen, or take up a large portion of the screen if I resize it.
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I use the Windows address bar for this (and for file paths - I don't think I've ever used them for URLs though since Chrome is so much faster). Anyone know of any good alternatives for Ubuntu?
Missing feature (Score:3, Interesting)
Okay, my Chrome pet peeve here.
Let's say you open a bunch of background tabs while reading a page. One of the tabs doesn't load for whatever reason, when it times out, instead of putting the attempted URL in the address bar it leaves some kind of about:blank internal page that tells you what happened. That's great, thanks for the info, now click refresh. Nope, the page is gone forever. Go back to the first page and hunt through the links comparing them against the loaded tabs and hopefully you find the one you wanted.
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Maybe this is a problem with release versions? Chrome 7 gives you a link on the page which you may click to refresh.
New features (Score:2)
I love new features! I love new features with an off switch even more!
Too easy to embarass (Score:2)
Today, my boss called me into his office to show me the web site of a potential business partner. When he began to type 'virginia' into google, it auto-completed his search with his recent search for 'virgin boy assholes'. I have to go on business trip with him tomorrow. I'm a young guy. FML
Taken from #36396 [fmylife.com]
Technically true (Score:4, Insightful)
" It seems as if Google isn't running out of ideas for its browser anytime soon"...
That's true, but they are running out of good ideas.
How about real performance fixes instead? (Score:2)
Really? (Score:1, Redundant)
People really care about this?
Put me down as Who Cares.
I love Chrome but (Score:2)
I really wish they would focus on having the search bar offer good options from the browsing history and not from Google searches. Firefox's awsomebar is the last advantage Firefox has over Chrome, IMO. In FF I can easily get back to pages I use often or search my bookmarks through the address bar and the results are instantaneous while on Chrome searching the history is slow and half of the result are Google suggest results which are just not useful.
CyberSearch anyone? (Score:1)
Even Slashdot users don't know about CyberSearch? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7931/ [mozilla.org] or http://cybernetnews.com/cybersearch/ [cybernetnews.com] . This has been public at AMO since June 2008 and at their site earlier than that.... Granted, this one really ought to be built into Firefox (like Tree Style Tab) so more know about it, since it's not just a niche use.
One particularly handy tip you might miss about the add-on: type "^" and then your search term to instantly search the site already loaded in the s
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Higher priority fixes (Score:2)
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FYI: If you copy the entire URL from the URL bar you get the http:/// [http] added back on.
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No, but it wants to be! Oh, hold on, that's something else.