Google Names Winners For Summer of Code 2011 84
akgraner writes "Google has announced the accepted projects list for its 2011 Google Summer of Code (GSOC) Program. Ryan Rix emailed the Fedora announce mailing list to let users know Fedora was one of the projects that had been selected, while Daniel Holbach informed Ubuntu users via his blog that Ubuntu had not been selected."
Why not? (Score:1)
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My guess would be Canonical's copyright assignment requirements for many of their projects. Copyright assignment != free software... or even open source software.
Re:Why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
Copyright assignment != free software
Which is why the Free Software Foundation does it?
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What about your "not even open source" comment? If the source is available to read, it's "open source".
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You're thinking of Free software [wikipedia.org], not open source. Open source just means the source is open (to anyone, not just governments..). It doesn't necessarily grant you a license to use that source in any projects that you want to distribute.
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Hmm. I guess I was thinking of MS's "Shared Source [wikipedia.org]", which includes 2 OSI certified licenses, but 3 more restrictive licenses. I'd still be wary even of anything that Microsoft has released under an "open source" license..
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A good varied list... (Score:2)
There's a great variety of projects in there. Everything from serious academic theorem provers [in.tum.de] to even more serious things like helping people play Monkey Island [scummvm.org]
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Haiku [haiku-os.org] and ReactOS [reactos.org] both made it this year!
Two of my favorite alternative OS projects... :D
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HaikuOS and ReactOS are great. Don't forget AROS and others as well.
Many people pirate Windows not knowing of alternatives that are free and open source. Why pirate Windows when HaikuOS and ReactOS are available? FreeDOS and Linux are great as well for free and open source alteratives.
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Scientific projects:
Excellent to see scientific stuff like OPeNDAP get in there. (The stats on Freshmeat show that it's not a particularly well-known project, but it's an important one for distributed data.) Globus (a fascinating package for developing grids) also made it. Climate Code Foundation, Genome Informatics, the Marine Biological Laboratory and CERN have also had projects accepted, boding well for a boost to seriously complex computing. Not only that, but internships on heavy-duty projects may well
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besides who gives a fuck about a bunch of chinks anyway?
1/3rd of the world population isn't enough to make you care?
How about that debt the USA owes them like you said? Or maybe the fact that mostly everything cheap we buy is made by them. Or maybe that Asia is general has more technologically advanced cities than any part of the USA. I could go on forever; my point is, they already are a force to care about.
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Intentional fallacies, misdirected offtopic discussions, and vague posts which try to sound smart but fall flat at the punchline? In my Slashdot?
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"It's more likely than you think."
Gnome (Score:5, Insightful)
I see Gnome got accepted. Now maybe they can finally afford to add minimize and maximize to the Gnome 3 shell.
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So the entire interface should work with a one-button mouse?
Re:Gnome (Score:4, Interesting)
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Futile. He's not able not read your second sentence about consulting a doctor.
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There are indeed two winners - the users and the developers.
Projects for Android (Score:2)
I would like to see projects that would specifically improve the Android experience for users.
As we all might now know, Android 3.0 got the not-so-appealing [unplggd.com] label as one OS that by interpretation, was born a bit early. Projects that could address this prematurity would be welcome for Android.
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Good. Ubuntu was slowing down progress. (Score:1)
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And this attitude is exactly why Linux will never become remotely mainstream. Mucking around with code, recompiling stuff, etc, might inflate your linux ego, but it is going to turn away 90+% of computer users. Making a good OS doesn't have to mean one or the other. It just means building something that works seamlessly on the "clicky-clicky" level while hiding more powerful options in the background, but leaving them in for power users to play with. Ubuntu has done a lot for linux adoption and popularity, despite such snooty opinions of linux geeks such as yourself.
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Linux isn't dominating the server software market because Ubuntu hid the console from consumers and made their webcam work instantly.
Linux dominates the server software market because Windows sucked huge nuts for a couple of decades (I gave up on it long before Windows 7, so I can't speak of current Windows technology, but I'm guessing you don't disagree) and Unix vendors charged massive fees and oftentimes would only sell you the OS if you bought their big iron. It was a market ripe for plucking, and Linux did it quite easily. It even took IBM a few years to pick up on the trend, port their profitable software systems to run on it, an
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Linux dominates the server software market because Windows sucked huge nuts for a couple of decades (I gave up on it long before Windows 7, so I can't speak of current Windows technology, but I'm guessing you don't disagree)
The modern Windows Server comes in a "core" version, which only has a command-line shell, no UI. How's that?
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no UI
Damn it I seem to be missing a "G".
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I agree but also disagree.
Trying to emulate Windows will only ever produce a second-rate Windows (because the original will always be ahead of you by definition). That can't really let Linux become mainstream, because nobody is going to want second-rate. The only way Linux can become acceptable on the mainstream is to do things differently. It's why Apple still exists at all - if MacOS or OS/X were mere clones of Windows, Apple would be long-dead. They hold a small but very respectable market share because
Ubuntu (Score:2)
Not trying to start a troll war but is there any particular reason why Ubuntu was omitted. There seems to be far too many slots open (not that it's a bad thing), why can't they have squeezed in one more?
Daniel Holbach's blog post [holba.ch] doesn't say much. To be sure, all my favorite apps (!store) are represented, including Blender, Abiword, Scribus, GnuCash, and VLC (as Videolan). Aside from Fedora, other distros represented include Debian, OpenSuSa, Gentoo, FreeBSD, and NetBSD (but not OpenBSD unless my eyes have
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My best guess was because debian is in there, and being upstream of ubuntu maybe they figured the improvements would trickle down? (that's my *best* guess)
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OpenBSD rarely applies to the GSoC. For it to be worthwhile, the project needs to have some existing contributors who are students. Without that, the mentor ends up spending so much time mentoring that they could have just written the code in the first place (I've mentored three GSoC students, with varying levels of success). I think Owain is the only person regular OpenBSD contributor who might meet this requirement, and he could probably get the funding under the X.org umbrella.
Blender (Score:5, Informative)
If you are a talented coder who has an interested in graphics; simulation; animation; painting; video editing; digital compositing; game engines; AI; or just about anything else related to 3D animation; video editing and compositing; or games you might consider applying for Blender.
Here is a preliminary list of ideas, we are open to suggestions (in general only half of the proposals we recieve are items on the list) especially if it is something that you worked on for a school project.
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Dev:Ref/GoogleSummerOfCode/2011/Ideas [blender.org]
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I would strongly advise against it, that guy is a total ass: he smokes cigars, drinks beer and picks the pockets of other contributers. Also he's known to fork projects and start on his own, with blackjack and hookers.
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I suggested to the Blender folks that they might want to look at elastons [aps.org], as animation is a key area for Blender but they didn't have many ideas for how to improve it. Got no response and they didn't update their page, but I still think it'd be a worthy extension that could very well be helpful in their movie series (as rigid models only go so far).
Are these annual "Summers of Code" really useful? (Score:2)
As an always sceptical individual, I am inclined to ask whether all past Summers of Code have been fruitful or have produced good helpful outcomes.
To be convinced, I'd like some dude to point me to specific results that past Summers of Code have yielded...My hope is to see useful tangible results. I anxiously await. Thanks.
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Re:Are these annual "Summers of Code" really usefu (Score:5, Informative)
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Surely some fraction of the participants have been happy with the money that they received.
Re:Are these annual "Summers of Code" really usefu (Score:5, Informative)
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For some projects, they are very useful. For other projects, not so much. I think Google has gotten better at sussing out which ones will bear fruit, and which ones wont. As for Ubuntu, if anything upstream of Debian gets accepted, then Ubuntu benefits. Fedora primarily benefits only when RedHat puts out code, so they may need it more (but I don't know exact details, I'm not Google and I didn't decide). I'm thinking of at least one project (Blender), and the GSOC projects usually get incorporated, alth
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Yes it is helpful, in our case most of the code produced under the GSoC program is good and welcome, and the program does have other benefits, like the chocolate party at the mentor summit (this is the real reason we get to apply). More eyes on the source code, and in many instances mentors have donated their mentorships (500$) to their own projects, which means GSoC is another venue of income for FOSS projects. For instance, a student has contacted us after the program finished because he wants his GSoC wo
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Specifically, my X.org student last year did some great work in the r300g Gallium driver for Mesa, and is still a developer in the project to this day. There's a single success story. I'm sure the other several thousand success stories will be along shortly.
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The success rates vary from year to year, but last year we (Crystal Space) had 6 successful students, all of whom had their code integrated into trunk development very shortly after GSoC ended.
I don't think you can totally judge success from how the mentoring organisation benefited however. Imo the main point of GSoC is to give students experience in working with/on open source projects. There were a few discussions on this at the GSoC mentor summit last year, I think a lot of people (not really orgs, just
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Here's the project I worked on for GSoC 2010:
http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/gsoc/2010/scxml-js/ [apache.org]
I haven't done a stable release yet, due to some process overhead with Apache Commons, but the project itself is pretty stable, is becoming more widely known, and I'm continuing to develop it as part of my Master thesis.
This was a project I had thought of several years ago, and the funding from GSoC finally enabled me to properly implement it. So, I think that's a success story.
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The modifications made to the forcedeth driver last year as part of the gpxe\etherboot GSOC significantly helped with my workload.
To see the contents of this list you should enable (Score:1)
What the fuck? "To see the contents of this list you should enable Javascript." Well fuck no! I don't trust you evil Google, and so I don't enable JS for you!
A simple table, or list, and it requires JavaScript? That's fucked up. Progressive enhancement, or graceful degradation (whichever one of these you prefer) is essential to providing an accessible, usable, and useful web. Two different design philosophies, that amount, in this case, to the same thing. If the browser is not JavaScript aware, capable, or
Huh? How come this is here just now? (Score:2)
Like...is not this last Friday's news?? Is /. slipping into a time-reality offset from our own?
Website is Google-melange.com, and wants JS? (Score:1)
The website isn't something.google.com, and it wants you to set Javascript. Is it a trap? (The worms..... the spice....)
need javascript? (Score:1)