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LulzSec Leader Sabu Unmasked, Arrested and Caught Collaborating 511

Velcroman1 writes "Law enforcement agents on two continents swooped in on top members of the infamous computer hacking group LulzSec early this morning, and acting largely on evidence gathered by the organization's brazen leader — who sources say has been secretly working for the government for months — arrested three and charged two more with conspiracy. Charges against four of the five were based on a conspiracy case filed in New York federal court, FoxNews.com has exclusively learned. An indictment charging the suspects, who include two men from Great Britain, two from Ireland and an American in Chicago is expected to be unsealed Tuesday morning in the Southern District of New York. 'This is devastating to the organization,' said an FBI official involved with the investigation. 'We're chopping off the head of LulzSec.'"
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LulzSec Leader Sabu Unmasked, Arrested and Caught Collaborating

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:42AM (#39260755)

    ...For the lulz

    • Re:Hey wait a sec (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Charges against four of the five were based on a conspiracy case filed in New York federal court

      Hey, that's a double standard!

      Whenever you have reason to think there are conspiracies within government, why you're paranoid and that's absurd, no I won't look at your evidence because that just can't be so, *plugs ears* nana nana nana I can't hear you ... we all know people with money and power are happy people with good feelings who'd never do that...

      But when government says they found a conspiracy among private individuals, why that's just law enforcement.

      • Re:Hey wait a sec (Score:5, Insightful)

        by jythie ( 914043 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:12AM (#39261083)
        Sadly, it really comes down to who you work for rather then what you are doing. If lulzsec was doing illegal work for politicians or government they would be fine. For that matter if they were doing it for profit to help a company that contracted them they would probably just get a slap on the wrist since many seem to feel that activism is less ethical then profit.. or more accurately, the more money you make the more acceptable it is.
  • by X0563511 ( 793323 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:44AM (#39260771) Homepage Journal

    mole mole mole mole! (read it like Austin Powers)

    Seriously... they scored the head of the organization as a mole? Either blatant luck, or someone knew what they were doing.

    Or option C, said head has little scruples.

    • Or they made him an offer he couldn't refuse, a la Agent Smith

    • Re:it's a mole! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by SecurityGuy ( 217807 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:05AM (#39260999)

      Or option C, said head has little scruples.

      I'm going to go out on a limb and say that any time you're involved with someone engaged in criminal enterprise, you should probably assume they're not exactly the most ethical person.

      • Re:it's a mole! (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:50AM (#39261521) Journal

        Someone who knows the difference between legality and ethics is far more trustworthy than someone who doesn't.

    • by b4dc0d3r ( 1268512 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:46AM (#39261477)

      Reading comprehension should be the next thing you learn about. They identified and arrested the guy and flipped him. The article even says that - he plead out and he became a confidential informant.

      He turned his guys over to the feds in exchange for the lulz. No wait, not for the lulz, but for lesser punishment. As previously stated, anyone simply in it for the lulz is not to be trusted. We should expect them not to be trusted, and they should have expected themselves not to be trusted.

      • by chudnall ( 514856 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @11:11AM (#39261795) Homepage Journal

        We should expect them not to be trusted, and they should have expected themselves not to be trusted.

        But they knew I wouldn't trust them - they expected that - so clearly I cannot drink from the cup in front of me.

    • Re:it's a mole! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by DurendalMac ( 736637 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @11:11AM (#39261801)
      Considering how jaw-droppingly stupid some of the Lulzsec crew were (really, hidemyass.com was one's only attempt to stay anonymous), I'm willing to bet that Sabu dun goof'd somewhere.
    • He stopped, collaborated, and listened!

  • Careful! (Score:5, Informative)

    by sattu94 ( 1989362 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:44AM (#39260785)
    This is why any kind of Hacking intent should never be combined with monetary interests. It should be left alone as a Hobby. Getting involved in Politics is dangerous, especially if you are doing something illegal. And this might as well be a set up.
    • That's kind of what I was thinking. After they raised a few eyebrows in the beginning, they could have been simply wandering through honeypots while the FBI closed in.

    • by FreeUser ( 11483 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:34AM (#39261327)

      This is why any kind of Hacking intent should never be combined with monetary interests.

      That is true, but since the source is Fox News (Rupert Mudoch), as another poster pointed out we need to take this with a huge dose of salt.

      If, however, this should turn out to be true, I find it disturbing on so many levels. Is anyone reminded of 1984 at all? The government running an underground resistence organization, to attract and arrest "revolutionaries." I'm not a fan of lulzsec at all, but this story, if at all true, is one of the more overtly Orwellian things I've seen, and living in an age of Orwellian behavior, with western democracies perched on the precipice of right-wing fascism, the middle east largely given over to their brand of sectarian fascism, and authoritarianism on the rise in Russia, China, and elsewhere, that is saying a lot.

      What is even more telling, is how blase people are about the idea of a countercultural "leader" inciting criminality and then handing those he's managed to influence over to the authorities for "processing." Too many of us don't even seem to know enough to be ashamed, or appalled, by this kind of thing, so few in fact, that the GOP mouthpiece is essentially bragging about using such methods to take down a group they've found so easy to demonize. A process made easier no doubt, if the story is true, by the very behavior their mole incited and coordinated in the first place. Agent provocateur on steriods.

      If this turns out to be at all true, and if we were a healthy democracy, the "leader" and his handlers would be facing serious jailtime, while those incited into this behavior would see a blackmark on their record and probation, hopefully scared straight. But those days died out sometime in the early naughties, and things have only gone downhill from there.

      • by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @11:43AM (#39262227)

        Seriously, I am staring to think we need to bludgeon people with a copy of 1984 every time they make a stupid statement about something normal being "Orwellian."

        This right here? How they do criminal investigations for criminal organizations. They locate someone involved, catch them committing a crime, arrest them, and then try to get them to turn state's evidence. They use that person to attempt to shut down the entire organization.

        This is how they run mob cases and all that kind of shit. If you aren't aware of it, your ignorance is the problem. It is not "Orwellian".

        Seriously I think some people on Slashdot are anarchists, they don't think the government should be allowed to enforce ANY laws. Of course then something will come up with a company doing something and they go all communist and demand that the government not so much enforce the law and just get extremely punitive on the company. To me that speaks of a very poor understanding of the concepts of justice and fairness.

  • They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

    Or have I missed something? Has Lulzsec operated as Lulzsec (and not part of the overarching Anonymous movement) recently?

    • They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

      He was arrested about 9 months ago.

      • They're chopping off the head of an organization that's hasn't operated as a discrete entity for around 9 months?

        He was arrested about 9 months ago.

        Talking about a decapitating strike... for the lulz.

  • Stop the presses! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by girlintraining ( 1395911 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:45AM (#39260797)
    WAIT! It's a story from Fox News. Wait until a more reputable news source reports the details. All every other reputable source [washingtonpost.com] is saying is that some dude got arrested and the feds think he's part of lulzsec. The rest is probably exaggeration if not complete fabrication and speculation on the part of that news organization. Do not assume anything in the article is true.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      reputable source [washingtonpost.com]

      Mmm, delicious yellowcake.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:03AM (#39260983)

      Fox News editorials are bullshit, but their news reporting is no less accurate than WaPo. I can imagine a known conservative news outlet being able to establish deeper sources within law enforcement than their more liberal counterparts, hence their scoop on the exclusive info. I'm not a conservative btw, and posting anon for obvious reasons.

    • by MarkvW ( 1037596 )

      I didn't even read the Fox News article. I trusted those lying bastards in their coverage of Iraq--WMD. THEY BURNED ME BAD. I avoid all Rupert Murdoch lying scum news. They are continually slanting stuff.

      The FBI is always cutting off the head of some criminal organization or another. After you've heard it for the nth time, it gets old . . .

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by ScentCone ( 795499 )

        I trusted those lying bastards in their coverage of Iraq--WMD

        Which lying bastards, now? The BBC? CNN? NPR? The AP? The state departments of several nations? CBS? MSNBC? The Clinton administration? Nancy Pelosi? Reuters? The NYT? In what fevered, Fox-fetishist way are you imagining that only Fox reported what was being said by people from all sorts of governmental organizations? Are you saying that Saddam was allowing free inspections of the sites where he used to keep tons of VX gas (for example), but that Fox was saying otherwise?

        The FBI is always cutting off the head of some criminal organization or another. After you've heard it for the nth time, it gets old . . .

        So, something that law enforcement

    • Every news source I've read so far, Fox, CNN, BBC, MSNBC, and Reuters are all carrying the story and naming Sabu as the head of the group and the one who flipped when he was arrested last Aug.
  • by Oswald McWeany ( 2428506 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:53AM (#39260887)

    This should be interesting to follow. They may have cut off the head of LulzSec but is this going to be like a hydra?
    Certainly there are already other "LulzSec wannabes" out-there following in Sabu's wake.

    I have split feelings about this. Lulzsec didn't do anything to directly harm my interests- although, theoretically they could have at any time- yet having rogue groups like LS was a threat to all people in one way or another. On the other hand- a world with no LulzSec would be a threat to us too. When governments can quickly lock down groups like this- government has too much power.

    It is probably just and right that Sabu go to jail- but it's also good they couldn't catch him too quickly... if you understand what I mean.

  • Interesting: (Score:5, Informative)

    by Hartree ( 191324 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @09:54AM (#39260897)

    If it's the same Jeremy Hammond, he's a known item in Chicago for some time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hammond [wikipedia.org]

    The talk page is interesting as well.

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    • You're making the assumption their activities have been interrupted.... hell this may just piss them off and increase their aggressiveness.

      Like kicking a beehive.

  • by RenHoek ( 101570 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:06AM (#39261019) Homepage

    I wonder if they'll have as much success as Hercules.

  • by iB1 ( 837987 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:13AM (#39261103)
    The original link to the Fox News website is a little thin on details, but there's a bit more flesh here

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/06/exclusive-inside-lulzsec-mastermind-turns-on-his-minions/?intcmp=related [foxnews.com]
  • by anti-pop-frustration ( 814358 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:19AM (#39261159) Journal
    One of his last tweet before the arrest:

    "They read your mails. Listen to your calls. Break into your wireless routers+sniff your traffic. GPS cars. I'm not talking about terrorists." https://twitter.com/#!/anonymouSabu/status/176683665919721472 [twitter.com]

    I guess he really knew what he was talking about.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:20AM (#39261173)

    Now that the world is safe from LulzSec, how about some cuffs for the real criminals and their official enablers who have free reign still to this day.

    Banksters and officials who enabled them
    Fast and Furious
    Oath breakers of the US Constitution

    Ought to be a full time job right there, no time to screw with medical cannabis, milk farmers, or guitar manufacturer's.,

  • by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:52AM (#39261559)

    from cnet.com, an alternate link:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20072906-17/lulzsec-suspect-arrested%20-in-u.k-reports-say [cnet.com]

    LulzSec suspect arrested in U.K., reports say

    by Don Reisinger June 21, 2011 6:28 AM PDT


    A 19-year-old U.K. man has been arrested on suspicion of hacking and online attacks, the U.K.'s Metropolitan Police announced this morning.

    Last night's arrest was part of "a pre-planned intelligence-led operation" that also involved cooperation with the FBI, according to the Metropolitan Police. Following the arrest, the man was brought to a London police station where he is currently in custody for questioning.

    Sky News reported early on that the teenager is the mastermind behind LulzSec, a prominent hacking group that has wreaked havoc on several companies and government organizations of late. However, the Metropolitan Police's e-Crime Unit stopped short of saying whether the man in custody might be connected to LulzSec.

    "The arrest follows an investigation into network intrusions and Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks against a number of international business and intelligence agencies by what is believed to be the same hacking group," the Metropolitan Police said. "The teenager was arrested on suspicion of Computer Misuse Act, and Fraud Act offences."

    For its part, LulzSec seemed bemused by the arrest, with a cheeky post to its Twitter account that it's still in operation.

    "Seems the glorious leader of LulzSec got arrested," the group wrote on its Twitter account. "It all over now. Wait, we're all still here! Which poor bastard did they take down?"

  • foxnews? really? (Score:4, Informative)

    by sl4shd0rk ( 755837 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @10:59AM (#39261653)
  • by rrohbeck ( 944847 ) on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @12:04PM (#39262613)

    'Lulzsec hackers' arrested in international swoop
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17270822 [bbc.co.uk]

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